Rasmussen: Only 24% support Dems going alone on ObamaCare
posted at 2:57 pm on August 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Democrats like Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer talk about using parliamentary procedures to ram ObamaCare through the Senate, but the idea has a lot less popularity than the already-struggling legislation itself. Only 24% of likely voters support the idea of a Democrat-only health-care reform bill, according to Rasmussen, while more than twice as many people believe that Democrats should change the bill to attract GOP support. Even a significant number of Democrats question the wisdom of “reconciliation” as a device:
If Democrats agree on a health care reform bill that is opposed by all Republicans in Congress, 24% of voters nationwide say the Democrats should pass that bill.
But a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 58% believe the Democrats should change the bill to win support from “a reasonable number of Republicans.” Nineteen percent (19%) are not sure what congressional Democrats should do.
Republican voters overwhelmingly think the bill should be changed, and so do 62% of those not affiliated with either major political party.
However, Democrats are more conflicted. Forty-one percent (41%) of those in the president’s party believe their legislators should pass the bill without any GOP votes, while 34% disagree and think the legislation should be changed to attract Republican support.
Those aren’t the worst numbers on this survey, either. While voters are split 47%-47% on whether Barack Obama understands the bill in Congress, there isn’t much debate on whether Congress itself understands it. Only 22% of voters think that Congress has a good or excellent understanding of it, while a whopping 73% gives them fair or poor marks. Even Democrats think Congress doesn’t comprehend it, 61%-31%, hardly a ringing vote of confidence. Independents have an even harsher judgment: only 12% believe Congress understands its own bill, while 79% give them low marks. That’s actually worse than Republicans, among whom 17% give Congress good marks.
Democrats lose just about everyone on the reconciliation question. All age demographics oppose it, most by majorities, and by more than 3-1 among 30-39 and 40-49 voters. Majorities of men and women oppose it. All income demographics oppose it, in all but the lowest income earners by a wide majority. Only the “political class” gives it strong support, which should tell Democrats that they’re really barking up a wrong tree.
It will be interesting to see how these numbers change in the next week after the release of the deficit numbers by the White House. Rasmussen will have an approval poll on ObamaCare by the end of the week. Based on what we’re seeing here, it looks like there will be plenty of erosion in Obama’s support. (h/t HA reader Geoff A)
Update: That should have been 24%, not 28%.









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Now if only if I thought that they cared about the people. They just don’t seem to care, they only want to pass it hell or high water. Future revolt be damned
Doctor Zhivago on August 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Bring it…
d1carter on August 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM
With this, the missing $2 trillion and Kennedy dying, I think this is dead till 2010, if not forever.
Chuck Schick on August 26, 2009 at 3:00 PM
But how could Americans not love the Messiah and Mrs. “This is the first time since I got my $300,000/year Hospital Community Organizer Job where I don’t have to show up for “work” Messiah. I mean The Messiah was Crowned in a Greek Temple and he is soooooooooo consistent – for example he LIES 100% of the time! I love a Messiah that never wavers……
Cinday Blackburn on August 26, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Interesting how only the people who are looking to get something for nothing approve of this atrocity. It looks like regardless of affiliation, if this is going to be financed on your back, you disapprove.
TXMomof3 on August 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM
I am beginning to think there will be no health care bill this year.
rob verdi on August 26, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Sorry to disagree, Ed, you’re not taking into account the Ted’s Dead Factor. ;-)
TXUS on August 26, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Please dear God, make them ignore these polls and force this socialist abortion on the nation.
elduende on August 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM
I think this poll affirms my perspective. (OK, so probably everyone looks at polls and does this.)
But seriously, people have commonsense.
AnninCA on August 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM
What a biased poll! I bet they didn’t even mention to the people they polled that blessed Saint Teddy was in favor of the bill.
Master Shake on August 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM
These are the same 28% who strongly approve of Obama.
behiker on August 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM
I’m still predicting this and cap-and-trade will get passed.
Never underestimate the power or persistence of a mob boss with no conscience, i.e., Obama. He’ll blackmail, bribe, break legs, and do whatever is necessary to get what he wants.
