1200 vets mistakenly told they’re dying from ALS
posted at 2:55 pm on August 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Just as the Obama administration tries to reassure people that the government can manage the health-care system more competently than what we have now, one of its single-payer systems demonstrates exactly what we can expect from ObamaCare. The VA mistakenly informed 1200 veterans that they have amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), better known as Lou Gehrig’s disease, a 100% fatal condition. They blamed it on a “coding error” (via JWF):
At least 1,200 veterans across the country have been mistakenly told by the Veterans Administration that they suffer from a fatal neurological disease.
One of the leaders of a Gulf War veterans group says panicked veterans from Alabama, Florida, Kansas, North Carolina, West Virginia and Wyoming have contacted the group about the error.
Denise Nichols, the vice president of the National Gulf War Resource Center, says the VA is blaming a coding error for the mistake.
The notifications went out in a letter intending to inform ALS sufferers about the benefits available to them through the VA. At that time, one of those benefits was end-of-life counseling and access to “Your Life, Your Choices,” the booklet that refers veterans to the Hemlock Society when they feel life is no longer worth living. I wonder how many of these veterans were given the booklet?
By the way, that booklet has been removed from at least a portion of the VA website, according to David Freddoso:
Jim Towey wrote last week in the Wall Street Journal that Obama’s Veterans’ Affairs department had revived a controversial and previously discontinued 53-page pamphlet on end-of-life issues for wounded soldiers. The debate over what Towey calls the “Death Book” bodes so poorly for the president’s position in the health care debate that, after two segments on Fox News discussing the pamphlet this morning, the Department of Veterans’ Affairs has apparently pulled the booklet from one part of its website where it had been linked by several bloggers. (UPDATE: The document still exists in another spot on the site, as NRO’s Jonah Goldberg informs me.)
This certainly will have people feeling very confident in the ability of the federal government to issue diktats on medical care. Can you imagine what these veterans and their families went through before eventually discovering that the VA made a “coding error”?










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Your government health care at work.
tx2654 on August 24, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Death Panels is so last week. They will now be called coding errors.
lorien1973 on August 24, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Now that they found out it was a mistake I bet they consider themselves the luckiest men on the face of the earth.
LevStrauss on August 24, 2009 at 2:57 PM
It’s time to bring back castration as an “office motivator” on these Obama Federalis in the offices all through D.C. You either do it right……….or you’ll be singing at a higher octave……………
Cinday Blackburn on August 24, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Doesn’t ALS stand for Ayer’s Leftist Socialists?
Shy Guy on August 24, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Fools plaguing the government.
cubachi on August 24, 2009 at 2:59 PM
It is only 1,200 vets, we are through with them, we have no more need for them…look at the money we are going to save.
right2bright on August 24, 2009 at 2:59 PM
52% of the ballots in 2008 had coding errors too.
WashJeff on August 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Government-run healthcare = EPIC FAIL
Norwegian on August 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM
We are going to hell in a hand basket. If our government is not forced to make the same sacrafices as we as individuals are we are doomed.They get nothing right!
LennyV on August 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM
I’m a little surprised that the government didn’t just lie and tell the vets that a blue pill cured the ALS, rather than admit the mistake.
myrenovations on August 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Next headline: People that had ALS were accidentally recoded to something else as a result of this error.
LevStrauss on August 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM
I have no problem with the government managing my healthcare.
bloggless on August 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM
lorien1973 on August 24, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Zing!! Another winner! I really enjoy your posts. :)
jwolf on August 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM
The disaster of Obamacare in one simple example………
……… by all means, let us go ahead with it.
Seven Percent Solution on August 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Our president is a coding error.
People apparently believed that he wasn’t a complete idiot.
NoDonkey on August 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Does the phrase “Couldn’t find their butts with both hands if they had a map and a mirror” ring a bell?
mojo on August 24, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Maybe it was a coding error: “dth pnl”
It was intended to cull the herd, so to speak.
bloggless on August 24, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Jesus … this “single payer” is a political gift that keeps on giving to our side!
