Enzi: Democrats will spend more, deliver less in ObamaCare

posted at 10:15 am on August 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Mike Enzi (R-WY) has taken plenty of heat from his conservative constituents for attempting to hammer out a bipartisan health-care reform bill in the Senate.  However, Enzi appears frustrated not with Wyoming voters but with the Democrats on the other side of the table.  With just a few days left before Congress resumes work, Enzi blasted the Democrats for spending too much money and limiting patient choice, when what America needs is the exact opposite:

A leading GOP negotiator on health care struck a further blow to fading chances of a bipartisan compromise by saying Democratic proposals would restrict medical choices and make the country’s “finances sicker without saving you money.”

The criticism from Sen. Michael Enzi, R-Wyo., echoed that of many opponents of the Democratic plans under consideration in Congress. But Enzi’s judgment was especially noteworthy because he is one of only three Republicans who have been willing to consider a bipartisan bill in the Senate.

In the Republicans’ weekly radio and Internet address on Saturday, Enzi said any health care legislation must lower medical costs for Americans without increasing deficits and the national debt.

“The bills introduced by congressional Democrats fail to meet these standards,” he said.

Enzi called for a reform effort that pushes for increased competition, especially across state lines, and for tort reform.  Not coincidentally, the GOP has a full proposal for health-care reform along those principles in the House, HR2520, introduced by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI).  The national media has completely ignored this bill, which flies in the face of Barack Obama’s accusations that his opponents want to “do nothing” about rising health-care costs.  Thus far, the bill remains stuck in two House committees, Ways and Means (chaired by Charlie Rangel) and Energy and Commerce (chaired by Henry Waxman).  Neither Democrat has made any noise about bipartisanship in consideration of this bill, which has as much chance of getting to the House floor as Obama converting to a Milton Friedman-like free-market economist.

Democrats in both chambers keep talking about bipartisanship, especially in the context of Ted Kennedy’s death.  They lament that Republicans don’t follow Kennedy’s example and try to work in a bipartisan fashion, but that assumes a definition of bipartisanship as “you shut up while I dictate terms” (or, as Obama said to the GOP, “I won”).  Republicans tried to work with Democrats on Porkulus (many of them happy to spend money under normal circumstances), and had Nancy Pelosi allowed them to contribute to it, she and Obama would have had half of the House GOP voting for the bill with few really substantial changes.  Instead, they shut the GOP out of negotiations and wrote a terrible bill, which the Democrats now own fully and completely.

Enzi provides a canary-in-the-coal-mine moment, along with Chuck Grassley and even Olympia Snowe.  None of these Senators can be mistaken for hard-line conservatives, and all of them have reputations similar to Kennedy for cutting deals.  If the Democrats can’t bend enough to get these three on board, then the operative definition of bipartisan has to be “bye-bye, Republicans.”  When Enzi walks away, he will take the tattered fig leaf of Democratic moderation with him, and the Democrats will have to run the risk of looking both radical and dictatorial in pushing through a plan that has generated anger and revulsion across the nation.


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Democrats in both chambers keep talking about bipartisanship, especially in the context of Ted Kennedy’s death. They lament that Republicans don’t follow Kennedy’s example and try to work in a bipartisan fashion, but that assumes a definition of bipartisanship as “you shut up while I dictate terms” (or, as Obama said to the GOP, “I won”).

Last night I was watching Dodd’s speech about Kennedy at the memorial and he talked about Kennedy’s great friendships with Orrin Hatch and John McCain and how it was to their great credit that they often voted with Teddy and his ideas. He then said it was to Teddy’s great credit that Teddy never voted with them or their ideas.

Pretty much summed up bi-partisanship, Democrat style.

myrenovations on August 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM

That is interesting, and to be frank Democrats don’t have the votes. Reid the other day said he has 60 votes on “paper”, which means he has no idea who will vote for what.

rob verdi on August 29, 2009 at 10:22 AM

The media ignores, but the GOP is quiet.

