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AIP column: Admission of Failure

posted at 12:55 pm on August 27, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Why did the Obama administration delay releasing the budget reconciliation numbers for a month, then try to sneak them into a Friday afternoon document dump in the middle of Barack Obama’s vacation?  They knew that the addition of more than $2,000,000,000,000 (trillion!) to their deficit projections was more than an admission of poor forecasting.  It also meant acknowledging that Porkulus failed, as I explain in my new American Issues Project column:

Back in February, when the White House and OMB first claimed that they had knocked two trillion dollars off of the projections thanks to the superpowers of their economic stimulus package, the CBO sounded quite pessimistic. OMB director Peter Orszag at the time replied on the OMB blog that the CBO didn’t give enough consideration to the power of Porkulus:

During last Thursday’s briefing on the President’s FY 2010 Budget, CEA Chair Christina Romer was asked many questions about the economic forecast underlying the Budget – and since then some news reports have highlighted differences between the Administration’s forecast and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) forecast.

The problem with this comparison is that our forecast includes the effects of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which has now been signed into law. The CBO forecast, by contrast, was published in January and did not take into account the effects of the Recovery Act.

To put the forecasts on an “apples-to-apples” basis, one can take the CBO forecast and add in the effects from CBO’s macroeconomic analysis of the Recovery Act—which included both a “high” and “low” estimate for the projected effect of the act. …

The results show that the Administration’s GDP forecast is entirely consistent with CBO’s forecast (and indeed right in the middle of CBO’s “high” and “low” estimates) once the effects of the Recovery Act are included.

This is an important point, and one which the media seems largely to have missed. The CBO estimate turns out to have been quite accurate, perhaps even a bit optimistic, but at least now almost entirely in consonance with current OMB projections. If that’s the case, then the data shows that the economic stimulus has had no impact on the nation’s economy, despite its hefty $787 billion price tag.

Consider: the OMB had the same economic data as the CBO from which to build baseline projections of economic activity. Orszag in his blog post says that the OMB reached the same conclusions as the CBO without including their estimates of stimulus reaction. The “apples to oranges” that Orszag references is that OMB included those promised effects when calculating deficits for the future decade, not – as he claimed later – that the recession was deeper before OMB and CEA concocted those projections. In fact, estimates of first-quarter GDP got revised upward later this year, and the Obama administration hailed the Q2 result of -1% GDP growth as an “improvement” in the economy, a small demonstration of economic illiteracy.

This dovetails with Keith Hennessey’s estimation of net job losses in 2010 of 2.3 million, or nearly 200,000 a month.  The failure of Porkulus will become even more obvious then, as the stimulus package ramps up spending without creating jobs.  However, the admission that the CBO had been right all along makes it clear enough that the stimulus package has had no effect at all on the American economy, and we can chew on that while we contemplate how to pay its $787 billion tab.

Be sure to read it all.  While you’re at AIP, check out the other columns and blogs, too.  John Hanlon looks at the Kennedy campaign for health-care reform.  Lorie Bryd contemplates the suddenly-relevant term “bazillions”.  Cassy Fiano has issues with Social Security.  (Already?  She looks so young!)  Kim Priestap takes a look at the admission of the exploding deficit from a perspective of trust.


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A lot of smart people in here: ICBM, et al.

OK. What metric can we use and where do we find the numbers to measure the increase of monetarization of US debt.

The debt as a percentage of GDP has increased; so, should we not measure the monetarization of the debt in terms dollars used for monetarization versus size of GDP.

Someone educate me. I want to be able to measure the acceleration of the process so that I can predict when my money will become worthless.

trollkiller on August 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Of course it failed.

$16.2M for a swamp mouse? That such happened and is much more emblematic of the spending planned is why, and it was never meant to succeed, IMO. Just the biggest legal bribery payoff in history, is all.

Harry Schell on August 27, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Which can only last so long, at some point the jig is up and our inflation rates skyrocket. What do you think 10+ trillion in debt is going to do with inflation?

John_Locke on August 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Only up. If the Chinese drastically cut back on Treasury purchases, hold on.

ICBM on August 27, 2009 at 2:26 PM

My understanding was that they are already abadoning the 30-year, and have dumped some. If my information is correct, who has been the buyer of the dumped 30’s? The Fed? Other countries? Billionaires? Shouldn’t the yield curve be inverting by now?

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 2:38 PM

I’m shocked that a Community Organizer with a resume like BHO’s was that wildly off in his assumptions, projections and assertions.

