CIA memos on interrogation requested by Cheney finally released; Update: Cheney issues statement
posted at 10:13 pm on August 24, 2009 by Allahpundit
Remember those? We’ve finally got an answer — sort of. Confirmed: Intel obtained from detainee interrogations helped stop terror attacks. Unconfirmed: Whether any enhanced techniques were used in the interrogations that yielded that intel. Result: Inconclusive.
We need to see the unredacted memos. How about it, Barry?
The Department of Justice is compiling a list of documents, to release later this evening, related to a 2004 CIA Inspector General report on enhanced interrogation techniques that was released today. The two documents that Cheney requested will be part of that release, but were made public early by the CIA.
One of the CIA documents, entitled “Detainee Reporting Pivotal for the War Against al-Qaeda,” and written June 3, 2005, says “detainee reporting has become a crucial pillar of U.S. counterterrorism efforts, aiding intelligence and law enforcement operations to capture additional terrorists, helping to thwart terrorist plots, and advancing our analysis of the al-Qaeda target.”
The report is heavily redacted and, at times, it is unclear which detainees are being discussed. At no point does the report describe intelligence gained as result of enhanced interrogation techniques.
The report says intelligence from detainees has resulted in the thwarting of terror plans.
Carl Levin did warn us in May that the documents say nothing about enhanced interrogation, only interrogation generally. But according to Republican members, the House Intelligence Committee was told at a closed briefing as recently as June that EI did in fact yield valuable intel, a leak that drew criticism — but not contradiction — from Democrats on the committee. The GOP’s also sending around a memo tonight quoting other intel documents released by the inspector general today that claim EI was successful. You can read the whole thing at the Standard but here’s a money bit:
• After the use of the enhanced interrogation techniques on the bomber of the USS Cole, “al-Nashiri provided lead information on other terrorists during his first day of interrogation.” pages 35-36, para 76…
• “Results from the first al Qaeda HVT interrogated using the aforementioned enhanced techniques, Abu Zubayda, have been outstanding. . . . This has ultimately led to some instances of the US Government being able to neutralize Al Qaeda capabilities worldwide before there was an opportunity for those capabilities to engage in operations harmful to the United States.” CIA Business Plan discussing RDI program, page 13, March 7, 2003.
Exit question: What’s Cheney’s next move?
Update: Exit question asked, exit question answered. Do the memos prove as much as he’s suggesting here, though? “Clearly demonstrate”? The “bulk” of intelligence?
The documents released Monday clearly demonstrate that the individuals subjected to Enhanced Interrogation Techniques provided the bulk of intelligence we gained about al Qaeda. This intelligence saved lives and prevented terrorist attacks. These detainees also, according to the documents, played a role in nearly every capture of al Qaeda members and associates since 2002. The activities of the CIA in carrying out the policies of the Bush Administration were directly responsible for defeating all efforts by al Qaeda to launch further mass casualty attacks against the United States. The people involved deserve our gratitude. They do not deserve to be the targets of political investigations or prosecutions. President Obama’s decision to allow the Justice Department to investigate and possibly prosecute CIA personnel, and his decision to remove authority for interrogation from the CIA to the White House, serves as a reminder, if any were needed, of why so many Americans have doubts about this Administration’s ability to be responsible for our nation’s security.










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Now it’s Obama’s turn to yell “Palamino”. All hail the Darth Cheney.
Haunches on August 24, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Spathi sounds almost like Stasi. I am sure some people here know what that means.
utebell on August 24, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Yes it will be distraction. However, a majority of the public don’t agree with on this issue. So would he want to distract people with an issue they agree with him on???
terryannonline on August 24, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Paulites…Now a third more crazy than truthers…
Wolftech on August 24, 2009 at 10:51 PM
How Dare these CIA pigs lie to Jihadists who merely cut our heads off.
PaCadle on August 24, 2009 at 10:51 PM
It’s time to go for some more CIA memos about that lying Pelosi.
mobydutch on August 24, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Yeah, it was a Rush-Cheney tag team.
Rush: “Dick Cheney gets results.”
pearson on August 24, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Oh noes.. the evil CIA put a caterpillar in my room. And I didn’t get that second helping of tapioca pudding….
Unless they are missing body parts, its not torture.
Wolftech on August 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM
This is a distraction. But, its a measure of the trouble Obama has on healthcare that he would rather get b1tch slapped by Cheney on this issue than keep bleeding democrat support.
