McCain: You might be seeing the beginning of a peaceful revolt in America
posted at 3:42 pm on August 25, 2009 by Allahpundit
Via Greg Hengler. I hear this rhetoric a lot from Glenn Beck fans and have no idea what it means in practice. A third party? Good luck with that. Returning the GOP to power? Okay, but if the “revolt” is about fiscal conservatism, you may not like what you get on, oh, say, Medicare. Some sort of constitutional change, per the public’s collapsing trust in Congress’s basic competence? Exactly what would that entail? As I recall, an awful lot of conservatives were energized during the amnesty battle two years ago too, choking congressional switchboards for weeks with angry phone calls. How’d that “revolt” work out at the ballot box last year?
That’s the first clip. The second clip, also via Hengler, is self-explanatory. Incidentally, note how many senior citizens are in the audience and then check out the table Jay Cost just posted. If the Democrats aren’t worried about the midterms, they should be.
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Oh, dry your eyes, school marm. Everyone has a right to their opinion, including you. Want unicorns and skittles, go to the WH. We had a choice of Dummy One and Dummy Two with Mrs. Palin because of our primary system….We need a super duper Tuesday where we ALL vote so idiots in Iowa, NH, SC, and FL don’t make our choice for us.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Speaking of blowback HornetSting, my dad and everyone of his brothers served, and one of them came back crippled. My Dad got sick years later because of something he exposed to. He died in a VA hospital in Oklahoma City. How is that for blowback?
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:22 PM
This is just so much …
pabarge on August 25, 2009 at 7:22 PM
HornetSting:
That is the same primary system that gave you Ronald Reagan.
That is just an excuse, that is all that is.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Lady, you need some help. Blowback, stay off my back and you won’t need to pull up your family tree.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 7:23 PM
I had a choice of McCain or Paul….how’s that for choice? Fat, stupid, and lazy-our electorate. That’s another reason….keep up the faith, Terrye.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Terrye, I watched in horror as Florida jumped on the McCain nomination bandwagon in 2008, putting him safely over the threshold. I could not believe the tragedy unfolding, knowing this turncoat was going to give the election to Rico Suave.
What can I do? Read how to invest in stocks that will survive this dark time. No Republican can rescue us now… only make the future less terrible, maybe rescind some of Obama’s criminal legislation.
leftnomore on August 25, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Obviously you are one of those “functionally retarded” people Jeanne Gawdawfulho was talking about.
If Obama and his people can tell the MSM that his children are off limits then McCain should have said the same thing.
Grown woman or not is NOT the point here. Clearly you have no concept of the word chivalry. The thing that I don’t understand is why you feel the need to defend John McCain against my opinion of him but on the other hand feel that he had no responsibility to defend her and her Children against the MSM opinion of them. He may have said once or twice that he felt she was a good person and qualified for the job but, he never stood up and condemed the people who were saying that Trig was Bristol’s baby and if he was her biological child she should have aborted him. So now I can add “Nutless Wonder” to my list of adjectives I will use to describe him.
milwife88 on August 25, 2009 at 7:25 PM
My family tree? It seems to me that you mentioned your Dad being sick.
This is absurd.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM
They’re a club. They lunch together. They travel together. They work together. They party together.
Take good old Teddy Kennedy as an example. Here’s ol Teddy, drunk, drives his car with a female passenger in it over a bridge. Runs off, leaving the girl to drown. Never says a thing to anyone for what,, 24 hours or more?? Whatever it was. The life of a young girl for the sake of political ambition.
Now,, the average American is pretty decent. They would never think of sitting down to a table and joking with a guy like that. Or going out to a luncheon or calling that kind of person respectable. But McCain and Kennedy worked together on the amnesty thing. They probably consider each other good friends.
I am sure if you asked McCain, he would say Senator Kennedy deserves our respect. That he’s a great Senator. But if ol Teddy lived in your neighborhood and wasn’t a Senator,, I doubt he’d have a friend on the block. Only in the US Senate can thieves. liars and traitors be treated with more respect than Americans who protected our homeland from terrorist attacks.