HondaV65 on August 24, 2009 at 3:02 PM
yup….now multiply this # times the general population….
our government overlords have done such a bang-up job on so many things we should obviously give them more power…
sven10077 on August 24, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Government wishful thinking.
bloggless on August 24, 2009 at 3:03 PM
This is one reason why the push for electronic medical records is a little scary.
zmdavid on August 24, 2009 at 3:03 PM
LevStrauss at 2:57 PM
Although this is not funny to someone who was misinformed, I had to laugh out loud at your comment.
Vince on August 24, 2009 at 3:03 PM
if(pill.cost > health.bill.page.896.limit)
….then goto :als)
….exit.
Shy Guy on August 24, 2009 at 3:04 PM
They indavertingly played their hand – first notify vets that they have incurable 100% lethal desease, than introduce them to the deathbook, claim it was a coding error later.
anikol on August 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM
And we all know how quickly the government can correct errors.
Sorry Mr.Smith, according to our records you had ALS and died 4 years ago. We can’t authorize you to receive any more blood pressure medication. But tell you what, just between you and me, when you die of a stroke from your high blood pressure, we won’t charge your widow for a second funeral.
DrAllecon on August 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM
I’m sorry, but you have E.D.
Oops.
blatantblue on August 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM
How about all the Vets exposed to HIV and hepatitis that was recently in the news! Why don’t they attempt to clean up the programs they are already running before trying to take on more? Those poor folks, that’s a grim prognosis, I can’t imagine the relief. What is a “coding error”? Is that from computerized records? It’s amazing what can happen when your hand goes off the home keys.
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Our cemetaries our soon to be full of “coding errors”
ted c on August 24, 2009 at 3:06 PM
our= are
duh
ted c on August 24, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Obama’s Healthcare Reform Plans are a National Coding Error.
kingsjester on August 24, 2009 at 3:07 PM
It’s right here.
MsUnderestimated on August 24, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Worse. We have 100s of coding error zombies roaming the streets of America this very moment!!!
Shy Guy on August 24, 2009 at 3:08 PM
This is too SNAFU’d to even laugh about. Why don’t lefties realize that this really is a normal situation when the gubmit runs anything?
Laura in Maryland on August 24, 2009 at 3:08 PM
I think I’ll opt out of getting a swine flu shot this fall. I don’t want to end up with cyanide flowing through my veins.
…. coding error, 50 million dead, details at 11:00
fogw on August 24, 2009 at 3:09 PM
VA Calibrated their diagnosis incorrectly.
NickelAndDime on August 24, 2009 at 3:09 PM
OMG. How could they inform 1200 people who don’t have an absolutely devestating disease that they have a devastating disease?
I have quite some experience with ALS, this is unbelievable to me.
ORconservative on August 24, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Everyone’s overeacting here. The VA telling 1200 vets they have Lou Gehrig’s disease was mereley inartful. Now stop being neanderthols and using scare tactics.
Matticus Finch on August 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM
ready day one
rob verdi on August 24, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Well if the VA says 1200 veterans have Lou Gehrig’s disease…then what does the Obama administration say the rest of us have?
FontanaConservative on August 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM
It’s not a coding error. IT IS A BLATANT DISREGARD FOR GOOD PRACTICES, ADEQUATE TRAINING, COMMON SENSE, RESPONSIBILITY AND CONSIDERATION AND COMPASSION FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN.
bloggless on August 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Wonder how long it took the VA to recognize their coding error,and did any vets give the Hemlock Society a call? We should ask if those making the error got a bonus, and wouldn’t this make a moving episode for Law & Order.
Kissmygrits on August 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Freekin’ Amateurs.
Expect mucn more of this crap
With Obamacare.
Haiku Guy on August 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM
ALS– 100% fatal except for Stephen Hawking in Britain! See, that’s why we need national health care here! And all our teeth will be straight and shiny too! No, wait…
Bat Chain Puller on August 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM
And here’s how you save money on health care.
Oh… did I say you had ALS? No no…that’s just old age… just take some aspirin and slow down a bit…
Skywise on August 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM
How cruel.
The governmental bureaucracy is barbaric.
Elizabetty on August 24, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Well if the VA says 1200 veterans have Lou Gehrig’s disease…then what does the Obama administration say the rest of us have?
