Hey, let’s give Obama emergency control over the Internet

posted at 8:33 pm on August 28, 2009 by Allahpundit

We’ve written about this before but the new and “improved” version of the bill’s just been leaked by Jay Rockefeller’s office. Remember the Bush years, when the Democrats ferociously opposed executive power? Good times.

If you think they’ve changed now, wait and see what happens if/when the GOP takes back Congress. Article II fee-vah!

A Senate source familiar with the bill compared the president’s power to take control of portions of the Internet to what President Bush did when grounding all aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001. The source said that one primary concern was the electrical grid, and what would happen if it were attacked from a broadband connection…

Probably the most controversial language begins in Section 201, which permits the president to “direct the national response to the cyber threat” if necessary for “the national defense and security.” The White House is supposed to engage in “periodic mapping” of private networks deemed to be critical, and those companies “shall share” requested information with the federal government. (“Cyber” is defined as anything having to do with the Internet, telecommunications, computers, or computer networks.)

“The language has changed but it doesn’t contain any real additional limits,” EFF’s Tien says. “It simply switches the more direct and obvious language they had originally to the more ambiguous (version)…The designation of what is a critical infrastructure system or network as far as I can tell has no specific process. There’s no provision for any administrative process or review. That’s where the problems seem to start. And then you have the amorphous powers that go along with it.”

Translation: If your company is deemed “critical,” a new set of regulations kick in involving who you can hire, what information you must disclose, and when the government would exercise control over your computers or network.

Here’s the relevant section of the statute. The problem’s not that it explicitly grants Obama all sorts of detailed powers; it’s that it’s not detailed at all, leaving the limits of executive authority in an emergency perhaps only to The One’s imagination. Yet, that said, I’m still troubled by this Times piece from a few days ago about the Conficker virus and how America’s techie brain trust just can’t seem to stop it, even when they put their eggheads together. If it’s some sort of trojan horse, it’s not unthinkable that whoever’s directing it could suddenly take over a huge number of systems, requiring a very rapid quarantine. And even if it isn’t, a future virus might be. The Rockefeller bill isn’t (necessarily) a bogus power grab, in other words, it’s a response to a genuine threat that maybe reaches too far. How do you limit the president’s emergency powers so that he can’t abuse them while keeping his hands untied to fight a new kind of warfare if need be? Any thoughts, techies?

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Let’s impeach Ogabe instead and get this place back to normal.

Bishop on August 28, 2009 at 8:35 PM

If Bush did it I would have trusted him. I do not trust Barry, or his racist, radical czars.

I also own an internet business so it makes this even worse.

Hening on August 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Works so well for China & Iran, why not?

jgapinoy on August 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Looks like there needs to be another web so if the Feds hi-jack this one, we will be up. Drunk on power is the wrong reason to give him power.

seven on August 28, 2009 at 8:37 PM

It’s not Obama’s job to shut down the internet. It’s a power grab and not a particularly well disguised one either.

BetseyRoss on August 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM

A simple reversal of phase conducer polarity on the turboencabulator should fix any problems and reduce the need for Chairman Obama to take over the tubes.

aquaviva on August 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Obama administration to the vast online right wing conspiracy:

“All your base are belong to us”

Hellrider on August 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM

All questions should be directed to the internet czar, algore.

txag92 on August 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM

They told me this would happen if I voted for McCain.

Baxter Greene on August 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM

The issue is NOT security for private computers… the issue is that they are using the Net to send traffic for the Power Grid and such.

They should not be on the public net in the first place.

Don’t take away my freedoms because some Suit wants to save money instead of creating an alternate SECURE network…

Oh… and for the record… MCSE, CNE, and been in the industry for 30 years…

Romeo13 on August 28, 2009 at 8:40 PM

The federal government will have to use other media to warn of viruses and precautions that need to be taken. I am against the taking complete control over any outlet.

Cindy Munford on August 28, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Uh, NO!