They do not view themselves the way we view them. McCain doesn’t see Kennedy, Hillary or Chuckie Schumer the way the average American does. There are no liars or Fascists in the Senate. No,, there are only fellow Senators, comrades and good friends that McCain has political disagreements with.
And the icing on the cake is,, nothing they pass will really effect any of them anyway,, or so they think. It only effects all of us.
JellyToast on August 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM
I was talking about what MY parents taught me, since you wanted to give me your upbringing story…..
You’re continued McCain love is absurd.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 7:28 PM
I’m done running this thread, but Milwife, YOU SAID IT.
leftnomore on August 25, 2009 at 7:28 PM
milwife:
I am not retarded enough to think that anything John McCain did or did not say was going to keep the msm from targeting his running mate. BTW, nothing the press said was going to be as hard as dealing with the job of being President.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:29 PM
HornetSting:
Oh yes. I have two speeds, love and mindless name calling hatred. There can be nothing in between.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:30 PM
That is because Moderate is the wrong word for most of us, centrist is a better word. I stand by my beliefs, they just dont always line up with the TC’s.
Squid Shark on August 25, 2009 at 7:31 PM
leftnomore:
Conservatives can try to find and support more conservative people who are intelligent, well spoken and charismatic. But guess what, they will not just magically appear on the ballot.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:31 PM
I see what you mean. Classy.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Yikes. Are there no Repubicans under 50 in Arizona? No wonder they keep nominating McCain.
Speedwagon82 on August 25, 2009 at 7:33 PM
This one deserves repeating– thank you for standing up against the sham that is McCain, and his various excusers in the Senate. McCain wanted to capitalize on amnesty, hoping to split the Mexi credit with Kennedy. What a couple of political opportunists.
And don’t forget Michael Medved’s role in getting McCain over the hump. Just another opportunist.
leftnomore on August 25, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Goldwater’s Arizona RIP…
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Hornet Sting:
I thought that was classy too. And made my point. That being that you say I feel McCainlove, not because I actually love the man, but because I do not hate him with a white hot passion, nor do I feel comfortable calling him a bunch of names.
That seems to be your position.
I myself would say that sometimes I agree with McCain and sometimes I do not. I think he loves his country, but I also think he is too trusting at times of the people he deals with day to day in the Senate. I think it would be good to have more conservative people in the Senate, more conservative than McCain in fact…but I don’t see conservatives working all that hard to make it happen.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:35 PM
BTW, nothing the press said was going to be as hard as dealing with the job of being President.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:29 PM
I am sure that being president is a difficult job. Your guy is on the TV sometime twice a day bitching about how hard it is to be The One. But, no worries, I think he is a puss too.
milwife88 on August 25, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Well, you’ve made your bed. Enjoy it.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 7:37 PM
BTW, nothing the press said was going to be as hard as dealing with the job of being President.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:29 PM
I’m sure being president is a difficult job. Your guy is on the TV sometimes twice a day bitching about how hard it is to be The One. But, no worries, I think he is a puss too.
milwife88 on August 25, 2009 at 7:39 PM
HornetSting:
No, I have not made any bed. If conservatives can replace McCain, more power to them. I never said otherwise.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:39 PM
He treated his first wife atrociously too. My, my. An officer and a gentleman.
He should shut up, go away, and take Tubby with him.
SagebrushPuppet on August 25, 2009 at 7:39 PM
All I remember from McCain in 2008 was how he kept screaming at us to “Stand and Fight With Me!”
Well, John, we did stand and we did fight. We watched as Sarah fought valiantly, and we watched her get reined in for it. We watched as you continually rolled over and acquiesced your dignity and the “fight” all in the name of “reaching out” to the other side so you would be liked.
We saw who the real fighter was in ’08 and we choose to continue the fight with her these next 3 years – not with you.
yogi41 on August 25, 2009 at 7:39 PM
+1, megadittos
Squid Shark on August 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM
leftnomore:
Did conservatives have any alternative to McCain?
