All hail the jobless recovery!
posted at 1:39 pm on August 31, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
What a difference a (D) makes! In 2003-4, George Bush got derided for talking about economic recovery during the 2004 election campaign while unemployment declined from 6.2% to 5.6%. Critics derided it as a “jobless recovery,” including the Washington Post. Now, however, an increase in unemployment has become a measure of improvement in the economy as it goes up to 9.5%:
The big news of the week should be Friday’s employment report, which many analysts suspect will show that the labor market, while still quite bad, continues on a path toward stabilization. Economists are expecting the unemployment rate to rise to 9.5 percent, from 9.4 percent, and for employers to have cut 228,000 net jobs in August, compared with the 247,000 jobs lost in March. That job loss number — or even better, a figure that starts with a “1,” would be strong evidence that improvement in the economy is finally filtering through to the job market in a serious way.
But there are reasons to doubt that will happen. Most notably, the rate of new jobless claims has failed to come down significantly in recent weeks, which suggests businesses are still eager to pare back their payrolls. Thursday, the Labor Department said 570,000 Americans put in new claims for unemployment insurance benefits, down only barely from 580,000 the previous week.
Really! This is what the Post had to say in a news report from August 2004 about “jobless recovery”:
For President Bush, tax cuts have been an all-purpose elixir, a cure for budget surpluses and a bursting stock bubble, for terrorist attacks and boardroom scandals, for the march to war and a jobless recovery in peacetime.
Now, after three successive tax cuts, and after a record budget surplus has turned to a record deficit, the president faces an unenviable choice. He can either concede that his $1.7 trillion tonic has not worked as advertised, or he can insist that the economy is strong despite the slowdown in growth and job creation.
Unemployment at that time: 5.4%, down from 5.5% the prior month.
And this is what their editorial board said about jobless recovery in January 2004:
As Chairman Alan Greenspan said yesterday, the United States has lost jobs to foreigners before, yet it has always created others. The Fed committee that sets interest rates meets today and tomorrow, and will demonstrate one of the reasons why the new protectionism is misguided. This is not the first jobless recovery. In 1991-92 the economy grew steadily, but job growth was almost nil. …
Mr. Bush should not be blamed for this, though his irresponsible fiscal policy harms business confidence and therefore job creation.
Unemployment at that time: 5.7%, down from 6% in October.
Now the Post wants to hail a move from 9.4% to 9.5% in unemployment as “strong evidence” of economic recovery?
What a difference a (D) makes … to the coverage at the Washington Post. (via Jim Geraghty)
Update: I mistakenly wrote 9.7% instead of 9.5% in the first paragraph (and got it right in the penultimate). It’s fixed now.
Update II: We’ve featured this before, but this video from Frank Strategies more than two months ago is right on point:
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Ed, the consensus of economists on Wall Street, long before the sequester became ‘permanent’, called for a .5 to 1 percent impact in GDP. And it took an expected hit on the unemployment rate.
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-gdp-impact-of-cuts-in-full-sequester-2013-1
You can’t have it both ways- a significant cut in government spending compressed into a shortened fiscal cycle- and continued growth in the labor market. If the economy had been growing at 3% to 4%, then trimming half a point from GDP would have far less impact on job growth. But when GDP was standing around 2.5%, the consequence of the sequester became far more dire.
bayam on April 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Yesterday’s Reuters headline “Jobs up, good sign for economy”.
Today’s, no kidding “Weak job gains cast shadow on U.S. economic outlook”
I hope they all spontaneously combust in the news, for dereliction of duty.
bayam, you are an eternall azz-kissing fool.
Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM
How can the sequester take a hit on the March unemployment rate when it hasn’t even started yet?
sentinelrules on April 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM
Just for you, bayam.
Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 1:17 PM
The sequester is not a cut in spending but a reduction in the increased spending for 2013.
bw222 on April 5, 2013 at 1:19 PM
You’re even dumber than most of us thought you were.
bw222 on April 5, 2013 at 1:20 PM
This from Richard Cohen, the otherwise Obama-azzlicker
Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Relative to GDP? Not so impressive a comment from someone claiming their superior IQ.
bayam on April 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM
A shame that the Obama Campaign proposed it, pushed it, signed it into law and threatened to veto any efforts to undo it.
forest on April 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM
bayam will suffocate, in Obama’s azz.
Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM
Obama owns the sequester.
Obama owns the Arab’spring’.
Obama owns the economy.
Obama owns the disaster which the land is under him.
Obama owns Obama’care’.
Own up, bayam, or combust, from hypocrisy alone.
Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 1:26 PM
Do you honestly think that if the sequester didn’t affect hundreds of thousands of union jobs (and hence hundreds of millions of dollars worth of union dues), Obama would actually care?
sentinelrules on April 5, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Obama’s America
Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM
…no brains…no ba11s…just babbling and braying again!
KOOLAID2 on April 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM
I don’t know. But what I can tell you is that White House economists accurately expressed the concerns of Wall Street when it came to the real impact of the sequester, while other said there’s nothing to worry about here.
