Townhall article: What really happened in the Franken-Coleman recount

posted at 9:30 am on August 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

A few months ago, when the daily machinations of the Minnesota recount had everyone’s attention, Townhall Magazine approached me for an in-depth article on the subject.  The story kept getting postponed as the recount process lengthened with the various challenges, but I began talking to people on the ground for Norm Coleman’s team to find out how Franken had taken the lead during the recount phase.  After the entire process ended with Coleman’s concession, I talked with more people and wrote a lengthy report on what really happened and how Al Franken won the election recount.

That story appears in this month’s Townhall Magazine, which should be arriving shortly for those who already subscribe.  It’s not available on line, but here’s a taste of my report:

The Franken team had a clear mission. Since they were behind in votes, they needed to either find new Franken votes or discredit Coleman votes in order to close the gap. Learning from the Gregoire campaign, they trained their volunteers to understand the limits of Minnesota law and to aggressively challenge ballots.

Coleman’s team, on the other hand, had a much more delicate mission, as they explained to their volunteers. Each of the precinct workers interviewed for this story had the same description of the instructions given by the campaign: Do not get overly aggressive in challenging ballots. They did not want to be seen as the campaign that “disenfranchised” Minnesota voters, as successful ballot challenges do by removing ballots from the count.

One Coleman volunteer explained the instruction as an explicit message from Team Coleman that “we don’t expect to be in the business of suppressing Franken votes, and we’re not trying to find new Coleman votes. … Don’t go out of your way to make what we think will be frivolous challenges.”

This instruction came specifically about overvotes, where a voter filled in two or more bubbles on the same race, which would have led the counting machines to reject the ballot for that race. Franken’s team latched onto the overvotes and tried to argue on as many as possible that the intent of the voter was to support Franken. Coleman’s team knew from the beginning that Franken’s volunteers would use that strategy, another Coleman recount worker said, but that “we should not engage them like that.”

But according to Minnesota law, as the state discovered during the process, the question of voter intent on overvotes is a legitimate area of challenge in a recount. In this case, it appears that both campaigns understood the parameters of action, but Coleman’s team simply didn’t want to avail itself of the entire range of action allowed by Minnesota statutes. They trained their recount volunteers to engage only on the most obvious cases and to refrain especially from giving the appearance that the Republicans wanted to invalidate ballots on a massive scale.

Predictably, this led to many missed opportunities for Coleman challenges. Because of the training received, the GOP volunteers assumed that many of the Franken team’s challenges in the precincts were invalid and would be tossed out by the Canvassing Board, the bipartisan panel that ruled on each challenged ballot. They were shocked to see the types of challenges later upheld by the panel, and they lamented the passive manner of the Coleman team’s recount effort, especially in the opening days. One volunteer estimated that he could have produced between 10-20 ballot challenges himself that the Canvassing Board would have upheld, based on their later rulings.

Franken’s team didn’t rest on its organizational edge during the recount, either. They gathered information from all the precinct recounts, even using tally sheets to note trends on questionable ballots, and apparently analyzed them overnight. Coleman volunteers recall seeing coordinated efforts to focus on new issues almost every day from their counterparts during the process.

None of the people involved, most of them GOP partisans, believed that Franken “stole” the recount or did anything illegal. All of them insisted that the difference came down to two different approaches.  Team Coleman wanted a collegial, Minnesota-style approach, while Franken’s team saw this as an adversarial process that pushed both teams to use every legal advantage available for each client.  Put more simply, Coleman got outboxed, and badly, especially in the early days of the recount.

That’s a lesson Republicans need to learn.  Gone are the days when Congressional and especially Senate recounts will get conducted as a collegial effort between two candidates who want to act as referees as well as litigants.  Both sides had better be prepared for a process that looks a lot more like a lawsuit — or maybe a divorce — than anything else.  That includes preparation for a recount in races that look close months before the election.  Franken did all of these things, which is the reason he’s sitting in the Senate now.

Be sure to get your copy of Townhall Magazine soon, and read it all.

Note: When you do get your copy of it, you will notice this headline on the cover: “How Did This Happen? Al Franken and the Democrats Stole the Election as the GOP Stood By, by Ed Morrissey.”  I didn’t write that headline, and that’s not what the article says.  I argue the opposite and advise in the article that the “stolen” meme will prevent Republicans from learning the lessons of the Minnesota recount, so I think the headline was an unfortunate choice.