Its not going to work. He’s bought himself a few days at most. This shores up his base a little bit before he has to tell them that Mugabecare is dead.
elduende on August 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM
You know, if I hand’t read they blew cigar smoke in a detainee’s face, I might not have gotten so upset with the EITs. But that is a bridge too far. 2nd hand smoke causes cancer!!! I want those interrogators prosecuted and hung by their underpants for all to see.
Sue on August 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Totally messed up my last comment. Meant to write:
So would he want to distract people with an issue they don’t agree with him on???
terryannonline on August 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM
I am willing to bet that Pelosi was not lied too.
However, the dems are ambitious to keep the country “united” right now and not get any more anger or divisiveness because that will cost them votes.
Who knows maybe Obama is angry at Holder for going forward.
Actually Holder is the only one in the Obama administration who I actually like…at least for moment.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 10:54 PM
The elderly didn’t like the death panels. Now they are going to get hit with no cost of living increase (first time since 1975) and now they get to watch Obama eat crow. I’ll be enjoying watching his 65+ poll numbers dive.
Haunches on August 24, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Whew!! Who the hell would want that job?
This guy might be interested.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/ayers%20twn.jpg
izoneguy on August 24, 2009 at 10:54 PM
however Cheney mentioned in the request that enhanced interrogation methods were used so fait accompli
mathewsjw on August 24, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Indeed.
Cheney and daughter come out swinging on this one.
Didn’t they throw this card out around the time of the stimulus too?
Distractions…. Don’t take your eye off the healthcare ball folks!
katy on August 24, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Just guessing here, but I bet the CIA interrogators tried easy methods first and got nothing. So they upped the techniques, and Bingo! So to suggest that enhanced techniques didn’t work but easy methods did makes no sense.
MADgirl91 on August 24, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Getalife, is that you again? Isn’t it past bed time?
jwp1964 on August 24, 2009 at 10:56 PM
.
So armed Black Panthers should be able to intimidate people at the polls? You are nuts…
Haunches on August 24, 2009 at 10:56 PM
No kidding. Using the lib Dem’s definition of torture half the voting public would have cause to sue this administration.
Cody1991 on August 24, 2009 at 10:56 PM
err sorry I meant to say that I meant Pelosi was lied too.
She didn’t pursue it or talk about it because she doesn’t want a feud with the CIA.
Anyways feuds are fun since I don’t like any of the parties involved. We need to keep the country divided.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 10:56 PM
I don’t understand the thinking behind all of these maneuvers by this administration. Is throwing red meat at the most left part of his fringe base worth what he has to be doing to the morale of these institutions? Just because he is keying in on the CIA it can’t go unnoticed by all of the other security forces, including the military. This seems like a very reckless course of action.
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Cheney: We did what was needed to protect the American people.
Obama: People in Washington gettin’ all wee-wee’d up…
Gravitas we can believe in?
TXUS on August 24, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Sorry, but when a sitting POTUS tells the American people to STFU……….
My jaw still hurts from hitting the florr.
I can think of a lot worse things than “Barry”
katy the mean old lady on August 24, 2009 at 10:57 PM
A Paulite would say this.
terryannonline on August 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Sitting in a dark closet, typing with one finger – while masterbating – dreaming of Obama.
izoneguy on August 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Glen Greenwald’s article on Holder’s decision was great today on Salon.
He’s like the unofficial leader of the true left right now. I really like most of his work.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM
+1000
gophergirl on August 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Yeah and I’ve got unicorns running free in my backyard.
HoustonRight on August 24, 2009 at 10:59 PM
I heart Darth Cheney. Feeling safe. Priceless.
HornetSting on August 24, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Yeah, I think things are going that badly for him right now. :-)
DaveS on August 24, 2009 at 10:59 PM
This Pinnochio Presidente is really startin to piss me off. He’s attacking the very institutions and businesses that make this country great, wealthy and secure.
I’m beginning to believe this Pinnochio believes very bit of the Rev Wrights “Goddamn America”.
He certainly couldn’t do this much damage out of sheer idiocy it has got to be purposeful.
He may have jumped the shark though by pissin with the CIA.
He certainly did when he messed with SarahCuda!
dhunter on August 24, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Incredible that you can even refer to being above the law. With all the Marxist czars, and the tax-cheats and frauds as cabinet officers, it is a steady drumbeat of trampling on the Constitution, the Rule of Law and the American people. Tell us more about being above the law…I couldn’t care less what they do to obtain critical information from terrorists. If it saves military or intelligence lives, it is well worth it. Terrorists would behead anyone who opposed them, as we have seen multiple times. Holder can take a hike and I hope Cheney tells him what else he can do. I’m sick of the games, but enough distraction. Now let’s get back to the real issue-NO Gov’t takeover of HEALTHCARE!
indypat on August 24, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Since we are apparently losing in Afghanistan, maybe The One can surrender, close Gitmo, get the poppy growers to help with our health care (if they ain’t sufferin’ they ain’t sick) and send the 5,000 lawyers working on both sides (gov’t and ACLU) down to New Orleans to work on Katrina fraud. Oh, did I say fraud? I meant damage. Damage.
