Video: Bachmann zaps heckler over maternity care

posted at 1:36 pm on August 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Courtesy of The College Politico, who captures Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN)’s quick-witted reply to a heckler at her contentious town-hall forum on health care. Bachmann held up a stack of headlines about the health-care crisis in the UK, especially a report about how 4,000 women had to give birth in corridors due to a resource shortage in the NHS. When the heckler tries to disrupt her, Bachmann offers her version of Complete Moral Authority:

“I’ve given birth here probably more times than you, sir.”

I’d say. She has given birth to five children, and a home to 23 foster children. It’s hard to argue against her on maternity-care expertise.

It’s even more difficult to dismiss the report Bachmann wanted to highlight:

The lives of mothers and babies are being put at risk as births in locations ranging from lifts to toilets – even a caravan – went up 15 per cent last year to almost 4,000.

Health chiefs admit a lack of maternity beds is partly to blame for the crisis, with hundreds of women in labour being turned away from hospitals because they are full.

Latest figures show that over the past two years there were at least:

* 63 births in ambulances and 608 in transit to hospitals;
* 117 births in A&E departments, four in minor injury units and two in medical assessment areas;
* 115 births on other hospital wards and 36 in other unspecified areas including corridors;
* 399 in parts of maternity units other than labour beds, including postnatal and antenatal wards and reception areas.

Additionally, overstretched maternity units shut their doors to any more women in labour on 553 occasions last year.

On top of that, an NHS patient-advocacy group’s study shows that more than a million NHS patients received “appalling care” from the government-run health-care system:

The charity has disclosed a horrifying catalogue of elderly people left in pain, in soiled bed clothes, denied adequate food and drink, and suffering from repeatedly cancelled operations, missed diagnoses and dismissive staff.

The Patients Association said the dossier proves that while the scale of the scandal at Mid-Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust – where up to 1,200 people died through failings in urgent care – was a one off, there are repeated examples they have uncovered of the same appalling standards throughout the NHS.

While the criticisms cover all aspects of hospital care, the treatment and attitude of nurses stands out as a repeated theme across almost all of the cases.

Update: Fixed the quote.

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W’s enduring legacy.

benny shakar on August 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM

We thought you got accidently locked in the casket….

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 3:27 PM

She’s given birth five times??!!

Wow. Just wow.

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM

She’s given birth five times??!!

Wow. Just wow.

JohnGalt23 on August 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM

It gets easier with practice.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:30 PM

W’s enduring legacy.

benny shakar on August 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM

We thought you got accidently locked in the casket….

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Is fellating a corpse even legal? Benny, Benny, Benny.

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 3:33 PM

That’s one tough woman right there. The future of conservatism wears red heels….

loveya MB

ted c on August 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM

So why are there any male OB/GYN’s? If only females who’ve given birth can give reasoned answers on issues of that sort of treatment, why do we let men study it?

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM

As a woman, I honestly don’t know. It’s a little creepy.

Quit embarrasing yourself,troll boy.

katy the mean old lady on August 28, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Can we not throw the word around so much? Ernesto’s no troll.

Though, ernesto, I have to agree with this:

DrAllecon on August 28, 2009 at 2:25 PM

It was a throwaway comment to a heckler, no more, no less.

Doesn’t change the fact that ‘it happens here’.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 2:34 PM

True. However, if it is primarily illegals who are causing it to happen here, then it’s fairly safe to say the problem will only be exacerbated with more people thrown into the system who aren’t covered on their own.

Esthier on August 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Think what you want. At this point in my life, I wouldn’t take my dog to Parkland. The hospital is filthy, overrun by illegals and gang-bangers, and the nurses I dealt with were hags with attitudes.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:14 PM

I don’t know. I live within 5 minutes away from Baylor hospital on Gaston. If I could ever have a choice in the matter, I would rather take the longer drive to Parkland for emergencies. Parkland’s trauma is top notch.