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM
I was talking about your mccain like language above….lack of class will get you every time, but mccain knows that. He will feel it 2010 when JD takes his place.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 7:41 PM
HornetSting:
McCain like language?
So wishing the man dead is classy? Assuming that a person either hates or loves someone and there is nothing in between is rational?
No one is stopping conservatives from winning but themselves.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:44 PM
He’s probably just referring to tea parties and town hall anger in general… It kind of is a “revolt”, although it doesn’t mean it will accomplish anything great.
But perhaps a peaceful revolt could look something like tossing out most, or a good chunk of the old blood (McCain included). So many of these SOBs have been in their for basically their entire careers and have no intention of leaving. We need term limits. One term and you go home and need to get a job and take care of yourself. Granted, that seems incredibly unlikely, but the prospect of tossing out all of the Reids, Specters, Kennedys, McCains, Franks, Dodds, etc. would be “revolt”-ish, IMO.
RightWinged on August 25, 2009 at 7:44 PM
The losing POTUS advisors ALWAYS badmouth the VP. Shrum did it to Edwards in 2004. It also didn’t help that Palin was new to national politics so they knew she had no way of getting back at them.
Speedwagon82 on August 25, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Did I wish him dead? No. Did I call him a walking corpse? Probably. But, like McCain standing by while liberals said that his running mate should have aborted her downs syndrome baby, you used retard to make your point. I have no further use for you. We will never agree.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Hey John–we already saw that last November when the voters were revolted by your campaign and voted this hapless Dem-wit!!
chickasaw42 on August 25, 2009 at 7:51 PM
HornetSting:
I did not say that you said you wished him dead, but people did and it was to those people that I was responding. You just in general hate his guts. I got that. Fine, whatever, knock yourself out.
I also did not like it when people called Palin names, I thought it was tacky too. And cruel. And McCain did not just stand by, in fact he said that never in his life had he seen anyone in national politics treated as badly as Palin.
The truth is we do agree on a lot of things. But you seem to think that unless I hate McCain as much as you do, then we will always be at odds.
Remember that when the Democrats win again.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Nah, we’d be blaming the anti-Mormon nuts who elected a liberal Agnostic.
Speedwagon82 on August 25, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Whatever makes you sleep better at night.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 7:55 PM
HorentSTing:
You know what? I think we are both the kind of people who just have to have the last word. okay.
I will say this, I am sorry if I really made you mad or anything. I did not mean to be self righteous or anything like that. If I went too far I am sorry.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 8:05 PM
And I sleep just fine.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Go away AARP and take McCain with you.
mobydutch on August 25, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Yosemite Sam won’t get another click from me.
Maquis on August 25, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Terrye, we have been down this road before….I don’t appreciate your use of the r word, but I’m sure I have been guilty as well.
Now, I believe that this is probably one of the places we will NEVER agree, but luckily, mccain will have no future in our party….we will have a fresh faced conservative with a spring in his step and an ear to his constiuents when he flies off to DC in 2011 for the meeting of the new REPUBLICAN congress. Let it be so and call it good.
We are women, we always want the last word….if a man speaks in the desert and no woman is there to hear. Is he still wrong?
We are one. We are many voices. Peace be with you, Terrye.
:)
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 8:10 PM
There’s a revolt alright. Whether it remains peaceful or not is up to the Feds and their Union thugs.
Browncoatone on August 25, 2009 at 8:15 PM
He lost because Obama is the more charismatic of those two
Democratsliberals.John only goes across the aisle when his vote will be decisive for a Dem win or when his vote doesn’t make a difference….Oops- that’s almost every issue.
Hammie on August 25, 2009 at 8:20 PM
HornetSting:
Right back at you honey.
Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 8:20 PM
“All I remember from McCain in 2008 was how he kept screaming at us to “Stand and Fight With Me!”
That’s when he took time off from shrieking like a banshee about the evil capitalists.
