Union payoff should get stripped from ObamaCare: Detroit News

posted at 8:05 am on August 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Earlier in the week, we found out that unions have good reasons to conduct an Astroturf campaign on behalf of ObamaCare — in fact, ten billion good reasons.  The Detroit Free Press reported that HR3200 gives a $10,000,000,000 subsidy to union pension and benefit plans, a key component that had gone largely unremarked.  Later in the week, the Detroit News’ editorial board blasted the payoff and demanded its removal:

One reason the public so distrusts the health care plan being considered by Congress is that so many troublesome details keep bubbling out of the massive legislation.

The latest example is the $10 billion taxpayers will be asked to shell out to prop up the United Auto Workers’ retiree health insurance program. …

In effect, it would ask every taxpayer, regardless of whether they’ll have health insurance coverage themselves after they retire — and most won’t — to chip in to maintain the UAW’s coverage, which even after the union’s givebacks is still better than what the average American worker receives.

That’s one important point to remember.  Union health plans will be exempt from the limitations of ObamaCare, allowing unions to operate as insurers while forcing everyone else into government-approved plans in “exchanges”.  Instead of having the union pay for their own plans, taxpayers will subsidize them, while getting less themselves.

The Detroit News notes that the biggest beneficiary of this largesse will be the United Auto Workers, whose pension plans are in serious trouble.  This should be a showstopper anyway, as the American taxpayer has bailed out the UAW not once but twice, first in dumping billions of dollars into GM and Chrysler, and then in the politicized bankruptcies that gave the UAW large portions of both companies.

We’ve spent enough on the UAW, thank you very much.  As the editorial argues, it’s up to the UAW to adjust their pension plans to bring them into financial reality, not to the American taxpayers to subsidize their failure for a third time in a year.

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DO NOT LET YOUR DISGUST STOP HERE.

CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES IN D.C. BEFORE YOU START YOUR SATURDAY. WE MUST BE RELENTLESS. IF WE ARE INFORMED, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO USE THIS KNOWLEDGE.

In Liberty.

pjean on August 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM

anniekc on August 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM

I had pretty much the same experience in the late 70′s with the IBEW. There is one thing the unions did for me….turned me to Ronald Reagan.

conservnut on August 29, 2009 at 10:31 AM

It just becomes stupider and stupider

CWforFreedom on August 29, 2009 at 10:38 AM

This is pretty outrageous.

Socialism is here. The Democrats are now behaving like the UK Labour Party – a party totally in hock to the unions and willing to sell the majority down the river for a little cash in return.

Anders on August 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM

The Health Care plan isn’t about helping people…..it’s all about: POLITICAL CONTROL AND POWER

Kill the Bill.

yoda on August 29, 2009 at 10:47 AM

OUTLAW UNIONS NOW!!!!!!!

ic1redeye on August 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Let’s not be naive. Who really didn’t think something of this nature WOULDN’T be in the fine print? Keep looking, I am, and there are even more surprises, I’m counting on it.

Robert17 on August 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM

I’m really surprised that the UAW flag isn’t being flown from the White House.

GarandFan on August 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Kill the bill!

In addition to being outrageous it’s simply unconstitutional. The federal government has no authority to create Obamacare or any incarnation thereof.

DerKrieger on August 29, 2009 at 11:13 AM

The other shoe drops,
And nobody notices.
We knew all along.

It just had to be,
That the unions were paid off.
The question was how.

Take it to the bank.
The Elites protect themselves
From their plans for us.

Haiku Guy on August 29, 2009 at 11:17 AM

it’s about time we refuse to pay taxes en masse. when half the country votes on raising taxes for the other half, where’s the “no taxation without representation” in that?

the reward will soon be so high to hide income from the government’s 60-70% confiscation grasp, that the risk of stuffing cash in safe places will be small in comparison.

and how will the IRS even remotely try to enforce tax policy when 20, 40, 60, 80 or 100 million people refuse to pay?

cpr on August 29, 2009 at 11:25 AM

You know, if you take all the politcal payback measures out of the bill, there won’t be anything left to vote on.

BobMbx on August 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM

I’m just a bill.
Yes, I’m only a bill.

Um, clearly you’re neither just nor only!

misslizzi on August 29, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Paying for union workers plush insurance plans, mandating that the IRS turn over our tax records to anyone in government that demands them, for the purpose of health….invasive access to our personal banking accounts by government, and all the other CRAP in this CRAP of a bill, is just to much.

Shred the damn thing, and start over!!!!!

capejasmine on August 29, 2009 at 11:58 AM

What puzzles me about the union deal with Obama is that he lost Nevada in the primary, because SEIU refused to go along with the thug tactics of the leadership.

He was, if you recall, so angry that Hillary had won that he refused to concede that primary and went back to Chicago in a complete snit. (She won with old-fashioned retail politics methods. She and Bill went down and shook hands and kissed babies like mad.)

So I was surprised to see all the union support coming. The only thing I can figure is that he wishes to ressurect unions so that they, once again, become a solid voting bloc for Dems.

AnninCA on August 29, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Eff the UAW, IBEW, and SEIU. They are all crooks and liars.

Jaibones on August 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM

That’s one important point to remember. Union health plans will be exempt from the limitations of ObamaCare, allowing unions to operate as insurers while forcing everyone else into government-approved plans in “exchanges”. Instead of having the union pay for their own plans, taxpayers will subsidize them, while getting less themselves.