Upstater85 on August 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM

All questions should be directed to the internet czar, algore.

txag92 on August 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM

What’s he going by these days? Goracle or Galore?

Upstater85 on August 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM

The Rockefeller bill isn’t (necessarily) a bogus power grab, in other words, it’s a response to a genuine threat that maybe reaches too far.

It’s seems bogus to me…what exactly is he going to do in the event of a DOS with these powers? I would need to see some hypothetical use cases where this law would be applied to solve an emergency…and not some general “to protect a specific piece of infrastructure”. Technically, as it is, it really doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Also, I don’t trust Obama (specifically) with any vaguely defined powers…he’s pushing his executive powers to the limit as it is with this Czar business.

AUINSC on August 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM

This is the scariest thing yet and ObamaCare is downright frightening.

November 2010 cannot get here soon enough

gophergirl on August 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Over my dead router.

HoustonRight on August 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM

What is troublesome is not what would happen during an emergency but what would happen in preparation for one.
The Obama administration would be stretching their tentacles into all sorts of private companies that provide internet access. Cable companies,telephone companies and servers and web hosters and the like. Then he would appoint another unaccountable czar to police it.
It’s a little scary

NeoKong on August 28, 2009 at 8:45 PM

If Bush did it I would have trusted him. I do not trust Barry, or his racist, radical czars.

I also own an internet business so it makes this even worse.

Hening on August 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Partly the problem. While I understand we have unique challenges (technologically speaking) and thus need unique measures to tackle them, we still need to maintain our liberties and hold both sides to it. We were quite hoodwinked by Bush, too. Never again.

Mommypundit on August 28, 2009 at 8:45 PM

DC is full of punks and ding dongs.

Yellowdog12 on August 28, 2009 at 8:45 PM

It seems Allah is trying way too hard to give Barry the benefit of the doubt. Given what we know of his communist czars, takeover of the car companies, attempts to nationalize our healthcare, etc., I think that’s being way too naive and generous. I don’t trust this man with the power to control the internet, even in an emergency situation. It’s like giving Gandalf the ring for safekeeping.

Nope, not a good idea.

alwaysright43 on August 28, 2009 at 8:45 PM

This is absolutely the stupidiest idea they have come up with to date.

If B.O. thinks people got hostile at the townhall meetings over healthcare, they are going to go totally apes**t if he tries to enact this lunacy!

pilamaye on August 28, 2009 at 8:46 PM

The problem is having absolutely no trust in Obama to do anything other than what seems to be in his takover and control everything agenda.

Anyone paying attention knows that he doesn’t care about national security… So what would be his motive in doing this other than implimenting phase 2 of the Hope & Change plan.

katy on August 28, 2009 at 8:46 PM

How do you limit the president’s emergency powers so that he can’t abuse them while keeping his hands untied to fight a new kind of warfare if need be? Any thoughts, techies?

So long as we do common sense things, like isolate networks that manage non-IT infrastructure, im willing to go without any executive or federal authority over internet access outside of ensuring said access’s equitable, and open, distribution.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 8:47 PM

How do you limit the president’s emergency powers so that he can’t abuse them while keeping his hands untied to fight a new kind of warfare if need be? Any thoughts, techies?

What about writing a one year sunset on the powers granted, and that the powers given cannot be given more than two consecutive years.

Weight of Glory on August 28, 2009 at 8:47 PM

I think every new plan by PBO should be first qouted as a Sarah Palin Plan. when everyone start say how dumb it is. my mistake is was Obama

uber on August 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM

OK, so, this is one issue that I have a knee jerk reaction to. Like, I am actually shaking, scared over this.

Someone tell me how this could happen and what we can do about it. Aren’t there those who will fight tooth and nail to keep internet freedom at all costs? Hacking, etc. ? I have to hope.

Mommypundit on August 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Diebold!

SouthernGent on August 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM

The anti-Christ setting up his 666 system

bluegrass on August 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM

If Bush did it I would have trusted him.