Daggett on August 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Killing the economy with Porkulus and C4C in order to save it from Cap&Tax and ObamaCare.
Lose/Win?
bloviator on August 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM
That 28% doesn’t make me feel too secure about the future of our country. These are the same people who fake hate crimes and vandalize their own headquarters to manipulate the debate.
That seems rational.
/s
Mommypundit on August 26, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Don’t go it alone Democrats, just go.
NoDonkey on August 26, 2009 at 3:07 PM
TXUS,
and he shouldn’t. Opposition to this bill is based on rational concerns coupled with distrust of Obama. The deification of Kennedy doesn’t change that.
rob verdi on August 26, 2009 at 3:07 PM
I can’t help but compare the modern democratic politicians with the Legislaturalist period of the Republic of Haven. David Weber has made a point of social commentary, but he seems eerily close to the mark here.
caldfyr on August 26, 2009 at 3:08 PM
SHep Smith was saying the Republicans using reconcilliation for the Bush Tax cuts is not different than the Dems using it to Socialize the United States of America.
What an idiot.
Elizabetty on August 26, 2009 at 3:08 PM
I’m 100% with you. None of this crap is dead by a long shot. It will all pass in the middle of the night.
Knucklehead on August 26, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Wait 22% of people think congress understand the bill, but 28% think they should pass it alone.
Wow.
lorien1973 on August 26, 2009 at 3:08 PM
I believe that most Americans don’t support any legislation that only passes by such a blatantly undemocratic method.
The real question here is whether or not Democrats think public opinon matters. I have my doubts.
highhopes on August 26, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Remember the first time Rasmussen had Obama either go negative passion index or negative approval, some lefty troll proclaimed that he’d never go to Bush level disapproval (which incidentally took 7 years of slander/lies/lack of pushback…
I think Obama could be flirting with 28% approval by Christmas…
Rogue on August 26, 2009 at 3:09 PM
exactly.
elduende on August 26, 2009 at 3:09 PM
My opinion is that the Kennedy factor is nothing more than an emotional knee-jerk that will have a short shelf-life. If the issue was a lot closer to a consensus, it could have an effect.
ICBM on August 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Consider the source. Smith is a far-left whiner who should be on MSNBC. I lost all respect for him after his biased reporting during the Hurricane Katrina aftermath.
highhopes on August 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM
I am in this camp as well … It’s time for a cash for congressional clunkers sale. Both parties.
Does anybody with a working brain think these deficits are sustainable?
tarpon on August 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Cash for Criminals!
lorien1973 on August 26, 2009 at 3:11 PM
I don’t it will even be a factor. His death was not sudden or unexpected. Any sympathy has already been factored into the equation with, perhaps, a slight bump from sheeple who watch the love-fest over the next week but that will be offset by the continued erosion of the filthy liar’s numbers.
highhopes on August 26, 2009 at 3:12 PM
If anything, the Swimmer’s death will only have a Wellstonian-plus level backlash.
Rogue on August 26, 2009 at 3:13 PM
They will implode this country if we don’t stop them. Both parties. The remedy is vote this current crop of criminals out and pass term limits.
elduende on August 26, 2009 at 3:13 PM
I disagree. Mob bosses have to work their way up. You don’t get handed the title of mob boss. You have to best other bloodthirsty, amoral, violent criminals.
Whereas Barry was handed his position. He’s never broken a sweat in anything in his life. Not because he makes it looks easy, but because he’s never accomplished anything much.
He’s a lazyass and will give up in tears, as long as we keep the pressure on.
NoDonkey on August 26, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Of course not but what gets me is that they just shrug and keep spending instead of explaining how they are going to fix the problem. It’s like a kid who thinks they can’t possibly be out of money since they still have checks.
highhopes on August 26, 2009 at 3:14 PM
<a href=”The babies born in hospital corridors: Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets “>Abort socialism. Socialized health care threatens the life of the mother and the baby, effective punishment for having failed to abort.
maverick muse on August 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM
I guess that’s where my $8K New Homebuyer “refund” went… the checks have slowed down considerably from what I understand.
mankai on August 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Even worse, its like a gambler in Vegas starting out with $1000, losing it – getting aother $1000, losing, getting a $2000 marker, losing it, etc.etc.