Update: I don’t mean to make this as critical of Norm Coleman as it sounds.  I think one  commenter put it best by saying that Coleman acted in the spirit of the law while Franken acted to the letter of the law.  It’s hard to criticize the former approach, but one has to recognize when the opposition will use the latter approach and adjust accordingly.  There’s a lot more in the article, so be sure to get your hands on a copy.

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When a vote is that close, taking a collegial attitude is foolish.

Coleman didn’t stay on top of the situation.

AnninCA on August 26, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Coleman was kind of a weak moron, and allowed this to happen. He should have been attacking Franken day in and day out. Instead, he “nice-guyed” it, and look at the results.
The RNC was clueless, as usual. That is all about to change.

TexasJew on August 26, 2009 at 9:34 AM

What Minnesota needs more than anything is some sort of instant runoff system. A simple Round Two with no Dean Barkley would have cleared things up.

Siobhan on August 26, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Sounds like John McCain may have advised the Coleman folks in how to lose the recount. After all, Obama is a good man…So apparently Fraken must be as well…

golfer1 on August 26, 2009 at 9:36 AM

The contrasting approaches appear to be symptomatic of many of the more squishy GOP Senators versus the hard-left Democratic Senators. Very few if any Republicans would dream of doing to a judicial nominee what the late Senator Kennedy and other “Lions” did to Judge Bork. As Jon Z said on TEMS yesterday, the GOP brings butterknives to a gunfight.

clorensen on August 26, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Team Coleman wanted a collegial, Minnesota-style approach, while Franken’s team saw this as an adversarial process that pushed both teams to use every legal advantage available for each client.

If Coleman is this stupid, then he deserved to lose.

faraway on August 26, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Both sides had better be prepared for a process that looks a lot more like a lawsuit — or maybe a divorce — than anything else. That includes preparation for a recount in races that look close months before the election. Franken did all of these things, which is the reason he’s sitting in the Senate now.

Along the same lines, Minnesota and probably most states need to review their recount process and procedures and probably change the laws to reflect the reality. That it took months to resolve the Franken-Coleman recount is a mark of shame on the entire state.

highhopes on August 26, 2009 at 9:38 AM

I’m happy Franken got the job.

The more, the merrier.
I am enjoying the light shining in on these cockroaches.

The more damage they do to America, the more people wake up and see it. I know too many people who never even cared to hear a political news story who are now downloading and reading bills, getting really into what elected officials are actually doing.
This is a Good Thing!
And it’s got Nancy Pelosi all in a twitter. ah, the fun

bridgetown on August 26, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Well the good thing is that they no longer have a filibuster proof senate anymore.

elduende on August 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Coleman played the nice guy just like McCain did and both of them lost. McCain never seriously attacked Obama or his promises even though there were hundreds of golden opportunities. Republicans need to learn that lesson on the national and local election campaign level, not just on recounts.

Johnnyreb on August 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM

For all the Democrats’ whining about how Republicans are “mean” and “hyperpartisan”, this just goes to show that they play hardball too. Playing nice doesn’t help you anymore.

rbj on August 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM

If Coleman is this stupid, then he deserved to lose.

faraway on August 26, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Hammer.Nail.Head.

paragon27x on August 26, 2009 at 9:44 AM

That includes preparation for a recount in races that look close months before the election.

Are the Black Panthers bipartisan?

VibrioCocci on August 26, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Conservatives want someone who will fight for what they believe. It appears that Coleman is NOT a Conservative. If he won’t fight for his own team, Minnesota is probably better off getting him out of politics, however that may happen. Mr. Smalley will be a one term Senator and that will be the end of him, if Minnesota’s GOP can find a true Conservative to run against him….Mr. Morrissey?

PappaMac on August 26, 2009 at 9:45 AM

The GOP once again demonstrates their ineptitude as politicians. It’s a wonder that any of them ever get elected!
What do we have to do to get through to them that the dems don’t play by the rules and being nice doesn’t work. Apparently we need a new breed of GOPers or maybe a third party that actually wants to win.

flytier on August 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Ya know, in the odd little world I apparently live in, voters should have responsibility. If they screw up their ballot, it is THEIR responsibility to have one of the volunteers help them correct it properly. That’s one of the big reasons volunteers are there….to help. If they do not follow the rules, and they do not take the time to get the screw up corrected, they forfeit their vote. Period.

