Rasmussen: Obama passion index at -12

posted at 10:12 am on August 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, the Rasmussen “passion index” — the difference between those strongly approving of Barack Obama’s performance and those strongly disapproving — reached its nadir, at -14.  Today, Obama has bounced back a little to -12.  His overall job approval number is still 49%, though, and 50% disapprove:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 28% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -12[.] …

Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty percent (50%) now disapprove. …

Of the priorities outlined by the President earlier this year, 40% of voters say cutting the deficit is most important. Twenty-one percent (21%) believe health care should be the top objective. While deficit reduction is seen as the most important, 67% say it is the least likely to be achieved.

Rasmussen makes crosstabs available for a rolling one-week compilation of its presidential approval polling (to members), and the data there is pretty interesting.  Independents only give Obama a 41% approval rating, and a 57% disapproval.  Younger voters give Obama higher marks (60% approval ratings among 18-29YOs), but thirtysomethings approve 51%-49%, and the news gets worse for Obama afterwards.  Likely voters in their 40s disapprove 58%, between 50 and 64 years disapprove 51%, and 65+ disapprove 55%.

Income demographics look even worse.  Obama carries the under-$20K demo easily, with 73% approving, but that changes immediately in the next bracket:

  • $20-40K: Disapprove 52%
  • $40-60K: Disapprove 52%
  • $60-75K: Disapprove 63%
  • $75-100K: Disapprove 55%

Obama’s problem, ironically, isn’t that this reversal will damage him, at least not in the short term.  He has over three years before he has to face voters.  Unfortunately, Obama’s damaging his colleagues in Congress in exactly the demographics they need to win in the midterms.  Without Obama on the ticket, the Democrats can’t rely on a big turnout among youth and low-income earners.  The motivated demographics will be the ones that are angry at the hard-Left policies of the Obama administration and Congress — and right now, that looks like almost all of them, especially independents.

If we needed any evidence of this, the same report has the crosstabs for the generic Congressional ballot.  Republicans lead by four points overall, but among independents, the GOP has a whopping 20-point lead, 42%-22%.  The GOP wins all of the 40+ age demographics, by ten, five, and fifteen points respectively.  Democrats win the youngest voters by merely four points and thirtysomethings are almost a dead heat, 40%-39% Democrats.  Republicans win every income demographic except under-$20K.

Obama may have improved since yesterday, but the tea leaves don’t hold out much hope that he will bounce upward in any significant manner.


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OK, I like seeing the occasional poll, but passion index?

Upstater85 on August 24, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Hopefully a trend that will continue.

RobCon on August 24, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Tell him what he’s won, Johnny.

Fletch54 on August 24, 2009 at 10:16 AM

he improved because he left on vacation. if he leaves the Presidency & moves back home to wherever he is really from, i will give him a 100% approval rating.

kelley in virginia on August 24, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Maybe it improved because bho is on vacation and we won’t have to hear or see him for a week.
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letget on August 24, 2009 at 10:16 AM

and today’s bombshell to the seniors won’t help him any either among the older demographics

gatorboy on August 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Obama carries the under-$20K demo easily, with 73% approving, but that changes immediately in the next bracket

:

Second look at Death Panels for unproductive citizens?

Just kidding. I’ll settle for better education programs that are run by inner-city grievance mongers.

BuckeyeSam on August 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM

BuckeyeSam on August 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM

(Sigh) are should be aren’t.

BuckeyeSam on August 24, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Income demographics look even worse. Obama carries the under-$20K demo easily, with 73% approving, but that changes immediately in the next bracket:

People with jobs or businesses of any kind are starting to overwhelmingly distrust our President.

Solution: more people without jobs.

forest on August 24, 2009 at 10:19 AM

It’ll be fun to watch when the rats start jumping off this sinking ship.

solidaction on August 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Unfortunately for him, Obama’s damaging his colleagues in Congress in exactly the demographics they need to win in the midterms.

FIFY.

TXUS on August 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Second look at Death Panels for unproductive citizens?

Only objectivists want Death Panels for unproductive citizes, i.e., “moochers”. The Death Panels would be comprised of objectivists, of course.

RayinVA on August 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM

He improved because he left on vacation. if he leaves the Presidency & moves back home to wherever he is really from, I will give him a 100% approval rating.

kelley in virginia on August 24, 2009 at 10:16 AM

+1

We can only hope that this trend continues. I don’t want him treading water, I want him under.

