GDP decline twice as bad as Obama WH predicted

posted at 10:55 am on August 25, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The latest retreat on economic credibility at the White House comes at a particularly bad time.  Barack Obama has tried to sell his economic agenda on health-care reform and cap-and-trade as economic boons instead of boondoggles.  However, his mid-year recasting of American economic performance and admission of the deficit impact of his budgets will continue to erode confidence in his competence:

U.S. unemployment will surge to 10 percent this year and the budget deficit will widen to $1.5 trillion next year, reflecting a “deeper recession” than previously expected, White House budget chief Peter Orszag said.

The Office of Management and Budget also forecasts that the U.S. economy will shrink 2.8 percent this year, worse than the 1.2 percent contraction the OMB projected in May. For next year, the budget office said the gross domestic product will grow 2.0 percent, less than the 3.2 percent expected in May. By 2011, the economy would be well on its way to recovery, growing at a 3.8 percent annual rate, according to the administration’s mid-year economic review, released this morning.

The budget shortfall for 2010 will mark the second straight year of trillion-dollar deficits. The projected deficit for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1 is higher than the $1.26 trillion forecast in May and reflects expectations economic growth will be slower this year and next because of “the severity of the crisis in the U.S. and in our trading partners,” said Christina Romer, White House chief economist, who along with Orszag briefed reporters on the report.

Let’s recall the difference between Orszag’s OMB projections for the deficit in March, and the CBO’s numbers:

The difference between these projections was the prediction of Obama’s economic advisers of US economic performance.  They predicated their numbers, in the light pink, based on the entirely unrealistic expectation of getting -1.2% GDP growth this year, after the first quarter came in at -6% (annualized), later revised to -5.4%.  Even while the second quarter continued to look poor, the OMB continued with its sunny analysis.  Now that we’re in the middle of the third quarter and growth remains elusive — and more importantly, unemployment continues to rise — the White House has no fig leaf to hide their errors.

Why did the OMB hold out this long against CBO predictions?  Simple; the Obama administration needed sunnier numbers in order to justify its plans to spend vast sums of money on its social-engineering agenda.  Even in the best of times, these programs would be disastrous, but during a deep recession, they will kill any hope of economic growth.  In short, OMB indulged in political hackery, hoping to continue their deception long enough to get ObamaCare and cap-and-trade through a compliant Congress.  Now they have to admit that they either conducted an incompetent analysis while most significant economists scoffed at their projections for growth, or cooked the books.

Orszag should resign as OMB director after this performance.  (I have no expectations that he will, but he should.)  Remaining in the President’s budget office only extends the credibility crisis to everything else produced by the White House on the economic agenda.  How can anyone trust Obama and Orszag after the complete failures of Porkulus and the budget projections, especially given the political manipulations involved?

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4

It’s Bush’s fault.

TouchingTophet on August 25, 2009 at 10:56 AM

this doesn’t surprise me. but what is the political fallout for bambi.

kelley in virginia on August 25, 2009 at 10:57 AM

see america – that’s how the adults run the WH

gatorboy on August 25, 2009 at 10:57 AM

I demand we imprison CIA operatives to make up for the budget shortfall.

rob verdi on August 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM

FAIL!

fbcmusicman on August 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM

The Office of Management and Budget also forecasts that the U.S. economy will shrink 2.8 percent this year, worse than the 1.2 percent contraction the OMB projected in May. For next year, the budget office said the gross domestic product will grow 2.0 percent, less than the 3.2 percent expected in May.

Those numbers are too optimistic.

Vashta.Nerada on August 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM

It would have been much worse if we hadn’t enacted the stimulus…Obama.
That is the only argument they have…btw, he just happened to be on vacation, and this is about 1/2 dozen major problems that have been exposed.
Starting with we will be 2 trillion dollars further in debt…and it is only Tuesday.

right2bright on August 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM

The mainstream media will say something like “we inherited an economic downturn from Bush that is much worse than previously thought… imagine if we hadn’t had the stimulus package, unemployment would be at 20%… etc…”

ChristianRock on August 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Orszag should resign as OMB director after this performance. (I have no expectations that he will, but he should.)

resign… are you crazy ed, he’s a perfect fit for this sorry azz administration.