Patrick S on August 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM

When did the Republican party become the party of pushovers? I mean, seriously. Maybe I’m misremembering, but it seemed like when I was younger, the Repubs were the hard asses. I think Dick Cheney and John Bolton need to run a boot camp for prospective Republican candidates.

Farmer_Joe on August 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM

McCain never seriously attacked Obama or his promises even though there were hundreds of golden opportunities. Republicans need to learn that lesson on the national and local election campaign level, not just on recounts.

Johnnyreb on August 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Face it, McCain ran on virtually the same platform as the filthy liar in the White House. There was nothing to attack because they fundamentally agreed on the issues. It was as much as an endorsement from McCain that the filthy liar had the right ideas to take the country forward.

highhopes on August 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM

“How Did This Happen? Al Franken and the Democrats Stole the Election as the GOP Stood By, by Ed Morrissey.” I didn’t write that headline, and that’s not what the article says.

nuance.

sesquipedalian on August 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM

I’m a Minnesotan and I’m still perturbed that a recount had to be conducted at all; even the idea of “Senator Al Franken” should have been dismissed starting the day he announced his intention to run.

Bishop on August 26, 2009 at 9:49 AM

What really happened is that the margin of victory was ‘found’ in an automobile trunk after the election. This was simply a case of vote fraud, that the Minnesota Supreme Court upheld on a partisan basis.

Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Thats the problem with the “take the high ground” position. In the past..when there was a smidgen of integrity remaining in people engaged in any type of contest, that was the thing to do. The Liberals and left have devolved the norm to be whatever works..lie, spread rumors, sabotage etc, and unfortunately that is the new playing field.

If conservatives don’t learn to go for the throat, then we might as well learn to be good bitches.

Itchee Dryback on August 26, 2009 at 9:50 AM

l. All of them insisted that the difference came down to two different approaches. Team Coleman wanted a collegial, Minnesota-style approach, while Franken’s team saw this as an adversarial process that pushed both teams to use every legal advantage available for each client. Put more simply, Coleman got outboxed, and badly, especially in the early days of the recount.

Isn’t this precisely an example of the same issue we face in regard to the Dems as a whole? Are we at war with our political and social enemies, or are we engaged in just the usual, healthy, democratic competition with our political brethren? Ans. We’re at war.

JiangxiDad on August 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Yawn. Another liberal “let’s hold hands” republican loses to a leftist nutjob. But, wow, did Coleman ever concede with style and class. BRAVO!

Fletch54 on August 26, 2009 at 9:53 AM

This story is a good metaphor for the entire GOP. We believe in trying to maintain civil relations with the other party. So we don’t oppose Supreme Court nominees as strongly, we look for areas of compromise, and we try to understand the opponents position, and often end up mirroring part of it.

Most of our opponents have a different view. They break people into 2 camps: those that agree with them, and those that are evil opponents of social justice. To win, they will challenge every vote, overwhelm voter registration, stuff the ballot box, undermine campaign financing rules, create social programs to buy voters, and even lie about their positions during a general election.

hawksruleva on August 26, 2009 at 9:53 AM

I think Dick Cheney and John Bolton need to run a boot camp for prospective Republican candidates.

Farmer_Joe on August 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM

I think we need another Lee Atwater.

highhopes on August 26, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Ouch, Ed. Perhaps next time you chould negotiate the right to write the headline to your work. Pretty darn frustrating to see the wrong conclusion in the biggest type with your byline beside it.

publiuspen on August 26, 2009 at 9:55 AM

This is typical “country club” Republican, well-mannered, get along ‘ol boys behavior. It’s the same losing concept exhibited by McCain, Frum, Broder, Moran, et.al. Levin is mean. Palin is stupid. Limbaugh too arroagant, etc. Screw this nice guy stuff. The left is using every tactic, above or below board, they can to enslave us in the tyranny of big brother, centralized from afar, nanny government. We need to fight as if they are about to haul us off in chains. Fight, we must, for our children and our parents. Being nice, getting along will get us more Norm Coleman results.

cdor on August 26, 2009 at 9:55 AM

The dems know that there are things above the RINOS pay grade.

Just ask John McCain. He will show you how to reach across the aisle.

I say give back their hell with plenty payback. Nothing like a good slapdown or plain ole ass whooping.

bluegrass on August 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Unfortunately nice guys finish last…

Keef Overbite on August 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Lesson: Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.