FontanaConservative on August 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM
…a very real chance of losing our individual right to control our own life and death decisions.
kingsjester on August 24, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Are these red states?
Bill Ayers wants to kill 25 million Americans. FBI account:
faraway on August 24, 2009 at 3:15 PM
*applause*
FontanaConservative on August 24, 2009 at 3:15 PM
VA sez “My Bad!”
“You didn’t have ALS,
You’re just too darn old.”
Haiku Guy on August 24, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Liberals have no problem with the government managing their health care.
You know, after this latest mess, I have to agree with them.
I have no problem with the government managing the liberal’s health care either.
PackerBronco on August 24, 2009 at 3:16 PM
This is why Obama, Ted Kennedy, Pelosi, Biden, Fwank, Turban, Jackson Jr, Patches and the rest of the leader’s club will never, ever be subject to this health plan. It’s for the masses, not the royals.
Hening on August 24, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Wait… Health care and vets in the same story? Perfect time to drop this link!
http://sparks.brushfireoffreedom.org/post/2009/08/24/None-of-Your-Business.aspx
Starts with healthcare, then moves into gays in the military. Which is a heck of a trick. :)
TCJ on August 24, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Imagine how many otherwise healthy people O’CommieCare could whack…, cough, accidentally exterminate via typographical errors alone?
You can take the politician out of Chicago…..
viking01 on August 24, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Um, if you go to a doctor and the prognosis is for a serious disease, doesn’t the doctor usually have you come to the office and tell you to your face?
Is this what ObamaCare is going to be like: acknowledgment of your disease is going to be in the form of a form letter? Accompanied by an “End of Life Care” booklet.
rbj on August 24, 2009 at 3:20 PM
North Carolina isn’t.
ladyingray on August 24, 2009 at 3:20 PM
How is that a mistake? The more people that off themselves, the cheaper healthcare is for everyone else. That’s what the dems have been telling us all along.
Vashta.Nerada on August 24, 2009 at 3:20 PM
FIFY
Daggett on August 24, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Obama will be disappointed.
ohellno on August 24, 2009 at 3:20 PM
the post office of health care
rjoco1 on August 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM
I “echo” your sentiment :)
mikeyboss on August 24, 2009 at 3:22 PM
bloggless on August 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Absolutely correct. You would have to have people doing this job who had no brains in order to pull this off. What is staff doing handling such information that is so f…ing clueless.
I hope people realize how out of control outrageous this is.
ORconservative on August 24, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Is anybody getting tired of constantly seeing people’s yellow teeth on this site?
John the Libertarian on August 24, 2009 at 3:22 PM
When you’re told you’re going to die, you click into another paradigm.
I’d hate to think what damage has been wreaked by 1200 people walking around thinking they’re about to lose everything, when they in fact aren’t facing death at all.
MadisonConservative on August 24, 2009 at 3:22 PM
You gave me an idea. I would support a public plan under the following conditions:
1. The government could impose no restrictions on private insurance companies, hospitals, etc.
2. Government would have to build it own hospitals, hire its own doctors and staff to service the participants of it’s plan.
3. Could not use federal budget dollars other than loans for capital expenditures which would have to be paid back.
Let’s see how long it would be before the public enrollment would equal zero.
HoustonRight on August 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM
I wish I could tell you what my father, a WWII vet who died of ALS, would say if he heard about this.
But I can’t. This is a family blog.
Meryl Yourish on August 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM
The VA in Tucson told my family that my Dad had cancer. Six Mos later, we found they were wrong. Scared us to death. These people have no idea
Check out this cool video — Joe Dan “Silent No More”
deedtrader on August 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM
I was thinking the same thing…this sure sounds like a test run to me. Sounds like the Marxists are looking for a substitute for the Death Panels – sort of a self-serve, do-it-yourself Death Panel. Evil monsters!
redwhiteblue on August 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM
deedtrader on August 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM
I think you can stop advertising on every thread now.
kingsjester on August 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM
I wonder how many vets were coached by their Death Book to give up after receiving this news. Disgusting.
