Huckabee: Under ObamaCare, Kennedy would have had “to take pain pills and die”

posted at 9:07 pm on August 28, 2009 by Allahpundit

Audio here. So much for conservatives’ insistence on not injecting Teddy’s death into the health-care debate, I guess. Although Stephanopoulos is right: This is less about The One and ObamaCare than it is about Huck’s growing rivalry with a certain darling of the base who was way ahead of him on this subject.

Which Democrat will toss it back first?

Will any Republicans jump on it by challenging Huckabee head-on?

One thing’s for sure: by joining the debate in this time in this way, Huckabee is showing how determined he is not to be outmaneuvered by Sarah Palin in the early 2012 bidding for the GOP’s conservative base

How will Mitt Romney respond?

Minor inconvenient point overlooked in the rush to condemn Huck for politicizing Kennedy’s demise: If and when rationing begins, isn’t someone in Teddy’s situation precisely the sort of person who’ll end up at the back of the line for treatment? He was elderly and suffering from a terminal condition; if resources are scarce, he’s the worst possible investment.

Related: If you missed this Ron Rosenbaum piece in Headlines laughing at liberals for underestimating Palin’s shrewdness about “death panels,” dive in. It’s candy for the many, many ‘Cuda lovers among the Hot Air faithful.


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The headline implies that Huckabee thinks Kennedy would have had to commit suicide via pain pills, but that is not accurate. Obamacare would require anyone deemed not worth saving to go without treatment and wait for death with enough medication to deal with the pain. Naturally, the elderly would make up a high percentage of those people condemned to such a fate. As someone who has been on dialysis for almost 8 years, I wonder if someday someone will decide I’m not worth the expense and need to quit getting treatments.

nkviking75 on August 28, 2009 at 11:56 PM

A little late to the party, Huck?

We’ve been fighting ObamaCare for several months, and now when it looks like we’re winning, you finally decide to join the party?

Come on, man. I know of a girl with bigger balls than you.

Norwegian on August 29, 2009 at 12:24 AM

Huckabee: Under ObamaCare, Kennedy would have had “to take pain pills and die”

It’s just a bumper-sticker, but it goes on easily and it’s hard to scrape off.

Kralizec on August 29, 2009 at 12:24 AM

But Huckabee’s a little late to the dance.

He’s always late to the dance.

Huckabee still couldn’t keep up with Mitt Romney in the primaries even when Mitt dropped out. Huckabee barely squeezed by Romney at the very end of the primaries.

Huckabee’s just toooooo slick and smarmy. He makes Romney look unbeatable

That’s the only think Mike Huckabee can win in a competition with Mitt Romney.

Huckabee is slicker and smarmier than Mitt. I’ll take Mitt Romney over the Huckster any day.

Conservative Samizdat on August 29, 2009 at 12:25 AM

MB4: Isn`t the tax supposed to be 50%!!:)

canopfor on August 28, 2009 at 9:53 PM

MB4 on August 28, 2009 at 10:02 PM

MB4: Wow,only $132,000 in taxes,must be nice for the
Liberals who are Dirty Rotten Filthy Rich!!:)

canopfor on August 29, 2009 at 12:37 AM

Kennedy would not have been effected by NObamaKennedyCare because he is covered by the government workers plan. It is only the rest of us, those who will end our days on some government plan for lesser beings, who will be grateful if we can get some pain pills.

We may end up with a single payer but there will be a two tier system.

And the cost effective criteria for coverage was one of the features set up by the Stimulus bill and is already being phased in for Medicare and Medicaid participants… but not government workers.

Laurence on August 29, 2009 at 12:47 AM

He has always struck me as a day late and a dollar short. Well meaning, but puts his toe in to test the water. Palin already had taken a swim, was sunning on the beach in a bikini, and had roast beef and mayonnaise sandwiches with a cold beer sitting out.

GunRunner on August 29, 2009 at 12:52 AM

Late? No. Huckabee was the ONLY Republican leader to speak out against TARP and the bailouts. He’s been addressing ObamaCare, the ballooning deficit, and much more, for months. Get the facts before you just spew talking points.

PayingAttention on August 29, 2009 at 1:03 AM

For eveyone who says he’s late, texasconserv just posted that he’s been talking on his show about rationing of seniors since four weeks ago — before Palin’s facebook post.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on August 29, 2009 at 1:05 AM

Come on, man. I know of a girl with bigger balls than you.

