Video: “This used to be America!” “It ain’t no more, okay?”

posted at 6:52 pm on August 28, 2009 by Allahpundit

Lots of outrageously outraged e-mails flowing in about this, although it’s interesting to me mainly as a First Amendment curio. The footage comes from Jim Moran’s health-care town hall on Tuesday night. The question: Can a congressman bar signs, or certain types of signs, from an event at which he’s speaking? The answer (and the ambiguity) turns, I assume, on whether the event is “public” or “private.” It’s a public school and Moran is very much a public official, but recall that Claire McCaskill evidently got away with imposing a “no signs” policy at her own town hall where the incident with the Rosa Parks poster happened. That makes me think either there’s some sort of public/private wrinkle to these meetings that we’re missing or that banning signs is valid as a “time, place, or manner” restriction on certain forms of speech. But if that’s so, why does the guard here seem to distinguish between signs with images on them and signs that are text-only? Help me, constitutional scholars and law-school grads, you’re my only hope!

The sign itself is actually stupid. And the cutesy little caption about FEMA camps doesn’t inspire confidence either.


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Cheeks is just an example of The New Professionalism that Justice Scalia has cited in SCOTUS opinions.

friendlygrizzly on August 29, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Wonder if the school district mail boxes will overflow before Monday.

PKO Strany on August 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM

Bottom line: to implicate constitutional protections, it requires a government action. Just because it’s a public official at a public event, doesn’t mean it violates a provision which begins with the phrase “Congress shall make no law.”

Let’s bring nuance back, alright folks? You can disagree with a congressman’s approach to the town hall format, but that doesn’t give it constitutional implications. Be sure to express your opinion at the polls or at other venues. There’s no “right” to a town hall meeting, either, by the way.

I’m absolutely sick of the “rights” language across the board. Conservatives should know better.

cackcon on August 30, 2009 at 2:38 AM

Olympia snowe
this is off topic but it has to be posted here. She is going to cave and side with the libs on healthcare. Burn her phones at her offices. Pick a zip code or a town in Maine, call her office saying you represent a group of seniors and let her know she’s out if she votes with the libs. Better yet, take a page out of alinskys rules for radicals and say your moderate democrats against the bill. Stop her now before she caves! Call now!!

texaninfidel on August 30, 2009 at 3:37 AM

the rebel inside, I would of make them arrest me

Conservative Voice on August 28, 2009 at 7:05 PM

They would probably cuff us together and we could sing “We Shall Overcome” or “Signs”.

thomasaur on August 28, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Sign me up, we’ll make it a trio!!!

gary4205 on August 30, 2009 at 5:19 AM

Wear it. T-SHIRT BANNER. Scarfs screen printed, pull out of your pocket and unfurl inside.

The question: Can a congressman bar signs, or certain types of signs, from an event at which he’s speaking?

Who’s to say the congressman barred the “picture” signs; rather, this rogue fascist swine dressed in law enforcement uniform did it on his own. /And I NEVER called a cop a pig back in the day./ Whether on his own, or by executive order authority of Obama, no difference: it’s unconstitutional to deny peaceful participation at a public event based upon (conservative) ideology. That’s discrimination and segregation at its worst, banning the constitution. And to make false charges “because he could” is hardly the confidence builder in this officer of Obama’s law.

maverick muse on August 30, 2009 at 8:30 AM

What does it take to prove, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that these Democrats are 1. Insane, 2. Incompetent (have no real idea how to apply ANY fiscal responsibility), 3. a disaster for the U.S. and “We The People”, and are intent on bringing the United States to it’s knees and make it one of the weakest nations on this planet?
But, before this is accomplished, they are going to steal everything of value for themselves?

Cybergeezer on August 30, 2009 at 9:52 AM

I guess it is the end of the world as we know it.

Skipper50 on August 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM

ChimpyMcObamaHitler‘s tools are blunt, but effective.

profitsbeard on August 30, 2009 at 11:01 AM

although it’s interesting to me mainly as a First Amendment curio. Allahpundit

Right. It’s a “curio.” That’s exactly what it is. Inspiring work.

rrpjr on August 30, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Lots of interesting thoughts on this thread. One of the better discussions here in recent weeks.

