Honduras offers return, but not office

posted at 3:35 pm on August 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

While the US prepares to cut aid to Honduras for enforcing its own laws, the man they want returned to power in Tegulcigapa has an offer to come home — but not to return to office.  Roberto Micheletti, the interim president selected by the Honduran parliament, has offered to resign as part of a deal allowing Manuel Zelaya to return to his country.  Zelaya has to renounce any claim to office in order to accept:

The interim president of Honduras has offered the man he replaced after a June coup the chance to return to the country on the condition that both renounce claims to the presidency, a negotiator said Thursday.

Arturo Corrales, a member of a three-man Honduran panel seeking an end to the standoff, told The Washington Times that Roberto Micheletti was willing to make the concessions to restore peace and prosperity to Honduras following the coup against Manuel Zelaya.

The offer represents a turnaround by Mr. Micheletti, who has insisted until now that Mr. Zelaya should have been arrested rather than deported to Costa Rica on June 28. Mr. Zelaya was deposed by the military after he sought to change the constitution to allow him to run for a second term.

A former Clinton administration official pointedly remarked that the ball is now in Zelaya’s court, and that this offer is a test of his sincerity:

Lanny Davis, a prominent Washington attorney who represents the Honduran Latin American Business Council, said the new proposal “shows Mr. Micheletti is not concerned about power — he is offering to resign entirely from public life. … The question is, does Mr. Zelaya acknowledge that no one, even the president, is above the law?”

Both Zelaya and Micheletti would officially resign from office and pledge to retire from public life.  The next in line of succession would take Micheletti’s place (or Zelaya’s, depending on whether you believe in the rule of law or work for the Obama administration), and Honduras would hold open elections as soon as possible.  Zelaya would get a formal and full pardon for crimes allegedly committed earlier this summer, which prompted his removal by the parliament, Supreme Court, and military.

Zelaya claimed earlier that he only wanted to finish his single term in office and not run for election again.  This agreement would effectively end that term immediately, and allow him to claim at least a partial victory in Micheletti’s removal.  He could live his life in peace as a private citizen of Honduras without fear of prosecution, and his country could get back to business with its Western Hemisphere neighbors.

Davis is correct to emphasize that this tests Zelaya’s disclaimers about his desire to wield power.  If Zelaya doesn’t accept these terms, it’s difficult to see how Zelaya can keep claiming that he never intended on building a presidency-for-life.  A refusal would make it much more difficult for the Obama administration to keep defending and championing Zelaya, although so far, no one seems embarrassed enough at the prospect to think it will change.


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They’re getting squishy. Stand your ground Honduras!!

PappaMac on August 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Obama is calling Chavez and asking “What do we do now?”…

right2bright on August 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM

While the US prepares to cut aid to Honduras for enforcing its own laws

? Wha? I’m clueless, sorry…

bridgetown on August 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Criminy. It wasn’t a coup, damn it.

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Scroll down a bit, bridgetown. It was an entry earlier this week.

Zelaya may well accept; Chavez did time for a coup attempt before he hit the bigtime.

Chris_Balsz on August 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM

He could live his life in peace as a private citizen of Honduras without fear of prosecution, and his country could get back to business with its Western Hemisphere neighbors.

Actually, there would be immunity for “political crimes” but not “actual crimes” and there is a question of over $2 million dollars of Honduran government money that Zelaya walked out of the country with.

If he returns, Zelaya is up on charges for that missing money.

elduende on August 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Grammar Police give Ed the A-OK on this post!

Good move Honduras. Your move champ (and I am eferring to O-Bambi).

WashJeff on August 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Why are we interfering in Honduras anyway? We can allow citizens to be shot in the street in Iran, but stick our nose into Honduran affairs. Someone please drop Obama off in Mexico in his pajamas!

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM

It would be a bad deal..

his country could get back to business with its Western Hemisphere neighbors.

won’t happen…Honduras is ‘in play’, targeted. If the government of Honduras is forced to make concessions, the next step will be more demands for more concessions.

If the government holds, civil unrest, strikes, protests continue.

Skandia Recluse on August 28, 2009 at 3:44 PM

No.
There’s only one permanent solution.
Kill him.

corona on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

No.
There’s only one permanent solution.
Kill him.

corona on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Whoa, there!