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM

benny shakar on August 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM

And, oh boy, I can hardly wait for Obama’s enduring legacy for these 57 states.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Back to the topic at hand, as evidenced by Doorgunner’s post, publicly funded medical isn’t the panacea that the ‘crats insist that it is.

Thereby negating ernesto’s point that the horrors of the UK’s system are happening here. Maybe on the border at a publicly funded hospital flooded with illegals, sure, but elsewhere, certainly not in a meaningful was as pertains to this debate.

(Did I use enough commas, Mary?)

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM

There is a spelling and punctuation drought in Texas.
TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:17 PM

W’s enduring legacy.

benny shakar on August 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Can you really hear his misspellings when he speaks?

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM

You people should be relieved I didn’t bother commenting on Michele “No government control over my body!” Bachmann.

benny shakar on August 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM

However, if it is primarily illegals who are causing it to happen here, then it’s fairly safe to say the problem will only be exacerbated with more people thrown into the system who aren’t covered on their own.
Esthier on August 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM

I knew I forgot something in my last post. Thanks, Esthier.

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM

As relieved as all the cocktail waitresses in Beantown.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM

benny shakar on August 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I think I relieve you every morning just after my morning coffee…

right2bright on August 28, 2009 at 3:44 PM

As relieved as a Kennedy on a neighbor’s lawn after bar close.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

I don’t know. I live within 5 minutes away from Baylor hospital on Gaston. If I could ever have a choice in the matter, I would rather take the longer drive to Parkland for emergencies. Parkland’s trauma is top notch.

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Seriously? I’ve never been, but you’re the first person I’ve heard talk about it this way, and I’ve known several who have been there… as a last resort and only because it’s cheaper.

I knew I forgot something in my last post. Thanks, Esthier.

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Anytime. :)

Esthier on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Bachmann, the total package, is one of the hottest women in America.

marklmail on August 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM

American Power tracked-back with, “Bachmann Hammers Heckler at Raucous Anti-ObamaCare Town Hall (VIDEO)”:

http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/bachmann-hammers-heckler-at-raucous.html

Donald Douglas on August 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM

As relieved as the seat of a Hillary pant-suit when it finally hits the hamper.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:48 PM

W’s enduring legacy.

benny shakar on August 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Are you talking about Teddy’s “No Child Left Behind”?

Esthier on August 28, 2009 at 3:48 PM

in a meaningful was way as pertains to this debate

Preview is your friend, hillbillyjim. Doh!

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I don’t know. I live within 5 minutes away from Baylor hospital on Gaston. If I could ever have a choice in the matter, I would rather take the longer drive to Parkland for emergencies. Parkland’s trauma is top notch.

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM

I’ll agree on one condition: Only trauma and the burn unit, the rest of the hospital? No, thank you.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM

As relieved as post-botox Pelosi brow line.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM

As relieved as a Dodd mortgage obligation.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:51 PM

What a special Friday. The return of Bunny Shaker. Kind of like the return of the 7 year locusts. Oh, the excitement.

kingsjester on August 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Is fellating a corpse even legal? Benny, Benny, Benny.

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 3:33 PM

The MSM has been doing it since 2 A.M. Wednesday morning.

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM

(Did I use enough commas, Mary?)

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Use enough commas?!? Dude, you totally bogarted them! ;-)

Mary in LA on August 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM

As relieved as Michelle Obama was when she could finally be proud of the country she lives in.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM

What a special Friday. The return of Bunny Shaker. Kind of like the return of the 7 year locusts. Oh, the excitement excrement.

kingsjester on August 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM

FIFY.

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM

As relieved as Philly Panther Poll-Watcher.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Kind of like the return of the 7 year locusts. Oh, the excitement.

kingsjester on August 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Hey, at least locusts are edible, so they have some use. Trolls, on the other hand, barely even make good fertilizer.