Hening on August 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Why? I thought conservative opposition to government encroachment was a core ideology, not to be compromised regardless of party.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 8:49 PM

How do you limit the president’s emergency powers so that he can’t abuse them while keeping his hands untied to fight a new kind of warfare if need be? Any thoughts, techies?

I am no techies but it’s pretty simple, get a true American president.

farright on August 28, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Just rename this place Allah-Air.
TheOne will love it!

christene on August 28, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Why? I thought conservative opposition to government encroachment was a core ideology, not to be compromised regardless of party.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 8:49 PM

I think you just pointed out why the con-movement ended up where it was after 8 years of Bush…

Upstater85 on August 28, 2009 at 8:51 PM

I am no techies but it’s pretty simple, get a true American president.

farright on August 28, 2009 at 8:49 PM

How do we define “true American?”

Upstater85 on August 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Who sits around thinking up this crap?

fogw on August 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Someone tell me how this could happen and what we can do about it. Aren’t there those who will fight tooth and nail to keep internet freedom at all costs Hacking, etc. ? I have to hope.

Mommypundit on August 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Yes. Yes there are. No one’s happy about this on the tech side of things, even though that group is largely liberal or at least has no bone to pick with liberals. Sh*t, even I’m pretty furious. There’s no justification for it, I oppose it 100%, and I actually plan on getting into internet advocacy when i finish this degree.

There’s a national constituency who’s always supported a an open, free internet, that im sure oppose this sort of legislation.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM

They should not be on the public net in the first place.

Yes, the potential problems that could arise can be prevented by other means.

For a fraction of what they threw away on the stimulus, they could create many secure networks. I’d rather see “stimulus” money go to contracted American IT professionals to do projects than the union hacks laying cones on the highway under a Dear Leader sign.

reaganaut on August 28, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Who sits around thinking up this crap?

fogw on August 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM

commies.

katy on August 28, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Keep his hands tied and his power limited,he is too inexperienced to run this country.We know now that he isn’t running it anyway,all his communist buddies are.Thanks to Glenn!

ohiobabe on August 28, 2009 at 8:54 PM

I wouldn’t trust Obama with control over the
key to the executive bathroom much less anything else.

Texyank on August 28, 2009 at 8:54 PM

How do you limit the president’s emergency powers so that he can’t abuse them while keeping his hands untied to fight a new kind of warfare if need be? Any thoughts, techies?

Require that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, vice president, White House Counsel, and possibly Secretary of Defense sign off on the emergency declaration before the president has powers.

amerpundit on August 28, 2009 at 8:54 PM

For a fraction of what they threw away on the stimulus, they could create many secure networks. I’d rather see “stimulus” money go to contracted American IT professionals to do projects than the union hacks laying cones on the highway under a Dear Leader sign.

reaganaut on August 28, 2009 at 8:53 PM

+1

Why would any serious infrastructure be on the public net anyway? We can’t actually be doing that…right?

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 8:55 PM

If Bush did it I would have trusted him. I do not trust Barry, or his racist, radical czars.

Hening on August 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM

I don’t trust any politician with this kind of power, no matter what party they belong to.

“All your base interwebs are belong to us”

Hellrider on August 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Lots of people are gonna be having pr0n withdrawals if this passes and Obama gets an excuse to use it.

Left Coast Right Mind on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

How do we define “true American?”

Upstater85 on August 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Someone that puts love of country ahead of partisan politics. Someone that wants to defend our constitution and way of life.

farright on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

We are free only because the government allows us to be free. The people, on their own, have no power – literally. Everything is under government control including the power lines, the telephone networks, the cable companies, the water supply, and the air transport system, not to mention the military, and the internet. All of it can be shut down.

