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	<title>Comments on: Next up: the Cash for Clunkers hangover</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Surprise: Demand for new cars collapses after Cash for Clunkers ends</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Surprise: Demand for new cars collapses after Cash for Clunkers ends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] predicted, the &#8220;hangover&#8221; is upon us. Here&#8217;s the glorious result of dangling $3 billion in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hard Starboard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/25/next-up-the-cash-for-clunkers-hangover/comment-page-3/#comment-2639692</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Starboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 03:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Clunker Itself...&lt;/strong&gt;

I must be the only rightospheric denizen not to have posted even once about the infamous &quot;cash for clunkers&quot; program.&#160; Which is, as I briefly remarked on a recent episode of Hard Starboard Radio, would never have been the case......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A Clunker Itself&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I must be the only rightospheric denizen not to have posted even once about the infamous &#8220;cash for clunkers&#8221; program.&nbsp; Which is, as I briefly remarked on a recent episode of Hard Starboard Radio, would never have been the case&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quality Weenie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/25/next-up-the-cash-for-clunkers-hangover/comment-page-3/#comment-2622965</link>
		<dc:creator>Quality Weenie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cash for Clunkers will not create one job at auto manufacturers.

The lines are running super slow right now, to increase production all they will do is speed the line up a bit. They will not be hiring new people to build cars.

Auto manufacturers rarely hire people for the line, they speed up and slow down the line according to demand. You can&#039;t put new people on the line where there is no space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash for Clunkers will not create one job at auto manufacturers.</p>
<p>The lines are running super slow right now, to increase production all they will do is speed the line up a bit. They will not be hiring new people to build cars.</p>
<p>Auto manufacturers rarely hire people for the line, they speed up and slow down the line according to demand. You can&#8217;t put new people on the line where there is no space.</p>
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		<title>By: dominigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dominigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Comrades. Glenn Beck has blown up the world.

faraway on August 25, 2009 at 5:59 PM &lt;/blockquote&gt;

ROFL!  I just saw a poll circulating on Facebook last night titled &quot;Boycott Glenn Beck Poll&quot;.  The poll asked whether you would boycott him, or whether you supported him.

At last count rough 6,100 wanted to boycott Glenn Beck... but 24,000+ said &quot;No, I support Glenn Beck!&quot;  71% support Glenn Beck on a poll setup to smear him!

I got a good laugh as I added my vote...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Comrades. Glenn Beck has blown up the world.</p>
<p>faraway on August 25, 2009 at 5:59 PM </p></blockquote>
<p>ROFL!  I just saw a poll circulating on Facebook last night titled &#8220;Boycott Glenn Beck Poll&#8221;.  The poll asked whether you would boycott him, or whether you supported him.</p>
<p>At last count rough 6,100 wanted to boycott Glenn Beck&#8230; but 24,000+ said &#8220;No, I support Glenn Beck!&#8221;  71% support Glenn Beck on a poll setup to smear him!</p>
<p>I got a good laugh as I added my vote&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkTheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also a lie to claim that Bush did nothing to try and prevent the problem.

He did try to toughen the regulations, but the Democrats blocked him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also a lie to claim that Bush did nothing to try and prevent the problem.</p>
<p>He did try to toughen the regulations, but the Democrats blocked him.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/25/next-up-the-cash-for-clunkers-hangover/comment-page-3/#comment-2621741</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkTheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You usually need some sort of an intellectual high ground to make those type of statements…

crr6 on August 25, 2009 at 6:14 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She has it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You usually need some sort of an intellectual high ground to make those type of statements…</p>
<p>crr6 on August 25, 2009 at 6:14 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>She has it.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/25/next-up-the-cash-for-clunkers-hangover/comment-page-3/#comment-2621730</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkTheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;OBAMA LIES!

crr6 on August 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When did you finally catch on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>OBAMA LIES!</p>
<p>crr6 on August 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>When did you finally catch on?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkTheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many of the people who got their $4500 subsidy, set aside money to pay the taxes on it.  That money is considered income by the IRS.  That&#039;s more than enough so that someone who normally doesn&#039;t pay taxes (I mean $0 in taxes, not &quot;didn&#039;t get a refund this year&quot;.) into owing several hundred this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of the people who got their $4500 subsidy, set aside money to pay the taxes on it.  That money is considered income by the IRS.  That&#8217;s more than enough so that someone who normally doesn&#8217;t pay taxes (I mean $0 in taxes, not &#8220;didn&#8217;t get a refund this year&#8221;.) into owing several hundred this year.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/25/next-up-the-cash-for-clunkers-hangover/comment-page-3/#comment-2621685</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkTheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many of those 42,000 jobs were created in Asia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of those 42,000 jobs were created in Asia?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkTheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$3B, at least, for at best 42,000 jobs.