But hey, the steak dinner was comped…
Odie1941 on August 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM
I hope you’re right.
Daggett on August 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM
That tells me more about the political class than it does about the democrats. I think if the political class supports it, then they have a remote shot at passing it. Nobody else counts, apparently, unless we scare enough reps to bail on it.
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Teddy, the premature ejaculator
maverick muse on August 26, 2009 at 3:20 PM
I agree. It’s just going to be boring for a bit while the punditry class milks the topic.
AnninCA on August 26, 2009 at 3:20 PM
When I had my first daughter in Dallas, at Parkland, their were several women giving birth in labor areas without a room. I had to call for a ride home with my newborn at 9:00 at night because they needed my room because of shortage. It happens here too.
TXMomof3 on August 26, 2009 at 3:20 PM
BLUE STATES – TIME TO RECALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN
lawtwin on August 26, 2009 at 3:21 PM
The fact is that Obama won the election. So that’s that. Every president gets their shot.
And everyone who doesn’t like that perspective gets to mount disagreement and stir up trouble.
That’s the deal.
AnninCA on August 26, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Please Note:
This poll was taken BEFORE Teddy died. No doubt, that 28% is now more like 82%. It’s his legacy afterall.
gatorboy on August 26, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Bury the crap-n-tax and Obummercare with Teddy.
farright on August 26, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Actual Deficit? Nine Trillion? Nope. Try $14.4 Trillion.
Over ten years. Hey, that’s just 1.44 trillion per year. Practically chump change.
—Ace
maverick muse on August 26, 2009 at 3:23 PM
<blockquoteHe’ll blackmail
Daggett on August 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Racist!
jimmy2shoes on August 26, 2009 at 3:24 PM
I apologize.
He’ll “mail of color.”
Daggett on August 26, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Then please don’t harp on it when we mount disagreement and stir up trouble. Thank you.
jimmy2shoes on August 26, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Keep working at it, you’ll get that A+ in Politically Correct Horse Crap and You in no time!
jimmy2shoes on August 26, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Don’t you mean he’ll femail of color?
lawtwin on August 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Harp? I ignore the far-right remarks, which are frankly in la-la land to me, as much as I ignore the far-left remarks.
Flip sides. Same coin.
AnninCA on August 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM
“Only 22% of voters think that Congress has a good or excellent understanding of it…” On the dem side we know about half of the legislators are lying about it so we can assume at least that number understands it.
DanMan on August 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM
I stopped watching Shep long ago. Well, if the GOP used reconcilliation to lower taxes, I wonder if his party (Democrat) will have the guts to use the same tactic to raise them.
You are right, he is an idiot.
ConservativeTony on August 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM
The GOP has a plan of its own. Maybe they should offer up their plan and see how many blue dogs they can attract, rather than the other way around.
This is touchy here it really. I hate this bill. I think it will end America has we know it. I really do. I think Obama is trying to dismantle the whole damn country. But I also think the Democrats have the votes, and they have the White House..so if the leadership can blackmail and bully enough people in their own party they will get this thing through. When I think about that, I wonder if Republicans should work harder to come up with some alternative to give those blue dogs some cover so that the votes will not be there. But then there are some people that think the GOP should do nothing at all and just let the Democrats twist in the wind.
I honestly do not know what the answer is. I just wish people like Pelosi and Reid and Obama would go away.
Terrye on August 26, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Parrot.
FIFI
Fixed it for it.
Loxodonta on August 26, 2009 at 3:38 PM
I have a hard time believing that 28% figure. This is the same congress that hovered at 14% approval ratings less than a year ago. And now we’re expected to believe that they’ve accumulated more wisdom and ability after the Porkulus, SCHIP and Crap-and-Trade?
I doubt there’s 28% of Americans who STILL don’t regret handing the reigns over to these incompetents.