SocklessJoe on August 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM

ah. lee atwater. just the thought of him makes me feel more Republican.

kelley in virginia on August 26, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Team Coleman wanted a collegial, Minnesota-style approach, while Franken’s team saw this as an adversarial process that pushed both teams to use every legal advantage available for each client. Put more simply, Coleman got outboxed, and badly, especially in the early days of the recount.

Coleman could have maintained the collegial approach in everything he said and did in public, while directing his lawyers and recount team to fight hammer and tong for every possible vote. This was a profound strategic error.

Ed: Your analysis of this recount is must reading for all ethical conservatives engaged in campaigns against unethical leftist who place winning over everything.

Loxodonta on August 26, 2009 at 9:58 AM

There is no such thing as a fair fight. If you want to be fair or nice, quit. If you want to win, nothing stops you but your mortality.

barnone on August 26, 2009 at 9:59 AM

This typifies the Republicans of late . . . naïve wimps.

rplat on August 26, 2009 at 9:59 AM

i doubt that geo. w. bush took the collegial approach to Florida in 2000.

kelley in virginia on August 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

The GOP reminds me of WWI. Millions of men marching headlong into machine gun fire.

The world has changed, folks. The other side has machine guns.

faraway on August 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

politics is a game for grown-ups. it may have been nice in the past, but no more.

kelley in virginia on August 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

None of the people involved, most of them GOP partisans, believed that Franken “stole” the recount or did anything illegal.

How can anyone not believe the election was stolen and was illegal??? There were districts with more votes than people registered to vote. That only happens when you overstuff the ballot box.

There should be a law that looks at all registrations and any invalid registrations need to be thrown out. Then any district that shows an irregularity in voting, like 95% of registered voters voting(assuming that is odd in the district) then the vote will be reheld in that district.

jeffn21 on August 26, 2009 at 10:01 AM

If Coleman is this stupid, then he deserved to lose.

faraway on August 26, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Dude! +100

SouthernGent on August 26, 2009 at 10:01 AM

These limp ,weak,spineless Rep will never say or do anything to make the liberal media mad.This is why we need to replace all of them with true Conservatives who know this is a war and are not afraid to fight.Just look how all of these Rep congressmen praising Kennedy today.No spine to tell the truth about this low life.After all if they say anything bad about any lib. they will not be invited to all the right parties or have nice things said about them in the NYT or the Post. All of these jerks shedding tears for the likes Teddy.Who cries for the millions of murders of unborn babies.Who cries for Mary Jo who was left to drown while Teddy tried to think of a way to save his political Ass.Who cries for his wife Joan who,s life he destroy with adultery and drinking.

thmcbb on August 26, 2009 at 10:01 AM

i doubt that geo. w. bush took the collegial approach to Florida in 2000.

kelley in virginia on August 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Actually, he did. Weren’t only the Dem counties the ones under recount?

faraway on August 26, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Conservative pols need to understand the lessons to be learned aren’t taught in the country club or on the golf course.

bloviator on August 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM

I argue the opposite and advise in the article that the “stolen” meme will prevent Republicans from learning the lessons of the Minnesota recount, so I think the headline was an unfortunate choice.

Oh, yes, we must certainly never stoop so low as to accuse Democrats of doing exactly what they intended to do!

Crawford on August 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Lesson: Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.

SocklessJoe on August 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Correct, bring an M2 and an M203
(Browning 50 cal Machine gun and 40mm grenade launcher.)

barnone on August 26, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Juan McCain helped elect Franken by making it a bi-partisan effort in order to show how fair he was. Watching McCain mumble through his campaign against ZerObama reminded me of the senseless nomination of Bob Dole versus another charismatic liar/thief in Clinton. Same scenario, same result. Republicans never seem to learn from obvious mistakes.

volsense on August 26, 2009 at 10:03 AM

It seems Coleman wanted played by the spirit of the rules. Whereas Franken played by the letter of the rules

Put this in the category of “nice guys finish last”! And your right, Ed. I hope we learn our lesson

Goody2Shoes on August 26, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Coleman was always weak. He wouldn’t know if anything illegal was done or not. The court decision was a travesty.

echosyst on August 26, 2009 at 10:04 AM

I can understand the tactic taken by the Coleman team. Let the voters tell you how they voted, that’s the American way.

However in end and when it gets down to it, as far as the Demoncrates are concerned, the voters do not count they do the counting and use new math in any way they can to assure a win ethical or not.