TXMomof3 on August 24, 2009 at 10:21 AM

these 20-something need to get a clue since they will ultimately be left the burning bag of sh!t known better as the THE BILL for Obama’s insanity. I’m only 35 myself so it’s not like I will escape having to pay a lot of too.

gsherin on August 24, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Obama may have improved since yesterday, but the tea leaves don’t hold out much hope that he will bounce upward in any significant manner.

When the filthy liar gets a bill called “healthcare reform” passed, his numbers will bounce back. He’ll either recapture the moderates who are afraid reform goes to far (i.e. the public single-payer plan) or he’ll get a boost from the hard left for sticking it to the public.

highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM

I’m all for a tax on Kool Aid these days, there’s 28% of people who are still mainlining that crap via IV.

ted c on August 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM

This is unbelievable in the fact that this many still approve of him????? Are they so engrossed in People mag. and mtv and where the next party is, that they really don’t know what the heck has been going on the past month?!

ohiobabe on August 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM

We’re still 14-plus months out from the midterms, but we’re getting closer to the point that the White House may decide that — for Obama’s long-term viability — throwing the Democratic leaders in Congress under the bus is not a bad idea.

Barack may for now give speeches saying the Republicans are trying to recreate 1994, but he and his staff also know Bill Clinton was able to triangulate off of the GOP Congress (with the big media’s help) to win re-election. So the absolute worst outcome in 2010 for Obama would probably be a 35-seat loss in the House and a 6-8 seat drop in the Senate, where the Democrats suffer big losses but still have Pelosi and Reid (or if he’s gone, someone like Chuckie Schumer) as the official faces of Congress.

jon1979 on August 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM

“An improvement since yesterday.”

It’s the Kerry-vacation effect.

Dusty on August 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM

When the filthy liar gets a bill called “healthcare reform” passed

I don’t think he wants it to pass at this point, if it does, he’ll have to deal with even less popular agenda items (cap and trade and immigration).

His entire agenda is an ankle weight. He has no way to regain the popularity he carelessly frittered away.

NoDonkey on August 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM

What did Barry Say about the Lockerbie bomber going free? Oh, that’s right, nothing. The Jews should like that.

bloggless on August 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM

He’s carrying the “gimme yo stuff” bracket handily, upwards of 90%.

Alden Pyle on August 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM

And the news hasn’t exactly been great the last few days. There was the $9 trillion dollar debt story they dumped Friday afternoon(when Obama was heading off to Martha’s Vineyard of all places). Then the VA death book story. And now seniors are having their Social Security benefits “cut”(if we use the Dems’ definition of the word).

And just imagine the political fallout if he jacks up everyone’s taxes before the 2010 midterms.

Doughboy on August 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Are they so engrossed in People mag. and mtv and where the next party is, that they really don’t know what the heck has been going on the past month?!

ohiobabe on August 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM

I think it’s more along the lines that they don’t see any of this stuff as effecting them personally. Hard to get excited about unemployment numbers or higher taxes when you are under 20 and/or not making much. In fact, all this “free” government stuff probably sounds good.

highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:31 AM

jon1979 on August 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Please jon1979 try not to mention Chuckie before lunch.

heshtesh on August 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM

MR PRESIDENT, PLEASE FIRE RAHM

It’s time. For all the storied backroom arm-twisting skills Rahm was supposed to bring to the White House, I’m beginning to think Obama would have been better off without him. He has failed to deliver. In fact, Obama might have been more effective and learned more about getting legislation passed with a far more low-key Chief of Staff, or no CoS at all. Too often, Obama seems to have followed the George W Bush off-hands-delegate-everything-no-personal confrontations-ever school of weak leadership.

Does Obama really need Rahm? I don’t think so. He’s done more harm than good, alienating, angering, cajoling — BUT NOT GETTING THINGS DONE. The problem isn’t necessarily even Rahm. He’s obviously a brilliant partisan legislative tactician who functions well in Congressional and campaign contexts. The problem is what Rahm does to Obama, what Rahm takes away from him. And what’s that? His greatest strength: his ability to make political love to the politicians and factions who need Obama lovin’.

Fire Rahm now PLEASE.

bifidis on August 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM

His entire agenda is an ankle weight. He has no way to regain the popularity he carelessly frittered away.