They should be trying to counter the MSM. They are not.

Maybe Palin, Beck, & Limbaugh can do the job for them.

Where is Steele?

bridgetown on August 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Let them ram it through the backlash from American Voters will be stunning to witness…and participate in. 2010 a populist wave engulfs the country.

Dr Evil on August 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM

That is interesting, and to be frank Democrats don’t have the votes. Reid the other day said he has 60 votes on “paper”, which means he has no idea who will vote for what.

rob verdi on August 29, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Might as well be toilet paper, because if he had 60 votes, he would be pushing it through.

ICBM on August 29, 2009 at 10:29 AM

I hope that the dems try to ram this crap sandwich through on their own. Conservatives will own the house and senate in 2011 and the presidency in 2013. Bring it on you commy punks!

farright on August 29, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Last night I was watching Dodd’s speech about Kennedy at the memorial and he talked about Kennedy’s great friendships with Orrin Hatch and John McCain and how it was to their great credit that they often voted with Teddy and his ideas. He then said it was to Teddy’s great credit that Teddy never voted with them or their ideas.

Pretty much summed up bi-partisanship, Democrat style.

myrenovations on August 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Heh. It also says something about Hatch and McCain. Man, we’ve got some housecleaning to do.

a capella on August 29, 2009 at 10:29 AM

The republicans must show they want real reform at the same time they define the dems as wanting “control” of everyones health care.

tim c on August 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Reid did a teletownhall and told NV residents he was NOT BOUND

ginaswo on August 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM

oops sorry, not bound by the WH pharma deal, heh heh, and that he would use reconciliation since ‘you know Ted Kennedy is dead and Byrd is ill’ saying THAT is why he needs bipartisanship, then he laid blame on the GOP

whadda maroon

ginaswo on August 29, 2009 at 10:31 AM

The Dem’s are just stupid enough to try and win this game of chicken- to offer the finger to more than half of America is well within their scope of politics.

I guarantee you they won’t like it when we return it in 2010, and again in 2012.

anniekc on August 29, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Heh. It also says something about Hatch and McCain. Man, we’ve got some housecleaning to do.

a capella on August 29, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Add Gramnesty and the two senators from Maine, later CINO’s.

farright on August 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM

ginaswo on August 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM

I believe he also claims he hasn’t agreed to Barry’s deal with Big Pharm. Between he and Waxman, I hope they can’t control their obsession and catch the pres in a crossfire.

a capella on August 29, 2009 at 10:34 AM

It is about time we heard from Enzi and what he said sounds encouraging especially within the Tubbie Teddycare manipulation.

Clyde5445 on August 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Our brokerage firm believes that there are 45 “hard left” votes in the Senate, based on a survey of which Senators have publicly supported the “public option.”

They need only 45 votes to jam something thru under reconciliation, though, thankfully, the Byrd amendment should limit the damage.

There are NOT 60 votes for the public option. There may be 50 votes for something watered down under reconciliation. The good news is that it would sunset after 5 years.

johnboy on August 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM

I hope Arlen Specter scared the crap out of Republicans.

The old fool tried to befriend democrats, a first mistake, then he compounded it by becoming one. Now he’s in the midst of a very public, humiliating, but very self-inflicted implosion.

If you’re a liberal Republican, you can’t avoid seeing your future in the tragic tale of Arlen Specter.

jeff_from_mpls on August 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Go, Dems, go! Over the cliff with you.

Advice to Pelosi and Reid: In a mass suicide, make sure you’re the last ones to drink the tainted koolaid; otherwise, you can’t be sure you’ve succeeded. Gotta get this right!

EMD on August 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Whoops, typo.

Our brokerage firm believes that there are 45 “hard left” votes in the Senate, based on a survey of which Senators have publicly supported the “public option.”