From a historical perspective, attempts to balance the budget don’t turn out so well when you’re still on the precipice of a recovery. And of course the sequester was never a real answer to fixing the deficit. This country has known for 50 years that a graying population was going to present a unique set of financial challenges, and our leadership continues to look past real entitlement solutions, divided by ideology and political posturing.
bayam on April 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Our “leadership” is trying to get elected. The electorate will not stand for entitlement solutions. You’re not going to see any reform until after this whole thing crashes down around us.
But the Dems have figured out how to win over the electorate and they’ll be in charge from now on, so don’t worry too much.
happytobehere on April 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM
So bayam, you think it’s the sequester?
Sorry. not seeing it.
http://www.businessinsider.com/weak-jobs-report-not-about-the-sequester-2013-4
But that’s probably not a good enough source… lets find a better one.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/sequestration-and-the-jobs-report/
Please explain to me why the NY Times is unfairly choosing to give the sequester a pass.
gekkobear on April 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Well, you see, here is where I stronglydisagree with you. We are not on a precipice of recovery. Not when the economy is being held afloat by wave after wave after wave of Quantitative easing.
sentinelrules on April 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM
And if you think the jobs report was a shock to the market today just wait until earnings reports start rolling. I suppose the dimwitted liberals will blame poor earnings and forecasts on the sequester. Let’s face it, companies are getting by on the mantra of doing more with less and Obamacare definitely is a game changer on doing more with less.
Businesses in the real world are doing everything they can right now to reduce costs. It’s unfortunate that real people working in the real world are going to continue to lose jobs as businesses continue to do what is necessary to improve their profit.
rsherwd65 on April 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Ah, there’s the bayam we’ve come to know.
Steve Eggleston on April 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM
A broken clock has the correct time twice a day; that doesn’t mean it works. If you say every day that the Republicans are causing the horrible economy, the fact that the economy is horrible still doesn’t make you right. I know this is hard stuff, but seriously, let’s make some attempt at real cause and effect here.
As an example, please point to any 1000 jobs that were lost due to the sequester. As far as we’ve seen, the two biggest effects of the sequester are that American citizens can’t visit the White House and
Sasha and Malia can’t go skiing… nevermind, make that the ONE big effect.AJsDaddie on April 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM
I don’t think word means what you think it means.
happytobehere on April 5, 2013 at 2:11 PM
No, but I think bayam may have inadvertently come up with the single best description of the entire Obama economic policy: we’re about to go over the edge of the precipice of a recovery!
Yay precipice! Yay recovery! Remember, it takes US to spell Cyprus!!!
:)
AJsDaddie on April 5, 2013 at 2:18 PM
You can stop right there.
voiceofreason on April 5, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Your propaganda machine will be on eternal “recovery” or faux crises. They make them up as they need them.
Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM
…and always attempting to derail. Makes Axelturd proud.
Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 3:08 PM
Oh look, his irrelevancy has made another appearance, after running away from RWM in another thread.
Such a lying little coward, Bayam.
ShadowsPawn on April 5, 2013 at 3:08 PM
The ABC radio news reader reported as bad news that there were only 88k jobs created, but as good news that the unemployment rate had dropped to 7.6%. Seriously. I guess the best way to get out of this mess if for everybody to stop working so we can get the unemployment rate to 0.
Rumpole of the Bailey on April 5, 2013 at 3:27 PM
Hehe. It’s fun to watch that tap dancing troll step in Obamas turds.
SparkPlug on April 5, 2013 at 3:35 PM
bayam tried posting the same link on one of the other threads here. My debunking of same:
Still waiting for an answer, BTW.
Del Dolemonte on April 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Why is this….
and this….
so difficult to understand? One would have to be ridiculously dishonest to not even acknowledge that….
Oh….never mind.
98ZJUSMC on April 5, 2013 at 5:08 PM
The truth, shall set you free.
98ZJUSMC on April 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Isn’t business insider’s founder a crook who is not allowed to trade?
tom daschle concerned on April 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM
Stop right there sunshine.
The sequester wasn’t a cut in spending, let alone a “significant” cut. It was a small cut in EXPECTED spending. Correct that first and we’ll consider and discuss the rest of your points…
dominigan on April 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM
There is no recovery. There is a precipice. Jump Lemming, Jump!
dominigan on April 5, 2013 at 5:35 PM
It’s obvious Bayam doesn’t quite know what that word means.
HumpBot Salvation on April 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM
Add it to the list:
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/27/sebelius-well-yeah-actually-obamacare-is-causing-insurance-premiums-to-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-6835759
OBAMA 2013!
rogerb on April 5, 2013 at 9:19 PM
“So you want a job that you expect us to train you to do, but, if we can’t pay you what you want you will stay on unemployment?” This was something one of my managers asked an applicant applying for an unskilled minimum wage job.
As a business owner most people have no idea how many people we’ve had to hire, then fire, just to get one that could perform the easiest tasks. People with a solid work ethic are getting harder and harder to find.
The nanny state, public school system and parents have done a pathetic job at preparing our children for adulthood. Too bad we didn’t create positions for couch potatoes.
kregg on April 6, 2013 at 7:48 AM
All of our best jobs are being offshored. Thanks to both the Republicans and Democrats. Entry level jobs are being swallowed up by illegals. Young people can’t get any work experience as a result. Thanks to both Republicans and Democrats.
Darvin Dowdy on April 7, 2013 at 8:19 PM
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