Video: Marine goes nuclear on Democrat over ObamaCare
posted at 4:48 pm on August 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
Via, er, HotAirPundit, red meat courtesy of the good folks who hijacked our last thread. The Democrat in question is Brian “Brown Shirts” Baird, thus the pounding he takes here is extra gratifying. Not sure I follow the Marine’s point about what right the feds have to tell him he can keep his insurance plan, though. Presumably he’s making a Commerce Clause argument a la Rivkin and Casey, but if growing weed on your own farm for your own use constitutes “quintessentially” economic activity, wouldn’t a program that affects 15 percent of the entire U.S. economy also qualify? If the public wants single-payer, hey — that’s democracy, red in tooth and claw.










Blowback
Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.
Trackbacks/Pings
Trackback URL
Comments
Comment pages: « Previous 1 … 4 5 6 7 Next »
You mean like
SenatorMrs Boxer from California?Jim708 on August 23, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Arrow through the heart! Masterfully done 708!!
Sweet_Thang on August 23, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Great video, well said. That is one awesome American Father. We could use a few hundred million of that man.
Sorry I’m so late to this thread.
ThackerAgency on August 23, 2009 at 8:22 PM
widdle boo boo (Precedent Obama has defined the level of discourse here with “wee-wee”)
ROFLOL.
+1000 comment of the day.
Be packed and ready to go. A reservation has been made for you at the Wee-Wee Re-Education Camp.
GrannyDee on August 23, 2009 at 8:29 PM
No, she needs other people to say it, to her face.
JeffWeimer on August 23, 2009 at 8:42 PM
No, she needs other people to say it, to her face.
JeffWeimer on August 23, 2009 at 8:42 PM
She needs white generals to say it,she gives black men a pass. She is a racist.
tessa on August 23, 2009 at 8:51 PM
And what, pray tell, have you done over the years of your libtard life to protect and defend the USA? Have you willingly volunteered to leave your home and loved ones, and put your life on the line so that we can live free in the greatest country on earth?
Free room and board when Marine Dave was still in active service? Hell yes, I’m more than happy to pay my share of tax dollars for that.
I’d rather see my money go to him and his fellow servicemen and women than to a bunch of slack-jawed, mouth-breathing idiots who have bought the liberal kool aid and let the gubmint take care of them all their miserable little lives.
Free medical care for a vet? You betcha, Sparky. That’s the least they deserve for defending our country.
So I repeat, SimpleSimon, what have YOU ever done to protect and defend the USA?
Tell us, quickly. We’re all on pins and needles, awaiting your answer.
GrannyDee on August 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Defend? From what? WMDs?? You watch too much Fox, grandma. Switch to Golden Girls and call it a night.
simplesimon on August 23, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Name says it all.
Simple, I am a servicemember and I protect you from all threats, foreign and domestic. I took an oath on it, and I take my oaths seriously. I say that not for your thanks or your pity or your snarkyness, just to let you know that I fight for you and your way of life. I don’t care if you disrespect me, for that is your right. However, I repectfully request you leave the elderly alone. They have more wisdom than you can fathom.
Aloha.
alohapundit on August 23, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Simple, as in moronic, pretty much sums it up.
Serving in the Marines is not the same as being a gas station attendant. It isn’t about getting respect and thanks. That you think it does indicates to me that 1) You’ve never served yourself and 2) you hate people who have if not the military in general.
The fact of the matter is that vets, especially those who have served in combat during these last eight years deserve to be respectfully heard. Their actions allow you to post your moronic thoughts.
highhopes on August 23, 2009 at 9:20 PM
I love it when conservatives get pissed. Bless them all.
rogersnowden on August 23, 2009 at 9:26 PM
GrannyDee on August 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM
That’s easy! It went to Berkley & works for GreenPeace, because absolutely no one one the left actually knows that when one joins the Military they take an Oath to Defend & uphold the Constitution. He was merely reminding Mr. Senator who can’t decide which party he wants to be in this week.
Ladywolfnl on August 23, 2009 at 9:27 PM
You’re nick suggests Hawaii, so you Navy?
JeffWeimer on August 23, 2009 at 9:38 PM
yes sir. Haze gray and underway.
alohapundit on August 23, 2009 at 9:40 PM
And the true colors finally come out. Bitter, much?
