CIA memos on interrogation requested by Cheney finally released; Update: Cheney issues statement

posted at 10:13 pm on August 24, 2009 by Allahpundit

Remember those? We’ve finally got an answer — sort of. Confirmed: Intel obtained from detainee interrogations helped stop terror attacks. Unconfirmed: Whether any enhanced techniques were used in the interrogations that yielded that intel. Result: Inconclusive.

We need to see the unredacted memos. How about it, Barry?

The Department of Justice is compiling a list of documents, to release later this evening, related to a 2004 CIA Inspector General report on enhanced interrogation techniques that was released today. The two documents that Cheney requested will be part of that release, but were made public early by the CIA.

One of the CIA documents, entitled “Detainee Reporting Pivotal for the War Against al-Qaeda,” and written June 3, 2005, says “detainee reporting has become a crucial pillar of U.S. counterterrorism efforts, aiding intelligence and law enforcement operations to capture additional terrorists, helping to thwart terrorist plots, and advancing our analysis of the al-Qaeda target.”

The report is heavily redacted and, at times, it is unclear which detainees are being discussed. At no point does the report describe intelligence gained as result of enhanced interrogation techniques.

The report says intelligence from detainees has resulted in the thwarting of terror plans.

Carl Levin did warn us in May that the documents say nothing about enhanced interrogation, only interrogation generally. But according to Republican members, the House Intelligence Committee was told at a closed briefing as recently as June that EI did in fact yield valuable intel, a leak that drew criticism — but not contradiction — from Democrats on the committee. The GOP’s also sending around a memo tonight quoting other intel documents released by the inspector general today that claim EI was successful. You can read the whole thing at the Standard but here’s a money bit:

• After the use of the enhanced interrogation techniques on the bomber of the USS Cole, “al-Nashiri provided lead information on other terrorists during his first day of interrogation.” pages 35-36, para 76…

• “Results from the first al Qaeda HVT interrogated using the aforementioned enhanced techniques, Abu Zubayda, have been outstanding. . . . This has ultimately led to some instances of the US Government being able to neutralize Al Qaeda capabilities worldwide before there was an opportunity for those capabilities to engage in operations harmful to the United States.” CIA Business Plan discussing RDI program, page 13, March 7, 2003.

Exit question: What’s Cheney’s next move?

Update: Exit question asked, exit question answered. Do the memos prove as much as he’s suggesting here, though? “Clearly demonstrate”? The “bulk” of intelligence?

The documents released Monday clearly demonstrate that the individuals subjected to Enhanced Interrogation Techniques provided the bulk of intelligence we gained about al Qaeda. This intelligence saved lives and prevented terrorist attacks. These detainees also, according to the documents, played a role in nearly every capture of al Qaeda members and associates since 2002. The activities of the CIA in carrying out the policies of the Bush Administration were directly responsible for defeating all efforts by al Qaeda to launch further mass casualty attacks against the United States. The people involved deserve our gratitude. They do not deserve to be the targets of political investigations or prosecutions. President Obama’s decision to allow the Justice Department to investigate and possibly prosecute CIA personnel, and his decision to remove authority for interrogation from the CIA to the White House, serves as a reminder, if any were needed, of why so many Americans have doubts about this Administration’s ability to be responsible for our nation’s security.


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Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:15 AM

I’m glad you had a chance to talk with hawkdriver, but am worried that you’re up so late.

Loxodonta on August 25, 2009 at 2:16 AM

hawkdriver on August 25, 2009 at 2:14 AM

I think you and I both knew he was full of sh!t from the beginning. Unfortunately 52% of the voting public couldn’t be convinced. I am sorry it’s so hard. Everything I have heard about the theater you are in now is daunting. I hope you are allowed to retire when you get home. Are you serious about looking into Texas like you mentioned on a thread?

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:19 AM

He’s down below 30% again and losing his base. If that happens, he loses the ability to influence the “moderates” because he loses a lot of his voice as his base gets demoralized. This isn’t so much a distraction for the rest of the nation, it’s a sop to the code pink wackos and the rest of their ilk to try and get them to say good things about him again.

Yup. But it aint agonna work, because he’s already betrayed their trust and they thrive on denouncing with bitter disappointment anyone who deviates from the party line.