NoDonkey on August 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Let’s not forget the story going right now about the need to increase troop levels in Afghanistan. That’ll endear him to the left too. Nevertheless, I don’t think he frittered away his popularity so much as he simply assumed that being popular was a given. Why should he think otherwise when he’s always been popular on the campaign trail. He’s now having to be a leader and make decisions instead of promises. He is utterly unqualified for the task.

highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM

“60% approval ratings among 18-29YOs”

God, young people are ignorant.

barrythrowslikeagirl on August 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM

He’s carrying the “gimme yo stuff” bracket handily, upwards of 90%.

Alden Pyle on August 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Someone needs to do a quarterly update titled “How Are They Doing Now?” in which some of these famous (infamous?) Obama supporters are interviewed about how things are going. Start with the woman who was taped saying Obama was going to pay her bills. Proceed to that Henrietta woman who, with her able-bodied son, accepted the largess of a Florida Republican. Then, I want to know about that Julio (?) from McDonald’s who was working part-time at McDonald’s and was complaining about no health insurance. I think he said he was a communications major at a community college. Is he now employed in Linda Douglass’s czardom?

BuckeyeSam on August 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM

When people become employed/taxable they wise up and move to the right. Obama needs to keep these voters dependent on the gubment as long as possible.

marklmail on August 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM

Unfortunately for him, Obama’s damaging his colleagues in Congress in exactly the demographics they need to win in the midterms.
FIFY.

TXUS on August 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Obama has no colleagues in Congress–he simply has water carriers and foot soldiers. Those guys are supposed to just be the cannon fodder for his agenda. Obama has no fellow Democrats, he only has Obama as Democrat–the rest of them, well, kneel before Zod. Democratic congressmen and Senators are a dime a dozen, he’s treating them with the same antipathy that he treats seniors, the infirmed etc. “Don’t like my plan either die or get thrown out of office, I don’t care– just get it done.”

One democratic congressman recently whined that he had “tire tracks” on his chest after his own townhall meeting. I’m sure the Won could give a rip because he’s simply forcing them to take the choice between the constituents tire tracks, and those of the Won’s bus.

change you can believe in.

ted c on August 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM

Let’s not forget the story going right now about the need to increase troop levels in Afghanistan. That’ll endear him to the left too.

highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Yeah, foreign policy issues could become a major headache for him. Afghanistan was gonna be a problem no matter who won the election last year, but the way Obama and even Kerry back in 2004 have been touting this as the “right war” makes it very difficult to just bail if things continue to deteriorate.

Doughboy on August 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Why should he think otherwise when he’s always been popular on the campaign trail.

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And his entire existence has been far away from what the vast majority of Americans experience.

Hippy mother in Hawaii. Private school. Ivy League Schools. Loony left black church. Community organizing. Politics.

You can almost argue that this guy has never really experienced America. He’s always existed at the far-left fringe and has only interacted with people who agree with him.

This is the first time he’s ever had to deal with real people and it’s confusing him greatly.

NoDonkey on August 24, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Don’t be shocked if the GOP snatches defeat from the jaws of victory by putting out candidates that less fiscally conservative than the donks. Oh and we can’t get mean spirited by using their own words or pointing out facts.

jukin on August 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Someone needs to do a quarterly update titled “How Are They Doing Now?” in which some of these famous (infamous?) Obama supporters are interviewed about how things are going.

Shortly after the election, I refused to give my “spare change” to a homeless bum and he cursed me out and told me that “it’s no longer the “white” House, Obama’s in charge and things are gonna change.”

I wonder if he now feels that his ten votes for Obama were in vain . . .

NoDonkey on August 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Daily polls are a waste of time to follow if they remain within a few percentage points. A long term drop or rise on the other hand, over a few weeks, is probably statistically more telling.

Jeff from WI on August 24, 2009 at 10:44 AM

BuckeyeSam on August 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM

I’m quite sure all the people you mentioned would claim that they are doing great under the current regime. Why wouldn’t they be considering these are all individuals on the “taker” side of the ledger.

Perhaps a better spin would be to “how are they doing now” series based on specific communities and groups. Go to some town in Michigan or Ohio and see how they’re doing now that the government has seized GM. Go to a suburban unemployment office and ask the people standing in line what they think of the administration. Talk to CEOs about their confidence in this administration (probably have to be done with the execs blacked out lest the administration seek vengence). In short answer with very real stories how people are doing after eight months of bad leadership.

highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Time for some shots of his saggy moobs or the Lt.’s short shorts (of course they won’t show the scarey view from behind that truck).