The only freedom the people have is their willingness to physically fight those government powers. And therein lies the illusion. Few would actually fight.

keep the change on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Why? I thought conservative opposition to government encroachment was a core ideology, not to be compromised regardless of party.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 8:49 PM

It’s the former for me. I wouldn’t give Ronald Reagan the authority to do it. Heck, I wouldn’t give Thomas Jefferson or George Washington the right to do that.

I trust no one that much.

amerpundit on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

OK, so, this is one issue that I have a knee jerk reaction to. Like, I am actually shaking, scared over this.

Someone tell me how this could happen and what we can do about it. Aren’t there those who will fight tooth and nail to keep internet freedom at all costs? Hacking, etc. ? I have to hope.

Mommypundit on August 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Answer= CNET. They will fight this tooth & nail. Unfortunately in the past they have had the UGF(United Geek Front)at it’s back. The Craigslister’s, the Google guys, Netscapist’s, yada, yada, yada.

After demonstrating serious bias issues during the elections, now I am not so sure they will have this.

I understand the premise, but given BHO’s record of TAKING OVER EVERYTHING and authoritarian proclivities, I cannot see this being a positive thing for America, at all!

Archimedes on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Over my dead router.

HoustonRight on August 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Chuckleworthy.

DrStock on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Someone that puts love of country ahead of partisan politics. Someone that wants to defend our constitution and way of life.

farright on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Well, in that case, I guess FDR would be ruled out…

Upstater85 on August 28, 2009 at 8:57 PM

commie czars

becki51758 on August 28, 2009 at 8:57 PM

It ain’t no mo!

LibTired on August 28, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Require that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, vice president, White House Counsel, and possibly Secretary of Defense sign off on the emergency declaration before the president has powers.

amerpundit on August 28, 2009 at 8:54 PM

I think that’s a great idea.

Weight of Glory on August 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Few would actually fight.

keep the change on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

I’m in. What shall be our battle cry?

fogw on August 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM

hmm..my internet was out for 2 days. Could it be…was it the one?

becki51758 on August 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM

I’d be just as livid if Bush had suggested doing the same. This fascist just realizes that the internet is the freshly tilled ground where the grass roots sprout.

Tough crap. Let the bastard TRY to do something about the freedom of speech. He’ll be out before that week is.

Spiritk9 on August 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Oh… and for the record… MCSE, CNE, and been in the industry for 30 years…

Romeo13 on August 28, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Thirty years in the industry and your credentials lead with two directory services qualifications that any monkey could achieve without any education or practical experience. Notably absent is any qualification in the field of information security, though I understand why given your position – it is a subject that Server monkeys very rarely know anything about, which is why they hire guys who make a lot more money than you to manage perimeter security.

This language referred to in this bill is about the development of a national cybersecurity strategy and response to deal with a serious, growing threat, that very few of you have the capacity to understand, let alone comment on.

And really… 30 years and you’re still a Server admin?

bileduct on August 28, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Why would any serious infrastructure be on the public net anyway?

The only reason I can think of is cost. Well, that and it seems to me our government is not very tech-savvy, a bit too cavalier when it comes to security.

I remember getting a letter a couple years ago from the VA, because some data was “stolen”, and an offer of a free credit report. Less than a year later I got a similar letter from the state of CT, because some tax records were “stolen”.

In one or both cases, someone had lost a laptop containing all the data. Hello? Why the hell was that on a laptop to being with?

reaganaut on August 28, 2009 at 9:00 PM

It’s the former for me. I wouldn’t give Ronald Reagan the authority to do it. Heck, I wouldn’t give Thomas Jefferson or George Washington the right to do that.

I trust no one that much.

amerpundit on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Neither do I. Guess i’ll be joining y’all on this fight :-)

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Who sits around thinking up this crap?

fogw on August 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM

The Thinking Up Crap Czar.

redrock on August 28, 2009 at 9:01 PM

One if by land, two if by sea.

The One wants to take our lanterns away from us.

Darksean on August 28, 2009 at 9:02 PM

TUCC & Cover?