That works out to almost $80,000 per job.  Did I mention that those jobs will last at most, 3 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$3B, at least, for at best 42,000 jobs.</p>
<p>That works out to almost $80,000 per job.  Did I mention that those jobs will last at most, 3 months.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkTheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Come on guys, I know you can do it. All together now…
Thank you President Obama.

crr6 on August 25, 2009 at 5:44 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks for wasting 3 billion dollars on a project that will produce no net increase in jobs, just a shift in when they are employed.

Those 42,000 new jobs will all be gone before the year is out, and be replaced by a deficit of at least 42,000 jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Come on guys, I know you can do it. All together now…<br />
Thank you President Obama.</p>
<p>crr6 on August 25, 2009 at 5:44 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for wasting 3 billion dollars on a project that will produce no net increase in jobs, just a shift in when they are employed.</p>
<p>Those 42,000 new jobs will all be gone before the year is out, and be replaced by a deficit of at least 42,000 jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Cricket624</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cricket624</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own three cars for my family.  All of them are over ten years old and qualified as clunkers.  I keep them running - there are scabs on my knuckles, but I &lt;em&gt;have &lt;/em&gt;to keep them running.

To all those who took the C4C deal: You&#039;re welcome.

To all those who worry about the used car market: don&#039;t sweat it - the repos will save it.

To all those worried about our country: me, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own three cars for my family.  All of them are over ten years old and qualified as clunkers.  I keep them running &#8211; there are scabs on my knuckles, but I <em>have </em>to keep them running.</p>
<p>To all those who took the C4C deal: You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
<p>To all those who worry about the used car market: don&#8217;t sweat it &#8211; the repos will save it.</p>
<p>To all those worried about our country: me, too.</p>
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		<title>By: b1jetmech</title>
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		<dc:creator>b1jetmech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was there. I’ve done loans since the beginning of 2003. 

mike volpe on August 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Have you done loans in the early to mid 1970&#039;s? Before there was a CRA?

Let&#039;s get this straight. The banks, through a period of time starting the CRA were forced to give loans to people who did qualify. The borrower was given a loan with little to no security up front so the bank had to carry all the risk up front in the name of the poor getting a house. The problem is, the poor are what they are because the choices they make, Not all but most.

Giving mortgages to the people with poor spending habits when they didn&#039;t deserve it to begin with was beginning and main perpetrator in our finical mess we are in now.

Government, like Carter who started the CRA with good intentions didn&#039;t see the unintended consequences down the road. Clinton gave his HUD secretary the power to go after and intimate banks into giving more loans to the people who didn&#039;t qualify.

Now ere all paying for it. Even though you have been giving loans since 2003, history didn&#039;t start then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there. I’ve done loans since the beginning of 2003. </p>
<p>mike volpe on August 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM</p>
<p>Have you done loans in the early to mid 1970&#8242;s? Before there was a CRA?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get this straight. The banks, through a period of time starting the CRA were forced to give loans to people who did qualify. The borrower was given a loan with little to no security up front so the bank had to carry all the risk up front in the name of the poor getting a house. The problem is, the poor are what they are because the choices they make, Not all but most.</p>
<p>Giving mortgages to the people with poor spending habits when they didn&#8217;t deserve it to begin with was beginning and main perpetrator in our finical mess we are in now.</p>
<p>Government, like Carter who started the CRA with good intentions didn&#8217;t see the unintended consequences down the road. Clinton gave his HUD secretary the power to go after and intimate banks into giving more loans to the people who didn&#8217;t qualify.</p>
<p>Now ere all paying for it. Even though you have been giving loans since 2003, history didn&#8217;t start then.</p>
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		<title>By: IlikedAUH2O</title>
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		<dc:creator>IlikedAUH2O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A mistake.&lt;/strong&gt;