You lose this round. Mostly because you are so ignorant you can’t help but fall into the last resort of the uninformed – name calling.
Have a nice day.
JeffWeimer on August 23, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Don’t call me sir, I work for a living. And my parent’s weren’t related.
JeffWeimer on August 23, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Forgot to add – ATG Norfolk. Fire Controlman
JeffWeimer on August 23, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Straw man.
Argumentum ad hominem.
All bark. No bite.
GrannyDee on August 23, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Used to work for a living. Search and Rescue Swimmer CTR3. Went over to the dark side: Naval Academy. Remember my roots though.
alohapundit on August 23, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Smitty at the Other McCain is an up-from-the-deckplates ring-knocker too. He was an Aegis FC3 way back in the day (went to NAPS – now part of STA-21).
I started DS and crossed to FC when it disbanded in ’98. Picked up Senior Chief a couple years ago, but I’m punching out in a year. It’s a young man’s game, and I don’t want to do a 4 year 4th sea tour.
JeffWeimer on August 23, 2009 at 10:07 PM
I heard that. My best man at my wedding just made chief, and we’ve both been in 13 years. Came in in ’96. Congrats on making Senior. That’s a huge deal. Fair winds and following seas when you get out, you deserve it.
alohapundit on August 23, 2009 at 10:11 PM
I’m on vacation this week and went to see the Padres play today in beautiful San Diego. I got to applaud a whole host of young Marines as they marched through the concourse to go to their seats in the third tier. Everyone cheered and applauded.
Got to my seat and had the pleasure of sitting with a bunch from Yuma – most of whom were Marines, retired Marines, families of Marines. They were St. Louis Cards fans and even though I was for the Padres, I had the greatest time and was filled with pride even though I never served.
It was the best of days after listening to whiny liberals month after month after freakin month for the past 8 months.
Mr_Magoo on August 23, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Holy crap! Pin the puppy burnin’ to the mat! Get yer dic outta yer hand & respond, Congressman.
argos on August 23, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Thanks. Good luck in your career – looks like you’ve got good instincts.
Always listen to your Chiefs…
JeffWeimer on August 23, 2009 at 10:18 PM
OK everyone, I think Alohapundit’s and my threadjack is over.
JeffWeimer on August 23, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Absolutely.
*break*break*
Yeah, threadjack is over :)
alohapundit on August 23, 2009 at 10:28 PM
I have to thor the B.S. flag:
Here’s a section from a manifesto Hitler penned himself:
Replace the words “department stores” with Wal Mart and those words could have fallen right out of Obama’s mouth, or Pelosi’s, or Al Gore’s…
Hitler was a socialist in the same sense that modern liberals are, even if that’s an inconvenient truth.
Hell didn’t liberal Supreme Court Justice Ginsburg just admint that she originally thought abortion would be used to keep undesirable populations in check? Sounds like eugenics to me!
Woody on August 23, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Just…awesome.
MadisonConservative on August 23, 2009 at 10:35 PM
simple forgets we have a prez who has to stick a damn O logo on everything from a basketball to the dog leash. On day not so in the future everything stamped that way is going to make a great gag gift.
Marcus on August 23, 2009 at 10:38 PM
From things like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv4s3fn8jDc
Theophile on August 23, 2009 at 10:45 PM
And Hillary?
In the marine’s case it was appropriate regarding the oath to defend.
SimpleSimon you are one angry little troll. Deep down inside you have issues and that is quite apparent.
CWforFreedom on August 23, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Simple N Simon
N= Naive
CWforFreedom on August 23, 2009 at 10:49 PM
I don’t post here a lot, but I have a serious question. I’ve read through the first couple pages of posts and some of them mentioned AP’s stance in this matter which seems contrary to most of our beliefs. I know we (as conservatives) can’t agree on everything, but this healthcare debate seems like a slam dunk. I’d hate to have a repeat of what’s happened at LGF.
4k78 on August 23, 2009 at 10:55 PM
With great sadness…
Thanks, Theophile.
GrannyDee on August 23, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Pwned!!! +100
atheling on August 23, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Give them a taste of their own freaking medicine. For 8 years we lived with “Not my president” BS from the left. They never got over 2000. The media never did a good job of shutting down the rumor mill that Bush was behind 9/11 because it benefitted them. They wanted the image of Bush as evil to stay out there.