Good job, “ex-democrat”. Thanks for making the video, posting it, commenting on it here, and for ’seeing the light’ in general. Kudos.

I’ll tell you all this, I’d hate to be a halfway decent Law Enforcement Officer in the coming days who has a sense of Constitutional right and wrong, but also wants to keep his job.

In that vein, may I recommend this website?
http://www.sheriffmack.com/
and his new book: “The County Sheriff: America’s Last Hope”
I recently bought a couple of copies; one for myself, sent one to MY friendly local Sheriff and then made a donation to his program to send one to every Sheriff in America (it ain’t no more)

Looks like someone’s been really doing their homework!

BobAnthony on August 30, 2009 at 11:06 AM

The tigers will eat us without Obama!

bluegrass on August 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM

cackcon on August 30, 2009 at 2:38 AM

” government of the people”, “Freedom of assembly”……

Johan Klaus on August 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Beer Summit II.

Trusser13 on August 30, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Wonder what would have happened if the officer would have hauled the man holding the sign off to jail? Isn’t this the peaceful type of picketing that Martin Luther King did so many years ago? My guess is that this administration doesn’t care to recognize the Constitution or Martin Luther King.

yoda on August 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Wesley is right. It ain’t America anymore. The Supreme Court helped out with that just recently.

Here is the sad thing. The same people he is doing the bidding for have little or no historical use for minorities. Progressives are just using them to get to an end, which is not in the best interest of the working man(which describes most African-Americans).

archer52 on August 30, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Bottom line: to implicate constitutional protections, it requires a government action.

I’m absolutely sick of the “rights” language across the board. Conservatives should know better.

cackcon on August 30, 2009 at 2:38 AM

No.
The rights are retained by the people. No action, government or otherwise is needed imo.

Itchee Dryback on August 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM

This is a must read by all patriots!!!!

I’m not generally a “shot across the bows” kinda guy, but I felt that this message was important enough to be given in the form of a ‘fair warning’. If you agree, please attach your name or alias, post it, and pass it on.

FAILURE TO TAKE HEED AND ACT ACCORDINGLY FROM THIS POINT FORWARD IS UNDERTAKEN AT YOUR PERIL.

THE RECLAMATION OF INDEPENDENCE

WHEN IN THE GENERATIONS SUCCEEDING the one that pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to usher in the birth of the world’s only truly free nation, Liberty’s Progeny incrementally ceded their birthright to the government conceived and designed to serve a free people, and not be its servant, this generation is awakening to the terrible mistake that we, and our ancestors allowed to happen. Charged with the terrible knowledge that comes with opened eyes, we now take up the long abdicated duty to rouse our fellow citizens and actively wrest the power and the liberties that have been progressively talked, cajoled, threatened, wheedled, and extorted from us, not only by those who ostensibly served us, but by their supporters and enablers who, by accident or design, saw fit to usurp and disdain such freedoms, that they might be withheld, and where impossible to withhold, might be condemned, until a corrosive contempt for these liberties, wrapped in velvet gloves, might so suffocate the circulation of them that this nation, conceived in liberty and the providence of a wise and benevolent creator, might indeed perish from the earth, plunging the rightful heirs of a proud and noble heritage in the the darkened waters of chaos, despair, and evil that surround them, a dank deluge that even today, other human beings actively seek to escape from in the inspiring embrace of this blessed and free country.

We, the awakened and aware, freely accept the charge that the architects of this republic passed on to us over two centuries before, in the hope that all who partook in the blessings made possible by nation they created would somberly undertake the duties of citizens, and so appropriately train themselves in virtue, and educate themselves in the workings of the precepts and ideals set forth in their foundational documents that they would possess enough wisdom to recognize that not all threats to our freedom would come from without our ranks, the knowledge to recognize that not every chain and shackle menacing us will immediately appear to be what it actually is, and the humility not to assume that the ingenuity and innovation that has been the hallmark of American success has been the product of man alone.