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Why is the US helping the enemies of freedom & the rule of law?

Oh wait, silly me. I forgot who was president now.

rbj on August 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM

The One is totally 100% consistent! You can ALWAYS count on him to do the wrong thing for America! What a guy……..I know the folks back in Nigeria where The Messiah was born are so proud…………………..

Cinday Blackburn on August 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM

No.
There’s only one permanent solution.
Kill him.

corona on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Whoa, there!

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Actually we prefer “He shot himself 9 times in the chest”.

Iblis on August 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Actually we prefer “He shot himself 9 times in the chest”.

Iblis on August 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Isn’t it “He fell down an elevator shaft onto 6 bullets.”?

teke184 on August 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM

It’s a shame this Honduras situation isn’t getting more coverage than it is. Of course we know why.

kc8ukw on August 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Criminy. It wasn’t a coup, damn it.

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM

To this crowd, it’s a coup (or stolen election, when applicable) whenever there’s a peaceful, lawful transition of power that results in a fellow Marxist’s loss of power.

TXUS on August 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM

I fear for Honduras if Zelaya accepts this deal. And I detest our government for their part in pushing the LAW ABIDING Honduran government into proposing this deal in the first place.

jwolf on August 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Take our Zero too! Please!

Maquis on August 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Why are we interfering in Honduras anyway? We can allow citizens to be shot in the street in Iran, but stick our nose into Honduran affairs. Someone please drop Obama off in Mexico in his pajamas!

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM

There’s a big difference.

A. Iran is a dictatorship and people wanted to have a legitimate say in who would be their leader. There’s little to no hope the people would succeed. Therefore, this is a no-interest situation for Obama.

B. Honduras is a democracy and Zelaya wanted to turn it into a tyrannical dictatorship a la Chavez. This is extremely similar to what Obama wants to happen here, so he’s intensely interested in seeing how it would be played out for Zelaya to stay in power and make his dictatorship happen.

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:51 PM

This isn’t for Zelaya. It’s for Obama.

Mr. D on August 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Where are our Constitutional scholars explaining to the public that The Precedent, B Hussein, is supporting Zelaya’s attempted coup? Where are the people who should be castigating Harvard for graduating such a moron?

Well … we’ve got that moron Congress-critter extolling the virtues of Cuban health care and the great communist revolution in Cuba, we’ve got the czar bubbling over the fantastic revolution that Chavez brought to Venezuela, and we’ve got The Precedent of the US openly supporting an attempted coup by a leftist twat in Honduras … at least there’s consistency.

How much more of this does America have to see before it really sinks in?

progressoverpeace on August 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Actually we prefer “He shot himself 9 times in the chest”.

Iblis on August 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM

He was cleaning his gun when he accidentally shot himself. Nine times. In the back.

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Actually we prefer “He shot himself 9 times in the chest”.

Iblis on August 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Isn’t it “He fell down an elevator shaft onto 6 bullets.”?

teke184 on August 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM

I’m a believer in “went out on a recreational fishing trip and must have ended up as chum.”

cthulhu on August 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Actually we prefer “He shot himself 9 times in the chest”.

Iblis on August 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Isn’t it “He fell down an elevator shaft onto 6 bullets.”?

teke184 on August 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM

No its
“He fell down an elevator shaft onto 6 knives, then threw himself into a wood chipper.”

Iblis on August 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Will you hold my hand? That is a scary thought.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Where are our Constitutional scholars explaining to the public that The Precedent, B Hussein, is supporting Zelaya’s attempted coup? Where are the people who should be castigating Harvard for graduating such a moron?

Well … we’ve got that moron Congress-critter extolling the virtues of Cuban health care and the great communist revolution in Cuba, we’ve got the czar bubbling over the fantastic revolution that Chavez brought to Venezuela, and we’ve got The Precedent of the US openly supporting an attempted coup by a leftist twat in Honduras … at least there’s consistency.

How much more of this does America have to see before it really sinks in?

progressoverpeace on August 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Remember, a big portion of the country relies only on the MSM, and a portion doesn’t follow news at all.

So a good portion of America isn’t seeing any of it. So there’s nothing to sink in.

