Giuliani eyeballing Paterson’s seat
posted at 11:36 am on August 25, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
With Governor David Paterson’s approval ratings crashing and New Yorkers increasingly dissatisfied with the direction Democratic leadership has taken, the ground may be prepared for Rudy Giuliani’s re-entry into electoral politics. His advisers draw parallels between New York City before Giuliani’s successful terms as mayor and the state in 2009, saying that Giuliani can bring change — and competence — to Albany. Giuliani’s entry might wind up burying the incumbent, however, which might make Giuliani’s task more difficult:
Mr. Giuliani has told associates that he will decide on a candidacy within 30 to 60 days, as he weighs whether he can be elected statewide and what impact another campaign would have on his business interests.
He is already laying the groundwork. On Friday he traveled to Long Island to encourage the state Republican Party chairman, Joseph N. Mondello, to step aside, a maneuver that party insiders viewed as the former mayor’s most concrete step yet toward a run.
On Monday, Mr. Mondello announced his resignation, and Mr. Giuliani’s lieutenants were working the phones to drum up support for the replacement they prefer, the Niagara County Republican chairman, Henry F. Wojtaszek, a longtime supporter of Mr. Giuliani’s.
Democrats soured on Paterson long ago, but any party would hesitate to toss away the advantages of incumbency. If the GOP ran a lower-profile candidate like Rick Lazio or Peter King, they might stick with Paterson despite his low popularity. With Giuliani entering the fray, though, that will almost certainly push Democrats to dump the incumbent and go with the heir apparent:
His aides and other Republicans believe he could handily beat Gov. David A. Paterson; they cite any number of polls that have included hypothetical match-ups, as well as Mr. Paterson’s dismal approval numbers. Taking on Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo, who many Democrats hope will be the party’s candidate for governor in 2010, would be a more difficult test, the aides say.
In fact, rumblings about a Giuliani candidacy are already improving Mr. Cuomo’s stature among Democratic strategists, who believe he would be a far better candidate than Mr. Paterson to face Mr. Giuliani in the general election. Mr. Giuliani’s aides insist that his decision will not be influenced by Mr. Cuomo, who is not expected to decide about running for governor until next year.
Considering the deterioration of Paterson, that was a likely outcome regardless of Giuliani’s decision. In fact, the dynamic may be going in the opposite direction. There seems little doubt that, advantages of incumbency notwithstanding, New Yorkers would toss Paterson out on his ear next year in favor of either Lazio or King. The threat would be if Democrats ran Cuomo instead of Paterson. Cuomo could easily swamp Lazio or King in a statewide fight. Cuomo has already won a state-wide election, something neither Lazio or King has done.
Giuliani would counter that move for Republicans, and he seems more than interested in that fight. As one of his aides pointed out to the New York Times, people don’t get involved in state party leadership fights unless they have a vested interest in the outcome. It’s one of the least attractive aspects of politics, and only someone who needs to work at that level will volunteer to step into that morass.
Get ready for another Rudy run. If he does run against Cuomo, it should be an epic battle.









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good. He’ll be perfect for New York.
ThackerAgency on August 25, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Rascist.
First?
Elizabetty on August 25, 2009 at 11:39 AM
What do you have against black people, Rudy???
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hoosiermama on August 25, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Eyeballing being something Patterson can’t do.
Hah. If I didn’t know better I’d say Ed made a funny.
elduende on August 25, 2009 at 11:39 AM
GO RUDY!
Urban Infidel on August 25, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Or racist?
First with it spelled correctly?
Elizabetty on August 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM
And Gov. Patterson is accusing NY Dems of racism and bigotry against the disabled. Talk about poetic justice.
Like Hillary last year, I love it when flaming libs are made honorary Republicans and are treated to the vicious nastiness we get so often.
RobCon on August 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Isn’t Cuomo a Clintonista?
Rogue on August 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM
“Eyeballing” Ed?