They need only 51 (not 45) votes to jam something thru under reconciliation, though, thankfully, the Byrd amendment should limit the damage.

There are NOT 60 votes for the public option. There may be 50 votes for something watered down under reconciliation. The good news is that it would sunset after 5 years.

johnboy on August 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM

whadda maroon

ginaswo on August 29, 2009 at 10:31 AM

To see that man stripped of his senator title and return to Citizen Harry is #2 on my wish list.

sherry on August 29, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Clyde5445 on August 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM

I think Grassley is off the table. He got spanked pretty soundly in the town hall meetings.

a capella on August 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Pretty much summed up bi-partisanship, Democrat style.

Ain’t that the truth. Side with Dems and you are bipartisan.

If you don’t – “Party of No”.

As for the Dems, well look at Lieberman.

reaganaut on August 29, 2009 at 10:40 AM

johnboy on August 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM

If it sunsets, it would almost be worth it for them to use reconciliation and get the blowback.

a capella on August 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM

We’re all Mary Jo Kopechne now.

Yes, you and I are Mary Jo Kopechne now. You read it right. Teddy has passed the keys to Obama, after a few beers with Gates, and he’s smiling at us and then sliding behind the wheel. Maybe Obama, like Teddy, slipped a little something in our drink–just to make us a little more willing. One can only think what he has in mind as he invites us into the front seat of that big Oldsmobile. “Just a little drive” he quips, as your instincts tell you this might not be a good idea, but he’s handsome, well connected and charming. In the back of your mind, you think obama is just another womanizer, just out to use you for what you’ve got. Maybe you’re right–he is married you know.

As he heads down the bridge, the car careens over the edge, flips upside down and he leaves you trapped there, gasping for air as the car fills with water. You die a slow agonizing death as Obama escapes, his political career intact–set up right for victories to come–adulation and reverence. The rules he sets don’t apply to him–he wins and you lose.

Yes, Obama is trying to use us to pass Obamacare just like Teddy used Mary Jo. He wants to get what he wants and needs out of us only to leave us discarded underwater like an old boot. He’ll ride our backs just so long as to break it, then hop on someone else’s.

Yes, my friends. Today, we are all Mary Jo Kopechne and it is truly fitting and symbolic that the coward of Chappaquiddick is passing the proverbial keys to the Oldsmobubble to Obama upon the delivery of the eulogy.

The question is, will we get in and take the fatal ride, knowing today what Mary Jo didn’t know that fateful night in 1969? Will we be left at the bottom of the lake, gasping for air, as Obama escapes to greener pastures…and more victims? Time shall tell–for today, the Oldsmobile Key is passed.

ted c on August 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM

I guarantee you they won’t like it when we return it in 2010, and again in 2012.

anniekc on August 29, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Just for the hell of it, let’s keep Obama’s fascist structures in place. You know, for the Children.

Let’s keep the National Civilian Security Force, and use it to eliminate gangs who terrorize our inner cities. Let’s use them to keep an eye on the Black Panthers, ACORN, and other organizations that might threaten our constitutional right to a free and open election.

Oh, and let’s use that power of government to audit the books and strong-arm executives of organizations like the inaptly named center for American progress, greenpeace, the sierra club, and other hard-left activist front groups.

What’s good for AIG is good for the DNC.

Oh, and that ACORN magical mystery tour bus? We’ll use it to pay midnight visits to prominent anarchist activists.

Suck it up liberal fascists. You built it.

jeff_from_mpls on August 29, 2009 at 10:42 AM

the Oldsmobile Key is passed.

ted c on August 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Brilliant. Sad, but brilliant.

sherry on August 29, 2009 at 10:44 AM

The good news is that it would sunset after 5 years.

johnboy on August 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM

They would totally destroy the current healthcare system in that 5 years, I don’t really see that as good news.

farright on August 29, 2009 at 10:44 AM

This would be the “Jim Jones” “Kool-Aid” drinking moment for the dems if they do it…..