Excuse, me you said 3% of the total market not a 3% default rate. I was giving you a break. Um...a 1.5% default rate used to be considered terminal for a bamk. So if half of the CRA deals went south, that would not be too good, would it? Make a nice down payment on the meltdown, at least. Go get a MBA to augment the social studies you love so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A mistake.</strong></p>
<p>Excuse, me you said 3% of the total market not a 3% default rate. I was giving you a break. Um&#8230;a 1.5% default rate used to be considered terminal for a bamk. So if half of the CRA deals went south, that would not be too good, would it? Make a nice down payment on the meltdown, at least. Go get a MBA to augment the social studies you love so much.</p>
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		<title>By: IlikedAUH2O</title>
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		<dc:creator>IlikedAUH2O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike volpe on August 25, 2009 at 7:48 PM

&lt;strong&gt;Dear Troll,&lt;/strong&gt;

Just check any of the postmortems on the mortgage/financial meltdown. There was a general oversight laxity. The overall design was to permit unqualified buyers to purchase the homes they wanted.  

I was using the CRA as a metonymy or a specific connoting the general. Of course, implicit was the relationship between the two as the CRA certainly had a symbolic position in the poisonous swirl of the mortgage insurance cauldron. (On general rhetorical technique: See Herbert Spencer if you are literate enough). If not, kindly  remember one of the favorite terms developed and cherished by the left, WATERGATE!!!

You guys know &lt;strong&gt;everything &lt;/strong&gt;that came to mean. And it wasn&#039;t just the DC complex. Heck, the left and the MSM made it more grand and sinister than Gulag, Pol Pot and Chappaquiddick combined. 

The use of CRA by we sane people is apt since the behavior of Fannie, Freddie, and indeed most of the subprime actors were either under the protection of, or acting for the policy goals of our beloved government. And it is clear that the goals, the insurers providing the safety net and even most of the managers had a special relationship to the Demoron party. Even the foot soldiers were liberal pawns. The Demoron party had for years used Acorn and other pressure groups to interfere in the financial market, including mortgages. 

On the other hand, it was not sound banking rules or properly underwritten loans that caused the economic mess we suffer today. It was the government meddling in economic activity for a desired social result. (Redolent of C4C?) Blaming President Bush is inaccurate. Blaming conservative ideology or standards is completely silly.  