Now when good meaning citizens speak out against Obama and his Congress (apparently we don’t have separate branches of Gov’t anymore Congress just does what Obama wants) the Citizens are labeled by the media as evil, manufactured, etc.
F*ck em.
Bush went to war with Iraq in a post 9/11 world with intelligence primarily gathered by his predecessors and he is labeled evil.
Obama failed the United States by squelching the recovery with the passage of Porkulus and we are supposed to sit back and take it?
We don’t have hundreds of thousands of idle youths ready to go out and be professional protestors. We take time out of our lives and work days to fight Obama… and we are the ones supposedly manufactured and organized?
F*ck him and f*ck the horse this a$$clown road in on.
James on August 23, 2009 at 11:07 PM
It already has happened.
atheling on August 23, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Fascism is a totalitarian ideology. Totalitarianism is ALIEN to the US. We fought a damn war to rid ourselves of Tyranny. And Friggin GKing eorge the III was more benevolent than our current ruling class.
Tyranny rarely springs up from Libertarians because it is anti-Libertarian to be Tyrannical.
GET IT you dimwitted liberals. Your ideology takes you to Tyranny faster than the Conservative Ideology which seeks to CONSERVE the traditions and ideology upon which this nation was founded.
I am guessing most liberals in our nation who wee wee themselves every night failed US History or refused to read up on it. The only part of US History they have tangential interest in is in all of our blemishes (slavery, treatment of the natives, Vietnam) Beyond that they refuse to see how great a nation we became because of our FOUNDING IDEALS.
Now we have a TYRANT for president (he is because I say he is) who campaigned on the message of REMAKING AMERICA.
And what a job of it he has undertaken.
James on August 23, 2009 at 11:14 PM
“God Damn AmeriKKKa”
–Obama’s Spiritual Mentor
James on August 23, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Granny from wikipedia and it is fairly accurate:
In my previous post I was being a Smart Alec Baldwin. :)
alohapundit on August 23, 2009 at 11:25 PM
I don’t think it’s happened yet. Hopefully there won’t be mass bannings.
4k78 on August 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM
+1 Great post.
If I may, let me say something that I learned from reading the books of Czech novelist Milan Kundera. In his novels, the communists who dominated Czechoslovakia politically made it their campaign to get people to forget about the past and focus on the glorious future.
To comprehend what Kundera was writing about in “The Book of Laughter and Forgetting” and “The Unbearable Lightness of Being” about the communists his was one of the great realizations of my life: that communism (and leftism generally) leads people to at least mistrust, if not dismiss entirely, the lessons of human liberty taught by history. Communists relied on the support of those who, willfully or otherwise, blinded themselves to history to experience the thrill of undertaking the Glorious Revolution.
I see it all over again in Obama’s drive to “Remake America” — an initiative that encourages his minions to believe that the past is full of error and destruction, and that little or nothing of use is to be learned from America’s past. The past is dust and the children shall now lead us. The lessons of the Founding Fathers, old and moldy and forgettable.
We must fight against this dismal and deadly leftist ideology with all the soul, the heritage, and the spirit of liberty we can muster.
Edouard on August 23, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Liberal Brian Baird is the one to talk about Nazism. Baird and his liberal supporters are idiots and hypocrites.
First, I live in Seattle and most liberals are the biggest racists and antisemitic people I have ever met. Liberals talk of diversity, then exclude people of color from their liberal enclaves on Vashon Island, Bainbridge, Queen Anne, and Madison Park. They talk about how Republicans are racist, yet ban affirmative action in Washington, and actively seek to place their kids into high paying white collar jobs to the exclusion of other races (one only needs to look at the lack of racial diversity in the law firms in Seattle, including the federal and state government offices; 95% white is not very diverse, even by Alabama standards).
Second, what would Northwest liberals know about “lynch mobs”, I doubt any of them have ever met a black man, or a non-white person, period. Northwest liberals like to keep the minorities in Kent, White Center and Central. Just coincidence? Nope. Nearly all new Section 8 housing was built in those areas, but absolutely ZERO have been built in Vashon Island, Bainbridge Island, Madison Park or Queen Anne, even though the majority of low wage workers have to commute to those areas to serve the bourgeoisie landrover liberals.