Khorum on August 26, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Do it. Nuclear option. Do it. The House will flip next year. GUARANTEED. Then Rep. can spend the entire year reading parts of the bill and disseminating what they will mean in 2013 b/c the p*ssies didn’t have enough guts to enact in 2011. Then we will have a groundswell to repeal it. All of it. People will NOT forget this.
JAM on August 26, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Shep ignores the fact that the whole point of reconciliation was supposed to be about dealing with budget issues..tax policy is a budget issue.
I lost all patience with Shep after the Katrina coverage he screamed his way through. What a drama queen he is.
Terrye on August 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Sorry for changing the subject but wanted to to tell you that Glen Beck this week is giving lots of sobering information on the Obama administration that will make the hair stand up on your neck. It’s every night this week. Please don’t miss it, and tell every one you know to watch. He had planned to do this week’s shows after the 9/12 march, but he said he couldn’t wait. Folks, it is chilling what is happening. He said we’ve got to put a cog in it before it is too late. Spread the word!
silvernana on August 26, 2009 at 3:43 PM
I can’t. Due to the wonder of Hope and Change, I don’t have any coins laying around to flip.
jimmy2shoes on August 26, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Also, Rush is on his show tonight to discuss the Fairness Doctrine.
silvernana on August 26, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Cash for illegal immigrants! Pay legal immigtants $500. each for every illegal they turn in. Perfect.
saiga on August 26, 2009 at 3:55 PM
Yeah, he makes a big deal about coming from Mississippi, a Southerner, etc., but having a lot of friends and family there and next door in Alabama, well, I’d have to say… he’s gone and done got all New Yorked up. He probably gets manicures and has highlights put in his hair, too. Who knows, maybe even waxes, for God’s sake.
Drama QUEEN may not be too far off.
TXUS on August 26, 2009 at 3:58 PM
There, FIFY
Shep, a metrosexual drama queen. Fitting.
ConservativeTony on August 26, 2009 at 4:04 PM
TXUS:
Yep. Queen being the operative word.
Terrye on August 26, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Not even an Obama two-headed wooden nickel?
Legal tender in all 57 states.
NoDonkey on August 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Of course they understand the damn bill. They really don’t have to read the slimy lawyer gobbledygook in there to know exactly what it’s about.
These clowns know what’s in everything and that the various legislations are or aren’t going to pass in advance. They shmooz over Rob Roys and martinis and learn what’s in the bills without having to go to the trouble of reading it…that would be way too boring for these movers and shakers anyway, if not just downright beneath them.
The point is whether or not they care what’s in these bills and how it actually affects the country.
Dr. ZhivBlago on August 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Wait, more people think it should be shoved through than think congress understands it?
I want to meet one of that 2% who thinks congress should ram through a bill illegally that they don’t understand.
Seriously folks, these people are brain dead.
jhffmn on August 26, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Based on the responses to your comment, I see we have a “Dump Shep” fan club! I turn the sound down for the hour he is on–works for me!
lovingmyUSA on August 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Only 24% of people support the Dems going alone,but if they do,how many of them will get voted out?My guess–darn few.
The Democrap voters are so indoctrinated to vote “party first”,that they would rather die than admit that their candidates are worse than worthless.Because(and I’ve actually heard this from Dems)”at least he is not a Republican.”No matter what the Dems in Congress or the Senate do,their brain-washed constituents will always make excuses and re-elect them.
DDT on August 26, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Addendum:Don’t count Specter out.
DDT on August 26, 2009 at 7:13 PM
I double dog dare them.
These cRATs wouldn’t know the pulse of this country if someone slapped them with it.
In the words of my 4yrs daughter(Reagan), “DemocRATs, they’re not too bright”.
mmcnamer1 on August 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Isn’t this part of the “hope and change” that people voted for? I know damn well Dear Leader didn’t get voted in with the poll numbers he’s getting now.
Thanks, a__holes.
Dr. ZhivBlago on August 26, 2009 at 9:11 PM
I don’t want it changed and passed with “reasonable” Republican support. I want it defeated. Period.
SukieTawdry on August 26, 2009 at 10:10 PM