And He can fly over there for an apology tour. While there He can check out vacant caves that may be available after our GDP drops to a level below that of Kenya.
IlikedAUH2O on August 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Cindy, They are amatuers and are finding that now everyone is as stupid as they are in the South side of Chicago. Not so easily “organized”
Haunches on August 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Getting paid by the word tonight you miserable POS troll? FU. Of yeah, have a nice day.
jwp1964 on August 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Allah,do you allow this Spathi character to remain here for comic relief or some misplaced First Ammendment rationale? Trutherism is the moral equivalent of shouting fire in a crowded theater. The banhammer would be appropriate and much appreciated.
BillyGoatGruff on August 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM
+1
fesofee on August 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM
BillyGoatGruff,
I don’t believe that truther stuff.
Do you?
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 11:01 PM
WHy is Cheney such a racist?
exhelodrvr on August 24, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 11:01 PM
jwp1964 on August 24, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Isn’t Bush’s book due out soon? He’s been so quiet, I’ll be interested in seeing what he has to say.
MADgirl91 on August 24, 2009 at 11:03 PM
I have no intentions of hijacking this thread, but I must say this.
Those so-called people in the WH have no problems whatsoever with letting babies die on shelves…but get bent over a little water-and-role play.
Liberalism is a disease.
Oh Mercy on August 24, 2009 at 11:04 PM
I agree. This is just the distraction of the day since Pinnochio is gettin his ass handed to him on DeathCare!
Keep the heat on those Senate Scum and Congress Critters that are brave enough to poke their beedy little WEE WEED heads above ground.
I hope its’ a major march on DC Sept. 12, so major even the state run media can’t ignore it.
Of course in their best Pinnochio support roll they will try to say 1/2 those protesters are for DeathCare and the violent 1/2 are organized and against,
but then no-one is watching the state run media anyhow these days!
dhunter on August 24, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Are you posting in Esperanto?
ppaint on August 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I bet Panetta can declassify what he wants up to a certain level. He apparently was so pissed he almost quit in a expletive laced tirade.
Haunches on August 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I don’t think someone with such a narrow world view can ever be a great leader and Mr. Obama proves it daily.
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I have no intentions of hijacking this thread, but I must say this.
Those so-called people in the WH have no problems whatsoever with letting babies die on shelves…but get bent over a little water-and-role play.
Liberalism is a disease.
Oh Mercy on August 24, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Yeah, we’re supposed to be soooo sensitive to people who would murder their own kids for dating a non-Muslim.
MADgirl91 on August 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Being goofy won’t get him/her/it banned. And shouldn’t
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Son, whatever that stuff is you’re doing,you really need to do a lot less.
katy the mean old lady on August 24, 2009 at 11:10 PM
I’d rather go bird hunting with Dick Cheney any day than Sunday driving with Teddy Kennedy.
This has been an exercise in amateur hour since January 21st. These people are so infinitely clueless it is embarrassing. Daily screw ups with constant “let me be clear” explanations, followed by “oops!” we did our math wrong again, to just plain stupidity with the veteran suicide booklet, to this idiocy today, it just doesn’t end! It looks like herding cats on a daily basis.
Websters needs to re-define rookie to add the “following”: rookie,(ru-key)n,inexperienced, untrained,novice, “increasingly incompentent participants – see Obama Administration”.
graywaiter on August 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Exactly.
Or wanting a divorce.
Oh Mercy on August 24, 2009 at 11:15 PM
His “panel” releases the prediction today that 90,000 will die from swine flu. Then we see that it’s not really 90 but 30-90. 40,000 die from the flu every year anyway. This glaring headline is supposed to get everyone scared and want the Govt to DO something. Well, they haven’t managed to make enough vaccine yet. Imagine their running ALL the health care. On the same day he decides to prosecute Gitmo guys. At the same time he reappoints Benanke. Is this all to draw attention away from the deficit jump? Maybe Michelle can put on some shorter shorts and that will take over the news for 5 days.
Haunches on August 24, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Phase 1:
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: National security and profit!
