Obama: This irresponsible talk of “death panels” offends me

posted at 2:00 pm on August 22, 2009 by Allahpundit

I can’t decide which part I like best. The ode to “vigorous debate” from a guy who wanted a bill rammed through Congress before the recess? The tut-tutting about divisive rhetoric from the leader of a party that’s spent the past month demagoguing its opponents as evil-mongering political terrorists? Or the demand from Captain Deficit that we stop putting off until tomorrow the big problems that need solving today?

Actually, this part’s my favorite. From the man who famously told the AFL-CIO in 2003 that he was a big proponent of single-payer:

We’ve all heard the charge that reform will somehow bring about a government takeover of health care. I know that sounds scary to many folks. It sounds scary to me, too. But here’s the thing: it’s not true. I no sooner want government to get between you and your doctor than I want insurance companies to make arbitrary decisions about what medical care is best for you, as they do today. As I’ve said from the beginning, under the reform we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. Period.

Totally true. And if that private plan you like so much ends up going under because it can’t compete with Uncle Sam’s bottomless pit of taxpayer funding, hey. Exit question: Does he really think running through the same stale talking points week after week is finally going to change the public’s attitude about this? As Fred Barnes notes, this day-in day-out garbage about keeping your plan, etc, has practically devolved into shtick at this point. It’s almost as if he can’t quite believe people might disagree with him, and that if only he keeps repeating himself, eventually his shining logic will seep into their brains. Hmmmm.

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This irresponsible talk of “death panels” offends me

Not as much as the legislation of death panels offend me.

jgapinoy on August 22, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Sir, this irresponsible bankrupting of my nation offends me.

jimmy2shoes on August 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Let’s see. Will ObamaCar work out link transparency in government, not hiring lobbyists and all the other promises Obama broke?

bw222 on August 22, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Socialism offends me…

paragon27x on August 22, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Hey, let’s debate!

As he runs from DC…

artist on August 22, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Now the tea-bagging, racicst clingers are just wee-weeding my administration up.

–Barack ‘The Won Barry Soetoto The Messiah’ 0bamba

Wolftech on August 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Inept.

trigon on August 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

From a New York Times interview (via Kaus):

LEONHARDT: And it’s going to be hard for people who don’t have the option of paying for it.
THE PRESIDENT: So that’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that’s also a huge driver of cost, right?
I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here.
LEONHARDT: So how do you – how do we deal with it?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that there is going to have to be a conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists. And then there is going to have to be a very difficult democratic conversation that takes place. It is very difficult to imagine the country making those decisions just through the normal political channels. And that’s part of why you have to have some independent group that can give you guidance. It’s not determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance. And that’s part of what I suspect you’ll see emerging out of the various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now.

Realist on August 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

There are lies, damn lies, and calculated lies such as the president makes on healthcare. So much for the moral high ground.
Randy

williars on August 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

I thought Jesus was on vacation? Note to Obama… STAY OFF MY TV FOR A WEEK, okay?

/putz

Key West Reader on August 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Up or down , baby..

the_nile on August 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Isn’t this tool supposed to be on vacation?

JammieWearingFool on August 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Hey Barrack, No one believes you anymore. Meaningless lies just come out of your mouth. You need a 12 step program and need to repent and beg for forgiveness. Until that time, your words are white noise.
PS You are not really that bright, as you have no idea what the American people value.

tessa on August 22, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Can’t this headline grabbing egomaniacal hack just STFU and go on vacation already??

Sweet Jesus he’s everywhere 24-7…I need a break!!!!

Tim Zank on August 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Ogabe offends me.

1921 C DRUM on August 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM

The folks at media matters will believe his schtick. That means they are credible. /s

aikidoka on August 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Offended you say?!?! Cry me a river. Reminds me of a childrens story……
“And this little piggy cried wee wee wee all the way home.”

proudteadrinker on August 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Obama is obviously scared of Palin.

His form of debate is where people agree with him.

cubachi on August 22, 2009 at 2:11 PM

If you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. Period.

False.His lying offends me.HSAs will be eliminated in Obamacare.(Duke Univ. Professor’s reading of the bill) I like my HSA with catastrophic insurance rider. It is perfect for us. I don’t need some plan that you think is “better for me.” I stopped needing a Mommy a long time ago.

Beaglemom on August 22, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Sorry, mr.president, but when you, again, align yourself with people who possess detestible traits and then select them as czars, we make certain assumptions about your intentions for this country.

pjean on August 22, 2009 at 2:12 PM

I think there’s a guy I used to read that calls that double speak. Or the big lie. Either one.