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Will you hold my hand? That is a scary thought.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM

My pleasure.

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:55 PM

A refusal would make it much more difficult for the Obama administration to keep defending and championing Zelaya, although so far, no one seems embarrassed enough at the prospect to think it will change.

Honduras’ Queen takes Hillarys’ pawn….check.

Your move, Ohamster.

BobMbx on August 28, 2009 at 3:55 PM

He was cleaning his gun when he accidentally shot himself. Nine times. In the back.

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Ah, clearly a case of suicide. BTW, it was a 12 gauge shotgun. Loaded with deer slugs.

rbj on August 28, 2009 at 3:56 PM

No.
There’s only one permanent solution.
Kill him.

corona on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Can I get you another bowl of Plutonium soup, Mr. Zelaya?

BobMbx on August 28, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Very true. But, they tried to keep the details of the health care bill(s) under wraps and those finally made their way around. All that is needed is for someone to ask McCain if he wants to revise his answer to the guy from one of his campaign townhalls who expressed fear that the idiot messiah was a socialist, bringing these points up.

The left is getting so brazen these days that they will start letting this stuff slip on the MSM, too, I think.

progressoverpeace on August 28, 2009 at 4:00 PM

corona on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

I agree, bring him back then put a bullet in the back of his head.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on August 28, 2009 at 4:06 PM

There is so much damaging information out there about Obama. However, our ever-vigilant MSM is like those 3 monkeys: Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil.

kingsjester on August 28, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Will you hold my hand? That is a scary thought.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM

How sharp the knife that cuts. :-(

TXUS on August 28, 2009 at 4:15 PM

There is so much damaging information out there about Obama. However, our ever-vigilant MSM is like those 3 monkeys: Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil.

kingsjester on August 28, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Correct, people are not getting the word on whats transpiring in Honduras. I believe if they were we would see backlash to the Ogabe regime.

farright on August 28, 2009 at 4:16 PM

How sharp the knife that cuts. :-(

TXUS on August 28, 2009 at 4:15 PM

You are on my short list, as well.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 4:18 PM

IT’S A TRAP!!

Doctor Zhivago on August 28, 2009 at 4:20 PM

You are on my short list, as well.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Do I get any extra points for being a TXDadof2?

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM

and Honduras would hold open elections as soon as possible.

Zelaya, Chavez and their leftist cronies are trying to delegitimize the coming elections by trying to pass a resolution in the OAS. They want to claim the coming elections null and void unless Zelaya is there to rig them.

elduende on August 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Do I get any extra points for being a TXDadof2?

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM

I’ll have to think about that. That would make me TXMomof5.

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Not a bad move, Honduras may want to keep its friends close, and its enemies closer. With Zelaya within its own borders, they can keep him under observation for any signs he’s organizing another coup. They can always throw him in prison again on new charges, and this time there will be no exile.

Socratease on August 28, 2009 at 4:29 PM

There is so much damaging information out there about Obama. However, our ever-vigilant MSM is like those 3 monkeys: Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil.

kingsjester on August 28, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Correct, people are not getting the word on whats transpiring in Honduras. I believe if they were we would see backlash to the Ogabe regime.

farright on August 28, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Nothing in my fifty years on earth makes me think that one American out of ten gives a tinker’s damn about a military coup in a backwater country. Hell, we can only get half of them to vote in our own election.

Bleeds Blue on August 28, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Sure, c’mon back Manny! We got a special prize for ya…

mojo on August 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Nothing in my fifty years on earth makes me think that one American out of ten gives a tinker’s damn about a military coup in a backwater country. Hell, we can only get half of them to vote in our own election.

Bleeds Blue on August 28, 2009 at 4:35 PM

The military was not in on the attempted coup by Zelaya.

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Do I get any extra points for being a TXDadof2?
Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM

I’ll have to think about that. That would make me TXMomof5.
TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Well, I’m a TXDadof2 also.

Daggs, dear fellow, it would be my honor to extend respectful invitation to a duel, if it pleases you. Weapon selection and time and place, your choosing.

TXUS on August 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Zelaya supported a plebiscite which would have extended his presidency illegally. Rather than pursue impeachment or civilian trial, the military deposed him. It was a coup and at least as illegal and far more menacing than anything Zelaya was attempting.