LOL!
Knucklehead on August 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM
this is our moment to finally destroy these democrat phonies!
moonbatkiller on August 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM
I don’t know… will he actually finish the race this time? How many phone calls will he take during speeches? Or maybe he plans on winning NY State by just campaigning in Brooklyn?
I like Rudy, but he hasn’t been the most politically reliable figure.
We’ll see.
Daddy-O on August 25, 2009 at 11:41 AM
An “unfortunate” choice of words.
Ronnie on August 25, 2009 at 11:41 AM
If Dems reject Patterson, think of the blue on blue food fight with the race card being thrown around.
Could not have happened to nicer guys.
RobCon on August 25, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Hee-hee. If only Paterson could see how bad he really is.
I think this is a FANTASTIC idea…keep Rudy busy….no time for making an a$$ of himself in 2012.
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Go Rudy!
Even though I was not a big Rudy supporter in the 2008 Presidential elections, it’s good to have him on our side. And we need to exploit every weakness in the Democrats to gain seats everywhere, at the federal, state, and local levels.
UltimateBob on August 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM
“eyeballing”?
Nothing like a little blind person humor.
faraway on August 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Let me be clear. I have taken your headline out of context.
faraway on August 25, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Oh, Rudy, please. NY could more than accommodate any of your short comings just to get rid of the current imbecile heir of Spitzer.
That or run for Senate against Gillibrand.
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Isn’t Cuomo a Cuomo… worse than Clintonista.
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Paterson won’t see you coming, Rudy!
Keef Overbite on August 25, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Everyone go home. This one takes the cake.
*Wipes cheerios off computer*
HornetSting on August 25, 2009 at 11:48 AM
ROTFL
hoosiermama on August 25, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Just a hunch, but I think the Dems stick with Paterson. Just like Mario Cuomo opted not to run in ’88 and ’92 for reasons never fully explained, I think the same will go for Andrew.
For one, I think Andrew has too much of a shady past in his political dealings that he doesn’t want exposed.
And two, he will be vilified by his own party if he challenges an African-American incumbent.
So, run, Rudy, run! And be prepared to be called racist and every other name in the book as you challenge Paterson. It will be ugly.
yogi41 on August 25, 2009 at 11:49 AM
He’s running against a black guy? Isn’t that raaaacist?
ted c on August 25, 2009 at 11:49 AM
rudy
SHARPTOOTH on August 25, 2009 at 11:50 AM
A nun in the convent walked into the bathroom where mother superior was taking a shower. “There is a blind man to see you,” she says. “Well, if he is a blind man, than it does not matter if I’m in the shower. Send him in.”
The blind man walks into the bathroom, and mother superior starts to tell him how much she appreciates him working at the convent for them. She goes on and on and 10 minutes later the man interrupts: “That’s nice and all, ma’am, but you can put your clothes on now. Where do you want me to put these blinds?
faraway on August 25, 2009 at 11:50 AM
He was a great mayor and he will be a great governor.
Hilts on August 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Not if it doesn’t happen in the South ;) Thus sayeth Kathleen Parker.
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Although I can appreciate a blind joke or a prostitution joke from time to time, you guys really don’t know how bad it is to have Patterson as your gov… Or Spitzer!
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Heh, a smart, accomplished, proven white guy running against Patterson? Let the race cards start flying.
Cody1991 on August 25, 2009 at 11:53 AM
I campaigned for Henry Wojtaszek when he ran unsuccessfully against Louise “baby” Slaugther a nubmer of years ago. Very smart guy. Very pretty wife. Of course, being NY, he had no chance of being elected.
Anyway, I wonder if even Giuliani can turn around NY. These are the same idiot voters that re-elected a known corruptocrat, Alan Hevesi, after all.
jamarkennedy on August 25, 2009 at 11:53 AM
I actually doubt it would happen. I hope I’m not proven wrong.
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Well then he can come to Chicago and run for something.