Archimedes on August 28, 2009 at 9:03 PM

The Snitch Hotline goes nationwide.

TN Mom on August 28, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Get your hands of my internetz!!!

FontanaConservative on August 28, 2009 at 9:04 PM

reaganaut on August 28, 2009 at 9:00 PM

It can’t be that much of a hassle. It cant be that expensive. Sh*t you can design your systems isolated in the first place and that wouldnt cost any more than a system that gets accessed via the public net. its this kind of stuff that makes me want to get into government…atrocious, yet entirely correctable, government management.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Obama doesn’t need to be given anything. He’s now at the point where he just takes what he wants no matter what it is. Hey where is that Constitutional Watchdog (the free press) in all of this?

Tommy_G on August 28, 2009 at 9:06 PM

No need to worry we will months to debate the bill before any vote is taken…vagueness…now where have I heard that?

d1carter on August 28, 2009 at 9:06 PM

I thought “We The People” had an “On/Off” switch to our government when it becomes a threat?

Electrongod on August 28, 2009 at 9:06 PM

I wonder how the libs are going to react to this.

farright on August 28, 2009 at 9:06 PM

This move to a fascist socialist state has to be understood as such by Obama and the Democrats. It must be stopped.

Phil Byler on August 28, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Yet, that said, I’m still troubled by this Times piece from a few days ago about the Conficker virus and how America’s techie brain trust just can’t seem to stop it, even when they put their eggheads together. If it’s some sort of trojan horse, it’s not unthinkable that whoever’s directing it could suddenly take over a huge number of systems, requiring a very rapid quarantine. And even if it isn’t, a future virus might be. The Rockefeller bill isn’t (necessarily) a bogus power grab, in other words, it’s a response to a genuine threat that maybe reaches too far. How do you limit the president’s emergency powers so that he can’t abuse them while keeping his hands untied to fight a new kind of warfare if need be? Any thoughts, techies?

Under what hypothetical scenario could this possibly require government intervention? Any private entity too stupid to UNPLUG THE INTERNET AND RUN A MINIMUM OF HARDWARE OFF BACKUP DATA would quickly fail as the general public abandoned it.

What if most Americans did their cooking in the bathroom–shouldn’t a President have authority to regulate critical hygiene?

Chris_Balsz on August 28, 2009 at 9:08 PM

It’s the former for me. I wouldn’t give Ronald Reagan the authority to do it. Heck, I wouldn’t give Thomas Jefferson or George Washington the right to do that.

I trust no one that much.

amerpundit on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Neither do I. Guess i’ll be joining y’all on this fight :-)

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 9:01 PM

exactly. Enough with the damned hero worship and trusting either side carte blanche. I’m so sick of all these people. We should stand together for liberty. I’d rather go full libertarian and legalize EVERYTHING than have them take over the internet for “our own good.” Awful.

Mommypundit on August 28, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Somewhere in the not too distant future,Joe average hears
a knock upon his door,as hes busy blogging on his fav-
ourite RightSphere site,

Goodevening herr citizen,we are zee Computer Nazi Gestapo,
from the Ministry of the Computer Fairness herr Doctrine,

and,you have come to out attention,that you have been busy
besmirching and blaspheming our great leader,herr father of
our new America,

lucky for you,your our last stop tonight,under order of zee
Ministry,you have been found herr guilty,if you really don`t
mind,Hans has to get home early,so where would you like to
be executed,

come oninzee,we don`t havez allz nightz!!!!(Snark).

canopfor on August 28, 2009 at 9:08 PM

This language referred to in this bill is about the development of a national cybersecurity strategy and response to deal with a serious, growing threat, that very few of you have the capacity to understand, let alone comment on.

bileduct on August 28, 2009 at 8:59 PM

They underlying realities that gird the technical extremities are quite simple, clear, understandable, and comment-able. Your comment is silly, and betrays a simplicity to your understanding, that you attempt to cover up with patronizing prattle. Next time you feel the need to condescend to tell us that we’re all to stupid to comment on what OUR governing officials are writing that bear the sword of the government, please do us all a favor: retreat to your bathroom, look in the mirror, and recite to yourself how wonderful you are. Stroke your ego that way.