YehuditTX on August 25, 2009 at 2:22 AM

Someone should ask Janet Napolitano with Homeland Security if the White House will have authority to interrogate detainees suspected of any perceived security threats to the country: like pro-life advocates; un-American, right-wing extremist, political terrorist, town hall mobster protesters; veterans or people who voted for Ron Paul.

HellCat on August 25, 2009 at 2:22 AM

Loxodonta on August 25, 2009 at 2:16 AM

The Shuttle was suppose to launch at 1:35 this morning. I was going to set up the telescope and watch from my back patio. I can almost always see it but it would have been a first with a telescope. Anyway, I was sitting in the family room trying to stay awake but I didn’t. I woke up suddenly and found that the launch had been postponed. So I sliced up the turkey breast I cooked, through it in the refrigerator and came to see how the evening finished on HA. And there was Hawk. Better then any old stupid Space Shuttle anyday.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:23 AM

Goodnight everyone. Sweet dreams.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:25 AM

Night Cindy, I’ll let you know when the box comes.

hawkdriver on August 25, 2009 at 2:28 AM

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 2:23 AM

How wonderful to be able to watch that from your patio. And then, to fall asleep instead, but wake up just in time to discover Hawk here. Life has an abundance of statistically remote coincidences. Which, coincidentally, is yet another statistically remote coincidence. Sometimes, it makes me wonder.

Loxodonta on August 25, 2009 at 2:29 AM

Remember kids: If the terrorists cut off heads and blow up ships and buildings, it is because the U.S.A. is belligerent and has broken the law. If the terrorists confess to cutting off heads, blowing up ships and buildings it is only because the U.S.A is belligerent and has broken the law. When a terrorist is released from U.S.A. custody and goes back to cutting off heads and blowing up ships and buildings it is because the U.S.A. is belligerent and has broken the law.

What’s the fuss?

shorebird on August 25, 2009 at 2:51 AM

If you think Obama’s approval ratings are bad now, just wait until we have another terrorist attack on the homeland due to his incompetence. Praying it never happens, but the odds of it happening on his watch are much higher than on W’s.

galvestonian on August 25, 2009 at 2:53 AM

No doubt they’re scrubbing their archives as we speak to stop Holder from probing them.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 a

Yawn, perhaps, but that’s not the archive Holder wants scrubbed

“Didn’t that [extraordinary renditions] happen during the Clinton administration? [They asked]

Yes, Holder said.
“How many did you approve?” they asked.
Holder said he’d check the record….”

DSchoen on August 25, 2009 at 5:45 AM

The same neocons that ran the Iran contra scandals during the Reagan years popped back up to the seats of power during the Bush years so this just proves that if you don’t do something about these people, they’ll pop right back up at first chance.
Spathi on August 24, 2009

OMG! WoW!
This is amazing!
I, just like you, have no idea what you’re talking about!

DSchoen on August 25, 2009 at 5:50 AM

Loxodonta on August 25, 2009 at 2:29 AM

We don’t wonder. We know, and wish everyone did.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 6:46 AM

What can be said about an adminstration who plays hardball with peaceful citizens but goes soft on terrorists who seek to destroy our entire society?

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil
who put darkness for light and light for darkness
who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”–Isaiah 5

Things are inside out and upside down in America.

Madness.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 25, 2009 at 6:50 AM

a reminder, if any were needed, of why so many Americans have doubts about this Administration’s ability to be responsible for our nation’s security.

Who the hell does Obama think he is to micromanage the CIA, to destabilize OUR intelligence community for pure show? The effect of Obama’s affect is our own national destruction.

Do the memos prove as much as he’s suggesting here, though? “Clearly demonstrate”? The “bulk” of intelligence?–Allahpundit

The documents released Monday clearly demonstrate that the individuals subjected to Enhanced Interrogation Techniques provided the bulk of intelligence we gained about al Qaeda. This intelligence saved lives and prevented terrorist attacks. These detainees also, according to the documents, played a role in nearly every capture of al Qaeda members and associates since 2002. The activities of the CIA in carrying out the policies of the Bush Administration were directly responsible for defeating all efforts by al Qaeda to launch further mass casualty attacks against the United States. The people involved deserve our gratitude.

Reading Is Fundamental

maverick muse on August 25, 2009 at 7:10 AM

If there is any justice in this world, the decision to go after these interrogators will come back and bite Obama on the behind.