Its pretty bad that, when Obama was talking like a Socialist often enough that it should have been noticed, that, at times, the Republican sounded more lefwing than the real thing.
davod on August 25, 2009 at 8:21 PM
It’s a movement. We may have to lose a couple of elections to gain the ground. But if we stick to our values as independents (or a third party) eventually we will win the rest of the real conservatives and even some of the dems.
Hammie on August 25, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Medved’s a fine movie critic. And as a a political analyst, he’s a fine movie critic.
SagebrushPuppet on August 25, 2009 at 8:31 PM
I’d vote for you again if you were running against a Communist for president, Senator…but, really, just shut the hell up, please.
Dr. ZhivBlago on August 25, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Politically speaking McCain is spineless placating wimp!
MCGIRV on August 25, 2009 at 8:42 PM
I only voted for him because the alternative scared me. I’ve been watching and reading about all of the explosive spending and going crazy with fright for the future of my country. Now, what will probably be next on their agenda — If the dims give amnesty to the criminals (and they are criminals as they broke the law to get here) we may never see another conservative administration.
Hammie on August 25, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Hear! Hear!
Hammie on August 25, 2009 at 8:55 PM
MAAAVERICK!
That old coot traitor to conservatives everywhere needs to retire… and his coattail riding lil princess sweetums needs to disappear too.
SilverStar830 on August 25, 2009 at 9:03 PM
The difference beween the amnesty revolt and the revolt this time is the difference in GDP and employment numbers.
Nothing motivates an individual to fight for the freedom and sovereignty of his own governing power than to see it slip away with incompetence. Allah, while you seem to think the 3rd party idea is doomed to failure, the issue of incompetence in government is affected in both parties. As I have already posted to many time on this site, now is the time for republicans to strike, now is the time for new blood to rise to the top of the party and lead. Unfortuantely that simply has not happened, and it is due to massive incompetency in the republican party especially the leadership.
paulsur on August 25, 2009 at 9:18 PM
We all want peace. The violence is coming from Washington, not from the American people.
The American people just want to live their lives, raise their families, take vacations in the summer and live in peace with their neighbors. Nobody wants to have to go to these stupid town halls! People don’t wake up in the morning and think “Hey! I can’t wait to go down to that stupid gymnasium and wait in line for 2 hours to maybe get to ask my stinking Senator if he’s really going to vote to kill my grandmother!”
I am getting sick of this attitude that the American people are suppose to just remain quiet and respectful with our heads bowed down all while this government can pass laws regulating and taxing every freaking detail of our lives!!
Oh,, we just have to show them so so much respect!! All while they rob us blind! Now they want to have the power of life and death over us but hey,, we need to show these people respect! We need to stay peaceful!! Yes,, we do! We all want to be peaceful! But it is not the people who are at war with their government!! It is this freaking government that is at war with us!!!
JellyToast on August 25, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Peaceful?
I don’t think it’ll come to that. That is, the peaceful option went out the window when obama, pelosi, reid, and crew went foll bore into socialist fascism. We’ve skipped the peaceful option.
Now we’re filling the powder keg…it’s getting pretty packed….and playing with matches.
The difference between conservatives wanting a free America and the liberals now is that the liberals are standing around the keg picking their asses and chewing the nuggets, while everyone of sound mind is off in the blast room preparing their ammunition.
Spiritk9 on August 25, 2009 at 10:03 PM
John McWho?
iamse7en on August 25, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Tell me about it. I kinda went off on an acquaintance from the local GOP party, sending emails out to everyone, cautioning them to be respectful, and I shot back that it seems that they’re the ones who are disrespecting us, so why the hell should we take it anymore?
atheling on August 25, 2009 at 10:48 PM
You know I’ve been paying attention to national politics for 35+ years and this is the worst shape I’ve ever seen this country in.
I mean Carter ’77-’81 was horrible but at LEAST he wasn’t trying to destroy the country!!
McCain is PART OF THE PROBLEM he’s a RINO, Elitist, career politician and I beg the voters of Arizona to retire this Ring-kissing Obama lover.