MSGTAS on August 26, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Gone are the days when Congressional and especially Senate recounts will get conducted as a collegial effort between two candidates who want to act as referees as well as litigants.

Those days seem to have ended in 2004 during the Florida recount. Just say ‘we’ll get ‘em next time’. I mean I always thought the label for Democrats was Soft

dr_duke09 on August 26, 2009 at 10:06 AM

When you step back and look at Norm Coleman and John McCain and their wishy washy play nice in the sandbox attitudes, don’t you want to slap them on the back of the head? Nobody says we have to lie cheat and steal(part of the statists regular playbook), but we could come to the game ready to challenge and push back.

red131 on August 26, 2009 at 10:06 AM

I am genetically incapable of criticizing Coleman’s approach in this effort. Giving the benefit of doubt is always my first thought (before then resorting to my trademark viciousness), and I would have done the same thing.

But as to Ed’s point — now we know. This is how Democrats always conduct themselves, with the most aggressive posture available and an “all’s fair in love and war” zeal. Fine. We have a leftist in the the state of Washington who literally stole an election with illegal votes, and a leftist in the Senate from Minnesota who played the hardest of hardball against a soft opponent.

Don’t let it happen again. Next close election, the RNC better have trained election lawyers on-site and brawling from the opening bell. If Grandma leaves a pencil mark on her straight-ticket Dem ballot, sue.

Jaibones on August 26, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Carbon copy of Mccain campaign.If we don’t learn,we will keep repeating it.

ohiobabe on August 26, 2009 at 10:06 AM

They fight us like we should wage war on terrorism.

We fight them like they fight the war on terrorism.

Alice is in Wonderland.

davidk on August 26, 2009 at 10:07 AM

None of the people involved, most of them GOP partisans, believed that Franken “stole” the recount or did anything illegal.

Well, they are idiots then and should be barred from future service to the GOP.

Franken clearly is a Senator when he shouldn’t be.

Because of him, more bad policy will come out of Washington. And it will affect our lives.

We the people don’t deserve this and if GOP operatives continue to be poodles when it comes to these things, We the people will continue to be shafted by the corrupt and incompetent Democrat Party.

NoDonkey on August 26, 2009 at 10:07 AM

We want to win and its important to win but don’t fight too hard for it because we might look mean and obstructionist?? So pretty much they lost because they are pu$$y morons. Got it.

Zetterson on August 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM

If Minnesotans had any sense, this would never have been a close race. This shouldn’t have to be talked about. Let the blind lead the blind!

rook105 on August 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

This is not beanbag.
We need to fight like demons.
Never give an inch.

Haiku Guy on August 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Nice guys finish last. We all know that.

We had better start using everything in the arsenal to win because the other side sure does.

jukin on August 26, 2009 at 10:10 AM

If it is not close,
The wise man will tell his son,
Then they can not cheat.

Haiku Guy on August 26, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Play to win.

Alden Pyle on August 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Conservatives don’t like to get down and dirty, but if a knife-wielding crazy comes after our kids, which of us would stand by and watch him dismember our kids before our very eyes?

Al Capone was a knife-wielding crazy. He was too slick to get caught on his real claim to fame – murder and extortion. But we got him on what was by comparison a mere “technicality” – tax evasion.

Try telling the families of his victims that we were “Lilliputian” to focus on such a triviality. If that’s what it takes to bring down a killer, it would be wrong to fail to do so.

Remember that when you think that Obama’s eligibility is just a “technicality”. To lie about your eligibility is a crime – the crime of perjury. It’s the crime that has enabled Obama to do all the other illegal crap he’s foisted on this country.

If we’re able to have another election we may be able to stop the future crap he would do. But we can’t undo what he’s already done just by another election. And given the push to create a martial-law crisis, another election isn’t guaranteed either.

We may never be able to get him on murder and extortion. He’s too slick and has too many accomplices. But we just might get him on a “technicality” and save the nation. And if enough of the nation would begrudge us that justice to cause us to lose the elections (if they come) then the nation is beyond saving.

justincase on August 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM

So basically Coleman behaved like a good Republican by bending over and grabbing his ankles.

CurtZHP on August 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Those squishy Republicans known as RINOS are finally getting the picture. Or are we Conservatives finally waking up and going to take back the party? This Mr. Nice Guy thing is just about over. It’s time to stand up for the rule of law and make sure our voices are heard over RINOS and the Left. It doesn’t take bags full of money to stand up for the law or America. Contrasting ourselves to the Left and RINOS is getting easier. Just normal citizens are doing it every day.