Ogabe on August 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Don’t be shocked if the GOP snatches defeat from the jaws of victory by putting out candidates that less fiscally conservative than the donks.

jukin on August 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM

I agree that the GOP could totally screw up this “gift” but the only possible way to run candidates less fiscally conservative than the Democrats would be to run people who got sub-prime mortgages and have $50 thousand in credit card debit which they are paying on their McDonalds drive thru salary.

myrenovations on August 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Are they so engrossed in People mag. and mtv and where the next party is, that they really don’t know what the heck has been going on the past month?!

ohiobabe on August 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM

I think it’s more along the lines that they don’t see any of this stuff as effecting them personally. Hard to get excited about unemployment numbers or higher taxes when you are under 20 and/or not making much. In fact, all this “free” government stuff probably sounds good.

highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:31 AM

It’s also that a lot of people are just not paying attention or don’t care. I’m 30 something and most of my friends don’t care about politics and have no clue what’s going on. Until it effects them personally, with things like inflation, higher taxes, higher gas prices, they won’t be paying attention. Plus, football season is getting ready to start and baseball is in the final stretch. Many more people pay attention to that then politics. Patience my friends patience….

davek70 on August 24, 2009 at 10:47 AM

It’s time for the GOP to start fiscally conservative candidates. It’s so key in Federal and State elections right now. THAT is the major issue right now.

Oil Can on August 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM

The GOP should run advertisement targeting the youngster voters. Ads making them understand that they will be required to purchase insurance under Obamacare and that they will be paying for socialism for the rest of their lives.

farright on August 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM

And the news hasn’t exactly been great the last few days. There was the $9 trillion dollar debt story they dumped Friday afternoon(when Obama was heading off to Martha’s Vineyard of all places). Then the VA death book story. And now seniors are having their Social Security benefits “cut”(if we use the Dems’ definition of the word).

Ed Zachary!

When the vacation is over, the BO Admin is going to have to spin the media about all the extra “unexpected” debt and another swipe at old folks with the COLA news. Should be another barn burner of a week for Gibbsy and crew.

JoeinTX on August 24, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Obama and even Kerry back in 2004 have been touting this as the “right war” makes it very difficult to just bail if things continue to deteriorate.

Doughboy on August 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM

That’s not the spin now. I’ve heard two different pundits this morning make the claim that the filthy liar in the White House is hamstrung in Afghanistan because GWB launched a needless war in Iraq. That’s right. Once again the rat bastard traitor is blaming Bush for his failures.

highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM

BTW. Have there been any sightings of massive great whites around the Vineyard this year?

Alden Pyle on August 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I predict as he stays off camera his favor ability rating will go up.

Dr Evil on August 24, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Ads making them understand that they will be required to purchase insurance under Obamacare and that they will be paying for socialism for the rest of their lives.

farright on August 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM

As a group, young people don’t vote.

highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:53 AM

but the tea leaves don’t hold out much hope that he will bounce upward in any significant manner.

RACIST!

Tea leaves are black.

SouthernGent on August 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM

I predict as he stays off camera his favor ability rating will go up.

Dr Evil on August 24, 2009 at 10:53 AM

I’d suggest that is physically impossible. The filthy liar needs all the attention to be on him and him alone.

highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Are they so engrossed in People mag. and mtv and where the next party is, that they really don’t know what the heck has been going on the past month?!

ohiobabe on August 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Sadly, yes. The closest thing to news these people receive is the Daily Show.

VanPalin on August 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM

I’ve heard two different pundits this morning make the claim that the filthy liar in the White House is hamstrung in Afghanistan because GWB launched a needless war in Iraq.

That argument is failing miserably in regards to the economy, otherwise his popularity would not be plunging.

It will fail as far as Afghanistan as well.

NoDonkey on August 24, 2009 at 11:02 AM

TXMomof3 on August 24, 2009 at 10:21 AM

The S.S. Obama. Dive dive dive!!!

FontanaConservative on August 24, 2009 at 11:10 AM

The GOP should run advertisement targeting the youngster voters. Ads making them understand that they will be required to purchase insurance under Obamacare and that they will be paying for socialism for the rest of their lives.

farright on August 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM

You’re on the right track, but that may not take hold because I believe one of the provisions being floated is the ability of children, up to age 25, can remain on a parent’s plan. I can’t understand this for a full-time grad student. But if it applies for all, the argument will apply only to, say, the 26- to 30-year-old demographic. By age 30, people presumably see the wisdom of at least catasrophic coverage.