Pelosi will be saying “Quick, quick, drink the Kool-Aid we can’t let them stop us”

Oh, my brothers, we will stop them…..and then force them to drink the Kool-Aid at our time & choosing.

izoneguy on August 29, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Reconsillation means civil war. O would be done as well as the Rats. The Rats as a party would be in permant minority for at least 50 yrs. I could see acual fisticuffs on the floor a both Houses. A good cat fight would be nice as well. Bachmann vs. Pelosy (sic).

Clyde5445 on August 29, 2009 at 10:45 AM

I think Grassley is off the table. He got spanked pretty soundly in the town hall meetings.

a capella on August 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM

These d-bags don’t care what their constituents want, they have become the ‘Ruling Class’ and could care less what the ‘Loud People’ want, they know what is best.

thomasaur on August 29, 2009 at 10:49 AM

jeff_from_mpls on August 29, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Exactly, I like that idea.

farright on August 29, 2009 at 10:50 AM

a capella on August 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM

I know and he back up Palin sort of too. The one I am worried about is Snowe but I have seen statements by her stating the Public Option in a no go.

Clyde5445 on August 29, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Anyone who does not think that government takeover of healthcare will result in a Stay-Puft bureaucracy rife with middle tier czars and czarinas bulking up their turf, out of sight of the taxpayer, and militant public service unions regularly applying the tourniquet to the taxpayer as they head towards entitled pay without much work, is deluding themselves. The last thing anyone can expect from such a system is improved healthcare results.

Let the Donkeys own this catastrophe, completely.

shaken on August 29, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Ed, much of what HR2520 does is to give grants to states to set up State health care exchanges or to consider tort reform, in addition to providing for tax credits and health savings account changes and charging more for Medicare to higher income people or people that don’t exercise, go to nutrition counseling, manage their weight or designate a “health home”. There’s no requirements for any states to actually do anything, so there’d be no guaranty that anything substantive would be accomplished.

Jimbo3 on August 29, 2009 at 10:52 AM

Come on Reid, show some guts, pull the nuke option!

GarandFan on August 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM

There may be 50 votes for something watered down under reconciliation. The good news is that it would sunset after 5 years.

Something I’ve been wondering about but haven’t seen discussed is that, should the Rats ram this through it’s not supposed to go into full effect until 2013. Assuming that scenario, and the GOP retakes the House and takes a serious number of seat back in the Senate, could not the 2011-12-13 Congress simple vote to withold funding for this debacle preventing it from going into effect? No money, no monster. Choke it blue until (hopefully) a GOP POTUS takes office in 2013 and officially begins the process of killing it.

Am I all wet here?

JoeinTX on August 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM

it is truly fitting and symbolic that the coward of Chappaquiddick is passing the proverbial keys to the Oldsmobubble to Obama upon the delivery of the eulogy.

The Oldsmobile Key is Passed….

ted c on August 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM

When Enzi walks away, he will take the tattered fig leaf of Democratic moderation with him, and the Democrats will have to run the risk of looking both radical and dictatorial in pushing through a plan that has generated anger and revulsion across the nation.

Do the Democrats care?

NoFanofLibs on August 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Nancy Pelosi do it for Teddy Chug It - It’s for everyones own good after all :)

Dr Evil on August 29, 2009 at 11:05 AM

The Oldsmobile Key is Passed…
ted c on August 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM

I pray for our country.

yoda on August 29, 2009 at 11:05 AM

This would be the “Jim Jones” “Kool-Aid” drinking moment for the dems if they do it…..

Pelosi will be saying “Quick, quick, drink the Kool-Aid we can’t let them stop us”

izoneguy on August 29, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Snippets from the actual tape of Jim Jones as the mass suicide was taking place. Chilling. And notice, the Jim Jones cult was a Leftist utopia, not a religion. Read it:

You can’t steal people’s children. You can’t take off with people’s children without expecting a violent reaction. And that’s not so unfamiliar to us either–even if we were Judeo-Christian–if we weren’t Communists. The world (inaudible) suffers violence, and the violent shall take it by force. If we can’t live in peace, then let’s die in peace. (Applause.)