To this end, we hereby identify and reclaim our independence from the tools used to slowly enslave a free people and usurp the freedoms that we could not be persuaded to freely give up, or voluntarily suppress the free exercise of on our own:

1. We reclaim our independence from the tyranny of ‘Political Correctness’.

The Constitution does not now, nor has it ever guaranteed a right to be free from being offended. Early successes in causing the disruption of free speech by insisting on the use of words or terms stripped of their meaning or altered by redefinition and deliberate use of ephemism, in order to avoid offending more delicate sensibilities lead to its use to deliberately avoid, delay, or prevent the free exchange and communication of ideas because we allowed ourselves to be more afraid of offending someone or being branded with a label chosen to imply that there was a problem with the offending speaker, rather than the intended recipient.

No more.

Words have meaning and names have power. But truth overcomes, when it is given the opportunity to exist unfettered by the artificial restraints that those who fear it would place upon it. The Founding Fathers knew this, which is why they favored the “marketplace of ideas” approach. And we now ratify and affirm this concept, having borne witness to the damage and impaired decision making that results when we remain silent and let others avoid any real discussion of topics, events, and ideas out of the fear that we might offend someone.

2. We reclaim our independence from your victimhood.

For too long, we have stood by silently, and allowed some to increasingly balkanize this country with sob stories of how one thing or another makes them a victim, and therefore they deserve some special deference, special preference, and recognition that they are special. We watched for too long, with growing alarm, as the hyphenated-Americans increasingly failed to take it upon themselves to overcome their victim status, yet continually expect to be rewarded for it as they brandished their victimhood like a cudgel, ready to bludgeon any who dared to question their entitlements and almost rapacious appetites to expand them.

No more.

One of the many unique blessings that this country has to offer is the presence of second and third and fourth chances. Others know this, and rather than think that the good things available to those who work for them were something that they were simply entitled to by virtue of their sob story, real or imagined, they decided to man up, and overcome. That doesn’t happen through accepting help and deciding to continually demand more. We are a generous people, but there are limits. Decide of your own accord to know the satisfaction of making your own destiny, rather than subsistence on the labor of others. You might be surprised at what you accomplish, or how that might come to benefit your fellow citizen in ways that you cannot even imagine.

3. We reclaim our independence from the myth of a compelling interest in diversity at the cost of excellence.

The latest affront to the ‘American Exceptionalism’ that our current President feels the need to apologize for in foreign capitols is the recent notion of a “compelling interest in diversity in our government, our institutions, and our culture”. This is the bastard child of Political Correctness and victimhood, which would not have been possible without the misapprehension of the concept of equality as enshrined in our law, the correct interpretation being that citizens of this country have equality of opportunity and equality in stature in the eyes of the laws that govern us. Once the “right” of offense took hold and started keeping company with victimhood, those benefiting from the employment of both decided that equality really meant that everyone had a right to be to be surrounded in all walks of life by people who looked just like them, whether those people were qualified to fulfill those roles or not.

No more.

Americans rose to prominence in the world in no small part due to the idea of merit and the pursuit of excellence. This was embodied in our government and institutions as much as in the private sector. Civil Service exams for public sector jobs ensured not only that people could do the work required of them, but that the best qualified were hired to do the job. Now, the standard in many fire departments, police departments, government agencies, and university staffs is not excellence, but the color of skin, gender, or sexual preference. The identity has eclipsed ability and we are all the poorer for it. Prepare for a change.

4. We reclaim our independence from the contempt of our citizenship.

For too long, we have silently permitted others to use the appeal of emotion to exact our acquiescence in their actively allowing people who have violated our laws to come here to live and work among us without asking permission to do so, or obeying our laws in doing so. We have allowed others to cajole us into allowing these persons to use our resources, and take benefits intended for citizens, without them being required to become citizens or apply for residence. We have been too long silent as others continually advocate for the application of the protections that are conferred upon us as our birthright to those who are not citizens and have tried to kill citizens, or have expressed a deep-seated desire to do so.

No more.

No sane person so despises something of value that is theirs by virtue of “the accident of birth” that they simply would give it away to others who want it and yet show contempt for those who have it by stealing it from them. Likewise, no sane person so dishonors a gift purchased with the blood of others that they will give it to those who only desire to kill or enslave them. No longer will we be silent as others confer all the benefits and protections of citizenship upon those who disrespect it, or would steal such benefits and protections without assuming the responsibility to pay for them, or worse yet, murder us because we have them.