At any rate, he should take the deal and we’ll see if the Honduran army — not historically a friend of democracy — will yield.

Bleeds Blue on August 28, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Zelaya, Chavez and their leftist cronies are trying to delegitimize the coming elections by trying to pass a resolution in the OAS. They want to claim the coming elections null and void unless Zelaya is there to rig them.

elduende on August 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM

And you can bet one of the candidates will be a Zelaya tool. I don’t think this will turn out well. Wish they had stood firm.

a capella on August 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Honduras should know that the American people stand with them,, not with Obama!
Unfortunately for Honduras,, they probably have never heard of Rush, Hannity or HotAir. All they listen to is CNN International.

JellyToast on August 28, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Zelaya supported a plebiscite which would have extended his presidency illegally. Rather than pursue impeachment or civilian trial, the military deposed him. It was a coup and at least as illegal and far more menacing than anything Zelaya was attempting.

Bleeds Blue on August 28, 2009 at 4:47 PM

No, the act of trying to force a change in the constitution was itself illegal, with loss of office as a penalty, and their Supreme Court upheld the Constitution and asked the military to remove him by law. It wasn’t a coup. It was a constitutional procedure.

a capella on August 28, 2009 at 4:54 PM

The interim president of Honduras has offered the man he replaced after a June coup the chance to return to the country on the condition that both renounce claims to the presidency, a negotiator said Thursday.

And the Olive Branch has been extended………

BigMike252 on August 28, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Daggs, dear fellow, it would be my honor to extend respectful invitation to a duel, if it pleases you. Weapon selection and time and place, your choosing.

TXUS on August 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Weapons: I get a sword, you get a peeled banana.

Time and Place: Anytime in Fiji.

Beautiful islands. Friendly people. Excellent roast pig and boiled taro leaves in coconut milk. All the Kava Kava you can drink. Good beer, too. After a while I won’t care who won. Heck, let’s both invite TXMomof3 and whoever else wants to join in. Find me a nice Asian woman and I’ll trade weapons and lose on purpose.

Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Zelaya supported a plebiscite which would have extended his presidency illegally. Rather than pursue impeachment or civilian trial, the military deposed him.

The plebiscite was ruled un-Constitutional by the supreme court, and the whole idea of it is directly addressed in the Honduran Constitution. Zelaya ordered the military to distribute the ballots, anyway. The commander of the military refused to follow the illegal order and was removed by Zelaya. Zelaya then took some thugs and broke into the military base to steal the ballots and start distributing them, themselves. CNN couldn’t even put enough of a spin on it to justify anything, as they reported:

The Hondurans Supreme Court had ruled the referendum illegal, and Congress and the top military brass agreed, but Zelaya remained steadfast.

“Sunday’s referendum will not be stopped,” Zelaya said at the entrance of the military base where boxes of ballots were removed from storage and put into trucks to be taken to the presidential palace. Moving the ballots prevented them from being voided or destroyed to comply with the court’s ruling of the illegality of the vote.

This was well beyond anything but immediate action, which the supreme court lawfully decided, using the military to enforce their order, as per the Honduran Constitution.

It was a coup and at least as illegal and far more menacing than anything Zelaya was attempting.

Incorrect, but don’t let that stop you. The only coup attempt was by Zelaya. Period.

At any rate, he should take the deal and we’ll see if the Honduran army — not historically a friend of democracy — will yield.

Bleeds Blue on August 28, 2009 at 4:47 PM

The deal is being forced by the treasonous junta in Washington who have been lying their a$$es off about the whole situation in Honduras.

progressoverpeace on August 28, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Daggs, dear fellow, it would be my honor to extend respectful invitation to a duel, if it pleases you. Weapon selection and time and place, your choosing.
TXUS on August 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Weapons: I get a sword, you get a peeled banana.
Time and Place: Anytime in Fiji.
Beautiful islands. Friendly people. Excellent roast pig and boiled taro leaves in coconut milk. All the Kava Kava you can drink. Good beer, too. After a while I won’t care who won. Heck, let’s both invite TXMomof3 and whoever else wants to join in. Find me a nice Asian woman and I’ll trade weapons and lose on purpose.
Daggett on August 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM

We’re on, kind sir. And you’ll be amazed how proficient one can be with a peeled banana.