We’ve been so betrayed. We have been so terribly betrayed. (Music and singing) But we’ve tried and as (inaudible) … if this only works one day it was worthwhile. (Applause.) Thank you.

So my opinion is that you be kind to children and be kind to seniors and take the potion like they used to take in ancient Greece and step over quietly because we are not committing suicide; it’s a revolutionary act. We can’t go back; they won’t leave us alone. They’re now going back to tell more lies, which means more congressmen. And there’s no way, no way we can survive.

Check with Russia to see if they’ll take us in immediately, otherwise we die. I don’t know what else you say to these people. But to me death is not–death is not a fearful thing. It’s living that’s cursed. Not worth living like this.

Who walked out of here today? See all those who walked out? Mostly white people. Mostly white people walked. I’m so grateful for the ones that didn’t–those who knew who they are. I just know that there’s no point– there’s no point to this. We are born before our time. They won’t accept us. And I don’t think we should sit here and take any more time for our children to be endangered. Because if they come after our children, and we give them our children, then our children will suffer forever.

If you quit tell them they’re dying–if you adults would stop some of this nonsense. Adults, adults, adults. I call on you to stop this nonsense. I call on you to quit exciting your children when all they’re doing is going to a quiet rest.

No, no sorrow–that it’s all over. I’m glad it’s over. Hurry, hurry my children. Hurry. All I think (inaudible) from the hands of the enemy. Hurry, my children. Hurry. There are seniors out here that I’m concerned about. Hurry. I don’t want to leave my seniors to this mess. Only quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly…. Good knowing you.

Liberalism is the most gutless choice a person can make.

jeff_from_mpls on August 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Enzi had better watch things very closely, as Senators are about to be recalled for their participation in all of this craziness.

Senator Max Baucus is about to find this out first hand. Watch as Montanans get things started.

Keemo on August 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

The gap is closing, not widening, on the vote. It will be interesting to see the headlines after the August recess of Washington has passed and some newer newsbites hit the airwaves from the Capitol. By that I mean there is less wiggle room for the politicians as the HR3200 proposal gets exposed, dissected, and revealed in the light of day. Fewer can dispute the largess, both in dollars and control, that the government would promulgate upon the taxpayers. Note that I wrote taxpayers. Everyone else, ie, non-taxpayers, is at the mercy of the teat, unless they choose to become taxpayers; and of course non-taxpayers could care less about the financial aspects of this bill anyway.

Robert17 on August 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM

No worries about money and deficits today my friends. For today we eulogize the Lion of the Senate.

Upon the conclusion of the eulogy, the Oldsmobile Key is passed—for Teddy would want Obama to continue his legacy of using people for his own gain and treat them with immoral disregard.

I couldn’t think of a better person to deliver the eulogy than The Won.

ted c on August 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM

the Oldsmobile Key is passed.
ted c on August 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM

That entire comment should be featured as a post. Green Room?

conservative pilgrim on August 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Senator Max Baucus is about to find this out first hand. Watch as Montanans get things started.
Keemo on August 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Senator Ben (Blue Dog) Nelson better get the message too, because he’s up for re-election in 2012 and will find out that Nebraskan’s will remember how he voted on the Health Scam in 2009.

yoda on August 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM

If Enzi is one of the few dealmakers in the Senate along with Snowe and Collins then he only pays lip service to conservative principles.

Someone in WY needs to end the man a Constitution and ask that he read it and answer the question, ‘where does the Constitution grant the federal government the authority to create a national health care plan?’.

We have to get the GOP to stop trying to be liked, loved, or even seen as ‘reasonable’ but he Left. If they stick to the Constitution then they have all the defense they need. Blame it all on the Founders!