Weight of Glory on August 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM

For the record, I do work in IT in the architecture space designing Protected level networks and systems.

Periodicailly, and with increasing frequency, I watch our shared gateway infrastructure service get hammered with coordinated attacks of increasing sophistication. The original of these attacks are almost always foreign.

I have not read the entire bill, but it is immediately obvious what the language in the referred portion of the bill is trying to achieve.

It is saddening that the American population are more afraid of their own duly elected President than they are of a very real and present foreign threat.

bileduct on August 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Lots of people are gonna be having pr0n withdrawals if this passes and Obama gets an excuse to use it.

Left Coast Right Mind on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Obviously Obama hasn’t heard that “The Internet is just for pr0n”
(probably because Michelle keeps his balls in her purse)

Hellrider on August 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Me thinks,I could be wrong,but this Administration
seems to have a pattern!

And,it ain`t good!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on August 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Hope and Change with Transparency

Maybe after the eulogy for the whiskey sponge tommorrow, Jethro can get back to fixing the economy Harvard style and Communist style. A lot of the Kool-aid drinkers there tommorrow will be looking for him to raise the dead.

bluegrass on August 28, 2009 at 9:11 PM

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 9:05 PM

I am now stalking you on twitter. you should kindly do the same. :o)

Mommypundit on August 28, 2009 at 9:11 PM

How do you limit the president’s emergency powers so that he can’t abuse them while keeping his hands untied to fight a new kind of warfare if need be?

Keep the Spammer in Chief’s hands tied, thank you.

Ronnie on August 28, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Weight of Glory on August 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM

+100

Mommypundit on August 28, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Me thinks,I could be wrong,but this Administration
seems to have a pattern!

And,it ain`t good!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on August 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM

No, you are definately not wrong.

farright on August 28, 2009 at 9:13 PM

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 9:05 PM

I’m curious about this, since I’m not too sure how it works. Doing some digging around, it looks like a lot of them do have their own networks, so I’m not quite sure what the purpose of this is.

It looks like some of these networks are more vulnerable than others, but I can’t find much about data on the public net.

Maybe someone knows more about this.

reaganaut on August 28, 2009 at 9:13 PM

How do we define “true American?”

Upstater85 on August 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Look at the current part time occupant (he’s always going somewhere) of the White House and do a 180.

Tommy_G on August 28, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Here’s the problem: It’s too late. The cat’s out of the bag. Before this could be put in place, every freedom-loving internet user in the country would be emailing their Senators & Congressman, our Dear Leader, and each other–all at the speed of light. If that didn’t stop it, the civil unrest that followed would be apocalyptic. Especially if our access to porn was restricted in some way!

ncborn on August 28, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Maybe someone knows more about this.

reaganaut on August 28, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Im sure theres some 140k a year career bureaucrat that knows just how backwards everything is, and gets paid every day to come in and come up with reasons why we cant fix it.

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 9:17 PM

bileduct on August 28, 2009 at 8:59 PM
I’m in a really bad mood today and I want all of
you mean, know-it-alls that want to give my freedoms
away to just STFU! Everyday it is something else
that boggles my mind (ok, i know I’m not smart) and
makes me even more paranoid. But, let me tell you
a-holes something. The road to where I am today has
been a hard one and I’m not going down without a fight.
Yes, for those who happen to wonder, got my card and
I’m good at it if you know what I mean. Good day and
now I will go back to lurking and laughing at the
wonderful humor I enjoy on HA.

spacewife on August 28, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Computer Police!

This reminds of a science fiction 50`s movie!