BuckeyeSam on August 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Only because he is out of Washington at the moment.

Dave R. on August 24, 2009 at 11:15 AM

You’re on the right track, but that may not take hold because I believe one of the provisions being floated is the ability of children, up to age 25, can remain on a parent’s plan.

BuckeyeSam on August 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Then the ads should resort to the good’ol days when people made fun of you when you still lived with your parents after 21. Just shame the kids into not wanting Obamacare. ;-)

WashJeff on August 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM

I predict as he stays off camera his favor ability rating will go up.

Dr Evil on August 24, 2009 at 10:53 AM

And as soon as he goes back to pushing socialist policies his ratings will tank again.

elduende on August 24, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Barry got a plus 2 just for going on vacation. Imagine what he’d get if he turned in his resignation.

GarandFan on August 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM

I have a great idea on how Obama can become more popular. Just go on Tv a little more! or try to get his picture on magazine covers a bit more. Oh, what. That’s been tried. To get on TV any more than he is now, he’d have to take over Billy Mays’ old job.

Fred 2 on August 24, 2009 at 11:33 AM

GarandFan on August 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM

I for one would suddenly strongly approve of his performance.

NoDonkey on August 24, 2009 at 11:41 AM

This is like watching two freight trains on the same track, on a collision course.

Achievers and producers on one side refusing to be enslaved by the Statists, and not producing the vote-buying revenue.

The moochers and looters on the other clamoring for more and more plunder and getting pissed when all the goodies they were promised in exchange for their votes aren’t forthcoming.

This isn’t going to end well.

Chainsaw56 on August 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Keep up the pressure! Got this ad forwarded from my niece today:

A Mom in Alabama asked her high school son to help with a commercial for the Tea Party she was involved in organizing.

“I asked Justin if he could help me make a commercial for my group’s Tea Party. He sat down at the laptop for about an hour, and then brought this to me and asked,
‘Is this okay, Mom?’
After I finished watching it, my stomach was in my throat.
I am so proud!”

It was to alert people to an April tea party, but I post it here as an ad for the March On Washington on 9/12. It’s a salute to every member of our armed forces and a call to action for every citizen.

http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/15523565/1322781786/name/TeaPartyCommercial…wmv

Christian Conservative on August 24, 2009 at 11:59 AM

OK, I like seeing the occasional poll, but passion index?

Upstater85 on August 24, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Scott Rasmussen maintains a “strongly” qualification to the approval and disapproval opinions. These people he determines to be more motivated that the average Joe Sixpack on the street who merely give the Pantload-in-Chief an up or down vote. The “stronglies” will do something because they hold their opinion — like talk to others, engage in political activity, etc. So when Obama reached negative territory in this area (some time in May) that meant that there were/are a lot of militant people out there willign to get up off their fat asses and see to it that something is done about him and his clowns.

It is significant to note that Obama’s strongly approve has shrunken to 28% — which is pretty much circle the wagons time in their camp.

VoyskaPVO on August 24, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Down down down the Won goes.

wildcat84 on August 24, 2009 at 12:05 PM

“GarandFan:..

O.T.

..are you also an owner/collector?

I have two myself — an H&R and a Srpingfield. Of course, I am looking for a Winchester and an Int’l Harverster to complete the set.

VoyskaPVO on August 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Republicans win every income demographic except under-$20K.

No surprise. People who actually work for a living will not support a Marxist.

Norwegian on August 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I foresee this yahoo making Bush look great. How’s that for tea leaf readings?

Ryan Gandy on August 24, 2009 at 12:15 PM

As Norwegian said, People who actually work and pay taxes do not support Marxism. Now if we can just get the GOP on board with the Tea Party movement instead of this watered down liberalism they’ve been flirting with,this country might have a chance.

http://www.teapartynation.com

tnmama on August 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM

With the elections so far out, I have a hard time convincing myself these have any predictive value, however as a general idea of the mood of the country, they are fascinating. The staggeringly bad indicators in the economy suggest that these numbers are on the edge of getting MUCH much worse.