DerKrieger on August 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM

JoeinTX on August 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Although much of the bill will not become effective until 2013, it’s my understanding that the building of a lot of the infrastructure begins right away and, here’s the really fun part, we have to start paying for it via tax hikes almost immediately.

TXUS on August 29, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Time shall tell–for today, the Oldsmobile Key is passed.

ted c on August 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM

And, for sure, this ain’t your daddy’s Oldsmobile!

P.S. POTD, Ted.

TXUS on August 29, 2009 at 11:32 AM

I don’t know anything about this Enzi RINO. I can’t believe there would be a squish like this in Wyoming.

Jaibones on August 29, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Jaibones on August 29, 2009 at 11:33 AM

I’ve often wondered about the personality type and psychology of people who run for office. Rarely do people run for office out of a sens for duty, IMO, but rather they run for office to achieve personal goals. How else to explain RINO behavior? They have zero principles so the only motivation can be personal. They get to go to the best parties, be on the speed dial of the MSM, be fawned over and belong to an exclusive club (Congress). For a true, principled Conservative public office is a burden like military service, a duty to country that must pursued with honesty and integrity. RINOs lack these characteristics.

DerKrieger on August 29, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Teddy was a quitter.

faraway on August 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM

When Enzi walks away, he will take the tattered fig leaf of Democratic moderation with him, and the Democrats will have to run the risk of looking both radical and dictatorial in pushing through a plan that has generated anger and revulsion across the nation.

That risk is miniscule, until local polls show more than just a few already vulnerable Democrats losing reelection, than they will continue to be unfased. The Democrat Party appears more than willing to sacrifice a few Senators and Representatives here and there to the cause of socialist reform.

As long as the Democrat Party remains in power, and continues to have support from the MSM, unions, ACORN, AARP, and various other operatives they will push their programs unabated.

Rode Werk on August 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM

yoda on August 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Most states have a “recall” feature. In Montana, you only need 10% of the voting population to put the Senator into a recall session. The ball will be rolling very soon on Max Baucus…

Keemo on August 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM

My employer, a health insurance company, is girded its loins for the worst. People are jumping ship left and right and they are “restructuring” certain departments.

I hope it all fails beause the ObamaCare bills all blow, but I’m expecting the worst.

mjk on August 29, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Most states have a “recall” feature. In Montana, you only need 10% of the voting population to put the Senator into a recall session. The ball will be rolling very soon on Max Baucus…

Keemo on August 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Yep, Baucus is done here if things go the way he wants. People here are PPPPIIIIISSSSEEEDDDDD.

mjk on August 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM

the GOP has a full proposal for health-care reform along those principles in the House, HR2520, introduced by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI).

Not too much has been talked about H.R. 676 either. Its title is even more troublesome:

“United States National Health Care Act or the Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act’’

To provide for comprehensive health insurance coverage for all United States residents, improved health care delivery, and for other purposes.

IN GENERAL.— No institution may be a participating provider unless it is a public or not-for profit institution. Private physicians, private clinics, and private health care providers shall continue to operate as private entities, but are prohibited from being investor owned.
(2) CONVERSION OF INVESTOR-OWNED PROVIDERS.—For-profit providers of care opting to participate shall be required to convert to not-for-profit status.

SEC. 104. PROHIBITION AGAINST DUPLICATING COVERAGE.
(a) IN GENERAL.—It is unlawful for a private health insurer to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act.

This is the one that Dean is pushing for.

Patriot Vet on August 29, 2009 at 11:57 AM

The national media has completely ignored this bill, which flies in the face of Barack Obama’s accusations that his opponents want to “do nothing” about rising health-care costs.

Well, they wouldn’t want to embarrass him with facts.

Jim Treacher on August 29, 2009 at 12:01 PM

mjk on August 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Are you a fellow Montanan?