CPL 310 on August 24, 2009 at 11:18 PM
What would you call a man who has accomplished or attempted the following…
-Wants to drastically cut the nuclear deterrent of the United States.
-Snubs long and traditional American allies.
-Befriends long and traditional American enemies.
-Wants to have a dialogue with terrorist nations and groups.
-Seizes large American companies.
-Plans to seize the American health care industry.
-Attended a gathering for over 20 years where hatred of whites and hatred of America was taught.
-Plans a major personal event out of a known terrorist’s home.
-Spent time in Kenya and was schooled in the Muslim religion.
-Stated that Hezbollah to Hamas had legitimate claims.
-Stated American troops air raided villages and killed innocent civilians.
-Encourages Americans to go into debt.
-Seizes financial markets.
-Stated the need for a national civilian security force funded as well and as strong as the military.
The list can go on and on,,
and now,, this man wants to prosecute Americans who acted to defend our nation. Americans whose actions saved our cities. Saved thousands of American lives. Men, women and children. Families and homes saved,, and this man wants to prosecute them for, in effect, defending America.
What should a man like this be called???
JellyToast on August 24, 2009 at 11:20 PM
So when the Obummer administration goes forward with investigating and prosecuting CIA members to distract the nation from the dismal performance with the bailouts the stimulus the cap and tax and health scare bulls and the untenable situation in afghanistan…
…who wants to bet that operatives within the CIA begin to leak information on Obama and his background?
We may actually get to see whats on that birth Certificate…
and what the hell he was doing in afghanistan during a war on his college spring break…
In fact i wouldn’t be surprised if we see Obama poull a Mayor Barry and get busted snortin on camera.
BillaryMcBush on August 24, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Anything he wants to be. No…, wait, wrong punchline.
CPL 310 on August 24, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Its obvious The One is desperate now, as he is pulling out all stops In an attempt to divert attention from Health Care. He probably is no more familiar with what these memos say than he is any of the various forms the health care legislation is in. It is just a desperate lob of distraction in the hopes the “anti-war hate Bush/Cheney” machine can be started up to drive some Health care across the finish line.
Koa on August 24, 2009 at 11:23 PM
On reflection, this is going to blowup in Barry’s face badly. The country is so riled up against him right now, they are going to seize on this almost as much as they’ve seized on Mugabecare. Fiasco. lol.
elduende on August 24, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Yes, how brilliant. Distracting us from a government program most Americans don’t want by announcing another government program most Americans don’t want. Smartest guys in the room, they are.
Jim Treacher on August 24, 2009 at 11:27 PM
They don’t have a lot to work with right now.
DaveS on August 24, 2009 at 11:29 PM
O/T: 8/25/2009: U.S. Chamber of Commerce seeks trial on global warming: The business lobby, hoping to fend off potentially sweeping emission limits, wants the EPA to hold a ‘Scopes’-like hearing on the evidence that climate change is man-made.
VibrioCocci on August 24, 2009 at 11:29 PM
They could try just doing their jobs as enumerated in the Constitution. LOL, just kidding.
Jim Treacher on August 24, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Yes! I agree!
BigMike252 on August 24, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Is it okay if the CIA wee wee’d on terrorists?
Obama is one pathetic piece of unicorn droppings.
profitsbeard on August 24, 2009 at 11:36 PM
lol
JellyToast on August 24, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Anybody think Panetta released these memos as a big FU to the White House?
rockmom on August 24, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Whenever Michelle breaks the toilet, does Obama still blame Bush?
TexasJew on August 24, 2009 at 11:46 PM
We’re watching a slow motion implosion of the White House here. I’ve never seen anything like it in 50 years. Obamageddon baby.
Mojave Mark on August 24, 2009 at 11:48 PM
…Now these are some intriguing possibilities…two can play the leak game…From your lips to the Almighty’s ears…
indypat on August 24, 2009 at 11:56 PM
I thought Spathi was a “mature” incarnation of getalife, until I read his/her post above.
mz.josephine on August 25, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Yeah, we’re supposed to be soooo sensitive to people who would murder their own kids for dating a non-Muslim.
MADgirl91 on August 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM
or this…
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198575.php
jbinnout on August 25, 2009 at 12:06 AM
It’s a direct result of his losing the “passion index”. He’s down below 30% again and losing his base. If that happens, he loses the ability to influence the “moderates” because he loses a lot of his voice as his base gets demoralized. This isn’t so much a distraction for the rest of the nation, it’s a sop to the code pink wackos and the rest of their ilk to try and get them to say good things about him again.