Norwegian on August 29, 2009 at 12:24 AM

Reminds me of when that paragon of virtue, John Edwards, came out and endorsed Obama after it became clear that Hillary wouldn’t be able to catch him.

jana on August 29, 2009 at 1:15 AM

I’ll take Mitt Romney over the Huckster any day.

Conservative Samizdat on August 29, 2009 at 12:25 AM

Agreed. Huckabee is creepy… there is something very unwholesome lurking beneath that phony empathetic facade.

He’s a little *too* concerned about us, if you know what I mean.

jana on August 29, 2009 at 1:18 AM

I don’t think so. As far as I know, people of Kennedy’s age under Medicare get this kind of treatment. When people speak of rationing, it’s really about “non-life threatening” treatment. You can throw in preventative medicine to that mix too. The whole end of life planning thing is an attempt to cut care, but only shall we say “wasteful” care that occurs when people don’t make their wishes known and are kept alive an extra week when, if they had thought about it, would not have wished for that.

Palin pushed this kind of planning as governor of alaska. Republican congressmen have pushed this kind of planning in bills. It’s incredibly hypocritical for them to suddenly start with the death panel talk. Intellectually dishonest and broke.

Tom_Shipley on August 28, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Please tell me I didn’t just read this from a Hot Air reader. Please tell me you are not this dumb.

The “end of life counseling” IS NOT the death panels of which Sarah, and other intelligent and informed people are talking about. Let me say this again, the “end of life counseling” are NOT the death panels.

The death panels are the bean counters who will demand that the plan save money, which will most certainly lead to rationing.

The death panels are those who decides who will be worthy of health care, and who won’t. Read Dr Ezekiel Emanuel’s thoughts on who should be treated and who shouldn’t. Here’s a hint, anyone under 20 and over 50 can be reasonably sure if they have a chronic disease, or a life threatening one, they are screwed!

You’re idea that health care for only “non-life threatening” illnesses will be rationed, is misguided. It will be the life saving, expensive measures that will be rationed the most. It happens in every country that has socialized medicine.

As for Sarah, that is a really sad and tired liberal spin you have there.

Yes, she encouraged her citizens to be aware of living wills. But that’s as far as it went. She didn’t try to be the third person in the room with DR and patient. In Obamcare, there will be a government agent involved.

But again, end of life counseling has nothing whatsoever to do with death panels.

gary4205 on August 29, 2009 at 2:36 AM

I’ll take Mitt Romney over the Huckster any day.

Conservative Samizdat on August 29, 2009 at 12:25 AM

Meh. I’d consider letting Charles Manson take over right now as opposed to what we have. To my thinking, he’d probably kill less people,spend most of the day stoned and shagging a hippie chick. I don’t want Mitt or Huck as a choice, but I’d damn sure vote for either of them over any Democrat.

di butler on August 29, 2009 at 4:37 AM

Huck is right.

Terrye on August 29, 2009 at 7:29 AM

Go away Bigot!

csdeven on August 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM

Please tell me I didn’t just read this from a Hot Air reader. Please tell me you are not this dumb.
gary4205 on August 29, 2009 at 2:36 AM

Shipley is a despicable troll who infests HA. He is glad Kennedy is dead because now he can troll for arguments that are centered on something other than that vile Marxist Ochimpy. He loves him some Kennedy death.

csdeven on August 29, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Meaning Huck is the bigot.

csdeven on August 29, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Meaning Huck is the bigot.

csdeven on August 29, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Well duh. He opposes Obama. Therefore he is a KKK Grand Wizard.

angryed on August 29, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Nice quote.
Lousy Candidate.

Give me Palin or give me Jindal. In this battle I can do without Death.

darktood on August 29, 2009 at 8:54 AM

George is right. Huckabee is clearly competing with Sarah on this one.

Funny!

AnninCA on August 29, 2009 at 9:43 AM

A few above have alluded to what I wish to add:
.
Huckabee is a political opportunist in stealing both
Sarah Palin’s “death panels” logic and conciseness
by stating the obvious “follow-the-logical-consequences.”
.
That’s not a bad thing…just
give credit where credit is due.

Lockstein13 on August 28, 2009 at 9:30 PM

So, Huckabee is stealing from Palin by employing logic now? I love Sarah and would vote for her gladly, but I don’t think she invented “following through to logical consequences”.