The Calibur on August 22, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Everything Osama Obama says, does or tries to do offends me.

MrScribbler on August 22, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Obama lies.

About everything.

2010, then impeachment. It has to happen.

Rebar on August 22, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Well now we’re even because you offend me with your values, beliefs and pretty much everything you stand for

gophergirl on August 22, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Where is Christopher Buckley these days?

heh

artist on August 22, 2009 at 2:13 PM

I love the screen shot. He looks extremely constipated!

JAM on August 22, 2009 at 2:14 PM

This tool is offending America!!

christene on August 22, 2009 at 2:14 PM

HE offends me. Having an anti American socialist fascist as president offends the hell out of me. Liberals that refuse to think offend me.

Spiritk9 on August 22, 2009 at 2:14 PM

The sound of Obama sinking into the quicksand he’s created around this issue, “But you can keep your doctor…muffle, gasp, burp.”

Dee2008 on August 22, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Somewhere Josef Goebbels is smiling….

drjohn on August 22, 2009 at 2:14 PM

insurance companies to make arbitrary decisions about what medical care is best for you

This is false, the insurance company only makes a determination of what is covered under your plan, it does not decide what medical care is right for you.

free on August 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM

I want insurance companies to make arbitrary decisions about what medical care is best for you, as they do today.

Bullsh*tter in Chief.

Key West Reader on August 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM

…arbitrary decisions about what medical care is best for you, as they do today.

They do not make arbitrary decisions. Government does that. But if they did,, thanks anyway, we can handle it.

JellyToast on August 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Poor little Barry is offended?

Well, grow a pair and cowboy up, buttercup.

Russ on August 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Time to reprint “The Bell Curve”.

TexasJew on August 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM

than I want insurance companies to make arbitrary decisions about what medical care is best for you, as they do today. As I’ve said from the beginning, under the reform we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. Period.

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR and LIAR. Period.

Marcus on August 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Obama’s constant lies offend me! Do not touch any part of health care or anything else of importance while this corrupt administration and congress are in power.

allrsn on August 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Here’s the part I don’t get. Anyone who watches weekly addresses follows politics. Anyone who follows politics has already seen him on video saying all that stuff that deeply offends him.

So how is he the gainer by doubling-down by contradicting himself? No snark, I don’t get it.

Spirit of 1776 on August 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM

100 years.

baldilocks on August 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM

But here’s the thing: it’s not true. I no sooner want government to get between you and your doctor than I want insurance companies to make arbitrary decisions about what medical care is best for you, as they do today.

I don’t know if that is true. Insurance companies policies are set by medical professionals and there is a course for redress. Not so much with the Barry’s special deals with the industries.

bloggless on August 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Well, grow a pair and cowboy up, buttercup.

Russ on August 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM

He is quite the delicate flower isn’t he?

Key West Reader on August 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Quit Wee-wee’in Barry.

portlandon on August 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Imagine that…he finds our lack of faith disturbing.

29Victor on August 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Liar Liar Pants on Fire.

Now go wee wee on yourself Mr. Precedent before you get burnt.

Knucklehead on August 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM

A big hint about Barry’s attitude might have been derived from his comment to the college kid who questioned him about the economic of “His” plan. As you may recall, Barry responded: “That took a lot of chutzpah”.

No one is to question THE ONE. The arrogant bastard. It will get worse as he finds he’s being tuned out more and more and that no one is buying his shtick.

GarandFan on August 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Kinda like the Death Panels thing. If the term does not escape his lips, then it must not be true. They really do think we are STUPID!

bloggless on August 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Stop lying, Obama. That offends me. The death panels are already in your stimulus bill that has passed. You’re just increasing it further in the so called healthcare bill.

Also, you always told us when we questioned your experience to look at those you surround yourself with. Ok, let’s do that….Holdren, Susstein, Singer, Ezekial Emanuel, Hacker of the Tides Organization and Van Jones…all advisors and mentors. How about the QALY and complete lives system they believe in (AND YOU DO TOO OBAMA)? How about the IMAC panel that’s in the bill? Peter Orzag, your advisor says that’s a key part.

We are in dire trouble with your health power grab. Much worse than we think too.

TriciaNC on August 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Mr. President,yes, the one who bears false witness to us daily, you offend me.

mobydutch on August 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM

He is quite the delicate flower isn’t he?

Key West Reader on August 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM

And a charming liar according to Air America.