I’ve watched for 35 years as the GOP (since Reagan left in ’89) has just pissed away the chance to actually lead this nation and make it stronger. Both parties don’t deserve JACK anymore. After our local primary I’m changing my voter registration to Independent. I once gave money to the GOP, and to specific GOP candidates……UNTIL I SEE REAL CONSERVATIVES, that are NOT Career politicians I will NEVER give them a dime again.
Did anyone by the way catch that disgusting ‘MCCAIN RE-ELECT’ ad on the right hand side of the postings?
THROW THEM ALL OUT….EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!!!!!
PappyD61 on August 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM
IF YOU ONLY WATCH ONE VIDEO ABOUT MCCAIN THIS IS IT
The last nail in the coffin of the McCain presidential campaign.
“You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency”
VOTERS OF ARIZONA……PLEASE I’m begging you retire him.
PappyD61 on August 25, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Guess that link/paste didn’t work. LOL.
Try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE
PappyD61 on August 25, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Wait…doesn’t it strike you funny that the President of the United States disses private citizens, a large body of protesters as evil, as Bible clingers, mobsters? Doesn’t he work for us? Is he not the worker and we are the boss? Where’s the respect?????? This President has not demonstrated any reason to have our respect.
The Repubs just don’t get it. We are in counter revolution mode here and they want to reach across the aisle!
Christian Conservative on August 26, 2009 at 1:19 AM
Haven’t read all the comments yet, but so far this is the winner, for both logic and brevity – both to be admired:
fred5678 on August 26, 2009 at 4:41 AM
I’m sure this has already been said, and probably more than once, but… the GOP offered voters “McAmnesty” as the alternative to Obama. I think a lot of anti-amnesty voters simply stayed home. Shortly after the election one expert said that afte looking closely at the numbers, 7 million conservatives stayed home compared to ’04. I bet those same votes were against amnesty. Give the votes a REAL choice and then see the turnout!
-Aslan’s Girl
Aslans Girl on August 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM
I think some people do want a compromise to stop Obamacare. I think the fear is that Republicans do not have enough votes to stop it and they do not have enough time to win enough seats to stop it…. so they are considering some watered down compromise to pass so that we are not stuck with obamacare.
I realize that some other people see this as throwing a lifeline to Obama, but not everyone else does see it that way.
People are scared. It is just ridiculous that people should have to be afraid of what their own government is going to do.
Terrye on August 26, 2009 at 7:12 AM
fred:
If McCain had told people that Obama was a scary man, do you think it would have made the slightest difference? I don’t. In fact, it would probably would have given Obama a bigger win.
The media failed to do its job.
Terrye on August 26, 2009 at 7:14 AM
I am not so sure they don’t get it. I think they are counting votes and think they can not stop Obamacare and so they want to derail it with another plan. I am not saying that is a good idea, but I think it is a mistake to just assume that these people don’t get it. The truth is the Democrats can pass this bill, crappy as it is and there is nothing any of us can do about it. Elections matter.
Terrye on August 26, 2009 at 7:17 AM
And considering the fact that Republicans have thus far refused to support public option or anything like it, I would say that Republicans are hearing them.
Terrye on August 26, 2009 at 7:18 AM
For years, a significant body of conservatives have been threatening to stay home on election day because Rinos were taking their votes for granted. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity kept encouraging them to go and vote on the argument that you have to win to be able to get your vision, and the Dems were far worse than a Rino.
I think the double whammy of Bush and McCain broke the dam that Limbaugh and Hannity had built. McCain left the primaries and went into the campaign without the Base. On election day, hundreds of thousands of conservatives did not show up in Ohio (which has gone Dem because of it’s own Rino problem)and the midwest.
I subscribe to the Limbaugh/Hannity argument, but the Rinos have not stopped beating up the Base and even more conservatives are going to be staying home from the polls if it continues.
Obama was elected because of Rino’s goring the party. 2010 and 2012 are our elections to lose – and we are perfectly capable of losing them.
Cricket624 on August 26, 2009 at 8:32 AM
I would like to ask my friends in the state of Arizona to go ahead and retire John McCain. I
la.rt.wngr on August 26, 2009 at 11:28 AM
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