&lt;strong&gt;But back to my earlier post. I am anticipating that the liberals (Demorons) will cite the small number of C4C repossessions compared to the total number of loans, repossesions or possibly total cars sold to reduce the waste and foolishness of C4C. When things don&#039;t work or go entirely haywire. You just did it with the 3% failure of CRA, after all. Then you always have the last refuge of scoundrels, the poor being hurt by some other evil aspect of free enterprise or, better yet, move straight to RACISM like kids move to the &quot;double dog dare&quot;. That shuts everyone up.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike volpe on August 25, 2009 at 7:48 PM</p>
<p><strong>Dear Troll,</strong></p>
<p>Just check any of the postmortems on the mortgage/financial meltdown. There was a general oversight laxity. The overall design was to permit unqualified buyers to purchase the homes they wanted.  </p>
<p>I was using the CRA as a metonymy or a specific connoting the general. Of course, implicit was the relationship between the two as the CRA certainly had a symbolic position in the poisonous swirl of the mortgage insurance cauldron. (On general rhetorical technique: See Herbert Spencer if you are literate enough). If not, kindly  remember one of the favorite terms developed and cherished by the left, WATERGATE!!!</p>
<p>You guys know <strong>everything </strong>that came to mean. And it wasn&#8217;t just the DC complex. Heck, the left and the MSM made it more grand and sinister than Gulag, Pol Pot and Chappaquiddick combined. </p>
<p>The use of CRA by we sane people is apt since the behavior of Fannie, Freddie, and indeed most of the subprime actors were either under the protection of, or acting for the policy goals of our beloved government. And it is clear that the goals, the insurers providing the safety net and even most of the managers had a special relationship to the Demoron party. Even the foot soldiers were liberal pawns. The Demoron party had for years used Acorn and other pressure groups to interfere in the financial market, including mortgages. </p>
<p>On the other hand, it was not sound banking rules or properly underwritten loans that caused the economic mess we suffer today. It was the government meddling in economic activity for a desired social result. (Redolent of C4C?) Blaming President Bush is inaccurate. Blaming conservative ideology or standards is completely silly.  </p>
<p><strong>But back to my earlier post. I am anticipating that the liberals (Demorons) will cite the small number of C4C repossessions compared to the total number of loans, repossesions or possibly total cars sold to reduce the waste and foolishness of C4C. When things don&#8217;t work or go entirely haywire. You just did it with the 3% failure of CRA, after all. Then you always have the last refuge of scoundrels, the poor being hurt by some other evil aspect of free enterprise or, better yet, move straight to RACISM like kids move to the &#8220;double dog dare&#8221;. That shuts everyone up.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: csmats</title>
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		<dc:creator>csmats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need a new car for my wife to shuttle the kids around.  Her current car missed by 1 mpg to qualify for C4C.  C4C prevented us from getting a normal, market-driven deal on an &#039;09 model when we wanted to buy one in what should have been the normal &#039;09 blowout season.  Now &#039;10 models look to be overproduced.  So we will wait for the &#039;10 models to come down to fire-sale prices and stick with our not-quite-government-approved-clunker until then.  That the Genius distorted the market to no good effect is bad enough.  Worse still is that he robbed us of $3 billion to do it.  And the absolute worst of it all is that the dealers aren&#039;t even getting paid and will probably lose even more money because of the overproduction on &#039;10 models.  So what was the freakin&#039; point?  Nice job, Genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need a new car for my wife to shuttle the kids around.  Her current car missed by 1 mpg to qualify for C4C.  C4C prevented us from getting a normal, market-driven deal on an &#8217;09 model when we wanted to buy one in what should have been the normal &#8217;09 blowout season.  Now &#8217;10 models look to be overproduced.  So we will wait for the &#8217;10 models to come down to fire-sale prices and stick with our not-quite-government-approved-clunker until then.  That the Genius distorted the market to no good effect is bad enough.  Worse still is that he robbed us of $3 billion to do it.  And the absolute worst of it all is that the dealers aren&#8217;t even getting paid and will probably lose even more money because of the overproduction on &#8217;10 models.  So what was the freakin&#8217; point?  Nice job, Genius.</p>
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		<title>By: GrannyDee</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrannyDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>08/25/2009, 8:09 p.m. 
AP is reporting, &quot;Dealers Hope for Payment as Clunkers Program Ends&quot;
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/25/dealers-hope-payment-clunkers-program-ends/
One south Florida Chrysler dealer is estimating that he&#039;s owed more than $1 million for 270 deals, but (so far) he&#039;s only  received payment for six vehicles!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>08/25/2009, 8:09 p.m.<br />
AP is reporting, &#8220;Dealers Hope for Payment as Clunkers Program Ends&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/25/dealers-hope-payment-clunkers-program-ends/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/25/dealers-hope-payment-clunkers-program-ends/</a><br />
One south Florida Chrysler dealer is estimating that he&#8217;s owed more than $1 million for 270 deals, but (so far) he&#8217;s only  received payment for six vehicles!</p>
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		<title>By: Itchee Dryback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itchee Dryback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;mike volpe on August 25, 2009 at 8:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 Not to be picky..I&#039;m just curious.
Is that 3% of value or 3% of the number of transactions. Was just &quot;property&quot; separated from housing and was that 3% individual home loans,  i.e not business loans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>mike volpe on August 25, 2009 at 8:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p> Not to be picky..I&#8217;m just curious.<br />
Is that 3% of value or 3% of the number of transactions. Was just &#8220;property&#8221; separated from housing and was that 3% individual home loans,  i.e not business loans?</p>
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		<title>By: graywaiter</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/25/next-up-the-cash-for-clunkers-hangover/comment-page-2/#comment-2620357</link>
		<dc:creator>graywaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kinda giggled when I read that people are getting upset when they realize that they&#039;re paying sales tax on that 4500.00. Guess they didn&#039;t read the fine print.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kinda giggled when I read that people are getting upset when they realize that they&#8217;re paying sales tax on that 4500.00. Guess they didn&#8217;t read the fine print.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiritk9</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/25/next-up-the-cash-for-clunkers-hangover/comment-page-2/#comment-2620187</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiritk9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More negatives than positives to that program to be sure. I thought initially it would be a good thing, but being that it&#039;s just adding another straw onto the debt camels back and not only did it NOT CREATE A SINGLE JOB (what a f&#039;kin lie that is) it only put off laying off or firing some auto workers in the plants and suppliers.

