*shoots fish in a barrel*

Huh. More fun than it sounds! =)

Orange Doorhinge on August 31, 2009 at 5:24 PM

This man shot fish in a barrel with a bazooka.

You should see this guy’s other vids. He’s Awesome with a capital A.

Lastly, this idea that insurance companies cut care to make money. This point ignores that if an insurance company becomes known for cutting care, in a freer marketplace, a customer could opt for the competitor that doesn’t cut care.

And that’s what’s so illogical about these attacks on the insurance companies. If health insurance companies were ripping people off left and right, never covering anything, and just treating their customers downright horribly like these clowns like to argue….they wouldn’t HAVE very many customers. You don’t get to be and remain a profitable company by screwing over your customers.

Now compare that to government. No matter how much it screws you over, you’re not getting out…not even after you’re dead. No matter how terrible the service, the government is getting their cut, whether you like it or not.

crr6 on August 31, 2009 at 5:35 PM

What? I say…Put the troops on a salary and commish structure comparable to the (trial) lawyers and as much of the world as we want would have baseball, hot dogs and apple pie.

Wanna see the opposite? Watch The One shrink, demoralize and reduce our military.

As each day passes I am increasingly embarrassed that I used to be a Liberal.
visions on August 31, 2009 at 7:11 PM

This site/comment section is probably not the best place to alleviate that feeling. Just be glad that your brain is free and no longer being held prisoner.

Ohh – gov’t does military, therefore we should socialize medicine. Is that really your argument?

Monkeytoe on August 31, 2009 at 6:18 PM

He is a poor dumb troll.

As someone in the military I will vouch that it is inefficient. Many of the inefficientcies come from government regulations.

Example:

Back in the 1980′s the USAF had the oppotunity to replace all of the avionics in the KC-135 as well as upgrading the bathroom, gally and air conditioning on the ground, at the same time they were upgrading the engines to CFM-56s. This would have cost $1M per aircraft. Because of budgeting restrictions the AF could not afford this cost. (private coporation could have gotten a loan to gain the needed cash) Since then more than twice as much money has been spent, with more to come in the future, on a series of mashed-up contracts to due the same thing that Boeing would have done in the early 1980s. Don’t even get me started on the new tanker.

I love how the left has now latched onto the military as this super efficient budgetting machine now that they need examples that people can get behind. These are the same people that for years told the American people that it was OK to cut the military budget, because it was full of fraud and waste. The same people that talked about the $3000.00 toilet seat.

This is so stupid that it actually works best as an argument against what they are so desperately trying to sell. It should be called How the Liberal Brain Works.

Obviously the first guy still lives in his mom’s basement.

Under universal government health care, we in Oklahoma get to pay for Hollywood gerbil accidents.

gooddad on August 31, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Those were guinea pigs, a mole, and a fly.

I bet the guy doesn’t even realize that he’s probably paying for some “fire insurance” under his homeowners policy (assuming he’s a responsible home owner). You know, it’s that money you get when your BBQ burns the house down so you don’t have to mortgage the pile of ashes to try to buy a new house.

Still, I’d rather have the freedom to choose where to spend my money, at the risk of making a bad choice, than have someone force me to spend my money in certain ways on certain things whether I want to or not. I’m addicted to a little drug called freedom.
JadeNYU on August 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Hey, I’m totally behind that. My Enron example was just an obvious come back to ‘when a private company fails, it doesn’t take my money with it’…of course you had to choose to put your money into it in the first place.

Competition is absolutely necessary for business. No government enterprise has to worry about doing things right.

Take the DMV..always a good example. You go there, you wait in line, the employees are pricks, etc…What are you going to do?? Go across the street to the DMV Plan B?? Nope, yer gonna sit there and suck on it.

That’s why the USPS is sucking ass…UPS/FedEx kick their asses on everything the government hasn’t mandated as strictly for the USPS.

BigWyo on August 31, 2009 at 6:31 PM

It’s true that the failure of a private business will take the money of the investors (and, often, remaining customers) with it. People are then left to get what they can in bankruptcy court.

Still, I’d rather have the freedom to choose where to spend my money, at the risk of making a bad choice, than have someone force me to spend my money in certain ways on certain things whether I want to or not. I’m addicted to a little drug called freedom.

And, of course, as you pointed out in your post, the more important thing is that those that are doing things wrong fail (when not deemed ‘too big to fail’) which both serves as an object lesson to other businesses as well as clearing the way for more efficient businesses to take a greater market share.

WHEN A PRIVATE BUSINESS FAILS–IT DOESN’T TAKE MY MONEY WITH IT!

lovingmyUSA on August 31, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Ummm…Enron??? Maybe not yours..but more to the point, when a private sector business fails (unless it’s infested with a serious case of UAW), it FAILS…iaw YER DOING IT WRONG!!!

And in most cases, clearing the way for those that are DOING IT RIGHT to sally forth.

Damn, I could have said it in four sentences instead of writing a mini novel. Oh well.

Sharke on August 31, 2009 at 6:12 PM

I liked your thorough explanation better. ;)

Government “backed” is a pretty vague term, and could actually apply to just about any company. But to be more specific, there are many state universities that are provide a better education at a cheaper price than their private counterparts.

At a cheaper tuition rate to the individual student, not at a cheaper price. The state gov’t subsidizes these universities, usually costing more than private institutions per student.

I love how liberals think that things that gov’t does is “free”.

Ohh – gov’t does military, therefore we should socialize medicine. Is that really your argument?

The point is that everything the gov’t does is less efficient than the private sector. there are some things that are properly the province of the gov’t however, such as military and police, and we accept the inefficiencies b/c it is better than having a bunch of private armies or police forces running around.

However, that does not translate to things that are not the proper province of gov’t, such as health care.

the best care for the greatest number of people is about where we are now. there are some things that could be done to allow the private sector to be more efficient and insure the less than 1% of people that are not currently insured.

However, none of those things are currently being proposed by the dems. And, the things they are proposing would give everyone insurance, but at a much lower standard of care.