Mary in LA on August 28, 2009 at 3:55 PM

As relieved as a Bill Richardson player with a subpoena-free future.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:56 PM

As relieved as Philly Panther Poll-Watcher.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM

I am really beginning to like you.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:56 PM

As relieved as a voucher-less DC school kid from ever having to do homework again.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:58 PM

As relieved as a Bill Richardson player with a subpoena-free future.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 3:56 PM

You know, I have a really strange feeling that the reason Bloated Bill has been let off the hook is because he is going to replace Leon Panetta when he finally gets fed up and quits. Just a hunch.
BTW, did you hear that the CIA is going to pay the legal bills of the interrogators…..

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM

BTW, did you hear that the CIA is going to pay the legal bills of the interrogators…..

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Kabuki gone wild.

Who gets to investigate the Attorney General?

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM

As relieved as Bill is since Hillary took a travellin’ gig.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 4:05 PM

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Kabuki gone wild.

Who gets to investigate the Attorney General?

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Either way, the American taxpayer gets tag teamed….

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM

As relieved as I’ll be when I wake up from this nightmare…

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM

As relieved as a Rangel rent income tax obligation.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Either way, the American taxpayer gets tag teamed….

HornetSting on August 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Taxpayers tag-teamed
Lady Justice gets reamed.

The Black Panthers get a free pass.
CIA agents get it up the nose.

hillbillyjim on August 28, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Relieved, like a liberal from rational thought.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Nice biatch slap Michele… My daughter agrees that awesome health care has been and is still being given to her and her kids; before, during and after birth…
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Why should we risk losing that again?
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Oh yeah, for Obama and Ted’s legacies.
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RalphyBoy on August 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I’ll agree on one condition: Only trauma and the burn unit, the rest of the hospital? No, thank you.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Seriously? I’ve never been, but you’re the first person I’ve heard talk about it this way, and I’ve known several who have been there… as a last resort and only because it’s cheaper.

Esthier on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Full disclosure:

I’ve never had to deal with Parkland either. However, it is my understanding that they are still the hub for all level one trauma in North Texas. Care flights and all. Worse case scenario, I want my gurney rolling through the doors of the facility with access to the most available resources at any given time. Definitely the burn unit.

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Well… I feel better.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Well… I feel better.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Relieved?

[sorry, couldn't resist]

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Well… I feel better.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I’m relieved to hear that.

DrAllecon on August 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM

She has given birth to five children, and a home to 23 foster children.

Another example of a selfish Republican. /sarc

rockhead on August 28, 2009 at 4:26 PM

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM

You and TXMom seem to agree on that, so I’ll differ to your judgment. I’d just only ever heard bad things about the hospital before. In fact, I’ve only ever heard of the hospital when people were talking about it disparagingly.

Esthier on August 28, 2009 at 4:32 PM

It gets easier with practice.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:30 PM

I hope you pez-out some more prickle pears. The thought of you mothering a great swarming brood of ornery Texas yungins makes me very happy.

TMK on August 28, 2009 at 4:32 PM

You can never be too sure with some people!Palin/Bachmann2012

Frances on August 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM

We’ve yet to determine if those babies were just brown, born to parents who don’t speak english, or were in fact illegal. It seems tough to make that sort of assumption, but for the sake of argument i’ll entertain the idea that it was overcrowded because it was in fact stocked with illegals.

Doesn’t change the fact that ‘it happens here’.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Jeeze. I’ve stood up and defended you before against the ‘troll’ attacks…Was going to do it on this thread…

My bad….

BigWyo on August 28, 2009 at 5:01 PM

She has given birth to five children, and a home to 23 foster children.

Another example of a selfish Republican. /sarc

rockhead on August 28, 2009 at 4:26 PM

My gawd, what a horrible woman! That 5 fees for Planned Parenthood that were lost.

Jeff from WI on August 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM

She has given birth to five children, and a home to 23 foster children.

Another example of a selfish Republican. /sarc

rockhead on August 28, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Most of the time I really hate women.But every once in a while you find one that sounds pretty good.