SHARPTOOTH on August 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM

The rumor of my demise was premature – The Recession.

ICBM on August 25, 2009 at 11:01 AM

I demand we imprison CIA operatives to make up for the budget shortfall.

rob verdi on August 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Waterboard the OMB to get the real facts…

right2bright on August 25, 2009 at 11:01 AM

It’s Bush’s fault.

TouchingTophet on August 25, 2009 at 10:56 AM

They do seem to be saying they inherited this and things were worse than expected. The “Blame Bush” card is about all they’ve got at this point.

Doughboy on August 25, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Has anyone seen blink today?

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM

How can anyone trust Obama and Orszag after the complete failures of Porkulus and the budget projections, especially given the political manipulations involved?

If he stays, we can trust that he is wrong and take that in account.

These deficits should not effect the economy going forward, Krugman told me so. Good times are around the corner…

WashJeff on August 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM

His economic lies are can no longer be considered transparent; simply bold faced on the hopes that the masses will believe.

PatriotRider on August 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM

U.S. unemployment will surge to 10 percent this year

And 15% the year after that.

angryed on August 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Nothing that a trillion dollar healthcare reform bill can’t fix.

Ted Torgerson on August 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM

imagine if we hadn’t had the stimulus package, unemployment would be at 20%… etc…”

ChristianRock on August 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM

It would have been much worse if we hadn’t enacted the stimulus…Obama.

right2bright on August 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Get outta my head….it hurrrrttttsss

right2bright on August 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM

And not a peep.

Not.
One.
Peep.

In any of the main media outlets.

It’s all whoooo the swine flu is back

Skywise on August 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM

But, hey…. that doesn’t stop Barry from giving Petrobas/Soros billions to develop offshore drilling.

How about billions for American workers, American jobs? Nope. No way.

Cody1991 on August 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Has anyone seen blink today?

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Yes. He did a fine job cutting my lawn this morning.

angryed on August 25, 2009 at 11:04 AM

But I thought they said Obama saved the economy?

WisCon on August 25, 2009 at 11:04 AM

but we’ll have SWEET bridges once the stimulus package pays to build them all! /sarc

search4truth on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM

If we could just get that healthcare passed, all this other mess would go away. I’m going to thow up!!!

mobydutch on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM

This ain’t no game. We gotta get this insane people out of power.

Best Use of Silent No More in a Short Video. This rocks.

deedtrader on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Well, he was sure asked if he’d revise his agenda due to the crash. He repeatedly insisted, “No.”

So he brought this on himself. A bit of caution in the election would have paid off for him this year.

AnninCA on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM

This will not end well.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125112547653253819.html

AFL-CIO President Named Head of New York Fed…

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

elduende on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Dear Leader saved the economy! Dow is at 9500! Ignore the OMB numbers!

/getabrain.

Bankrupting the US is part of The One’s plan.

rbj on August 25, 2009 at 11:06 AM

YAY!! More ammunition to torpedo Obamacare with…

Heheheheheh…

Ltlgeneral64 on August 25, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Bloomberg has wan a lawsuit forcing the Fed of New York to release information on what banks the stimulus money was lent to . I think Obama is building a shadow government with that money complete with a military coming from south america.

sonnyspats1 on August 25, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Dis maff stuff is hard yo…. Now I’z can figger up how much a dime bag o’ weed cost, yo, but dis budget stuff and all deez big numbas and fo’casts and projekshuns and colored up charts and sh!t really makes me need a vacashun….

let’s go to da beach!

ted c on August 25, 2009 at 11:06 AM

I wish I could stop my leg from tingling! This guy, Obama, is a f**king Lincoln!

inspectorudy on August 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM

If the obamacare ship hasn’t hit the bottom of the ocean yet, then this will bury it down there under the bottom of the ocean.

ted c on August 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM

If what they ‘inherited’ from Bush was much worse than they thought, they should still resign or be fired for screwing up so royally. Bush’s fault or not, it’s their team now and they should pay a price (adjusted for inflation) for their own short-sightedness.

Liam on August 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM

who cares if the our country goes belly up. the main thing is that FINALLY african americans could believe that they could grow up and be A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G. yes, including the president. wait….there was another gang shooting in Chicago yesterday that took the life of an innocent teenager? NO!