And Huck has been on about this for weeks. People might not notice this, but if you search through TV Newser, you’ll see that he gets the top cable news ratings of the day every week with his show, often outscoring competing networks’ combined ratings. LOTS of people have heard about this because Huck has been a committed opponent of Obama’s policies, unlike Mittens the bailout lover. All you fools hanging out hope for Romney in 2012 or beyond can forget it. He supported the bailouts, passed his own Universal Healthcare in MA, and refused to criticize Obama on the financial bailout management and the GM takeover. NO THANK YOU. Whoever is claiming to run for the conservative votes will air plenty of commercials that will ruin Mitt’s claims this time around. He had his chance as the favorite and totally blew it. Huck helped blow his cover, and for that I thank him.

bcm4134 on August 29, 2009 at 10:18 AM

He opposes Obama. Therefore he is a KKK Grand Wizard.

angryed on August 29, 2009 at 8:49 AM

He is a bigot. Remember he was “THE one and only” Christian leader running for president. He also disparaged Romney’s faith with his hate speech coded in bigoted Christian speak.

Huckabigot talk a good game, but in reality he is simply a reason how some in the religious right have corrupted the republican party.

csdeven on August 29, 2009 at 10:37 AM

I must rush to close the logic loop.

Forget “death panels” as such. The determination of ongoing treatment is as PC as I want to get in describing this. Nevertheless, if, as in Obutwaittheresmore’s own words, giving Granny pain meds instead of a hip replacement is carried to it’s logical conclusion, someone attempting suicide should just be allowed to succeed? Don’t call the cops, don’t send the rescue squad, they would take up valuable mental health resources and will probably only try again. And certainly, using the logic of the pro-abortion debaters, don’t they have say-so regarding their own bodies? And they’re not likely to be productive if they do live, seeing how they must be “disturbed”.

I’m sure I’ve missed something here. Please, do fill in the gaps.

Robert17 on August 29, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Folks like Teddy,
Will always get the best care,
For they write the rules.

The Commissars of
The old Soviet Union
Managed to live well.

Take it to the bank…
The Elites protect themselves
From their plans for us.

Haiku Guy on August 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Huck helped blow his cover, and for that I thank him.

Granted, I didn’t follow the GOP in the primaries, but didn’t Huck completely bomb out?

AnninCA on August 29, 2009 at 11:50 AM

So, Huckabee is stealing from Palin by employing logic now? I love Sarah and would vote for her gladly, but I don’t think she invented “following through to logical consequences”.

No, Huckabee’s just engaging in a little “me-too”.

And Huck has been on about this for weeks.

bcm4134 on August 29, 2009 at 10:18 AM

That may be, but he’s taken strangely little heat for it. So I guess that means he’s really not all that effective as an anti-Obama.

ddrintn on August 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Huckleberry is going to run in 2012, period.

He’ll also run in 2016, 2020, 2024,……

He should stick to making his points on Fox. He’s a RINO plain and simple. Because of his efforts McCain won the nomination. Way to go Huck. When it was down to him and McCain in the primaries McCain STILL BEAT HIM.

He is as exciting as Cornbread.

PappyD61 on August 29, 2009 at 12:31 PM

PappyD61, not to nit pick, but cornbread is actually pretty useful, what with black eyed peas, red beans, and is a good base for dressing, as in turkey and dressing. Huckabee is quite a bit less useful.

Robert17 on August 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM

All you fools hanging out hope for Romney in 2012 or beyond can forget it.

The few of you fools hanging out hope for huckabee in 2012 can forget it. Google: huckabee obama gun. You will GET ONE MILLION HITS! Stick a fork in huck…he’s a colossal gaffe disaster and train wreck just waiting to happen. AGAIN!

“That was Barack Obama. He just tripped off a chair. He’s getting ready to speak and somebody aimed a gun at him and he — he dove for the floor.” – Mike Huckabee after his speech to the National Rifle Association was interrupted by a loud noise

Watch vile huck make his “joke” here and just imagine the MSM playing this 24/7 if huck tries to run again in 2012.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4873660

Shelby on August 30, 2009 at 5:01 AM

He has always struck me as a day late and a dollar short. Well meaning, but puts his toe in to test the water. Palin already had taken a swim, was sunning on the beach in a bikini, and had roast beef and mayonnaise sandwiches with a cold beer sitting out.

GunRunner on August 29, 2009 at 12:52 AM

Ha ha ha right on!

MCGIRV on August 30, 2009 at 1:59 PM

So much for conservatives’ insistence on not injecting Teddy’s death into the health-care debate, I guess.

Wouldn’t Huckabee have to be a conservative for this to apply?

Cylor on August 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

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