Jeff from WI on August 28, 2009 at 5:07 PM

That one could even for a moment assume that just because someones had a child that their arguments on health policy are somehow more valid…thats just silly.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM

What? Concerning childbirth my wife’s arguments concerning it carry a little more weight than mine. To think otherwise is just silly.

jimmy2shoes on August 28, 2009 at 5:34 PM

I don’t know. I live within 5 minutes away from Baylor hospital on Gaston. If I could ever have a choice in the matter, I would rather take the longer drive to Parkland for emergencies. Parkland’s trauma is top notch.

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM
I’ll agree on one condition: Only trauma and the burn unit, the rest of the hospital? No, thank you.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM

If you end up there just make sure it is not in July!

txmomof6 on August 28, 2009 at 5:45 PM

As for her ‘retort’, blah blah blah wah wah wah yap yap yap thats just silly.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Her retort was meant to shut up a dumbA$$ heckler, nothing else. You could also have said that you know plenty of men who aren’t experts on health care policy blah blah blah – the point was that costs in the government-run system do not allow for adequate infrastructure – there’s no profit to transfer from capital to assets. I won’t even ask you why you didn’t get it – I don’t expect you to get it.

ExpressoBold on August 28, 2009 at 6:02 PM

There is a spelling and punctuation drought in Texas.
TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:17 PM

W’s enduring legacy.

benny shakar on August 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Dubya never was nor claimed to be a schoolteacher. Why is a “spelling and punctuation drought in Texas” George W. Bush’s responsibility?

ExpressoBold on August 28, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Y’all know these NHS comparisons are apples to oranges…right? No ones voting on instituting an american NHS. Stop arguing around straw men, theres surely enough poor law in the current plans to take issue with.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM

You are right Ernesto. No one is voting on this… because this was passed pretty much without voting as part of the stimulus package. It is called the Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research whose function is the same as NICE in England.

ptcamn on August 28, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Ernesto has a valid point. My current OBGYN is female. My prevoius OBGYN of 25 years is now my Rep – he’s male. I would say that he understands healthcare issues for women quite well.

ladyingray on August 28, 2009 at 7:23 PM

You can never be too sure with some people!Palin/Bachmann 2012

Personally, I think a Romney/Bachmann would be a better choice.

Conservative Samizdat on August 28, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Bachmann’s awesome!

MCGIRV on August 28, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Good for you Michelle!!! There is nothing more annoying than to listen to men pontificate about reproductive rights or care.

Chekote on August 29, 2009 at 8:42 AM

It does happen here.

Working as an EMT in Austin TX for 3 years I have helped deliver several babies outside of a hospital setting.

Now, the reason they were outside of a hospital setting wasn’t due to the fact that there weren’t any beds available, it was due to the fact that the babies just came to damn fast. On one of my last days in Austin we were leaving the ER of St. Davids’s Hospital on 32nd Street a car pulled up with a woman wailing, she was giving birth. MY partner stayed with her and I ran in to get to ER staff and by the time we got back out to the ER bay they baby had already been birthed.

So, yes, babies are born outside of hospital settings, but it isn’t because of a lack of beds being available. It’s just bad timing.

RobertInLexington on August 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Y’all know these NHS comparisons are apples to oranges…right? No ones voting on instituting an american NHS. Stop arguing around straw men, theres surely enough poor law in the current plans to take issue with.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM

I seem to recall that all this health care stuff was supposed to be televised on CSPAN. We were told over and over and over by Obama that it was all going to be televised on CSPAN so the American people could watch what was going on. Obama’s administration was going to be open and transparent.

We can compare NHS to the Cluster F*** that Obama wants to bring on us. It is all because of health care rationing that the NHS has NICE panels exists. Are people so naive to think that it happens in every other country in the world, but it won’t happen here simply because Obama says it wont?