Ghoul aid on August 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM

The budget shortfall for 2010 will mark the second straight year of trillion-dollar deficits.

And, they currently project a deficit in 2011 of $921 billion, and a 2012 deficit of $700 billion, both of which will have to be revised above a trillion, once the fantasy assumptions are removed. Until we start cutting government programs in their entirety, we will not see another sub-trillion deficit.

Vashta.Nerada on August 25, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Nothing to see here … move along. Report to your scheduled Obama worship promptly or else.

darwin on August 25, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Can’t get a job…
Can’t organize a community…
Can’t get a mortgage without ol’ buddy Tony…
Won’t leave Rev. Wrights church….
Wouldn’t write his own bills….
Wouldn’t vote yes or no on important things….
Didn’t write his own book….

and we expect this guy to start succeeding NOW????!?!?

ya right… next president please….

ted c on August 25, 2009 at 11:09 AM

didn’t somebody promise to cut the deficit in half yo?

ted c on August 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM

At what point does China say no more and stop buying our debt?

angryed on August 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM

“Lightworker”

JusDreamin on August 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM

I’m curious — in the brief time he’s been in office, what should Obama have done differently? NOT cut taxes? Let the banks and the car companies go under? Ignore hundreds of thousands of public sector layoffs?

There is nothing in the conservative bag of tricks that would have made these (relatively) short term numbers better. In fact, they would have made the situation dramatically worse.

Bleeds Blue on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

elduende on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM

That was beyond depressing. Cheese and rice….what the hell happened? I only ask that because those numbers are uncomprehensiable.
Holy Sh!t.

milwife88 on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

and we expect this guy to start succeeding NOW????!?!?

ya right… next president please….

ted c on August 25, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Success is all in the eye of the beholder. For Obama, disruption and chaos is success.

darwin on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Looks like that wind powered calculator isn’t all that accurate.

Jeff from WI on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

This will not end well.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125112547653253819.html

AFL-CIO President Named Head of New York Fed…

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Read that this morning too and my jaw dropped. Union thugs everwhere now. Those union pensions are safe now with one of their own to insure the fed’s support.

WashJeff on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

I keep trying to think of stuff to write that won’t get me banned or arrested….

Fishoutofwater on August 25, 2009 at 11:12 AM

And Obama’s answer to all of this………do more of it but faster, harder, and with more abandon.

That ought to fix it. Yeah…..

JoeinTX on August 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Everything will be fine as soon as we get those windmills and solar panels cranked up and give a few more bil. to Brazil for oil extraction.

Itchee Dryback on August 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM

They do seem to be saying they inherited this and things were worse than expected.

Operateive words emphazied.

WHO expected? What were those who made these predictions thinking? What WERE they expecting? That Hope-N-Changeiness was just going to magically BELIEVE and HOPE the economy back to solvency? That voting for Obama was in itself job creation?

Who are the morons who keep making these economic projections and who are always off by at least 50%? Did ANYONE in the administration take econ 101 or 102, by any chance?

Putting on the tin foil hat for a sec, what if this is intentional? We’re now seeing a pattern developing of low-balling every budget projection, and then when the truth (which you studiously avoid at the outset) is worse than the projection (which you knew it would be going in), you say, “well, this economy we inherited (TM) is a lot worse than expected, so we’re going to have to take REALLY drastic measures and spend X trillions MORE dollars to “fix” the problem. And if anybody dissents, they’re un-American political terrorists and want to kill the president.”

So – make intentionally low-ball prediction, cite “hope and change” for reason to be optimistic, let truth out (much worse than “expected”), blame Bush, take more radical action while assuring everyone that the unpopular, budget-busting radical action “was Bush’s fault” and that “you’re fixing it.”

Ad nauseum.

Good Lt on August 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM

It is unbelievable how abjectly wrong Obama’s adminstration has has been on every single financial projection that they have made (and 100% of the time it is worse than they predict). No media accountability will allow them to continue to paint rosy/unrealistic projections on every policy issue while the country is run by an administration that is more confused than a chameleon in a bowl of skittles. What a bunch of lying incompetent twits!

chromium on August 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Will Krugman revise his op-ed from yesterday????

Holding breath.

Odie1941 on August 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM

I keep trying to think of stuff to write that won’t get me banned or arrested….