5. We reclaim our independence from the “Freedom from religion” that has erroneously been read into the Constitution.

From the institution of Thanksgiving, to the architecture of our public buildings and monuments, the opening of government proceedings, down to the acknowledgement on our currency, this country has very deep and undeniable judeo-christian roots, and has been governed by leaders who unashamedly proclaimed their according personal beliefs while in office. It has influenced our laws and been the bedrock of every ideal that has allowed this nation to grow and prosper. This heritage has been the target of a decades long campaign to shove God out of the public square and exile him from congress with our elected officials by people who have refused the notion of a higher authority, because their own beliefs and desires are in contravention to those expressed by that higher authority.

No more.

Assaulting our national heritage with such dubious legal notions such as a separation of church and state that forbids any mention of God or expression of religion on or in state-owned property, and dismantling existing law with the fallacious statement “You can’t legislate morality” does violence to our history and demonstrates weak logic and understanding of what law is. The Founding Fathers’ intent with the Establishment Clause was the prevention of any one church gaining the favor and sanction of the Federal Government. A ban on ANY expression of religion or belief in God was never their intention, and the evidence of that is still surrounding us to this day. The current state of the law is based on a false premise that can be easily dismissed by a simple walk around the monuments and buildings in the District of Columbia, and taking out you wallet to pay for an ice cream cone. As for the “You can’t legislate morality” canard, this is also false. The law is, in its most simple essence, an expression of morality, codified. The question that then arises is whose morality should be expressed in the law? Those of people who can point to no particular belief system that has certain valuable virtues at its core, or those that can?

6. We reclaim independence from the cynical attempts to use shame to stop us from speaking out.

We have all felt this. The accusations that we are poor Christians because we refuse to give the government power not granted to it in the Constitution and go along with the currently contemplated healthcare reform bill. The charges that we hate the Earth and our children, because we oppose the highest single tax increase ever, combined with the deleterious effect on American jobs that would result in the passage of the Cap and Tax bill, which owes its existence to the myth of man-made global warming and the fact that it feeds the Federal Government its two favorite entrees: money and power. The charges that we are bad, greedy, selfish people for not supporting the idea that government and welfare entitlements are the way to improve the lives of Americans who are struggling, whatever the reason. The charges of “Racism” whenever we raise a provocative question or level a criticism at a person, policy, or idea that might happen to involve a person or persons who are not Caucasian.

No more.

Charges like “racist” and “racism” made without objective, quantitative support, and only the subjective justification of emotion will be ignored. The race card is maxed out, and the bank is no longer willing to extend the credit line. As for attacking our faith, or our practice thereof, we will no longer be held to account by people who do not understand the faith they would use as a weapon against believers, when the wielder subscribes to no belief system at all. Those who rely only on themselves for the regulation of their conduct and ethics no longer get to condemn those who answer to a higher authority. Not any more. We reclaim control of the shame that you have opted out of, and we will no longer allow you to use it to make us answer to you.

7. We reclaim independence from the notion that the Federal Government is the solution to every problem and the answer to every question.

For too long, we stood by and allowed debate and action on all matters, predicated upon on a destructive and dangerous idea: That the Federal Government is the only way to meet a need, fix a problem, or prevent a problem. In time it became a security blanket, and we became a nation of thumbsuckers, eager to give the federal Government more power and more money, if only it would keep us safe from life and the living of it as free people, until we no longer looked to it for protection from others who would have our liberties or destroy them; we looked to it for protection from the consequences of our own actions.

No more.