WashingtonsWake on August 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM

these 20-something need to get a clue since they will ultimately be left the burning bag of sh!t known better as the THE BILL for Obama’s insanity. I’m only 35 myself so it’s not like I will escape having to pay a lot of too.

gsherin on August 24, 2009 at 10:24 AM

“60% approval ratings among 18-29YOs”

God, young people are ignorant.

barrythrowslikeagirl on August 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM


I have said this many times before and I will keep saying it until I am blue in the face. The legal voting age needs to be raised to 30 yo unless you are serving or have served in the military.

These idiot voters have no idea how these idiotic policies truly affect them until they graduate college and get real jobs, start acquiring responsibility, and start earning a paycheck. Until that happens, they are uninformed sheep who vote for people because of catchy slogans.

It is no coincidence that people become more conservative as they get older. They start to see how liberal views and policies screw them in life (unless you are poor and dependent on the government.) Their eyes begin to open to reality after the age of 30. Those in the military see it at a younger age because they put their life on the line for our country and any stupid liberal policy could mean life and death to them.

DoS_Conservative on August 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM

IMHO, the voting age needs to be at least 21, but I think there is a valid argument to be made for 25 – the age at which one can run for repesentative. The exemption for military makes sense too. Also, people who live on the dole should not be able to vote. It makes no sense to let someone continue to vote themselves more cash. Only stake holders in the govt. should have the right to vote. Also, ID should be required. If it is too hard for someone to get an ID, then they aren’t smart enough to vote anyways.

WashingtonsWake on August 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM

“but the tea leaves don’t hold out much hope that he will bounce upward in any significant manner.”

This is something we don’t know and can’t predict.

rrpjr on August 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM

All of this was pretty predictable. Obama was elected not on his accomplishments, but on his lack of them. Without hardly any record on which to evaluate him, he was able to BS his way through the election, telling each crowd exactly what they wanted to hear, leaving out any specifics, and the press gave him a pass and turned itself into a lap dog instead of the watchdog of the public. Once he was in office, and couldn’t dodge his responsibilities anymore (and no more reason to disguise his intentions — he’d climbed to the top of the political ladder), people finally started to figure out who he was, and his negatives started to grow.

Socratease on August 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM

but the tea leaves don’t hold out much hope that he will bounce upward in any significant manner.

RACIST!

Tea leaves are black.

SouthernGent on August 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Nope. Some teas are as green as our president.

Loxodonta on August 24, 2009 at 1:25 PM

IMHO, the voting age needs to be at least 21, but I think there is a valid argument to be made for 25 – the age at which one can run for repesentative. The exemption for military makes sense too. Also, people who live on the dole should not be able to vote. It makes no sense to let someone continue to vote themselves more cash. Only stake holders in the govt. should have the right to vote. Also, ID should be required. If it is too hard for someone to get an ID, then they aren’t smart enough to vote anyways.

WashingtonsWake on August 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM

People on the take definitely should not be allowed to vote.

That’s the problem with “warm body” democracies, to paraphrase Heinlein, that when everyone gets the vote whether they are producer or parasite, the parasites end up figuring out they can vote themselves “bread and circuses” from the public treasury without limit, and eventually the whole thing collapses.

We’re at that point.

Obama and the modern democrat party are the party of parasites, of bread and circuses.

wildcat84 on August 24, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Let’s not forget the story going right now about the need to increase troop levels in Afghanistan. That’ll endear him to the left too.
highhopes on August 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM

If he increases, he’l PO his base.
If he doesn’t, he’l PO everyone else.

Mr. Rock, meet Mr. Hard Place. Gotta love these self generated crisis.

MarkTheGreat on August 24, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Obama’s problem in Afghanistan is that he said he would go after the Taliban.

Most of the Taliban are now in Pakistan.

When do we invade Pakistan to go after the Taliban? It would be great if Pakistan would cut off funding to the various terror groups, but that hasn’t happened so far even when they face a home-grown insurgency from those funds. That ain’t happening. Pakistan is fighting to stay alive and Obama plays the fiddle on health care.

Of course all of Obama’s promises come with an expiration date… that includes health care ‘reform’… and my guess is that includes Afghanistan, too, as he is clueless as to what to do. At this rate that will be it for both Afghanistan and Pakistan with the nukes going to the terrorists. Fun will not be had after that.

ajacksonian on August 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM

THE INCOMPETANT A$$ WHO THOUGH HE COULD FREEBALL AS PRESIDENT IS FREEFALLING!

At this rate, their won’t be an election in 2012, there will be a revolution and Barack Obamatoinette is going to have to get out of town.