RobertInLexington on August 29, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Now, does Michelle here know more about maternity care in the US than say, a career think-tanker who studies medical policies and their effects on treatment? No. Because anecdotal experience does not create a compelling argument. You need data points, you need analysis. Sorry if i wont accept “i gave birth” as a compelling argument against a public health insurance plan.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM

But anecdotal evidence is what politicians work with on both sides, and Michelle’s five data points trump yours, methinks, and her experience matches my two. And, to put it bluntly, her anecdotal evidence trumped that heckler in her audience, whose place has now been taken by you.

Further, I doubt Obama’s crew has any “career think-tankers” working the issue — they go with the poor child whose parents have to scrimp to send him to private school, and who is covered by a government plan already — but still wants more.

The maid was poor — the butler was poor — it was a poor family.

unclesmrgol on August 29, 2009 at 9:57 AM

We consider this a disaster and outrage, the UKs NHS think “eh to be expected.”

darktood on August 29, 2009 at 9:58 AM

So, yes, babies are born outside of hospital settings, but it isn’t because of a lack of beds being available. It’s just bad timing.

RobertInLexington on August 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Not quite. According to this, about one percent of births in America occur outside hospitals, and most of those appear to be deliberate:

There was a revival of midwifery, the practice supporting a natural approach to birth, in the United States in the 1970s. However, although there was a steep increase in midwife-attended births between 1975 to 2002 (from less than 1.0% to 8.1%), most of these births occurred in the hospital and the US rate of out-of-hospital birth has remained steady at 1% of all births since 1989 with 27.3% of these in a free-standing birth center and 65.4% in a residence. Hence, the actual rate of home birth in the United States has remained remarkably low (0.65%) over the past twenty years.

unclesmrgol on August 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM

That one could even for a moment assume that just because someones had a child that their arguments on health policy are somehow more valid…thats just silly.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Cool. Non-African-Americans can now comment on African-American issues.

WashJeff on August 28, 2009 at 1:46 PM

And men can now comment on abortion?

Renae on August 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Well… I feel better.

Doorgunner on August 28, 2009 at 4:15 PM

lol, So do I. Funny rant. I take it you’re weapons cold now?

hawkdriver on August 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Benny Shitsniffer, I have seen some of the most hilarious, illiterate, tortured nonsense ever written from your fellow lefists. This is not an issue on which you can effectively demagogue. Try another.

Jaibones on August 29, 2009 at 12:12 PM

I am a midwife in the U.K. The problems we are having is mainly due to immigration.

These are non-compliant ,have little if any ante-natal care,
obviously not tax payers, Then they turn up at the last minute ,demanding epidurals

Also they don’t speak english(or say they don’t) Getting interpreters in costs a %100 an hour.

I choose to communicate through the median of mime and dance.

Some speak a language i have never heard of. That well known African dialect called Yew.
We couldn’t find anyone who spoke that language.We even tried DR. Doolittle.

We can critise the N.H.S but no one else can or we will send you all to the tower.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205953/NHS-branded-evil-Orwellian-high-level-US-politicians.html

We moan and whine about the N.H.S like we do the weather.
We are shareholders. Because we are using tax-payers money we are scrutinized more and open with stat’s.

Even those who complain about the system say they want it improved, not dismantled.

The N.H.S is not about entitlements and the right to health

Policy reflects society, even Thatcher didn’t dare abolish it.

We have a fundamental belief that if possible health shouldn’t be based on ability to pay.

All walks of life feel that way,we can’t all be stupid,it’s widely supported here

.It’s about our ideology not the scroungers.
Americans speak of liberty etc ,rightly proud of that identity.

We try to make it more equal with health,again because we don’t want health based on money.

We don’t care what health system you have.I am not comparing .

mags on August 29, 2009 at 1:59 PM

We have a fundamental belief that if possible health shouldn’t be based on ability to pay.

We try to make it more equal with health,again because we don’t want health based on money.

We don’t care what health system you have.I am not comparing .

mags on August 29, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Poor people in America get better health care than in Britain. Sorry for the cold water, but EVERYTHING is based on money. Doctors aren’t free (the U.S. has far more than just about anywhere). Buildings aren’t free (ditto more buildings). Beds aren’t free (ours are one to two per room – yours are ten to twenty to a room).