We were so fixated in seeking the federal government’s assistance with every aspect of our daily lives, no one within or without the Federal Government ever exercised restraint and said “No. The Consitution does not give the Federal Government the authority to do that.” And now that people are alert to the fact that the Federal Government is poised on the cusp of the largest power grab it has ever made with the healh care bill, some of us are finally saying “No. You do not have the authority.” The stakes have never been more obvious. Met with the anger of constituents who are actually paying attention, elected officials are employing various means to intimidate these citizens who are expressing their disgust and anger that a government that serves them would ever feel so entitled to our money and our data in the passage of something so clearly opposed by those who wold have to live under it, these servants have resorted to insulting their constituents, calling them shills in the pay of their political opponents, calling them stupid and saying that they simply did not understand the printed words on the pages of the bill, brazenly lying to them outright about what they have proposed and are considering, and filling audiences at public meetings with rent-a-mobs from the SEIU, ACORN, and others, so that they will face a friendly audience that is also hostile to the voters opposed to this latest demonstration of government of its leash. The days of promising good governance but delivering graft, corruption, and self serving sinecures are over. We do not care about your party; both have proven themselves reckless and dishonest. We demand that you act responsibly, that you do the people’s business, not your own, and we demand that you act within the confines of the Constitution. No more will we simply accept legislation that exceeds the authority strictly enumerated in the Constitution. No more will we accept interpretations of the Commerce Clause and the Necessary and Proper Clause that are so tortured and stretched beyond reason or recognition as to be unrecognizable to anyone who has read the Constitution. No longer will we accept legislation from the bench that relies not on interpretation of the Constitution, but mystical divination of mysterious penumbras that only a few ‘right-minded’ jurists can see. Those days are over, and you can return usurped powers to the states and the individual citizens in whom the Constitution rightfully places them, or you can have them stripped from you.

We, those who have come together in virtual congress to reclaim our independence from those who have by various means obtained it from us, realize that this probably wasn’t the HOPE! and CHANGE! that those persons had in mind, but nevertheless, the time has come.

Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere

Free Citizen of the United States of America,

August 29, 2009

Fmwoods on August 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM

OK, now go read it again and disseminate to all corners of the Republic

D’

Fmwoods on August 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Fmwoods on August 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I like it.

Itchee Dryback on August 30, 2009 at 1:00 PM

They would probably cuff us together and we could sing “We Shall Overcome” or “Signs”.

thomasaur on August 28, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Video please, I am begging you, there must be video.

Cindy Munford on August 30, 2009 at 1:14 PM

I believe that WE The people should start a letter witting campaign to get this asshole cop fired.
ALL that is needed for evil to succeed is for good men to NOTHING.

ColdWarrior57 on August 30, 2009 at 5:35 PM

THIS guy is a police officer or a school “rent a cop”? Good grief!

p51d007 on August 30, 2009 at 6:59 PM

What goes around comes around. Obama’s camp did the same thing. The librarian from Denver who attended McCain’s town hall meeting was just as foolish as this guy behind the camera.

spaz on August 30, 2009 at 7:03 PM

ZIP CODES MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU.

Olympia snowe
this is off topic but it has to be posted here. She is going to cave and side with the libs on healthcare. Burn her phones at her offices. Pick a zip code or a town in Maine, call her office saying you represent a group of seniors and let her know she’s out if she votes with the libs. Better yet, take a page out of alinskys rules for radicals and say your moderate democrats against the bill. Stop her now before she caves! Call now!!

texaninfidel on August 30, 2009 at 3:37 AM

Zip Code Post Office Town County

03901 BERWICK BERWICK YORK
03902 CAPE NEDDICK CAPE NEDDICK YORK
03903 ELIOT ELIOT YORK
03903 SOUTH ELIOT ELIOT YORK
03904 KITTERY KITTERY YORK
03905 CUTTS ISLAND KITTERY POINT YORK
03905 KITTERY POINT KITTERY POINT YORK
03906 NORTH BERWICK NORTH BERWICK YORK
03907 OGUNQUIT OGUNQUIT YORK
03908 SOUTH BERWICK SOUTH BERWICK YORK
03909 YORK YORK YORK
03909 YORK CENTER YORK YORK
04001 ACTON ACTON YORK
04002 ALFRED ALFRED YORK
04003 BAILEY ISLAND BAILEY ISLAND CUMBERLAND
04004 BAR MILLS BAR MILLS YORK
04005 ARUNDEL BIDDEFORD YORK
04005 BIDDEFORD BIDDEFORD YORK
04005 DAYTON BIDDEFORD YORK
04005 LYMAN BIDDEFORD YORK
04006 BIDDEFORD POOL BIDDEFORD POOL YORK
04008 BOWDOINHAM BOWDOINHAM SAGADAHOC
04009 BRIDGTON BRIDGTON CUMBERLAND
04009 SOUTH BRIDGTON BRIDGTON CUMBERLAND
04009 WEST BRIDGTON BRIDGTON CUMBERLAND
04010 BROWNFIELD BROWNFIELD OXFORD