BetseyRoss on August 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Millions of dollars from G. Soros went to Franken’s campaign. Soros had a bone to pick with Coleman because he stopped a Soros crony from an appointment to an international financial board. Soros got Franken elected to get even despite what a majority of the people of Minn. wanted.

sheriff246 on August 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Great piece, Ed.

Sounds like Coleman fought to be a moderate and a nice guy.

Nice guys finish last. Case in point–Minnesota Recount.

New Battle Cry, “Remember Minnesota”

lawyer up, yo–bring out the brass knuckles and fight to win. It appears that the Dems will hotly contest close elections and maybe even not-so-close elections. This next election season, we need to have Patriots watching every poll in VA and NJ. We need to be prepared to call BS and JDAM strikes in on these Dems who take part in these tactics.

The gun owners are going to be bringing guns to this knife fight.

ted c on August 26, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Looks like Coleman perfected the “Gentleman Loser” approach championed by McCain.

Maquis on August 26, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Isn’t this precisely an example of the same issue we face in regard to the Dems as a whole? Are we at war with our political and social enemies, or are we engaged in just the usual, healthy, democratic competition with our political brethren? Ans. We’re at war.

JiangxiDad on August 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Yes, exactly the problem. To Democrats, politics is a blood sport. To far too many Republicans it’s a gentlemen’s game where it’s not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game.

It’s like the 9/11 Commission said: They were at war with us but we weren’t at war with them.

And, just wait for 2010 when I expect all manner of shenanigans by the Dems.

TXUS on August 26, 2009 at 10:16 AM

The GOP thinks it’s fighting an opponent that has similar beliefs, just a slightly different philosophy.

Most don’t realize, or want to believe, that radical leftists have taken over the country.

faraway on August 26, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Someday the GOP will learn that the lefty’s play by a whole different world-view….”THE END JUSTIFY’S THE MEANS”.

jsunrise on August 26, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I argue the opposite and advise in the article that the “stolen” meme will prevent Republicans from learning the lessons of the Minnesota recount, so I think the headline was an unfortunate choice.

Coleman didn’t want to deal with things on that level either.

Merovign on August 26, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Coleman lost because he didn’t have the killer instinct.

(Same with radical Islam and the West.)

profitsbeard on August 26, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Coleman got outboxed, and badly, especially in the early days of the recount…

That’s a lesson Republicans need to learn.

Please explain this to John McCain and his peers.

Either it is naivete, or else they truly do not see the stark philosophical differences or the danger their ideology poses to the nation. Otherwise, they would be fighting to the death.

(Sorry if this has already been said. Window open for awhile before sending.)

Mommypundit on August 26, 2009 at 10:24 AM

“Republicans- we play nice to lose!”

drjohn on August 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Franken’s team latched onto the overvotes and tried to argue on as many as possible that the intent of the voter was to support Franken.

How can anyone conclude the intent of anyone. Why would any judge rule overvotes valid when no one can begin to understand anyone’s intent to vote one way are another?

But, hey from a person who has lived in the great state of Minnesota….I can understand this coming from their whacky jurists.

jbh45 on August 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM

i doubt that geo. w. bush took the collegial approach to Florida in 2000.

kelley in virginia on August 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

He certainly did not. The Bush team surprised the Gore team with its ruthlessness and use of every lever possible to keep it from stealing the election in Florida. All of the Federal lawsuits were filed by the Bush team and they were filed early because James Baker foresaw that the whole thing would probably end up in the Supreme Court. When they found that “smoking gun memo” to all the Democrat lawyers about challenging military ballots, they went ballistic and forced Joe Lieberman to disavow the Democrats’ efforts and make them stop. They pushed Katherine Harris to certify the results as quickly as possible to put Gore on the defensive.

One reason the Democrats have gotten so mean and clever about these elections is because they know they got outmaneuvered in Florida in 2000. Unfortunately, the Republicans seem to have learned the wrong lesson from that – apparently Norm Coleman, just like Dino Rossi in Washington, was too concerned about “appearing to be suppressing Democratic votes.” The Bush people didn’t care how much Jesse Jackson and others screamed about that.

rockmom on August 26, 2009 at 10:34 AM

The fact that the vote for that clown was even close enough to have a recount says a lot about the thinking ability of a large number of Minnesotans anyway. Regardless if he stole it or not, he should never have even come close.