Fishoutofwater on August 25, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Me too. Sometimes if I wrote what I really thought I’d be outta here in a heartbeat.

darwin on August 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Crisis! Don’t worry, Dear Leader will not let this crisis go to waste. The more scared we are the easier it is too pass repulsive bills.

d1carter on August 25, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Shhh! The stimulus is working. Obama said so! Come on, people, why don’t you believe it?!

/sarc

CP on August 25, 2009 at 11:15 AM

But doubling the debt in 10 years is a good thing, right?

lorien1973 on August 25, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Connect the dots. Follow the money. Fact? or Fiction? You decide.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

and….

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967

lyfsatrip on August 25, 2009 at 11:15 AM

The Junior Achievement President.

TexasJew on August 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM

At what point does China say no more and stop buying our debt?

angryed on August 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM

They’ve been quietly divesting their long term US debt (30yr) and moving into the shorter term issuance.

elduende on August 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I’m curious — in the brief time he’s been in office, what should Obama have done differently? NOT cut taxes? Let the banks and the car companies go under? Ignore hundreds of thousands of public sector layoffs?

There is nothing in the conservative bag of tricks that would have made these (relatively) short term numbers better. In fact, they would have made the situation dramatically worse.

Bleeds Blue on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

- Payroll tax holiday for the year.
- Make the Bush tax cuts permenent.
- Not gave any money to the auto makers and let them go – brankrupt like they did anyway.
- Reduce public employees (layoffs)
- Across the board budget for all descretionary spending (e.g,, 5% cut).

The short may have not been that much different, but the future growth would be more solid since the government is wasting less of our money and the market would be able to find a true bottom (not a government propped up one).

WashJeff on August 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Obama and his unaccountable minions are undermining the country.

Dusty on August 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM

The only thing Obama’s incompetent economic adviser Christina Romer can forecast accurately is a large lunch, which, from the looks of it, is something she’s never missed.

She’s like Orzag, a political hack. Except she eats more than Orzag does.

bradley11 on August 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM

The president will not be satisfied until our neighborhoods are shanty towns, our children are in hunger, and our daily safety is threatened. He will attempt to seize our freedom and our liberty and sell it back to us as security. He is trying to reduce our willingness to fight.

he will fail

ted c on August 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I keep trying to think of stuff to write that won’t get me banned or arrested….

Fishoutofwater on August 25, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Same here. It’s becoming increasingly difficult.

Cody1991 on August 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM

bradley11 on August 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM

+2

ted c on August 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM

All of you are way to sensitive…it could be worse, it could be 4 times worse, rather then 2 times worse.
If the news gets any more dire, Duckworth has a book for Obama.

right2bright on August 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM

And not a peep.

Not.
One.
Peep.

In any of the main media outlets.

It’s all whoooo the swine flu is back

Skywise on August 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM

But you are so wrong! One of the headlines over at the CNN page says “Consumer Confidence Soars”

Get with the program Comrade, learn to read better!!!

//sarc///sarc and more //sarc

Knucklehead on August 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM

The question is how much longer will the swing voters buy the whole “We inherited this mess from Bush” excuse.

Browncoatone on August 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Bleeds Blue on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Are you retarded? And no I am not joking.

angryed on August 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM

One thing you learn as a community organizer, the poor is too busy to fight…only the people who are paying their bills are the ones that have the energy to fight.

right2bright on August 25, 2009 at 11:20 AM

I’m curious — in the brief time he’s been in office, what should Obama have done differently? NOT cut taxes? Let the banks and the car companies go under? Ignore hundreds of thousands of public sector layoffs?

There is nothing in the conservative bag of tricks that would have made these (relatively) short term numbers better. In fact, they would have made the situation dramatically worse.

Bleeds Blue on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

He could have spent TARP funds on stimulating business, especially small business, instead of using taxpayer money to pay off his union pals. That’s just for starters.

Cody1991 on August 25, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Every day that he’s on his vacation, he’s going to drop one piece of bad news on the public. I don’t even want to think what they’re going to dump on us tomorrow.

yogi41 on August 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM

That was beyond depressing. Cheese and rice….what the hell happened? I only ask that because those numbers are uncomprehensiable.
Holy Sh!t.

milwife88 on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

And to that they want to add a massive takeover of heathcare impacting the GDP numbers and adding to the spending.