Col.John Wm. Reed on August 30, 2009 at 7:45 PM

I saw that and couldn’t even think for a minute it shocked me so much. These are the kind that Barry is recruting for his army. There’s only two options. 1. They aren’t clear thinkers and can’t see that Barry’s ultimate goal is to destroy America. 2. They agree with Barry and also want America destroyed.

pitter43 on August 30, 2009 at 8:16 PM

May I make this simple. Vote her out. Let a democrat have the seat if you can’t find a republican in the state worth the effort (which would be a sad statement). Snowe shows up at the most inopportune times, like a big ugly pimple in the middle of your forehead just when you about to go out on a date.

Lets just pop her, and all her oily Rino friends, and be done with them. It is obvious the democrats are going to violate the rules of the Senate anyway, so a few less so-called critical Rinos isn’t going to make a difference. While they are doing their thing and crushing the constitution, let us do ours and clean house. When the Republicans come back they will have a clearer vision and message.

archer52 on August 30, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Someone PUH-LEEAASE hand me a pitchfork !!!

CEA_Agent on August 30, 2009 at 9:46 PM

No pitchfork.
Tar and feathers.

archer52 on August 30, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Every day it becomes more outrageous! “No pictures on the posters…you can’t come to my townhall unless you reside in my district…you can’t speak without a ticket…I will only answer questions I have approved”…ad nauseum. Who exactly do these people think they are? Is the Constitution suspended by congressional whim? Time to clean the House…and Senate!

indypat on August 30, 2009 at 10:49 PM

“This used to be America!” “It ain’t no more, okay?”

“You are about to be ruled by the black man cracker”

I see no difference between the two. One thug had a badge and a billy club and the other thug just had a billy club.

Wethal on August 28, 2009 at 7:24 PM

++100

lovingmyUSA on August 30, 2009 at 11:15 PM

I’m reading all these comments, and I’ll be honest, I’m crying like a baby. I’m only happy that my parents are dead and can’t see what America has become.

MainelyRight on August 28, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Honey, you aren’t alone, as I walked out to the kitchen to get another cup of coffee, I was fighting back tears myself!

lovingmyUSA on August 30, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Really? I would think that you’d be glad your parents are dead and can’t see you ACTING like a baby. If you are all broken up inside because of what a bunch of bucktoothed hillbillies are saying, you’ve got much bigger problems. For christ’s sake, grow up!

Good4Onan on August 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Hey moron, I’m 59 years old, try telling ME to grow up! By the way, don’t you have homework or something–or aren’t they assigning that in 8th grade anymore?

lovingmyUSA on August 30, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Liberals are using the police, laywers and the aclu
to TAKE away our constitutional rights
All so they can RULE over us
Steal our money
Rape the US constitution
crap on our flag and the us military
and then Depreive us of all of our rigths..

Bullshit..

no more
Its time for a change allright
a compelte change of government

starting right now..

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

veteranoutrage on August 31, 2009 at 1:06 AM

This is a SECURITY GUARD, in the Commonwealth of Virginia, has no more powers of arrest that you and I have.
WHY does this type of crap NEVER happen to someone who knows a tiny bit about the law. Security guards in Virginia can only conduct a “citizens arrest” and only upon witnessing a felony or act of bodily harm, just like any other citizen in Virginia.
What should have been said was; “Do it, arrest me.” and the second this rent-a-cop tried, HE would have been committing felony illegal detainment and the SECURITY GUARD could have been placed under citizen’s arrest. As for the comment that 1st Amendment rights are considered different on school ground, this is true, ONLY while school is in session, when school is not in session, a school then become like any OTHER public place which is owned by the public.
Folks, we need to know the laws when we are going up against these fascist dupes because these leftists will try to buffalo you into doing whatever they say and will attempt to play on the public’s ignorance of the law.
DO NOT LET THEM!