BTW, if they can not get anything else right, what makes the Obama people think they can get interrogations right?

Terrye on August 25, 2009 at 7:18 AM

Loxodonta on August 25, 2009 at 2:29 AM
We don’t wonder. We know, and wish everyone did.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 6:46 AM

Cindy and Loxodonta – You two sound like two very caring individuals. I”ll pray for hawkdriver. ( :

yoda on August 25, 2009 at 7:29 AM

I have been thinking about this. If KSM is now a possible witness in for the special prosecutor, how can he be put on trial and executed for orchestrating 9/11? Isn’t it possible that the worst offenders in Gitmo now have become central to Obama’s witch hunt against the CIA?

rob verdi on August 25, 2009 at 7:47 AM

and KSM would be such a great, credible witness.

if bambi wants to distract us, he should pick something else. i thought he’d already tried this topic & lost.

kelley in virginia on August 25, 2009 at 7:55 AM


One GREAT thing about this country is we outlast Assh*l’s.
LBJ,Carter,Humphry,we even will outlast kennedy. We go into cycles with the left and when they finally do as much damage as possible we simply subvert them,make new rules and elect grown ups, get on with it. This time I see people in the streets and lots of riots because the left will fail to”Give” the loafers whatever they think they want. Watts will look simple compared to PHILLY AND MOTOWN.As far as an attack on our country the bastards have enough embedded cab drivers now to cause major destruction at many a US airport.Why they wait is because they think the one will continue to chicken out or send em some more released bombers to celebrate.Seems no one has been able to convince the afghan killers to hold off,maybe dipstick needs to have bs clinton drop in and provide Virgins or something. Stock up it is gonna be a long 41 months.

Col.John Wm. Reed on August 25, 2009 at 8:10 AM

Obama was looking for a distraction to the Healthcare Reform Debate and he picked another issue where the American people have an opinion contrary to his. Smooth move, Barry. I thought you were moving forward? Sic ‘em, Darth Cheney.

kingsjester on August 25, 2009 at 8:21 AM

I don’t like him one bit either, but he is President of the USA and should be addressed as President Obama, not ‘Barry.’

Sheerq on August 24, 2009 at 10:32 PM

That would require a modicum of respect. Lemme check here…no, not in this pocket…not in that pocket…no, that’s my..well never mind….

Nope, sorry, no respect here.

john1schn on August 25, 2009 at 8:29 AM

These detainees also, according to the documents, played a role in nearly every capture of al Qaeda members and associates since 2002.

maverick muse on August 25, 2009 at 7:10 AM

This raises an interesting point. Does the use of EIT early in a detainee’s experience influence all subsequent use of any interrogation techniques? I can see how it might; this might lead to an under-allocation of credit to EIT for eliciting valuable information.

DrSteve on August 25, 2009 at 8:32 AM

What’s interesting to me is the timing of this release with the news of the new interrogation plan of the fbi.

marklmail on August 25, 2009 at 8:34 AM

I don’t like him one bit either, but he is President of the USA and should be addressed as President Obama, not ‘Barry.’

Sheerq on August 24, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Nah.

I prefer Ogabe.

HondaV65 on August 25, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Cheney needs to become a father figure for Obama. Here’s a person that grew up with foreign nationals as weak father figures and was deserted by his African dad and white bread mom only to be raised by his lovely grandmother, whom he betrayed in order to get elected. His father figures were from armpit countries and he seems to have gravitated to very disturbed, racist, socialist, man-boy loving, pathological malcontents.

I think VP Cheney could set a good example by taking Obama under his wing and setting him straight. This will of course have to start by forcing Obama’s face into these reports while giving him a good paddling with a rolled up copy of the Bill of Rights, but that’s how the training needs to begin.

Hening on August 25, 2009 at 8:38 AM

I don’t like him one bit either, but he is President of the USA and should be addressed as President Obama, not ‘Barry.’