Who’da thunk it?

mankai on August 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM

I’m shocked that a Community Organizer with a resume like BHO’s was that wildly off in his assumptions, projections and assertions.

Who’da thunk it?

mankai on August 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM

That’s the problem — too many people are writing this off to his lack of experience. He certainly lacks experience, but the failure of the Porkulus to stimulate, his apology tours, his cozying up to Chavez, Zelaya, etc. — these things have nothing to do with lack of experience.

Daggett on August 27, 2009 at 2:44 PM

Long term budget deficits are RACIST!!

jukin on August 27, 2009 at 2:45 PM

P.S. Inflation or hyperinflation is a long, long way off. Watch the ten year treasury, it will stay under 4% signaling no inflationary pressure.

Bill C on August 27, 2009 at 1:32 PM

But, Obama controls the printing press.

Johan Klaus on August 27, 2009 at 2:48 PM

i thought the Fed was buying back our Treasuries.

and just because bambi is not an economist doesn’t mean buttkus. i suppose Ronald Reagan was an economist?

every idiot knows that you can’t borrow your way out of debt. duh

kelley in virginia on August 27, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Someone educate me. I want to be able to measure the acceleration of the process so that I can predict when my money will become worthless.

trollkiller on August 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Inflation may become so rapid, that you may have to start shopping several times a day, like they did in Germany in the 1930’s.

Johan Klaus on August 27, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Ok, I originally posted this on the “GDP decline twice as…” thread.

Part of todays post from Karl Denniger on The Market Ticker.
This is part of his post relating to the ruling to get the Federal Reserve to reveal the recipients of bailout funds. The Fed is, of course, fighting the release.

“The Fed is hiding the insolvency of banks. They, along with their handmaidens in Congress (which is where you work Mr. Sanders) even went further and twisted the arm of FASB to legalize intentional accounting distortions that I argue amount to fraud.

The truth of what has been done keeps peeking around the corner in the form of bank failures and FDIC deposit insurance fund losses, with the latest charade being Colonial Bank that was carrying assets thirty seven percent above where its acquiring bank believes is a reasonable mark on the day prior to being taken over, and which in the FDIC’s last published release was considered “well-capitalized!”

These losses and the costs of this cover-up are being forcibly extracted from The American People literally at gunpoint through the issuance of hundreds of billions of Treasury Debt which we, our children and grandchildren will have to repay – a staggering total that the CBO and Obama Administration now admit will total nine trillion dollars over the next ten years.”

Read that last paragraph carefully folks. Many bankers, politicians, and regulators need to be in prison.

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 2:58 PM

What are the numbers on monetarization currently?

I read an article recently which categorized most nations, institutional and large wealthy private holders of treasuries as net sellers of late.

To what extent of late has the Fed picked up the ball pumping money into the treasury actions at a higher than historical level?

trollkiller on August 27, 2009 at 3:03 PM

Keep a lookout for Ochimpy with a box of matches headed toward the Reichstag.

csdeven on August 27, 2009 at 1:40 PM

“Snuggie”.

The snuggie will be mandatory in order to save winter fuel costs. Everyone will have to wear it everywhere. That is why in the future, as shown in Star Wars, that the best people wear snuggies. They will be required all year long because the Messiah stopped global warming with cap and trade. Only wind farm operators will be exempt because of the number of windmill/snuggie accidents overburdening Chappaquiddicare.

Haunches on August 27, 2009 at 1:43 PM

lol. Conservative creativity on daily display here at HA.

tigerlily on August 27, 2009 at 3:06 PM

riverrat10K

You have redeemed yourself in my eyes. I thought you were a troll a while back. You must have been vaccinated.

trollkiller on August 27, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Well, coming from an anonymous computer person, I feel so much better about myself./sarc.

I just read this. I think it answers your second question but not the first.

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2009/0804.html

I am a bit curious about what I may have posted earlier that would get me the “troll stink.”

Good luck to all.

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 3:14 PM

riverrat10K

Can’t remember specifically; but, I thought you were in a row with a number of folks on a thread one night.

Thanks for the link.

trollkiller on August 27, 2009 at 3:18 PM

The more I see, the more I start becoming more suspicious of Porkulus. Much of the reason the OMB numbers now match the CBO numbers, which didn’t include Porkulus, is that most of the money hasn’t been released yet. Why is this?

Now, I don’t care how badly that money is spent, it will have some level of economic impact. Even if it could have more impact elsewhere. So what if the WH doesn’t want the impact to come yet? What if they are withholding the money to time the impact to their greatest advantage?

