CNN poll: Majority now oppose ObamaCare

posted at 4:06 pm on September 2, 2009 by Allahpundit

48/51, with most of those in opposition “strongly” against it. The crosstabs are full of goodies — e.g., just 21 percent think their family will be better off under ObamaCare, 55 percent think they’ll pay more for treatment versus just 19 percent who say less — but here’s my favorite data point.

He’s been swearing up and down for months that he’s not after a government takeover of health care, and this is what he gets. Likewise, after assuring us ad nauseam that seniors won’t lose any Medicare benefits, the split found by CNN on whether Medicare recipients will likely be better off or worse off under ObamaCare is … 26/43. The guy’s credibility is shot. And yet, as I write this, news is breaking that he’s planning to address a joint session of Congress a week from today, on the dopey theory that one more chorus of “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan” will somehow rally an increasingly skeptical public to his side. We don’t believe you anymore, Barry: Too many out-and-out lies about the numbers, too much doublespeak from prominent Democrats about the public option as a trojan horse for single-payer — just “too much bulls**t” generally, as one attendee at Steny Hoyer’s town hall put it. No wonder the Democrats’ huge lead in party affiliation has collapsed since May.

Two more data points. Bear in mind as you study them that a majority still claims to be in favor of a public option:

This goes back to the point I made last night. So deep is the public’s worry about further government expansion right now that they’re willing to sacrifice measures they might otherwise agree with in principle (like the public option) simply to put the brakes on and preserve the status quo. Karl made the same point in the Greenroom this morning and Sean Trende, crunching the numbers from the Republican wave that followed the HillaryCare debacle, sounds a similar note:

Democrats may counter that some polls show that the actual pieces of Obama’s plan have majority support. This doesn’t matter. What matters is that what the public understands to be in Obama’s plan isn’t popular. Polling from 2005 showed that Bush’s actual plan for social security – allowing younger workers to invest a portion of their Social Security taxes in private retirement accounts – split the public 50-50, while people disapproved of the perceived Bush plan – “privatization” – by a 2:1 margin. Perception is what matters, and right now the public is against what it perceives as being the Obama plan; the late summer push to educate voters seems to have failed.

Nor can Democrats likely count on the public “waking up” to what a great bill they’ve passed by 2010. Key portions of it, such as the “public option,” don’t come into being until well after the election.

Again, this is fundamentally a credibility problem. The public may love love love the public option in isolation, but it views the promise of a modest, deficit-neutral program against the backdrop of government expansion in all directions and mind-boggling debt as far as the eye can see. And since that backdrop’s going to remain for the foreseeable future, I don’t see how Obama avoids this same problem with the rest of his agenda going forward. His prospects are, shall we say, thoroughly wee-wee’d up.

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Different day, same b***s***

GrannyDee on September 2, 2009 at 6:01 PM

The guy’s credibility is shot. And yet, as I write this, news is breaking that he’s planning to address a joint session of Congress a week from today, on the dopey theory that one more chorus of “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan”

“Mamma used to say “”stupid is as stupid does.”"

FireBlogger on September 2, 2009 at 6:08 PM

He’s been swearing up and down for months that he’s not after a government takeover of health care, and this is what he gets.

Perhaps people recall the reporter asking Barry is he was a socialist. Barry laughed it off, but hours later felt the need to call the reporter personally and tell him “No, I’m not a socialist.”

GarandFan on September 2, 2009 at 6:19 PM

His prospects are, shall we say, thoroughly wee-wee’d up.

ROFLMAO!

ornery_independent on September 2, 2009 at 6:20 PM

This is the actual letter that Pelosi and Reid sent to B.O. today, inviting him to speak before a joint session of Congress next week:

September 2, 2009

President Barack Obama

The White House

Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear Mr. President:

Our nation is closer than ever to achieving health insurance reform that will lower costs, retain choice, improve quality and expand coverage. We are committed to reaching this goal.

We would like to invite you to address a Joint Session of the Congress on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 on health insurance reform.

Thank you for considering this invitation to speak to the Congress and the nation.

Sincerely,

NANCY PELOSI

Speaker of the House

HARRY REID

Majority Leader of the Senate

SOURCE Office of the Speaker of the House

Question: Exactly what planet are Reid and Pelosi presently residing on for them to make the absolutely jackass statement “Our nation is closer than ever to achieving health insurance reform ..”, or are they engaging in a seriously disturbing case of wishful thinking?

pilamaye on September 2, 2009 at 6:31 PM

First rate post Allahpundit. I don’t say that very often, but there ya go.

DaMav on September 2, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Trust is based on competence and character. The public’s trust in Obama diminished on both fronts with this healthcare debacle. Strategically, the only way for him to regain it is to reboot (i.e., atone) and then prove both cases.

That’s what his over-priced advisers should and will suggest.

The fact though is that he is incompetent and of low character, hence Waterloooooooooooo.

Quetzal on September 2, 2009 at 7:30 PM

What bothers me is that the Dems may decide to ram it through regardless and calculate that they can sweet talk us into voting for them anyway.

That’s the problem. If this monstrosity gets in, we’ll never get rid of it.

hachiban on September 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM

WOW! These people are SO involved with their own little world. Initially I thought they were ignoring the majority of America. That’s not the case at all. They really ARE that stupid.

If Dems do ram it through, why can’t we do what Joe Barton suggested and let it be overturned in 2010, assuming conservatives take over? Or perhaps we could knock out the biggest issues. It sounds like nothing really takes affect until 2013… (yea, I know, that’s taking a chance – “assuming conservatives would take over”).

Yellowdog12 on September 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Oh boy that man, he just live to talk, just like all other demagogues.

He just love to talk, like all demagogues!

I am getting real tired of all his talk.

I get the feeling, somehow, that oh boy, that man he just loves to lie, like all other demagogues

Dhuka on September 2, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Why do I have this feeling that soon our Dear Reader will giving speeches lasting hours & hours like his friends Castro & Chavez. He believes we MUST, MUST hear his message, share his vision.

Sandbar on September 2, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Question: Exactly what planet are Reid and Pelosi presently residing on for them to make the absolutely jackass statement “Our nation is closer than ever to achieving health insurance reform ..”, or are they engaging in a seriously disturbing case of wishful thinking?

pilamaye on September 2, 2009 at 6:31 PM

It’s just a propaganda-like verbal tic that budding totalitarians would engage in.

ddrintn on September 2, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Two more data points. Bear in mind as you study them that a majority still claims to be in favor of a public option:

The majority is not saying that they want a public option, what they are saying is that there are problems in the American health care system. They want the problems fixed but they do not want the Govt. running it.

All we need is for the Govt to take control and tell us what we can eat, drink, smoke, smell, wear, walk over, you get the idea.

SGinNC on September 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM

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