Add to that the economy killing Cap and tax boondoggle.

And to cap it off they are going to gut our military to try to help pay for it, which isn’t enough anyway. (mind you the only thing they have constitutional authority to spend on is the one thing they plan on gutting.)

They will implode this economy and our nation to get their way.

elduende on August 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM

It’s the economy stupid.

csdeven on August 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Every day that he’s on his vacation, he’s going to drop one piece of bad news on the public. I don’t even want to think what they’re going to dump on us tomorrow.

yogi41 on August 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM

And then declare,” don’t blame me, I wasn’t there.”

ICBM on August 25, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Bleeds Blue on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

First off, he never cut taxes. It’s a with-holding change that will be paid back next year. So get that lie straight first of all, okay?

Secondly, they could have passed a payroll tax holiday for 6 months. This would have put money directly into peoples’ hands without having it go through Washington. See the stories complaining about how “slow” stimulus funding is? Those stories are gone and people have more to spend.

Yes, those public sector jobs (which cost money and are not actual, you know, real jobs) could have gone away.

He could have, you know, not nationalized entire segments of the economy. So what if GM goes under? Someone else would fill the void. Us bankrolling GM just cost is $20 billion, since they went bankrupt anyways.

He could not be considering legistlation that will make employment costs higher, energy costs higher, etc. Why would any reasonable company hire anyone, not know what the future will bring for taxes.

Try to imagine the implied tax increase for a $9 trillion deficit over 10 years.

lorien1973 on August 25, 2009 at 11:22 AM

inspectorudy on August 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM

:]

bluelightbrigade on August 25, 2009 at 11:22 AM

I’m curious — in the brief time he’s been in office, what should Obama have done differently? NOT cut taxes? Let the banks and the car companies go under? Ignore hundreds of thousands of public sector layoffs?

Obama cut taxes? When? where?

He should not have passed the porkulus bill – he should have cut taxes.

He should not have bailed out the auto companies (i.e., nationalization of auto companies).

They should not have done the clunkers b.s.

They should have cut spending and tried to keep the decicit down.

he should not be trying to socialize 1/4 of the economy (health care).

he should not be suggesting cap & trade which will kill the economy

He should not be suggesting card check – which will harm the economy.

Things would not be worse w/ conservative policies. Indeed, Obama’s policies are going to make the recession much, much deeper and longer than it would have been. And, if he gets health care passed and/or cap & trade, the recession will likely turn into a depression.

Socialism never works. it is a destructive philosophy – it destroys economies, liberty and usually lives.

Monkeytoe on August 25, 2009 at 11:22 AM

There is nothing in the conservative bag of tricks that would have made these (relatively) short term numbers better. In fact, they would have made the situation dramatically worse.

Bleeds Blue on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Notice that Europe did not buy into the stimulus plan that Obama tried to foist on them…and they are coming out of the economic downturn much quicker, and they were in much worse shape.
And they are thumbing their nose at his foolish plans…
Try to catch up with the real news, and stay off your DU sites.

right2bright on August 25, 2009 at 11:23 AM

What is truly remarkable is the amount of outright lies these knuckleheads are passing around. Stuff that is readily countered by that hated enemy of the left: fact. I understand not agreeing on the big gov’t/little gov’t ideology…but saying one thing while the exact opposite is a provable fact is absurd. Or maybe just too arrogant.

search4truth on August 25, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Connect the dots. Follow the money. Fact? or Fiction? You decide.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

and….

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967

lyfsatrip on August 25, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Yup. But almost nobody is listening except maybe Glenn Beck, and they’re trying to destroy him now.

Daggett on August 25, 2009 at 11:23 AM

I blame the MSM as much as Dear Leader.

d1carter on August 25, 2009 at 11:23 AM

oops

Can we get a reset button?

FontanaConservative on August 25, 2009 at 11:24 AM

I’m curious — in the brief time he’s been in office, what should Obama have done differently? NOT cut taxes? Let the banks and the car companies go under? Ignore hundreds of thousands of public sector layoffs?

There is nothing in the conservative bag of tricks that would have made these (relatively) short term numbers better. In fact, they would have made the situation dramatically worse.