My growing suspicion is that the Porkulus flood gates will open in Q1/Q2 to create an improvement in the economy by the fall, just in time for the ‘10 elections. The people then go to the polls with the party in power having “saved” the economy and vote accordingly. Or so goes the plan.

I don’t know this is true, but the timing feels fishy to me.

StargazerA5 on August 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM

And thank you, trollkiller.
I am educated (at least slightly) as a scientist and a businessman. Though raised Catholic, my grounding in logic may sometimes ruffle the feathers of the more religously conservative on this site.

That’s all I can think of. If otherwise, it is just because I am ignorant, not malicious. :)

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM

What’s this got to do with Camelot and all?

Akzed on August 27, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Some of you guys STILL dont get it. This IS the plan. The total destruction of our countries economy, and our way of life so when he offers the lifeline of communisim the masses will run to him.

Stop making fun of Beck and LISTEN to him before it is too late!

Be in DC on 9/12

patriotparty1 on August 27, 2009 at 3:34 PM

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Good article and site. I should have a better understanding of the mysteries of the Fed. I actually have an Economics degree; but, I have modified aircraft for some time as a living. So, a lot of what I was taught is a little foggy or not as in depth as I would like.

Secrets of the Temple is a great historical book about the Fed. But, it doesn’t go into the actual machinations that go on inside the secret temple.

trollkiller on August 27, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Stop the their agenda. Turn off the money! It will be the only way to get their attention and put a stop to the sacking of our treasury, and our pockets!

patriotparty1 on August 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM

My understanding was that they are already abadoning the 30-year, and have dumped some. If my information is correct, who has been the buyer of the dumped 30’s? The Fed? Other countries? Billionaires? Shouldn’t the yield curve be inverting by now?

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 2:38 PM

In regards to the yield curve, an inverted yield curve is when short term rates are higher than long term rates. In a situation where demand for Treasuries softens, this drives prices down, causing a corresponding rise in yields. Since Fed funds rates are essentially zero, the yield curve is not inverting.

ICBM on August 27, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Trollkiller, I also check out zerohedge.

Granted, these types of guys could just be market shorters, but their research, and the Fed’s aversion to sunshine, makes me think otherwise.

IMO, it appears Bernanke is lying about monetizing debt. What I don’t have the skills to determine is how much debt service can the US sustain? It seems were are close to our credit limit, and falling GDP will only make it worse.

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 3:48 PM

In regards to the yield curve, an inverted yield curve is when short term rates are higher than long term rates. In a situation where demand for Treasuries softens, this drives prices down, causing a corresponding rise in yields. Since Fed funds rates are essentially zero, the yield curve is not inverting.

ICBM on August 27, 2009 at 3:41 PM

If, as noted on some of the sites I referenced, the Fed is buying Treasuries from primary dealers and then selling them at a loss (if I understand the mechanism correctly) isn’t the yield less than zero?

Maybe I need to go back to school. My head hurts.

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 3:50 PM

If, as noted on some of the sites I referenced, the Fed is buying Treasuries from primary dealers and then selling them at a loss (if I understand the mechanism correctly) isn’t the yield less than zero?

Maybe I need to go back to school. My head hurts.

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Price and yields move in opposite directions. As bond prices move down, yield goes up. If the Fed is selling at a loss, that implies that they are selling them at a discount, which would cause yields to rise.

ICBM on August 27, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Ur right. My brain hurts. Argggghhh. My post about the yield curve was stupid.

I think I will spend a little more time tonight reading about monetary policy. Germany in the ’30’s and Argentina this century should provide ample examples of both right and wrong, or at least cause/effect.

riverrat10k on August 27, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Bottom line: The printing of treasuries will accelerate; hence, the monetarization of the debt will accelerate; hence, inflation will accelerate.

Professional economist friend of mine (and she’s very good) says wait till the late spring. By that time, they will not be able to hide the effects of money flooding the economy even with the slow velocity of money at present.

trollkiller on August 27, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Now my head hurts.

Good article linked from Drudge.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100000698/can-the-souffle-really-rise-again/

trollkiller on August 27, 2009 at 4:47 PM

No one is going to take you seriously if you keep calling the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act Porkulus. For the gazillionth time, the proper nickname is Shamulus, since this was the so-called “stimulus bill”. It is completely distinct from Porkzilla.

corona on August 27, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Waterloo

bluegrass on August 27, 2009 at 7:34 PM

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