Kelligan on August 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM

One other thing that really needs to be said is that these elections prove over and over again that Democrats drag ignorant people to the polls and tell them how to vote. That’s why there are so many overvotes and other kinds of messed up ballots. These voters are too stupid to fill out a simple election ballot properly. “Voter intent” in these cases means voters who intend to get the free hot lunch or lack of cigarettes or half-pint of whiskey that the Democrats hand out on Election Day.

rockmom on August 26, 2009 at 10:38 AM

This is exactly WHY the people are about to REVOLT..

GONE is the concept that both parties
are supposed to work for US…
they are supposed to obey US..
They are supposed to care about OUR country..

But they dont..

Instead democrats seem hell bent on turning the country into the USSR..

And the republicans are hell bent on selling us out
to the Hedge fund managers..

They BOth disgust me to my very core..
the only difference is at least the republicans arent
releasing the islamic head choppers into our own
neibourhoods (at least not yet)..
http://www.veteranoutrage.com

veteranoutrage on August 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Don’t let it happen again. Next close election, the RNC better have trained election lawyers on-site and brawling from the opening bell. If Grandma leaves a pencil mark on her straight-ticket Dem ballot, sue. Jaibones on August 26, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Well said, JB! I would add two points: Patriots-get your @sses out there and become poll-watchers and precinct committeemen. The opposition turns out, we go about our business. That has to change, and the time to start positioning yourself is NOW. Seoond point-we have GOT to find a way to get ALL military absentee ballots counted for every election! Assign someone in your groups to personally work this issue-it is critical. Great and timely article, Ed! We are one year out from 2010. Time to suit up and start training.

indypat on August 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Why would I get a magazine that treats its writers that way – twisting the headline into something unsaid by the author? My – how MSM of Townhall.

beatcanvas on August 26, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Like I said yesterday, Republicans don’t seem to realize that we are in counter revolution mode here and they want to reach across the aisle.
Coleman
McCain
Even Coburn (“Obama is a good friend of mine.”)

Christian Conservative on August 26, 2009 at 10:45 AM

My personal experience in attempting to volunteer for Coleman here. And a month later, it was getting worse.

Amendment X on August 26, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Why do Republicans think this “high-road” approach to campaigning works? McCain got his butt kicked by an empty suit last fall because he wouldn’t take it to Obama when it really mattered. Coleman…more of the same. Say what you will about the Bush team…but at least they knew when they were in a street fight….and acted accordingly.

As that new Coor’s commercial states….YOU PLAY TO WIN!

ScottiesRule on August 26, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Both sides had better be prepared for a process that looks a lot more like a lawsuit — or maybe a divorce — than anything else.

A lawsuit?!?

More than that, Ed. This is War.

newton on August 26, 2009 at 10:46 AM

I honestly think there must be a major coup of the GOP. Take the “gentlemen” out to pasture, and bring in the people who get things done.

newton on August 26, 2009 at 10:48 AM

In washington state
We watched constantly as each time we voted
it was immidiatly challenged by the democrats
then overturned..

We said no to a baseball stadium for 500 million
they said F-you and built it anyway
We said no to a football stadium for 400 million
they said F-you and built it anyway
We said no to the monorail (light rail)
tey said F-you and buld it anyway
We voted to try and get rid of the dammned democrats
and we had DEAD people voting in mass numbers..

then greguiore (she aint my governor).. did it again..
No the system is so corrupt no the only way to cleanse it
is either we THROW ALL of them out..
I mean EVERY one including mccain and others
and we elect all NEW non partisan representatives..

You see they are supposed to represent all of US
instead the democrats and republicans are now
Representing themselves..

they are the enemy.
They are worse than islamic terrorists..
For the Islamic Terrorists cannot destroy this nation
at least yet..

But these MORO?NS
will destroy it in 4 more months.

Look what the liberals did in 6 months.
Ran up a 2 trillion dollar bill
Started printing money faster than the germans
and THEY HIRED EVER
TAX CHEAT
LIER
ADULTER
FRAUDSTER
CHEAT
Scum bag
and perverts

these are what is running our country..
you know i personally wish the military would arrest all memebers of congress and all of their aids and then all of the senators and then the white house..

I put my trust in the US military more
thant these Frigging idiots..