Sheerq on August 24, 2009 at 10:32 PM

You earn respect, one doesn’t “deserve” it.
The office has earned it, he has tainted it.
When we refer to the office of the President, it will be with honor…when we refer to Obama, it is with irreverence, as he is treating the office.
See the difference…office/person, they are separate entities.

right2bright on August 25, 2009 at 8:50 AM

What’s interesting to me is the timing of this release with the news of the new interrogation plan of the fbi.

marklmail on August 25, 2009 at 8:34 AM

And the fact we have had several “bombshells” while he was on vacation…starting with, deficit will be upped by a couple of trillion.

right2bright on August 25, 2009 at 8:51 AM

yoda on August 25, 2009 at 7:29 AM

Thank you so much. We are okay for anonymous folks on a blog. All prayer appreciated from a lucky nation for such men as hawkdriver.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM

I don’t like him one bit either, but he is President of the USA and should be addressed as President Obama, not ‘Barry.’

Sheerq on August 24, 2009 at 10:32 PM

I agreed with you until August 6th, when ‘my’ president told me to “shut up and get out of the way” for disagreeing with him on a domestic policy.

I will show him basic human respect, but if I don’t feel like referring to him by his official title, I won’t. Not after August 6th.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM

I posted several of the EI works links in a Lefty forum, oh yeah, they’re in full denial and dodge mode. Moral equivalence like you wouldn’t believe.

Yakko77 on August 25, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Haunches on August 24, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Exactly right; you knew fall swine flu predictions were going to have to be terrifying so the gov’t can come in and provide vaccines (may be safe, may be not) and show how we NEED gov’t run health care. It’s scare tactic.

Willie on August 25, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Awesome comeback by Cheney.

It is clear and emphatic. That kind of leadership is sorely lacking now that the ‘adults’ are in charge.

Amateur hour all day every day for this administration.

Anders on August 25, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Hening

Um, dream on. What makes you think Obama would accept any assistance from Cheney. Cheney would most likely give it, b/c he is a patriot and well-schooled in these matters, but Obama thinks he knows all he needs to and apparently feels he is far wiser than he is.

And Obama’s grandmother wasn’t “lovely” by my reading of her. She was a Communist sympathizer along w/her husband. They raised their daughter to be one too. She didn’t do a very good job w/either “Stanley” or Barack in my estimation. By allowing Barack to be around CPUSA member and pedophile wanna be, Frank Marshall Davis, I don’t think she did him any favors.

JAM on August 25, 2009 at 10:14 AM

My question; When will anyone in the DOJ investigate the ACLU lawyers for showing detainees pics of CIA operatives? Isn’t that an illegal move?

elclynn on August 25, 2009 at 10:16 AM

yoda on August 25, 2009 at 7:29 AM
Thank you so much. We are okay for anonymous folks on a blog. All prayer appreciated from a lucky nation for such men as hawkdriver.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Over the last year and a half–I have watched and read all of your converstions here on site, and especially the great interaction some of you have–particularly with hawkdriver. I was, and still am, praying silently for him and his fellow countymen/patriot soldiers.

I was on vacation, no computer, and was thrilled to see that he had been here last night (early morning).

Cindy, I am a great admirer of you and Loxodonta–and have taken his(Lox) advice to put plastic wrap over my keyboard for when I read some of your remarks! ;)

lovingmyUSA on August 25, 2009 at 10:44 AM

We are okay for anonymous folks on a blog…
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM

We may be anonymous, but in our hearts, we become friends.

lovingmyUSA on August 25, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I don’t like him one bit either, but he is President of the USA and should be addressed as President Obama, not ‘Barry.’

Sheerq on August 24, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Huh?

galvestonian on August 25, 2009 at 11:22 AM

EI works, Lives were saved. Terrorists defeated.
Cheney would like to say to the Left which despise him for this, “You’re Welcome”
Yakko77 on August 25

Perhaps he should!
It would put him on an ego level with the one!

Cheney’s answer to any questions should start with “your welcome”

DSchoen on August 25, 2009 at 2:31 PM

lovingmyUSA on August 25, 2009 at 10:44 AM
lovingmyUSA on August 25, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I am all misty eyed. HotAir has the best people ever and I consider myself honored to be amongst them. Welcome and I look forward to “talking” to you more.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2009 at 3:55 PM

boom, roasted.

grosven on August 25, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Typical FOIA released documents, though. I always wondered if they hired guys who censored GI’s mail during the Big One? They didn’t want the folks on the home front to even know their loved one in the service was still on the planet.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 25, 2009 at 8:52 PM

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