ThomasB. on August 24, 2009 at 12:12 AM
It’s apparent that just like the Marine, you have no idea what Socialism is besides the misinformation you have picked up. Again, the ideal of Socialism is universal not national. Why were the real Socialist the first targets of Nazism? Try looking up Fascism and Socialism in the dictionary.
Bill Blizzard on August 24, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Well, coming from an ARMY vet, I can say that he has every RIGHT to take pride in his profession, whereas a sniveling, jealous weasel like yourself envies guys like us, who talk-the-talk, as well as walk-the-walk. If you weren’t such a jealous little bitch, maybe you would’ve told people what you did/do for a living, as opposed to carping about others’ achievements. You’re not half the man that a military veteran is, nor half the man that actively serves. In fact, you’re not even half the “man” those poor excuses for scum were that spat at returning Viet Nam Veterans. Every insult you take on this site will be well-deserved, I hope you know, and I can’t wait until you slip up that one time too many, and get yourself banned. Come back under another assumed identity, so you can be banned, again. Cowardly LOSER. With a name like Stupidsimon, we shouldn’t be surprised.
Virus-X on August 24, 2009 at 12:21 AM
When she was a young bride, my grandmother ran for her life from Communist controlled Czechoslovakia. I sat at her knee as a child of 10 and listened to her stories of living under Communism. All these many years later, I can still hear her voice and the horror of the life she lived in Czechoslovakia.
She would weep when telling me about the joy she felt upon seeing the Statute of Liberty when she arrived in America. And the day she became an American citizen was the greatest day of her life. How grateful and humble she was to be allowed to live in her new country.
My grandmother knew all about Facism, Marxism, Communism…call it what you will…and because of what she taught me, I could see right through Obama during his presidential campaign. And to see him rushing pell-mell to destroy our country is exactly what my grandmother warned me about.
She passed away a long time ago. If she were still alive today, how sad she would be to see her adopted country…the country she loved so much…being destroyed and ripped asunder.
Obama is a dangerous, evil man, and I’m beginning to believe he is mentally unbalanced.
His narcissism and sociopathic lying are more and more evident, and he’s showing signs of desperation. Desperate people do desperate things, and I fear what he may do to those who disagree with him.
GrannyDee on August 24, 2009 at 12:23 AM
…it’s not your right to decide whether I keep my plan or not…
BOO YAH!
What part of that is confusing? Meaning, in a free country, I GET TO DECIDE what my healthcare is going to be. Not the government. Not some bureaucrat, and not even by antoher group of voters that would think that singing Kumbyah together would be peachy.
FREEDOM
LIBERTY
CHOICE
For a party that has bitched about choice since 1973, it’s certainly freaking funny that they don’t want the rest of us to have a choice. Or is the only choice THEIR choice?
I love this guy.
‘STAY AWAY FROM MY KIDS’.
Yep, he speaks for me. Stay away from my kids, my personal life, my personal decisions, my wallet, my plans for the future, my retirement and the wallets/future/plans for my kids.
Get the hell out of my life. Government was meant to keep the peace and fix potholes. There is plenty to do in that arena. Not create some sort of system where we end up being indentured slaves for the duration because of some jackass’ good idea supported by people who believe in unicorns.
I’ve lost my patience.
GeeWhiz on August 24, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Small distinction? nationalist socialists and post-nationalist socialists? Global communism.
Defend it.
daesleeper on August 24, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Did Hitler give the citizens of the countries he conquered the means of production?
Bill Blizzard on August 24, 2009 at 12:38 AM
What did we learn about health care reform from the commenter’s
questionsstatements?Bill Blizzard on August 24, 2009 at 12:39 AM
And please answer this question:>
Why were the real Socialist the first targets of Nazism?
Bill Blizzard on August 24, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Bill Blizzard: Read Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg and you will see.
James on August 24, 2009 at 12:43 AM
National Socialism was still a Right wing movement.
If you look at the British National Party, supposedly extreme right wing, they are to the left of bother the liberal Democrats and the Labor party both.
They are almost like the Green Party on economic issues.
From the article:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright
Also Mises Institute has a good article on how the National Socialist movement and the Communist movement are identical in how the government functions..
Yet one was Right wing and one was Left wing flavor.
So government naturally grows and grows no matter who is charge. Even Reagan had a terrible record as president and left the country worse off.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Reagan had a fake drug war (and the CIA was running drugs in the background) and he liked to hype up government spending for the “cold war.”
Bush had a fake war on terror.