Fighton03 on August 25, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Spathi: Is the staff at the institution aware you are playing on the computers at night?
heshtesh on August 25, 2009 at 12:11 AM
“When the cloud of rhetoric has passed. When the roar of the crowd fades away. When the stadium lights go out, and styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot.”
“When that happens, what exactly is our opponent’s plan? What does he actually seek to accomplish after he is done turning back the waters and healing the planet?”
___Sarah Palin, September 3, 2008 @the RNC
This part of the speech starts around 25:50 into the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKgNrb3baNM
gary4205 on August 25, 2009 at 12:24 AM
EI works, Lives were saved. Terrorists defeated.
Cheney would like to say to the Left which despise him for this, “You’re Welcome”
Yakko77 on August 25, 2009 at 12:50 AM
If so, it’s Kryptonite to the Obama administration.
Why on Earth would they release them?
Thune on August 25, 2009 at 1:01 AM
FIFY.
Better now?
GrannyDee on August 25, 2009 at 1:03 AM
Hasn’t the military already dealt with this on their end with prison sentences?
Why does the CIA get to be above the law, but the military has to punish their people for doing it.
Spathi on August 25, 2009 at 1:07 AM
YES!
Koa on August 25, 2009 at 1:15 AM
1921 C DRUM on August 25, 2009 at 1:15 AM
Fugedabout seeing any of the redaction taken out of the redacated memos. This is the way big government works when they have to hide a smoking gun. I know, I was an investigative journalist for 20+ years. The powers that be use the lame excuses that it would endanger national security or identify an agent, but really there are plenty of ways to redact information to satisfy both the law of the land and the request for information equally. Barry and “justice” are covering up info that surely would exonerate the men and women and the methods they used to extract intelligence that did indeed save thousands of lives. Note to Obumma and Holder: We’re not stupid, you
A-holes!
Goldy1 on August 25, 2009 at 1:45 AM
I’m getting away with stuff left and right. I’m a war criminal you know.
hawkdriver on August 25, 2009 at 1:52 AM
Are you still around?
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 1:54 AM
No Cindy, I’m sort of oblong, but I’m alright. How are you?
hawkdriver on August 25, 2009 at 1:56 AM
I hate to appear to be fishing but do you know when packages arrive to your group?
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 1:57 AM
I sure do. I pick up anything that comes to the detachment that you send. I wrote you a nice comment about what the first one meant to us. Upinak has sent a nice one now too. Why do you ask?
hawkdriver on August 25, 2009 at 1:59 AM
I got the post about the last one, it was neat because it only took a week. I sent the last one over two weeks ago. I know there is no set time for arrival but it had some notes from the folks of HA.
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:02 AM
I hope the plans for your trip are going well and that y’all have a good time. It’s funny that I would be up right now, I was going to watch the shuttle blast off but I fell asleep. Then all of the sudden I wake up, the launch has been postponed and I get to talk to you instead.
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:06 AM
Cindy, I’ll be looking for it. We are so crowded here right now, I’m sure the postal service has been slowed way down. I’ll ask the Major if he might have picked it up already also. We open the boxes and put them out for everyone to take stuff from though, so I’m pretty sure he didn’t yet. I’m sure it’ll make its way though. (You didn’t try to sent ice cream bars again did you? They’ll probably have melted by now, :-) )
hawkdriver on August 25, 2009 at 2:07 AM
No, I seldom make the same mistake twice. I didn’t even send anything home baked this time because I am such a slacker. I sent a magazine for Fantasy Football. Are there any ladies in the group?
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:10 AM
No you’re not. You take care of the trolls over there. We’ll work on them here. Now please take very good care of yourself.
Loxodonta on August 25, 2009 at 2:12 AM
Well, I better hit the hay, I have an alarm clock to ignore in a little more than three hours. I hope you are posting on other threads so you get to talk to more folks.
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:13 AM
Well, I’m glad you woke up too. It’s good to hear from you. And yeah the vacation is going to be money. Gods honest truth is I wouldn’t last without a break. Even if it were just the insane flight schedule, day and NVGs, we were keeping it would be enough to break a lot of folks down. But we’re getting into a ton of engagements doing it and it wears on you. We flew for almost 8 hours straight yesterday and left most of the box we were operating in with smoking SUVs and bad guys baking in the sun. I need to get out of here for a while. It’s the most intense I’ve seen in my career and I wasn’t even supposed to be here. Remember, obama said no more stop-loss?
hawkdriver on August 25, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Hey, you, up late as usual? I am here by accident.
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:15 AM
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