Amazing isn’t it

Meanwhile, Obama gave the unions a chunk of ownership in auto

Guess the Unions and the Congressmen are gooing to have some pretty good healthcare

Has any member of Congress yet proposed a bill to put Congress into any National Health Care system imposed on the general public? I would like to find out if there is one honorable member in Congress

entagor on August 29, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Nothing good comes out of Detroit anymore. The state of Michigan is a great lesson on Progressivism in action.

A pox on all of this: the union concessions, the massive entitlements, the unread legislation we’re supposed to “pass for Teddy!”

A pox on all of it.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 29, 2009 at 12:23 PM

So I was surprised to see all the union support coming. The only thing I can figure is that he wishes to ressurect unions so that they, once again, become a solid voting bloc for Dems.

AnninCA on August 29, 2009 at 12:00 PM

The SEIU is a healthcare services union

From the SEIU website

SEIU is the fastest-growing union in North America. Focused on uniting workers in three sectors to improve their lives and the services they provide, SEIU is:

The largest healthcare union, with more than 1.1 million members in the field, including nurses, LPNs, doctors, lab technicians, nursing home workers, and home care workers
The largest property services union, with 225,000 members in the building cleaning and security industries, including janitors, security officers, superintendents, maintenance workers, window cleaners, and doormen and women
The second largest public services union, with more than 1 million local and state government workers, public school employees, bus drivers, and child care providers

The SEIU becomes the most powerful union if the bill passes

entagor on August 29, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Isn’t America TIRED of paying for low life union SCUM?

Jeff from WI on August 29, 2009 at 12:39 PM

The SEIU becomes the most powerful union if the bill passes

Got it.

AnninCA on August 29, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Well they didn’t call it the UNION of Soviet Socialists for nothing.

capejasmine on August 29, 2009 at 12:47 PM

As an adult, Trig Palin will be a Rhodes Scholar compared to your typical union member.

Jeff from WI on August 29, 2009 at 1:03 PM

America is becoming a land where only those who with connections to politicians or who are useful to politicians in some way can expect to thrive. It is becoming a land where only those who agree to climb some kind of existing organizational ladder and not challenge the system can expect to succeed. We must seriously ask ourselves whether or not this is the still the land of opportunity, where a single man, minding his own and offending no one, can truly expect to be anything greater than he is today by dint of his own work and ideas, or if he continually has to pay tribute to the mighty, merely because they are mighty, in order to merely be allowed to keep running in place. America has risen to greatness because we, unique among nations, have uncommonly been about the common man, and because of this, our common man does uncommon things. But, if we continually take from the common man and give to those who are all too common, un-extraordinary in all respects except one–their access to the powerful and in the ability to take that which is others for themselves, then we will find ourselves in a position uncommon for America, but common for the condition of man–a stagnant, zero-sum game where instead of dreaming for the future we are scheming for the “presents”, because we ourselves are unable to supply our wants and desires except as what we can take from others. Instead of “right makes right”, or “bright makes right”, we will be back to the old “might makes right”.

Horatius on August 29, 2009 at 1:14 PM

ObamaCare — in fact, ten billion good reasons. The Detroit Free Press reported that HR3200 gives a $10,000,000,000 subsidy to union pension and benefit plans, a key component that had gone largely unremarked.

And why are we paying for this?????????

BigMike252 on August 29, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Kill Bill vol.3

BigMike252 on August 29, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Robert:

Keep looking, I am, and there are even more surprises, I’m counting on it.

Have you seen this one?
The SCHOOL BASED HEALTH CLINICS PROGRAM. [p. 992]
Yep, they’re going to federalize the sick room.
In essence, feds will pay 80% of the clinic cost, so I don’t imagine there are many cash-strapped school districts that won’t happily take the money.

It covers mental health services, among other things.

I think this may be scarier than the IRS provision.

jeanneb on August 29, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Connect the dots folks…

Look at how much money Unions have already contributed to Nancy Pelosi for the 2009-2010 election cycle:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00007360&type=I&mem=

wren on August 29, 2009 at 2:31 PM

I bet this question will be coming up at some town halls.

BTW, I read that there are over a million people drawing some kind of benefits from these unions plans, and only about 90,000 paying into them. That can’t last.

Terrye on August 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM

We need a re-enactment of the Haymarket Riot Trials. Gettlefinger and Stern playing the roles of Spies, Parsons, Fischer and Engel.

PimFortuynsGhost on August 29, 2009 at 3:13 PM

IF anybody gets a shot at a townhall, be sure to bring this up in the questions.

This is just sickening.

Sapwolf on August 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Oh yah, and F**K the UAW to Hell.

I mean it.

Sapwolf on August 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM

I knew I should have downloaded the whole thing earlier, my bad. Seems the HR3200 site is overwhelmed with hits or something. I can’t get in to continue reading.

This may be a good thing. If there is this much interest, involvement, then there may be a chance we can drive this off the bridge reduce it’s chances of passage.

Good God Almighty, there are so many “insert subclause d) sec.2, part 3, sub-section c)” references in this bill, I sincerely understand why no Congressperson would want to read it

Robert17 on August 30, 2009 at 8:30 AM

Fu*k Union made Products.
I’ll chance lead paint and the Chinese before I support these whores.

bluegrass on August 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM

OUTLAW UNIONS NOW!!!!!!!

ic1redeye on August 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM

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Outlaw hell!, Identify and punish the $#!+ of them.

ronnyraygun on August 30, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Someday, when Obama becomes the emperor of the U.S., the unions will be banished. HA…HA….

mobydutch on August 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM

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