So we’re noticing a trend. This politicians like to make up bogus reasons for their own existence.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Ronald Reagan: An Autopsy
by Murray N. Rothbard.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Semper Fidelis! Hoorah!
RightXBrigade on August 24, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Is this article written by the marine in the video? If so, I hope the media gets him in front of a camera.
popularpeoplesfront on August 24, 2009 at 1:04 AM
A little history:
Other conditions fostering the rise of the Third Reich are civil unrest attributed to Marxist groups, the worldwide economic depression of the 1930s (spurred by the stock market crash in the US), the reaction against the counter-traditionalism and liberalism of the Weimar period, and the rise of communism in Germany, as reflected by the growth of the KPD, the Communist Party of Germany. Many voters, seeking an outlet for their frustrations and an expression for their repudiation of parliamentary democracy which seemed incapable of keeping a government in power for more than a few months, began turning their support towards the far right and far left of the political spectrum, opting for extremist political parties such as the Nazi Party. The Nazis offered promises of strong authoritarian government in lieu of effete parliamentary republicanism, civil peace, radical changes to economic policy (including elimination of unemployment), restored national pride (principally through the repudiation of Versailles) and racial cleansing, implemented in part by active suppression of Jews and Marxists, all under the banner of national unity and solidarity
Consolidation of power:
On the night of 27 February 1933 the Reichstag building was set on fire and Dutch council communist Marinus van der Lubbe was found inside the building. He was arrested and charged with starting the blaze. The event had an immediate effect on thousands of anarchists, socialists and communists throughout the Reich, many of whom were sent to the Dachau concentration camp. The unnerved public worried that the fire had been a signal meant to initiate the communist revolution, and the Nazis found the event to be of immeasurable value in getting rid of potential insurgents. The event was quickly followed by the Reichstag Fire Decree, rescinding habeas corpus and other civil liberties.
The Enabling Act was passed in March 1933, with 444 votes, to the 94 of the remaining Social Democrats. The act gave the government (and thus effectively the Nazi Party) legislative powers and also authorized it to deviate from the provisions of the constitution for four years. In effect, Hitler had seized dictatorial powers.
Over the next year, the National Socialist Party ruthlessly eliminated all opposition. The Communists had already been banned before the passage of the Enabling Act. The Social Democrats (SPD), despite efforts to appease Hitler, were banned in June. In June and July, the Nationalists (DNVP), People’s Party (DVP) and State Party (DStP) were forced to disband.
Bill Blizzard on August 24, 2009 at 1:07 AM
FIFY
Bill Blizzard on August 24, 2009 at 1:13 AM
Goldberg is a a big-government neocon who supported the Iraq war.
He also supports Bush’s war of terror. Why would anyone listen to him?
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 1:21 AM
Spathi is a Monarchist.
atheling on August 24, 2009 at 1:31 AM
Heh.
NathanG on August 24, 2009 at 1:34 AM
Why go way, way, back to the 1930′s plenty of that stuff around today. No history lesson required, just read.
“Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of,” said the Justice” Ruth Ginsberg
“When implemented, the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.”
Zeke Emmanuel
“A broad eugenics program would have to be formulated which would aid in the establishment of policies that would encourage able and healthy persons to have several offspring and discourage the unfit from breeding at excessive rates.” John Holder
tessa on August 24, 2009 at 1:38 AM
National Review had its origins as a CIA-talking points magazine so it has always been a semi-communist organization.
Buckley started to realize the danger that the neoconservative movement, which that he helped usher in, poised right before he died when he said we should not have started the Iraq occupation.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 1:41 AM
Operation Kickstart tomorrow.
The Fed is what allowed the Federal Government to both run the welfare state and start the Wilson-FDR wars all the way through Obama. Not that this bill will ever pass, but it’s good to have a counter message.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 1:43 AM
They are much more similar than different. They both gained control of the means of production – ostensibly for the people. It may have been different in details, but they were both broadly statist in intent and action.
Socialism and communism aspired to universality, but failed utterly to gain a foothold in any country other than Russia, evidenced by the failures of the first, second, and third internationals to foster socialism in the rest of Europe – until the von Ribbentrop/Molotov agreement (entered into 70 years ago yesterday as a matter of fact – see Skanderberg’s fascinating post at Redstate here), and solidified under the later Yalta and Teheran agreements near the end of WWII. World Socialism only grew after that haltingly – in China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam. but in each of those instances, it was it’s own unique version and sometimes antagonistic to the USSR.