Yeah, we need Mamacita there and, speaking of shiny Asian women, think we could get MM to go?

TXUS on August 28, 2009 at 5:16 PM

a capella on August 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Here is the stooge Chavez and Zelaya are backing in the coming elections, while at the same time, they are actively undermining the very same elections in the OAS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Humberto_Reyes

elduende on August 28, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Interesting, how Obama’s people are allied with Chavez.

But, he ran as a centrist, so we have to believe he means well. Don’t we?

rogersnowden on August 28, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Interesting, how Obama’s people are allied with Chavez.

Also every other government in the OAS.

Bleeds Blue on August 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Bleeds Blue on August 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM

The Precedent and his people are marxists, plain and simple. They are as un-American as can be.

progressoverpeace on August 28, 2009 at 5:23 PM

The deal is being forced by the treasonous junta in Washington who have been lying their a$$es off about the whole situation in Honduras.

progressoverpeace on August 28, 2009 at 5:05 PM

It’s worse. It’s another indication of their ‘respect’ for constitutions and rule of law. Those are impediments to tyranny and they don’t feel comfortable with that prospect.

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Bleeds Blue on August 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM

So what is it about tyranny that you prefer it over liberty?

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Also every other government in the OAS.

Bleeds Blue on August 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM

An OAS that is dominated by 12 countries beholden to Chavez. Yeah they have a lot of credibility.

elduende on August 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM


this offer is a test of his sincerity

Did he ever have any to begin with?

GarandFan on August 28, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Michelletti the Quitter!!!!!111eleventy

The Monster on August 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM

anuts on August 28, 2009 at 5:24 PM

No doubt about it, anuts.

progressoverpeace on August 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM

And what is the position of the republican party in this affair?

Falz on August 28, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Obama put the full weight of the U.S. government against the people of Honduras and they are now starting to cave. If it were me, I wouldn’t let that wannabe dictator back in the country ever. And I surely wouldn’t have the interim president resign.
Hope the Blue Dog Democrats hold up better than the Hondurans after Obama pressures them.

Christian Conservative on August 28, 2009 at 5:46 PM

No.
There’s only one permanent solution.
Kill him.

corona on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

A lesson I hope our military will remember when the time comes

bill30097 on August 28, 2009 at 6:25 PM

No.
There’s only one permanent solution.
Kill him.

corona on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Can I get you another bowl of Plutonium soup, Mr. Zelaya?

BobMbx on August 28, 2009 at 3:57 PM

that would explain all those glowing reports of Zelaya that we see in the State-run Mainstream Media.

CatchAll on August 28, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Sure they should offer to let him return.
To a peison cell.

DDT on August 28, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Oops,prison cell.

DDT on August 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Maybe it’s a trap.
Let him come home to get 0bama off their back,
Then they find a previously undiagnosed, but rampant prostate cancer that solves the problem completely within a day or so.

We can only hope.

Be Steadfast, Honduras.

LegendHasIt on August 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM

There’s only one permanent solution.
Kill him.

corona on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Whoa, there!

TXMomof3 on August 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

It seems extreme, but Zelaya’s actions were extreme.

He acted like a king, and got burned.

And if you strike at a king, you must kill him.

Chaz706 on August 28, 2009 at 9:14 PM

The interim president of Honduras has offered the man he replaced after a June coup the chance to return to the country on the condition that both renounce claims to the presidency, a negotiator said Thursday.

Just because it needs to be hammered home, it wasn’t a coup.

holygoat on August 28, 2009 at 9:54 PM

“Lanny Davis, a prominent Washington attorney who represents the Honduran Latin American Business Council,” isn’t this the same unabashedly shrill shill for the Clintons? Is he pulling SecState Hillary’s chestnuts out of the fire by championing this half-assed, half-baked solution whereby a legitimate “Roberto Micheletti, the interim president selected by the Honduran parliament,” must step down to let this megalomaniacal Zelaya return and remain a cancer to the body politic of Honduras. Bad enough to suspend US aid to Honduras of $150M but perfectly alright to send $900M to Hamas. Smart Power has left the building (if it ever entered in the first place).

Bob in VA on August 29, 2009 at 2:06 PM