Bleeds Blue on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Obama could have done a few things differently and he would have been flying high right now. First, the stimulus package is the real killer. We are arguing whether it would have been worse if it had not passed, but very few people are saying that it is a smashing success. I am a capitalist through and through and I hated when Bush messed with the economy just as much as I did with Obama. If he hadn’t asked for almost a trillion at the very start this deficit wouldn’t be as high as it is.

You also asked if he should have let the things go under, and the answer is yes. Capitalism requires something called creative destruction. This is when a company that can no longer compete falls apart and is bought by other companies that can. It shouldn’t matter how big the company is. The only thing we managed to do with the auto industry is delay the true day of reckoning because I highly doubt giving unions will run a company effectively.

The economic chaos this would have caused would have been staggering, I do know that. But this is how it needs to be done. Do you want to pull the band-aid off quickly and have pretty bad pain for a few seconds or slowly tear it off and drag it on for a minute or more? The plus side to this massive chaos is that we would be about $4 trillion dollars richer, this year alone…not including interest.

txaggie on August 25, 2009 at 11:24 AM

And, for the record, I was against TARP under Bush. I think that was foolish as well.

Monkeytoe on August 25, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Bleeds Blue on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

This is a clear example of the level of stupidity and absolute disconnection from reality we have to deal with. People THIS stupid comprising very large groups constitute a clear and present danger to this republic.

Are they even educable anymore? Have their brains been hard-wired to this level of stupidity by drugs? Mental illness? Has the “Idiocracy” reached its full manifestation now or something? At some point, don’t we have to stop wasting time arguing with these “dinner tables” and take matters into our own hands?

Fishoutofwater on August 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Every day that he’s on his vacation, he’s going to drop one piece of bad news on the public. I don’t even want to think what they’re going to dump on us tomorrow.

yogi41 on August 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Here you go:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Plr3VyISKcg/RgkCYdXuc5I/AAAAAAAAACs/z5Z6l3nVVMM/s400/protester%2Bpoops%2Bon%2BAmerican%2BFlag%2BGI.JPG

h/t Doorgunner (via the CheneyFTW! thread earlier)

bluelightbrigade on August 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM

elduende on August 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM

“Overwhelm the System”

Knucklehead on August 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Sooooo we should trust anything Obama says/does, WHY???

marklmail on August 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Yes. He did a fine job cutting my lawn this morning.

angryed on August 25, 2009 at 11:04 AM

You trusted him with a sharp object? After this mornings news??

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM

There is nothing in the conservative bag of tricks that would have made these (relatively) short term numbers better. In fact, they would have made the situation dramatically worse.

Bleeds Blue on August 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

What “bag of tricks” would have made the economy worse? You can’t claim ignorance, then make a statement based on your own ignorance.

Short answer: spend half of the “stimulus” directly to TAX PAYING AMERICANS and the recovery would be in full gear.

Odie1941 on August 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM

And, for the record, I was against TARP under Bush. I think that was foolish as well.

Monkeytoe on August 25, 2009 at 11:24 AM

I’ll go you one further: I was against MOST of what Bush did in the 2nd term. He lost his way and led a direction against most of what conservatives believe. I believe Bush felt a calling to follow that direction, but I never agreed with it.

search4truth on August 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM

WashJeff on August 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Add on to your list the Dems listening to Bash last year when the Fannie Mae crisis was starting to brew, and done something about it.

Liam on August 25, 2009 at 11:27 AM

At what point does China say no more and stop buying our debt?

Does make you wonder. What was it, last month or so, that Geithner went to China with all the numbers to reassure the ChiComs we were going to get that deficit/debt thing under control in short order.

Offical Obama Admin response: “Oooops.”

JoeinTX on August 25, 2009 at 11:27 AM

search4truth on August 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Just the second term? Outside foreign policy and meager tax cuts, Bush was a mess domestically.

lorien1973 on August 25, 2009 at 11:27 AM

but we’ll have SWEET bridges once the stimulus package pays to build them all! /sarc

search4truth on August 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM

If only we could afford the gas to drive on them.

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Has anyone seen blink today?

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Over in the “Democrats go alone on Obamacare,” aka Dems want to destroy our country thread.

conservative pilgrim on August 25, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4