National Socialism was designed as a response that wished to attract those predisposed to socialist ideals, and it did. It adopted much of the true socialist platform and implemented it – witness the glory of central planning that was the Volkswagen, for example. Everything was controlled, even mundane things like cosmetics. Though there were ostensibly private companies, they were executing the will of the Fuhrer, at his sufferance.
Nationalism was a powerful force back then – the second international failed due to the separate nationalist leanings of its members to their home countries. they fought against fellow socialists in the trenches in WWI. In the interim years, it served as a smoldering ember of resentment for the German people after the disgrace of Versailles.
As to why Hitler targeted the socialists first? Had a little to do with ideology (his business backers wanted suppression of unions, for instance) – but it was more a pure power play. It was for the same reason he killed Ernst Rohm and much of the SA on Kristallnacht – they were a threat to his power. Nothing more, nothing less. It is interesting that many of the SA were attracted to the group due to the nazi’s professed socialist goals.
I think the socialist label is a misnomer, myself. When we say “socialist” we mean totalitarian. Our experience with extreme socialism is the USSR – which in practice was a totalitarian oligarchy (party apparatchiks and special privileges, etc.), not true socialism. It is the same in effect as National Socialism was practiced.
So socialist = totalitarian. Think of it like that, and you’ll get the picture. And understand our fear.
JeffWeimer on August 24, 2009 at 1:46 AM
You make my point – power play.
JeffWeimer on August 24, 2009 at 1:58 AM
I see the trolls are out, dropping bait.
Nice concern-troll action in the first sentence, but many of us supported the Iraq war even though we had qualms about going in – if you’re in it, be in it to win it.
But what is that mess of a second and third? War of terror? On whom?
JeffWeimer on August 24, 2009 at 2:05 AM
Because they were competitors for which was the most statist. Rather like Shia and Sunni as to which is the most muslim.
MB4 on August 24, 2009 at 2:11 AM
JeffWeimer,
Well I think we created well over a million refugees in Iraq maybe a lot more and who knows how many we killed.
I think Hillary just created several more million refugees in Pakistan with her new policies.
I like to call it Bush’s war of terror. I think Borat coined the term, but it’s very fitting.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 2:26 AM
Most of the refugees and dead were Iraqi on Iraqi caused.
MB4 on August 24, 2009 at 2:31 AM
MB4,
Ya I bet. I guess we should have left Saddam in charge then so that didn’t happen.
The big mistake here is that belonging to a group (Al Qaeda) is not a crime. This was a law enforcement matter.
Instead Bush turned turned it into something worse than the so called war on drug of the Reagan years..
a new war of terror.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 2:37 AM
Also Al Qaeda does not = Taliban
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 2:38 AM
Spathi=Monarchist
atheling on August 24, 2009 at 2:50 AM
Would you have wanted to have lived under Saddam?
Al Q is at war with the U.S. With a lot of others too. If it is not a crime, why would it be a law enforcement matter?
I can’t make head nor tail of that one.
You have never heard me say that the two were the same.
MB4 on August 24, 2009 at 2:55 AM
As far as treating it as a law enforcement matter, we failed – 1993 WTC, 1996 Khobar Towers, 1998 Kenya and Tanzania, 2000 USS Cole. That, and we can’t enforce our laws outside the country – do you think free association is universal and enforceable outside the US? Belonging to a group is not a crime, true. But it wasn’t just BELONGING to that group. When that group murders thousands in their own admitted act of war, it no longer is a law enforcement problem – it’s military.
And AQ = Taliban when they harbor and ally themselves with AQ.
JeffWeimer on August 24, 2009 at 2:56 AM
JeffWeimer,
Ya except belonging to a group is not a crime. Bush abducted one U.S. citizen who was an American citizen who was a member of Al Qaeda and denied him habeas corpus that even Tim McVeigh got.
We have freedom of association in this country and freedom of speech to.
There is no reason why someone can not join the Al Qaeda.
By the way to you want the military abducting and torturing KKK members or right wing militias too? Some people think those are dangerous groups, and who maybe they are, but the point is that you have to actually do something before it’s a crime not just join a group.