Christian Conservative on August 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM
What happens if, under ObamaCare, thousands of these letters are mailed out and nobody discovers the error?
faraway on August 24, 2009 at 3:27 PM
I remember everything about the day I first heard that my Mom would soon die from ALS. It was a day I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Thank God, theirs was just a coding error. These poor families – what a horrible day that must have been.
How on earth could the government bureaucrats be so inept and heartless?
This is just a glimpse of what our future holds if we don’t stop these ba$t@rds!
libertylady on August 24, 2009 at 3:27 PM
That is one very pathetic document.
Daggett on August 24, 2009 at 3:27 PM
No he doesn’t.
Shout it from the roof tops deedtrader! Obamacare could do worse.
shick on August 24, 2009 at 3:31 PM
The fed has proven time and time again that they cannot manage to find their asses with two hands and a map.
Does anyone think “cash for clunkers” was a success? Certainly not the dealers who aren’t getting paid…
Porkulus succeeded in what, exactly? Putting more people out of work by freaking out employers who are now hiding in fortified bunkers?
dogsoldier on August 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Union Gum, it’s pretty good.
jeff_from_mpls on August 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Doubt it. They probably mistook the ALS diagnosis for the correct diagnosis—like ED.
that’ll spark a revolt
ted c on August 24, 2009 at 3:34 PM
When you’re told you’re going to die, you click into another paradigm.
I’d hate to think what damage has been wreaked by 1200 people walking around thinking they’re about to lose everything, when they in fact aren’t facing death at all.
MadisonConservative on August 24, 2009 at 3:22 PM
I don’t even think the damage can be calculated. From the time the notices went out until the time they were notified of the mistake had to be the closest thing to hell a human can imagine.
fourdeucer on August 24, 2009 at 3:35 PM
We need a Code Blue on this legislation.
ICBM on August 24, 2009 at 3:35 PM
And the left keeps pointing to Medicare and the VA as OUTSTANDING EXAMPLES of government run health care.
The imbeciles who preach ‘single payer’ should be put on Medicare now!
GarandFan on August 24, 2009 at 3:37 PM
“I’m so lucky that I was beat on the head with that baseball bat because it felt so good when it stopped.”
Daggett on August 24, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Our government at work. blah This should show everyone that Obarfo’s healthcare will FAIL!
becki51758 on August 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Do not resuscitate.
zmdavid on August 24, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Not a Code Blue; this bill definitely belongs on the DNR list.
michaelo on August 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Well, if they weren’t depressed before, they sure are now.
When did this happen?
stenwin77 on August 24, 2009 at 3:57 PM
My dad had a biopsy done at the VA a few months ago. He got a form letter in the mail with his name filled in. There were two boxes: is or is not malignant. I know I was overflowing in confidence to see how they delivery a diagnosis.
TXMomof3 on August 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM
We’re from the government, and we’re here to help. That fatal disease we told you about last month, that was a mistake.
hawksruleva on August 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM
What a shame! The Hemlock Society sounds like such a neat club to join – so very welcoming – and now these vets will be less apt to take advantage of their hospitality.
Buy Danish on August 24, 2009 at 4:13 PM
And don’t you go “bearing false witness” against us by spreading lies about a coding error.
chemman on August 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM
“If you have a terminal illness, a mechanical ventilator will only prolong dying.”
- Your Life, Your Choices (p 35)
If you have a terminal illnesss, any treatment will prolong dying.
BohicaTwentyTwo on August 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM
If you eat dinner tonight, you are prolonging dying…
right2bright on August 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM
I just can’t wait until the Gubmint gets a hold of all of our records. We are going to put all of our information in the hands of these incompetent boobs???
Mr. Johnson, we have good news and bad news…The bad news is you have ALS, the good news is your pregnant.
Laura in Maryland on August 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Incorrect diagnosis telling you you’re going to die and oh, by the way here’s some nice suicide people, ooops it was a code mistake is OK.
If that vet messed up on his 1040…you’re in big trouble mister.
Jeff from WI on August 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM
So, they tell all these Vets they have this disease and put out the Death Book at the same time??
Is this how they plan on containing costs?
lonestar1 on August 24, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Why does Obama hate the military so much?
Or does he just have LIDS (Liberal Ignorance Disorder Syndrone)?
profitsbeard on August 24, 2009 at 5:19 PM
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