Keemo on August 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM

The ball will be rolling very soon on Max Baucus…
Keemo on August 29, 2009 at 11:53

Let’s hope snowballs will be rolling down the hills in every state if this thing passes. EVERY POLITICIAN risks being voted out if they vote for this SCAM!!

Ben (Blue Dog) Nelson will be voted out if he votes for the Health Scam. He’s already shown his true colors voting for the Porkulus and the inflated budget and it wasn’t red, white and blue. The color yellow comes to mind.

yoda on August 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM

It makes me wonder. The media seems hell bent on this crap bill being passed. What’s in it for them? Will they be, like the rest of us, forced onto the public boil, that is this bill, or are they guaranteed premium care, in exchange for their unfettering support, and love for the spawn of sat…err the Messiah?

capejasmine on August 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM

These RINO’s think they are God’s gift and they think they are doing us a big favor by “backing away” from a ton of horse Sh__ that every decent American can see is not only horrible, but a danger to America! These RINO’s whether from Wyoming, or Maine or wherever can kiss my A__.

Cinday Blackburn on August 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM

yoda on August 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Indeed… The people will strike back in an effort to save the Republic..

BTW: watch this video; fabulous reminder of what this country is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXuGIpsdE0

Keemo on August 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Enzi’s plan has been around for a while, but the Dems have dismissed it as irrelevant and the Media have totally ignored it.

whitetop on August 29, 2009 at 12:36 PM

watch this video;
Keemo on August 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Thanks Keemo! Hope more people watch this video and can see what’s in store for us if this take over continues.

yoda on August 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Those canaries are dead or dying. Don’t be surprised if a few of of their votes support a Dem. bill this fall.
Randy

williars on August 29, 2009 at 1:14 PM

There is no trust left. Kill all the bills. Give them nothing. No negotiations. No compromises. Scorched earth.

elduende on August 29, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Well well, what a suprise, the Dem leadership refuses to make any meaningful changes to the bill, and the repubs wont fall in line.
Screw them. You want this POS, go for it. at your own risk. They can ignore voters now, they cannot starting next year. Keep the pressure on folks, I want to make damn sure the whole world knows what this crap sandwich is all about. And it aint’ about making my health care more affordable.
More noise from the conservative leadership is certainly in order. IMHO, not nearly enough of it, not enough guts. If the MSM ignores, you have to get louder and more creative.

JusDreamin on August 29, 2009 at 1:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXuGIpsdE0

Keemo on August 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Great link Keemo. Thanks! Time to send it off to everyone I know.

elduende on August 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Rode Werk on August 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM

There was an article a week and a half ago that laid out the fact the dems will lose at least twenty seats. Now, they will likely lose even more as the people see their radical ideology unfold. If they continue to press on obamunistcare, the backlash will be tremendous.

People are also pretty honked off at the RINOs.

dogsoldier on August 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM

I keep hearing people ask where the GOP is. Well, I am constantly stuff in the mail from the GOP railing against Obamacare and cap and trade and all kinds of stuff. I see them on TV, when the media actually bothers talking to them, saying that Obama is spending too much on too little.

I have heard people say they want the GOP to get involved in the tea parties and I have heard other people say they want all the politicians to stay away from the movement.

The truth is the pushback to Obama is not all conservative, some of it is, but some of it is moderates and Independents who feel like they have been lied to…some of it is from loyal Democrats who feel like their party has been hijacked.

The Republicans can and should offer up alternatives in terms of policy and ideas, but the real change is going to come from the people out here.

Just blaming Republicans is not going to get rid of people like Obama. No, people need to put pressure on their Congressional representatives and let them know they have had enough.

Terrye on August 29, 2009 at 2:31 PM

“Democrats will have to run the risk of looking both radical and dictatorial in pushing through a plan that has generated anger and revulsion across the nation.”
Ed-

Anger is good. Let it simmer. Many of the Democrats in congress believe we are just blowing smoke. The fire is following not far behind.