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

veteranoutrage on August 26, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Hey I worked as an observer for the Republican party in the 2004 presidentl election. Since I lived in South Florida at the time I wanted to make a difference. I had out of town lawyers from boston ejected from the polling place for lack of credeitials. I also had a hatian interpreter ejected and any votes she assisted with flagged for future scrutiny. I had to laugh when no less than three lawyers got involved
for the dems and the special deputy ejected them all. One of them handed me his business card and called the out of towners carpetbaaggers. I handed him my business card with my company information and denied his request to stand in becuse he had not gone through the proper registration process like I had. We celebrated W’s victory that night at hotel ballroom in the Ft.lauderdale/Hollywood airport. Mel Martinez was there and he brought a full Mariachi band. ha ha ha I thought hmm this guy is a rino for sure!!!!

sonnyspats1 on August 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM

That’s a lesson Republicans need to learn. Gone are the days when Congressional and especially Senate recounts will get conducted as a collegial effort between two candidates who want to act as referees as well as litigants. Both sides had better be prepared for a process that looks a lot more like a lawsuit — or maybe a divorce — than anything else. That includes preparation for a recount in races that look close months before the election.

Change a couple words here or there, and there may be a lesson here for AG Holder – and a few others we could mention. When the game you’re playing has survival as the stakes, you better enjoy the view from the high road while you can – you may not make it to the end.

ManUFan on August 26, 2009 at 10:52 AM

rockmom on August 26, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Also, the Dems brought in Richard Daley to manage the Florida challenge. You *know* that election theft is in the works when a Daley gets involved. The Bush team realized they needed to play hardball in order to overcome Daley’s election-stealing experience.

Vic on August 26, 2009 at 10:52 AM

Throw Acorn and SEIU and other organized crime syndicates into the mix and I have a bad feeling about 2010.

kurtzz3 on August 26, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Those squishy Republicans known as RINOS are finally getting the picture. Or are we Conservatives finally waking up and going to take back the party? This Mr. Nice Guy thing is just about over. It’s time to stand up for the rule of law and make sure our voices are heard over RINOS and the Left. It doesn’t take bags full of money to stand up for the law or America. Contrasting ourselves to the Left and RINOS is getting easier. Just normal citizens are doing it every day.

BetseyRoss on August 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Nah, Betsy. We need to learn how to fight. And Repubs and conservatives DON’T know how to fight. Ever. Santayan commented about those who don’t learn history. Mark Twain said “History doesn’t repeat, but it sure rhymes.”

Amendment X on August 26, 2009 at 10:57 AM

That whiner Kyle Busch won last Saturday in Nascar, you know, the Democrat, because Mark Martin would not wreck him to win. Martin said Busch would not of wrecked him if the roles were reversed. The good guys always play nice and think everyone else plays the same way.

WoosterOh on August 26, 2009 at 10:57 AM

To Ed Morrissey:

Thank you for writing this report. I am a New York lawyer who was in Cleveland, Ohio the day of the election monitoring the election there as part of a Republican legal team that knows what it is doing. I thereafter watched from the sidelines the Coleman-Franken recount, despairing of what was happening. The end was predictable given how the Franken and Coleman teams went at it. It was not high-minded on the part of the Coleman team; it was stupid, stupid, stupid. So Coleman ends up only with what was a good constitutional argument in the courts, but one that can only be won in the U.S. Supreme Court; of course, Coleman continued in his “high minded” ways and quit before going to the one court where he might win. Dumb all around.

Phil Byler on August 26, 2009 at 10:57 AM

I didn’t write that headline, and that’s not what the article says. I argue the opposite and advise in the article that the “stolen” meme will prevent Republicans from learning the lessons of the Minnesota recount, so I think the headline was an unfortunate choice.

Don’t you just hate it when someone decides what you really said, and what you meant when you said what you said doesn’t matter? We’re used to Lefties doing it. Now it appears to be rubbing off on “our side”.

The Monster on August 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Both sides had better be prepared for a process that looks a lot more like a lawsuit — or maybe a divorce — than anything else.

Chicago Democrats learned this a long time ago in 1996 when Obama used the law to invalidate his competition’s petition signatures.

Barack Obama, ever the political teacher, and probably provider of some Franklin “volunteers.”

misslizzi on August 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Thuggishness is not what this great nation was founded on.
Regardless of political persuasion, all persons with an ounce of integrity unite!

Revolution.

balkanmom2 on August 26, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Should have never been that close to begin with.

kirkill on August 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM

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