“Shady” works for us. The more shady the better is our motto!!!!!
Knucklehead on August 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Giuliani eyeballing Paterson’s seat
More cunningly linguistic posts from Mr. Morrissey.
fourdeucer on August 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Rudy is still The Man for 9/11, and his turning NYC around in the late 90s stands as a model of effective government. He’d get my vote if I still lived in NY.
KillerKane on August 25, 2009 at 11:55 AM
That headline will excite Rahm the Ballerina.
marklmail on August 25, 2009 at 11:56 AM
At least he’s not from……………….New Jersey.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2009 at 11:56 AM
I hope he does and can start to turn things around for NY state. Mitch Daniels is making progress in Indiana. It can be done!
Cody1991 on August 25, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I’m sure Rudy is not blindly jumping in to the race. He will win I think…even over Coooooooomo.
Gillibrand will also lose because of Rudy’s coattails.
SouthernGent on August 25, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Let’s just hope Rudy doesn’t spend the entire campaign in Florida this time.
Doughboy on August 25, 2009 at 11:58 AM
The dems will stick with Paterson. They don’t want a primary fight. And they’re not worried about Paterson’s low approval numbers. They will easily make up for the low numbers via the fine work of ACORN and the New Black Panters.
Alabama Infidel on August 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM
I hope Rudy pulls it off.
CP on August 25, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Cuomo is holding off running in hopes that the other Democratic leaders in the state can get Patterson to “bow out” of seeking a full four-year term, while Patterson tossed the race card last week as a warning shot not so much at Rudy and the Republicans as at guilty white liberal Dems in New York who want him out of office.
Cuomo may eventually run even if Patterson doesn’t pull out, but not until he has assurances from the state’s key African-American power brokers that they’re done with Patterson and won’t go along with his race card strategy (the big media outets in the state already see David as a lost cause next year and are totally ready to toss him under the bus in favor of Andrew). Given the current political climate in both Albany and Washington and the fact that both New York senate seats are up along with the governor’s post in 2010, Andrew can’t afford a bitter primary fight that ends up depressing black voter turnout next November (i.e. — He can’t play the normal Democratic Party race card against Rudy if Patterson’s just spent 6-8 months playing it against him).
jon1979 on August 25, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I hope Rudy runs, and I hope he wins. These lib clowns need to go.
NebCon on August 25, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Yes, and let’s not forget the big victory Daniels just had – in a year when many Repubs were biting the bullet…
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 12:01 PM
We need Rudy in the Senate not Albany. He can easily turn Hillary’s old seat into a GOP one.
William Amos on August 25, 2009 at 12:02 PM
But who would challenge her? Maybe Pataki? Hmmm
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I’ve thought of this too… but he would “legislate” from a more centrist position… Hmmm
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 12:03 PM
What dress will Rudy wear to the Inauguration?
faraway on August 25, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Something a cut above FLOTUS’ choices. lol Who cares? The Frummies keep screaming about a bigger tent for the party, no?
Cody1991 on August 25, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I demand a cage match!
- The Cat
MirCat on August 25, 2009 at 12:12 PM
OT: Feingold: No health care bill before Christmas
On Drudge.
elduende on August 25, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their Country. Go Rudy!
Christian Conservative on August 25, 2009 at 12:14 PM
There is a plural to follower of Frum?
Upstater85 on August 25, 2009 at 12:17 PM
True. But don’t you think he’s positioning for another run for prez?
He’s too socially liberal for my preferences, but I’m a big Rudy fan nonetheless. He may be strong enough to roll back the Obama transformation.
GO RUDY!
petefrt on August 25, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Does this make Guiliani a racist too?
MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 12:19 PM
You mean Kathleen the betrothed?