SKYFOX on August 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM

To capejasmine:

I don’t get it either. Once choice goes away, all the media people will be forced into “Common Care”. Over time, perhaps not much, all the union people will be as well. Do I have this right? Is there something I’m missing? Is there anything in the bill(s) that would exempt these groups?

Bhagwani on August 29, 2009 at 3:54 PM

could not the 2011-12-13 Congress simple vote to withold funding for this debacle preventing it from going into effect? No money, no monster. Choke it blue until (hopefully) a GOP POTUS takes office in 2013 and officially begins the process of killing it.

Am I all wet here?

JoeinTX on August 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Although much of the bill will not become effective until 2013, it’s my understanding that the building of a lot of the infrastructure begins right away and, here’s the really fun part, we have to start paying for it via tax hikes almost immediately.

TXUS on August 29, 2009 at 11:25 AM

What if they repeal it? Can Obama then veto the repeal? Wouldn’t we need a veto proof majority to override the veto? Anybody know? Also, when does the 5 year sunset begin, from enactment when taxes start to go up, or from 2013 when the “benefits” are in place?

txmomof6 on August 29, 2009 at 4:49 PM

That’s my Senator! Woot!

Jockolantern on August 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM

Time shall tell–for today, the Oldsmobile Key is passed.
ted c on August 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Does this mean OB will be resurrecting the Olds brand as GM killed it off several years ago?

chickasaw42 on August 29, 2009 at 11:23 PM

The Oldsmobile is heading for the cliff with Thelma (Pelosi) and Louise (Reid) behind the wheel… Hit the gas, Harry and go for that partisan (Democrat only) option!

2010 is just around the corner…

Khun Joe on August 30, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Olympia snowe
this is off topic but it has to be posted here. She is going to cave and side with the libs on healthcare. Burn her phones at her offices. Pick a zip code or a town in Maine, call her office saying you represent a group of seniors and let her know she’s out if she votes with the libs. Better yet, take a page out of alinskys rules for radicals and say your moderate democrats against the bill. Stop her now before she caves! Call now!!

texaninfidel on August 30, 2009 at 3:33 AM

Let’s keep the National Civilian Security Force, and use it to eliminate gangs who terrorize our inner cities. Let’s use them to keep an eye on the Black Panthers, ACORN, and other organizations that might threaten our constitutional right to a free and open election.
jeff_from_mpls on August 29, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Sorry Jeff, but it appears that you are unaware that the Civilian Security Force will be made up of inner city gangs,Black Panthers, ACORN, and the SEIU. He will rely on the thugs he already has and group them together under one umbrella.

M-14 2go on August 30, 2009 at 7:58 AM

I think maybe Enzi realized that those things hanging between his legs are a set he never really knew he had.

bluegrass on August 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Some help here. I’ve been reading HR3200, lost a paragraph in regards to ‘qualified training facility’. I’d swear I saw “veterinary school” listed as approved for Grants under the guidelines. My eyes are getting tired.

Did anyone else see this too?

Robert17 on August 30, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Fount it.

SEC. 340N. PUBLIC HEALTH WORKFORCE LOAN REPAYMENT PROGRAM.

`(a) Establishment- The Secretary shall establish the Public Health Workforce Loan Repayment Program (referred to in this section as the `Program’) for the purpose described in section 340L(a).

`(b) Eligibility- To be eligible to participate in the Program, an individual shall–

`(1)(A) have a graduate degree from an accredited school or program of public health;

`(B) have demonstrated expertise in public health and have a graduate degree in a course of study or program (approved by the Secretary) from–

`(i) an accredited school or program of nursing; health administration, management, or policy; preventive medicine; laboratory science; veterinary medicine; or dental medicine; or

Does this make any sense to anyone? (emphasis mine)

Robert17 on August 30, 2009 at 1:14 PM