BillaryMcBush on August 24, 2009 at 2:31 PM

If i were the owners of the Sears Tower, i would double up security.

Obama may decide to take a page out of the truther’s playbook and knock a few buildings down to increase his popularity.

BillaryMcBush on August 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM

The ratings improved for the Clown b/c he abandoned his post for 10 days………….

BigMike252 on August 24, 2009 at 2:34 PM

If i were the owners of the Sears Tower, i would double up security.

Obama may decide to take a page out of the truther’s playbook and knock a few buildings down to increase his popularity.

BillaryMcBush on August 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM

With this fiasco of an “administrations” circus clown incompetence, they’d probably end up blowing up the White House instead.

NoDonkey on August 24, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Also, people who live on the dole should not be able to vote.

WashingtonsWake on August 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM

I’d need a clarification of exactly what “on the dole” means. Does it mean someone who has worked hard for thirty years, paid their taxes, and is now out of a job and is collecting unemployment, unemployment that they paid into? Is it a person who worked hard all their life, retired, and now collects Social Security, something which they also paid into? Is it a veteran who was disabled in combat and collects benefits?

What happens if you lose your job right before an election? Does your voter registration get torn up?

So for clarification please outline precisely what “on the dole” means.

Niere on August 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM

I am still curious to know where this bafoon picked up golfing skills.

Was it while he was on food stamps as a child as he claims?

Was it at the Muslim Madrasa he never attended that had him attending as a muslim citizen of indonesia?

Was it during his college spring break at columbia when he decided to visit afgahnistan during the middle of a war where american citizens were barred from traveling at the lovely Osama Bin Laden Mujahedeen and golf club?

Or was it while he was doling out money for all the radicals while heading the annenburg slush fund.

BillaryMcBush on August 24, 2009 at 3:08 PM

the under $20,000 grand think they are going to get free health care. These are the people who often times can not get medicaid, but have a hard time finding health insurance they can afford. I have news for them, nothing is free. And if Obama manages to drive the economy into the ground, they will be the first ones to feel it and the last ones to recover.

Terrye on August 24, 2009 at 3:10 PM

WashingtonWakes;

That is wrong in so many ways. I would not vote for Obama if you put a gun to my head, but to say that people on the dole[whatever that manes] should not be able to vote is stupid and wrong. It really is.

BTW, does that go for family members as well? I say that because I have no doubt that most people on the dole are related to people who could afford to help them out but won’t do it, or do not feel it is their responsibility to.

Terrye on August 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM

manes=means. preview is for sissies.

Terrye on August 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Today, Obama has bounced back a little to -12.

Wow…things got better since yesterday.

Who knew?

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Waterloo………………………………………

bluegrass on August 24, 2009 at 4:15 PM

“60% approval ratings among 18-29YOs”

God, young people are ignorant.

barrythrowslikeagirl on August 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Yes, they are. Precisely why the voting age should be raised to Thirty, and, full franchise restricted to property owners and/or Veterans.

mrpeabody on August 24, 2009 at 7:24 PM

…but to say that people on the dole[whatever that manes] should not be able to vote is stupid and wrong. It really is.

BTW, does that go for family members as well?

Terrye on August 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM

Being “on the dole” means surviving by public assistance. Or, welfare, food stamps, public housing…etc. etc. And these people most definitely should have their voting rights (full franchise) terminated as long as they are on the dole, and, until they have paid back the costs to the TAXPAYER. The Left have created whole swaths of dependent people that now vote Democrat for their very subsistence.

Why do you think the Left wants to give Amnesty to the 12 – 20 million estimated illegal aliens in this country? Why do you think they are doing everything they can to destroy our economy and reduce us to dependence on the Government? This is NOT going to end well.

As for your last question, YES, if the family members are on the dole, they lose their voting rights as well.

mrpeabody on August 24, 2009 at 7:33 PM

He an epic fail. One thing to try something different but to kill the country of freedom. not to many people will like that.

bessex on August 24, 2009 at 8:49 PM

With the elections so far out, I have a hard time convincing myself these have any predictive value, however as a general idea of the mood of the country, they are fascinating. The staggeringly bad indicators in the economy suggest that these numbers are on the edge of getting MUCH much worse.

WashingtonsWake on August 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM

I think so too. I’m almost certain he’ll get a bounce when they will pass some sort of health care reform – and make no mistake about it, they will pass something.

TopLawyer on August 24, 2009 at 9:01 PM