FontanaConservative on August 25, 2009 at 12:20 PM
He’s just in time to announce his candidacy on 9/11…
lawtwin on August 25, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Rudy would be 1000% better than Paterson or Cumo, but good grief’, 20 million people in NY and we can’t find one “Conservative” to run for governor. With hopenchange running off the tracks, this may be a once in a lifetime opportunity to sell conservative principles in NY.
Alabama Infidel on August 25, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Patterson will never see Rudy coming. I think Guilliani would win by a landside.
Wolftech on August 25, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Get ready for the gay jokes.
MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Contrary to what liberals say to define conservatives. This hard core conservative would have voted for him for president in a heartbeat from the get-go. I liked him WAY more then McCain and her daddy.
b1jetmech on August 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM
The problem with the libs is they can’t understand that the reason we don’t like them is not that they are black, but they happen to be idiots. Being black isn’t a factor in the decision.
mwdiver on August 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Living in NY, I don’t see why any Rep or Conserv.would really want the job. Aside from the folks upstate, the bulk of the pop. is centered around NYC, and it’s all lib 24/7. These people will be willing to go down with the Obama ship, so I’m not so sure Rudy’s a shoe-in anyway–especially since he most recently ran for the Rep. nomination and tried to polish his conservative bona fides.
So why does Rudy want to lead “us?” I think NY’ers should be left to their fate, with a Paterson-type at the helm, as punishment for being stupid.
Is Rudy trying to be a savior? Does he want to “reform” these nutty libs? And why not the Senate? What’s his real motive? How does he see the chess board?
JiangxiDad on August 25, 2009 at 12:23 PM
All Giuliani needs to do is catch Paterson in his blind spot
FontanaConservative on August 25, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Eeegads, another gay joke.
MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 12:25 PM
I really wish he would moderate his stance on some of his social philosophy, however, under the circumstances, he’s by far the best choice and I’m behind him all the way. But (and it’s a BIG but) don’t forget, he’s left us at the alter twice now. Any endorsement or nomination must include some sort of performance bond on Rudy’s part. If he wants the nomination, we need some assurance he won’t at the last minute, say “Sorry, something came up.”
In fairness, one of those times involved his cancer diagnosis and treatment, but he claims a clean bill of health, so if he wants to run he’d better be serious about it.
Mr. Grump on August 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM
“Eyeballing”
Bad choice of words. You’re supposed to hate Patterson because he’s black, not cause he’s blind. Don’t you listen?
Kasper Hauser on August 25, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Go Rudy. He may try for POTUS again, but I’m not sure of that. Won’t he be 68 in 2012, and 72 in 2016? If he wants the bigtime, 2012 looks better. Could be hard to settle into Albany, then hit the campaign trail before his policies have dry ink.
I see this as a genuine desire to make a difference for his state, and finishing on a high note. “Governor of New York” is a better last chapter than “failed candidate for White House.”
cs89 on August 25, 2009 at 12:34 PM
master tactician: we’ll win
floridanew york!sesquipedalian on August 25, 2009 at 12:38 PM
He already did turn around NYC when he was mayor, and that’s where the vast majority of liberal voters live and work. If anyone can do it for the whole state, it’s Rudy who I’d love to see win.
DrAllecon on August 25, 2009 at 12:39 PM
I disagree. Rudy’s much better poised to do a good job as one of 50 (or 57 if you are Obama) governors. He’s a social liberal in a socially liberal state. In the Senate he’d be one of 100 and, most likely a RINO on the social issues. Far better for all concerned for Rudy to take on the challenges of NY than move to DC.
highhopes on August 25, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Every state can be saved. That said, I don’t know how Rudy will get reforms through the NY state legislature, but he was successful with the NYC city council, so who knows.
I’m much more interested in Pataki running for Senate. That’ll be great picking up a true blue seat.
TimTebowSavesAmerica on August 25, 2009 at 12:47 PM
No one here should underestimate Rudy.