As,the scientists convene,we must experiment,and have
a drink of the KOOL-AID,that way we will be able to see
where this is all going!!(Snark).

canopfor on August 28, 2009 at 9:18 PM

bileduct on August 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM

We don’t care who you claim you are or what you claim to have done. Your disregard for your fellow citizens concerns on the centralization of power, and the demeaning tone you took out of the gate is stupid. You foolishly confuse our comments as an attempt to understand the intricacies of cybersecurity, when instead it’s actually about the workings of a republic that has checks and balances, and how to maintain those checks even when a real threat is at the door. Every threat is complicated. Whether that threat takes the form of financial disruption, cybersecurity, domestic terrorism, full-scale warfare, espionage, energy manipulation, nation/state movements, and the like. The point of this discussion is how best to maintain the republic without giving into the tendency of drastically centralizing power permanently. If you can’t have that discussion without pissing out your credentials, while telling people that any monkey can do their job, then we don’t need to listen to your crap either.

Weight of Glory on August 28, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Let me guess…

Cyber threats include conservative blogs and other forms of internet media dissecting, overnight, nefarious legislative action, resulting in the common folk rising up against said legislation.

Without the internet, we would all be wondering how in the hell we got stuck with ObamaCare, whatever that is….

BobMbx on August 28, 2009 at 9:19 PM

ernesto on August 28, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Oh, it’s a team of bureaucrats, no doubt.

http://www.despair.com/meetings.html

reaganaut on August 28, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Hmmmm.

Or combined with federal authority to shut down FoxNews it could provide Obama with the ability to bring about a Chavez style coup.

memomachine on August 28, 2009 at 9:20 PM

My husband is a web designer and is into open source, coding, etc. So, he reassures me that people will fight like crazy to keep the web free. What I want to know is how easily could it all be wiped out by attack and how easily could one government take it out, in an “emergency?”

Mommypundit on August 28, 2009 at 9:21 PM

commie czars

becki51758 on August 28, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Don’t turn around.

- The Cat

MirCat on August 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM

“All your base are belong to us”

Hellrider on August 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Obama’s in mie base, killing mie dudes granny!”

Knife Tornado on August 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM

They underlying realities that gird the technical extremities are quite simple, clear, understandable, and comment-able.

Weight of Glory on August 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM

If that were in any demonstrable way true your post would be worthy of a more detailed response.

bileduct on August 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Too damn appropriate.

Spiritk9 on August 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM

We are free only because the government allows us to be free. The people, on their own, have no power – literally.

Everything is under government control including the power lines, the telephone networks, the cable companies, the water supply, and the air transport system, not to mention the military, and the internet. All of it can be shut down.

The only freedom the people have is their willingness to physically fight those government powers. And therein lies the illusion. Few would actually fight.

keep the change on August 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM

In general, I agree with your statement. Tragic. however, using the air transportation system is optional. I can fly my general aviation airplane to any place in the USA, without talking to the FAA once, if I wish. You just stay away from the big airports. Most airports are small enough to not even have a control tower.

I’ve stunned people before, who remark, you mean you don’t even have to ask permission?????

A small sliver of one of our few remaining freedoms. One we will, and do, fight for.

Jimmy Doolittle on August 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM

What is the tyrant’s worst enemy? Information.

What does the Internet give people?

Sensitive networks should be secured, by federal law if necessary. Giving the government control over the whole enchilada is a recipe for heartburn.

Kafir on August 28, 2009 at 9:24 PM

My husband is a web designer and is into open source, coding, etc. So, he reassures me that people will fight like crazy to keep the web free. What I want to know is how easily could it all be wiped out by attack and how easily could one government take it out, in an “emergency?”

Mommypundit on August 28, 2009 at 9:21 PM

In the attack and in the defense, whatever Washington thinks . . . it don’t work like that.

- The Cat

MirCat on August 28, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Don’t turn around.

- The Cat

MirCat on August 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Full of Win. Uh-oh-oh, Zsaa-Zsaa.

TMK on August 28, 2009 at 9:25 PM

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