The auto companies, if they have any brains left, will not replenish the inventories to where they were, and as said, this just stole from future sales so it probably actually hurt the auto workers more in the long run.

Way to not think a damned thing through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More negatives than positives to that program to be sure. I thought initially it would be a good thing, but being that it&#8217;s just adding another straw onto the debt camels back and not only did it NOT CREATE A SINGLE JOB (what a f&#8217;kin lie that is) it only put off laying off or firing some auto workers in the plants and suppliers.</p>
<p>The auto companies, if they have any brains left, will not replenish the inventories to where they were, and as said, this just stole from future sales so it probably actually hurt the auto workers more in the long run.</p>
<p>Way to not think a damned thing through.</p>
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		<title>By: GarandFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GarandFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will that $4500 from the government be considered &#039;taxable income&#039; for those who purchased new cars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will that $4500 from the government be considered &#8216;taxable income&#8217; for those who purchased new cars?</p>
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		<title>By: GrannyDee</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrannyDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

    Come on guys, I know you can do it. All together now…
    Thank you President Obama.

    crr6 on August 25, 2009 at 5:44 PM

And exactly why would I be thanking Obama for forcing me to put up money to pay the down payment on someone else’s car? Please do explain.

jimmy2shoes on August 25, 2009 at 5:47 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

+100, Jimmy. What? Barkey Oblabla didn&#039;t give away car insurance, too? I&#039;m shocked; shocked I tell you.</description>
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<p>    Come on guys, I know you can do it. All together now…<br />
    Thank you President Obama.</p>
<p>    crr6 on August 25, 2009 at 5:44 PM</p>
<p>And exactly why would I be thanking Obama for forcing me to put up money to pay the down payment on someone else’s car? Please do explain.</p>
<p>jimmy2shoes on August 25, 2009 at 5:47 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>+100, Jimmy. What? Barkey Oblabla didn&#8217;t give away car insurance, too? I&#8217;m shocked; shocked I tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. ZhivBlago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. ZhivBlago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;m supposed to trust these guys to subsidize my new refrigerator?

Don&#039;t think so.  Totally outrageous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;m supposed to trust these guys to subsidize my new refrigerator?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think so.  Totally outrageous!</p>
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		<title>By: Meremortal</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/25/next-up-the-cash-for-clunkers-hangover/comment-page-2/#comment-2619838</link>
		<dc:creator>Meremortal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dealers made out like bandits on this program. They inflated prices by $3500 to $4500. The consumer ended up paying the same with or without the rebate and the dealers (assuming they actually get paid) will be laughing all the way to the bank.

angryed on August 25, 2009 at 6:25 PM
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I have a friend who is a GM at a dealership. He says they sold every clunker deal at full retail price, and didn&#039;t pay any factory incentives that were available on some models. He also says there will be a LOT of repos coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dealers made out like bandits on this program. They inflated prices by $3500 to $4500. The consumer ended up paying the same with or without the rebate and the dealers (assuming they actually get paid) will be laughing all the way to the bank.</p>
<p>angryed on August 25, 2009 at 6:25 PM<br />
&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>I have a friend who is a GM at a dealership. He says they sold every clunker deal at full retail price, and didn&#8217;t pay any factory incentives that were available on some models. He also says there will be a LOT of repos coming.</p>
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		<title>By: CaveatEmpty</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaveatEmpty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The dealers made out like bandits on this program. They inflated prices by $3500 to $4500.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Didn&#039;t need to -- the suckers paid STICKER PRICE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The dealers made out like bandits on this program. They inflated prices by $3500 to $4500.</p></blockquote>
<p>Didn&#8217;t need to &#8212; the suckers paid STICKER PRICE.</p>
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