nelsonknows on August 31, 2009 at 1:12 AM

Folks, we need to know the laws when we are going up against these fascist dupes because these leftists will try to buffalo you into doing whatever they say and will attempt to play on the public’s ignorance of the law.
DO NOT LET THEM!

nelsonknows on August 31, 2009 at 1:12 AM

Great idea–especially since we are not “professional” community organizers! We need a handbook–oh wait, forgot there is one by that guy–what’s-his-face–Saul Alinsky or something…
Seriously, we probably really should familiarize ourselves with the local laws about unlawful assembly and such. Never know when it will come in handy…
But if it had been me–I hope I would have made him arrest me! We still have laws protecting free speech–and I might have made it on Hannity!!!

lovingmyUSA on August 31, 2009 at 3:22 AM

Oh yeah? Here are a few more words, from another Man of the Cloth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut-UPttf-dg

Fishoutofwater on August 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

NICE!

BobAnthony on August 31, 2009 at 7:44 AM

lovingmyUSA on August 30, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Thanks for telling Good4Nothing to crawl back under the rock. Sadness turns to anger and a strengthened resolve. NO MORE! Fighting the good fight together…

indypat on August 31, 2009 at 8:03 AM

Let’s stop bitching about it and get off of our butts and be in DC on 9/12! Until there are MILLIONS of us standing on the mall they will pretend not to notice! It’s not too late, there are planes, and buses going. FIND ONE!

patriotparty1 on August 31, 2009 at 9:45 AM

NO MORE! Fighting the good fight together…

indypat on August 31, 2009 at 8:03 AM

The day is coming when we must stand shoulder to shoulder, and back to back…

lovingmyUSA on August 31, 2009 at 9:54 AM

As a former flower child, some songs are coming back to haunt me:

“There’s something happening here
What it is ain’t exactly clear
There’s a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it’s time we stop, children, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down

There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong
Young (old)people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind

It’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and they carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side

It’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
You better Stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
You better Stop, now, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
You better Stop, children, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down”

Recorded by: “Buffalo Springfield”
Written by: (Stephen Stills)
Album: “Buffalo Springfield” – 1966

*emphasis mine

lovingmyUSA on August 31, 2009 at 9:58 AM

So, where’s the ACLU in all of this?

They’ll probably say that this is just another time, place, and manner restriction passing constitutional muster.

ieplaya on August 31, 2009 at 10:08 AM

IT’S A CRISIS! Therefore, dismantle the United States and throw out the Constitution!

Cybergeezer on August 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Well, there are special rules for public property, and this guy was (probably) doing what he was told. But had these been Bush protestors, they would have allowed them to burn a Bush doll hanging from a noose even.

jeffn21 on August 31, 2009 at 11:52 AM

As a Second Amendment advocate in Virginia, some of us have been at the forefront of this debate.

Many of us contend that the State cannot restrict constitutional rights on public property without legislation. This is why you are starting to see townhalls held at union-owned and other private venues. You absolutely can restrict who attends and what may be brought inside a privately owned facility.

Townhalls held at schools or any other sort of public building absolutely can not be restricted to entry, nor can they ban signs and posters.

As second amendment advocates, many have been working across Virginia to exercise the right to protect themselves at all times. Many “public-private” partnerships are being looked at as to their attempts to restrict constitutional rights. Think certain shopping malls or sports arenas.

IMHO, a town hall meeting by invitation only is an oxymoron.

riverrat10k on August 31, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Police state – literally.

redfoxbluestate on August 31, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Somebody in Reston please fill this out.Dippy cop needs 4 days off with no pay and retirement credit.Plus a demotion.
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Col.John Wm. Reed on August 31, 2009 at 5:33 PM

I think it’s time to Initiate Project Valkyrie!

ronnyraygun on September 1, 2009 at 7:52 AM

I must have misunderstood at Chinese New Years – this is the Year of the Thug isn’t it? Constitution? We don’t need no stinking Constitution!

semperfree on September 1, 2009 at 10:45 AM

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