The Democrats in NY know pretty well that Rudy took over as Major of the City after the total incompetence of David Dinkins became manifest for everyone there to see, especially with the Crown Heights Riots of 1991 and the “Don’t Dis Your Sis’” slogan against sexual assault in the ghettos. By the time 1993 came and went, too many New Yorkers fell good to give Dinkins the boot for an anti-Mafia former U.S. prosecutor.
Patterson is looking like a total bumbling fool: more NYers are seeing it every day, and the Democrats know it. A run by Rudy will mean repeating history – something the Democrats don’t want.
In eight years, very few know what Dinkins is up to. So it will be with Patterson. The Democrats know it.
newton on August 25, 2009 at 12:49 PM
If I lived in New York, I’d want Giuliani for Governor and I wouldn’t waste my time worrying about Cuomo. Giuliani should beat him as well.
Since I do not live in NY though, I would prefer Giuliani run for the Senate seat vacated by Hillary Clinton. That would seem to be a tougher race and a much mroe likely win for Cuomo if he went for that while Giuliani goes for Governor.
Daemonocracy on August 25, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Go Rudy!
Security Mom on August 25, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Yes…the poll I posted from Siena College in the headlines on this shows Pataki winning.
SouthernGent on August 25, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Go Rudy!
gophergirl on August 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM
I don’t care what he wears, as long as he’s inaugurated. Hell’s bells, I would hock my car to buy him a Dior original for the occasion! GO RUDY!!!
Mary in LA on August 25, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Go Rudy!
jhffmn on August 25, 2009 at 1:27 PM
I’ll work my b***s off for Giuliani if he runs.
blatantblue on August 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM
I guess it is somehow my fault for recoiling at the thought of Rooty eyeballing Patterson’s seat . No need to feel guilty , I think I was already like this .
borntoraisehogs on August 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Why is this thread full of gay innuendo?
Or, are you people being willfully blind?
Loxodonta on August 25, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Stop making fun of deaf people, please.
Loxodonta on August 25, 2009 at 2:16 PM
As long as Rudy doesn’t do this half assed like his Presidential run, he should win. Even the Daily Show watching base in New York thinks Patterson is lame.
Speedwagon82 on August 25, 2009 at 2:44 PM
As a New Yorker (NY state, I remind those who forget that large land mass north of NYC), I want Patterson out. If nothing else than he`s such a whiny baby.
“Oh…..I got a hang nail. I suppose when there`s more than one black man in office, people will do this kind of stuff to me.” (frowns)
ThePrez on August 25, 2009 at 3:06 PM
I became disappointed in Giuliani after his presidential run. He showed poor judgment and leadership there.
TopLawyer on August 25, 2009 at 3:15 PM
East Coast Pro-Baby Killing Democrat versus East Coast Pro-Baby Killing Republican. Nothing to choose from there.
Jeff from WI on August 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Unflattering article on Cuomo:
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/08/18/bring-us-together/print
YehuditTX on August 25, 2009 at 4:47 PM
The main point of the article is that Cuomo understands as much about market economics as Obama. Rudy would make NY an attractive place to do business again.
YehuditTX on August 25, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Giuliani is a shoe-in. He could easily defeat Paterson.
alliebobbitt on August 25, 2009 at 8:06 PM
There’s a good chance that New Yorkers will be OK with a RINO.
He’ll be more frugal in asking for the rest of us to float the Empire State and the Jewel of the Hudson.
Dr. ZhivBlago on August 25, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Cut that RINO BS out. Rudy is the right conservative for a liberal state like New York. I can understand the concern with Rudy on a national ticket, but he would be great for New York. What is wrong with a politician reflecting the people he represents?
Rudy would be tough to beat. Upstate New York will understand/accept the fact that he is not a ‘pure’ conservative. And he did manage to win New York City as Mayor–can’t say many Republicans could keep the Dem vote under control in the city.
BryanS on August 25, 2009 at 11:51 PM
by-line…..absolutely brilliant!!
made my day! thanks!
banjobill on August 26, 2009 at 4:47 AM