Glen Beck joked about poisoning Pelosi last week on his show but he wasn’t serious. In order for it to be a crime, you have to go out and put the plan into action…as in Beck was buying cyanide to poison her not just blabbing.
Unless you want a thought police that is.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 3:06 AM
What about the mafia. I bet they’ve killed 1000′s over the years.
Maybe we should start abducting them too and putting them in Bush’s concentration camps and dark prisons.
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 3:08 AM
Spathi on August 24, 2009 at 3:06 AM
Janet Reno, Bill Clinton, and Waco, 50 something kids burned to death. Didn’t more people die in this lib disaster than died in New Orleans with the natural disaster that was Katrina?
tessa on August 24, 2009 at 4:43 AM
Give that Marine another medal. Outstanding!
RandyChandler on August 24, 2009 at 7:42 AM
This is very true. Take a look around and remember things as they are today. If Obama and the Dems succeed, America fails and everything,,, every single thing you do in your life will be worse and harder than it is today. But,, we will be repeatedly told that the crumbs we have then will be so much better than the steak we had today.
The other goal is to get you to forget about reason and logic. Obama says in his radio address that he wants nothing to do with getting in between you and your doctor. Then he goes on to list a number of mandates and regulations that will get in between you and your doctor.
Marxists attack reason and thought. Oppressors accuse their victims of oppression. The goal is all the same. To break the people’s will and to crush their spirit. To control and to destroy while elevating themselves as gods. A marxist nation is nothing but a giant prison. And prisoners must not think about things like freedom,, no, prisoners must think about their crimes.
JellyToast on August 24, 2009 at 7:57 AM
simplesimon
I am aware that you are fundamentally unable to respect anyone who is not a follower of Marx. But at least have some self respect, and not post like a brain damaged cretin.
Slowburn on August 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM
JellyToast, good. Crumbs as steak, only by the miracle of Obama’s antipathy. The misery loves company relativity quotient.
maverick muse on August 24, 2009 at 8:03 AM
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Harry Reid is far behind any Republican challenger at the moment. But the gist remains, Reid’s own $25million funds combined with the DNC forces and the Hispanic/Democrat unions will make his defeat very difficult.
maverick muse on August 24, 2009 at 8:07 AM
Crush some ACORNs, mix with defanged union goon, serve on burnt Reid toast.
Yoop on August 24, 2009 at 8:16 AM
Slowburn on August 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM
Anyone who chooses that identity hasn’t even a penny to his name, and expects everyone else to provide life’s services for him without charge. Free pie for the asking. And when that sort congregate to populate “it takes a village”, do recall Pinocchio’s experience in their town of convoluted rogues.
Pinocchio is robbed of his gold pieces and, in punishment, is sentenced to four months in prison.
Socialism breeds Simple Simons, the ACORN and union thug workers of corruption whom the convoluted Harry Reid inadvertently typed as evil mongering.
maverick muse on August 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM
Interesting isn’t it, how during the summer and fall of ’08, when it was clear that The Messiah was going to occupy the WH, there wasn’t a troll here to be found.
Now that The Messiah has tanked, and the nation is horrified that it handed carte blanche to the Corruptocrats, the trolls are swarming.
As if trolling here is going to save these losers. Now, that is stupid.
shaken on August 24, 2009 at 8:42 AM
The description of Freemasonry is accurate but including it in any discussion of the Illuminati or of secret societies is incorrect. Freemasonry is not in any way connected to the Iluminati and it is not a secret society. The primary goal of the Illuminati was the destruction of religion, especially Christianity. One of the primary tenets of Freemasonry is the unfettered freedom to practice the religion of your choice.
Adam Weishaupt lied his way into a lodge in Bavaria and recruited a few members into his fledgling order. It then spread and coopted other lodges in Bavaria. The order was outlawed and disbanded in 1785 and the coopted lodges were disbanded. The Order of the Illuminati spread throughout Europe before it was crushed but it never infected English or American Freemasonry or any lodges outside of Bavaria.
single stack on August 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Ouch that hurts my sweet tooth. Truly red dripping meat. I expect to hear that clip played on a loop on AM radio. (as it should be)
bigskinny on August 24, 2009 at 9:44 AM
oooh Rah
Semper Fi
AASLT on August 24, 2009 at 9:47 AM
PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN,GOD BLESS THE MARINES
easyone on August 24, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Comment pages: « Previous 1 … 4 5 6 7 Next »