As for Maggie not daring to tear down the NHS, duh. Government programs never die, no matter how many people they kill.

Squiggy on August 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM

As as we muse with health care Cap and Trade moves healtfully forward through the EPA.

Ernest on August 29, 2009 at 3:34 PM

I think I love this woman. She’s smart and good looking. Just the sort of person that the libs hate. I think she and Sarah should link up…really drive the libs nuts.

Wills on August 29, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Benny and Ernesto, I have a question for you. Why are the illegals coming to the USA to give birth if the conditions are so terrible here in this nation? I thought every other country had a superior system then here. I am probably mistaken but people here have told me about the superior health system they have in Mexico over what the USA has. You will probably argue the point that Mexico does not have a gov’t system and therefore that will strengthen your argument. If thats the case why hasn’t Mexico come up with a nationl plan yet since its superior in the first place?

garydt on August 30, 2009 at 12:58 AM

BACHMANN for president!!!

love her….

right4life on August 30, 2009 at 9:46 AM

“I’ve given birth here probably more times than you, sir.” -Michele Bachman

“No attack ever fed a hungry child.” -Bill Clinton

This woman has it. She can hang.

cubbieblue25 on August 30, 2009 at 11:33 AM

“I’ve given birth here probably more times than you, sir.”

I just noticed, but it’s the word “probably” that makes the quote so hilarious. She doesn’t know the guy, and so, in quite an open minded fashion, admits the very faint possibility that he has given birth six times.

unclesmrgol on August 30, 2009 at 1:05 PM

You people should be relieved I didn’t bother commenting on Michele “No government control over my body!” Bachmann.

benny shakar on August 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM

You commented. So much for relief.

unclesmrgol on August 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Squiggy on August 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Poor people in America get better health care than in Britain. Sorry for the cold water, but EVERYTHING is based on money

I never said the N.H.S is free.
NHS is free treatment at the point of delivery regardless of income.

Nobody here is bothered what healthcare your ‘poor people’
have.
I wasn’t comparing, i was explaining ,so why so pissy?

On behalf of everybody in the U.K, will you please leave us out of your civil war that is going on there.

However if you can’t,then please stop writing crap about the N.H.S, like this.

‘ Beds aren’t free (ours are one to two per room – yours are ten to twenty to a room).’

We didn’t know whether to laugh or cry over this,

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100006517/stephen-hawking-not-killed-by-the-nhs/

‘As for Maggie not daring to tear down the NHS, duh. Government programs never die, no matter how many people they kill’

It is not, in actual fact, the state or the government which is responsible for the NHS. It is us. We pay for it. We use it. The state is merely a prism through which the money and the care must pass. The NHS is us taking care of each other.

You do realise we live in a democracy right? If the government don’t fund the healthcare system enough that’s a major strike against them come election time.

It is in the governments best interests to make a good job of it or they won’t be in power for too long. One of the main issues that always comes up around election time in England is still NHS funding because it is such a contentious issue.

There are arguments that can be made against our system, just as there are arguments for it, and if you agree with those arguments then that’s fine – I have no intention to change your mind here

mags on August 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM

WTF???? How do you turn a woman in labor away from a hospital? I sure there had to room somewhere in the hospital set up for medical procedures where the woman could have given birth in a safer environment. Hell an empty exam room or conference room would be better than the sidewalk, passenger seat of a cab, or on a bus? A**clowns.

Sure there are women who give birth on elevators, sidewalks, and bethroom stall here in the US, but not because of the hospitals kicked them out.

Governments and the institutions they run loose all ability to think rationally and logically it seems.

thmsmgnm on August 30, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Olympia snowe
this is off topic but it has to be posted here. She is going to cave and side with the libs on healthcare. Burn her phones at her offices. Pick a zip code or a town in Maine, call her office saying you represent a group of seniors and let her know she’s out if she votes with the libs. Better yet, take a page out of alinskys rules for radicals and say your moderate democrats against the bill. Stop her now before she caves! Call now!!

texaninfidel on August 30, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Please Michele, just expand your district a couple more blocks into Betty’s, so I can have a representative too.

oakpack on August 30, 2009 at 5:38 PM

You do realise we live in a democracy right?

mags on August 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Sorry to be “pissy” again, but let me see you get a seat in the “House of Lords” and tell me about your democracy.

Squiggy on August 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Loved Bachmanns response!
By the way, not only does Bachmann have 5 children of her own, shes been a foster mother for (get ready for this) 23 children! Talk about compassionate!

Belondy on August 31, 2009 at 2:03 AM

oops & I should have scrolled down and read the whole blog post where that fact had already been mentioned.lol Oh well.

Belondy on August 31, 2009 at 2:04 AM

Sorry to be “pissy” again, but let me see you get a seat in the “House of Lords” and tell me about your democracy.

Squiggy on August 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM

I have no need to defend our democracy to an American. Still don’t get it, we don’t care what systems you have.
Take as many jabs you want.
Obama is leading the way in the U.S so your perfect democracy must be working.
You all sound so happy and represented.

You wave flags to show you love your country even if you hate eachother,and you do detest eachother.

Health not based on ability to pay or income is part of our patriotism

An unobtainable for everybody ideal ,maybe,but still something we want for all our fellow citizens .

mags on August 31, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Democrats are so jealous of smart AND pretty Republican women like Michelle Bachmann, Anne Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Sarah Palin, Michelle Malkin, etc. There are plenty of pretty Democrats, but no smart ones, no doubt because being smart and being a Democrat are mutually exclusive.

MissDarcy on August 31, 2009 at 11:41 AM

I hope the inability to express oneself and to use proper grammar isn’t a part of your patriotism, too.

But, of course, health care which is not based on one’s ability to pay or on one’s income is a laudable goal. What you and others who support NHS fail to understand is that the health care people receive under nationalized care is sub-par compared to the health care people receive under a system like we have in the United States.

An indigent person can walk into an emergency room in the United States, complaining of blurred vision and a vicious headache, and he will get an MRI within hours, if not within minutes. I know many people without health insurance who have gone to the emergency room with true emergency conditions and have been seen and treated before people with insurance have (if their conditions are less severe).

Do the rich get better health care as a rule in the United States? Of course they do, just like they get better funerals (televised and with famous opera singers sometimes). And, if they have earned their money honestly, they deserve to get better care, just like they deserve to drive better cars and live in bigger houses.

In the United States, we believe in rewarding hard work and encouraging people to be creators of wealth because that has the effect of making society better for everyone. This is why poor people in the United States get MRIs. I wonder how many MRI machines exist per person in Britain as compared to the United States.

MissDarcy on August 31, 2009 at 11:57 AM

MissDarcy on August 31, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Good for you.
We don’t care what system you have or what laws you have for your poor.

We don’t even want to compare our’s to your’s. We want you to stop dragging us into your debate.

There is a high satisfaction rate here for the N.H.S.

We don’t blindly support it,we debate it all the time.
It has nothing to do with the U.S.

The UK health service was dragged into an increasingly bitter argument, with right wing commentators characterising the NHS as “evil” and “Orwellian”.

In the US, commentators have characterised it as a “death panel”.
I am a midwife who has worked in the N.H.S for 20yrs.I might know a bit more then others here.

I have not said you should get it,it’s none of my business what you do with your taxes.

I am not bothered how many M.R.I scanners you have.Ironically you are teling me that i am un-aware of your greatness.

The N.H.S is being mis-represented, that is a fact.If anybody wants to know more,ask away.

Just remember it’s you comparing ,not me.
I am explaining.

It’s immature to dismiss comments with,’yours is better then our’s angle,’ when i am not talking about your’s.

We have a different ideology that we are secure with. We are not arsed what ideolody you have.

mags on August 31, 2009 at 1:29 PM

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