Knucklehead on August 22, 2009 at 2:20 PM

No, Barry, here’s the thing. America is on to you, Big Time.

bloggless on August 22, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Would the government have paid for Obama’s nose job under Obamacare?

flyfisher on August 22, 2009 at 2:20 PM

I don’t know if that is true. Insurance companies policies are set by medical professionals and there is a course for redress. Not so much with the Barry’s special deals with the industries.

bloggless on August 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Back in the early days of HMO’s there WAS an issue with insurance companies butting into health care decisions. But that crap ended what, 20 years ago? The carriers do not dictate what care you can or should have, nor can they deny benefits unless they are explicitly excluded in the policy itself. If they do deny care that is covered they get nice big fat lawsuits.

Key West Reader on August 22, 2009 at 2:21 PM

“Dat’ deah cracka be dissin’ me.”

– Official White House Press Release

viking01 on August 22, 2009 at 2:21 PM

I hope President Obama is on television 24/7 advancing his health care initiative just as effectively as he did in this video. This is the best way to ensure we achieve the real reform our country so desperately needs. On November 2, 2010.

Loxodonta on August 22, 2009 at 2:22 PM

“It has never been easy, moving this nation forward. There are always those who oppose it, and those who use fear to block change.”

No Barry, it hasn’t. Maybe you should try first.

Folks this is about godhead and not health care. This is about Rushmore, memorials, and future ‘required reading’.
This is about HIM teaching those folks on the side of that mountain just where they went wrong and how he was the one to set it right. He is on a mission of legacy. He absolutely knows what is best. Move over Lincoln. Sit down Jefferson. Make George and Teddy scratch their chins.

Dear Mr. Barry,

Send your stone cutters home.

Limerick on August 22, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Imagine that…he finds our lack of faith disturbing.

29Victor on August 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM

I find his lack of humilty disturbing. So we’re even.

Lurking Vet on August 22, 2009 at 2:22 PM

That DEATH PANEL label really got into Barry’s psyche. I’m sure he wakes up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat thinking:

THEY KNOW.

Just when you thought it was safe to push your socialist agenda……Fort Wasilla attacks without warning.

portlandon on August 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM

HE’s offended! We are the ones who are offended!

Christian Conservative on August 22, 2009 at 2:24 PM

“this is the moment”…that we saved our country, our constitution, and our bodies from the ultimate advancement of soft tyranny and socialism

doctor horton on August 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM

As I’ve said from the beginning

He always seems to be trying to convince us that he`s been consistent. I believe he knows most don`t feel he`s ever been consistent.

ThePrez on August 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Lesson to learn is that sometimes telling a lie often enough still remains just a lie. Sucks to be him.

moonsbreath on August 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM

And this little president went…
“Wee wee wee” all the way home.

SlaveDog on August 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM

What really offends Dear Leader is the fact that this bill was not passed three weeks ago.

d1carter on August 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Is there a word for pouring napalm on your political capital and setting it ablaze?

I feel there is this gaping hole in the English language.

jhffmn on August 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM

And Obama we we weed all the way home!

MCGIRV on August 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Does Obama find talk of forced abortions offensive? What about talk of sterilants in the drinking water, is that offensive? If so, then why was John Holdren made the Science Czar?

Watcher on August 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM

He needs to take his toys and go home. We don’t wanna play.

bloggless on August 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM

I no sooner want government to get between you and your doctor than I want insurance companies to make arbitrary decisions about what medical care is best for you,

He no sooner wants government to get between you and your doctor than he wants government to take over GM.

MayBee on August 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM

I thought Jesus was on vacation? Note to Obama… STAY OFF MY TV FOR A WEEK, okay?

/putz

Key West Reader on August 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

+1

Palin’s little “DP” nugget continues to score points, to my great amusement. But I’m betting he’s just milking the “death panels” to avoid responding to her latest volley about tort reform. He’ll never utter that phrase.

I’m having a little fantasy, hoping for a direct hit on Martha’s Vineyard by Bill the Hurricane. Imagine the aftermath, the flooded parking lot full of stretch limousines left idling, the Opera House swarming with the wandering homeless elite, without Evian water, sushi, lobster, Kobe Steak, power, golf or working toilets, the stories of the living feeding off the dead…ohhh the humanity!!!

…well a man can dream, can’t he?

ornery_independent on August 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM

If you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan.

The biggest lie of all of his lies.

Ex-Dem on August 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM

The people who voted for you are finding out that being President was above your pay grade afterall.

moonsbreath on August 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM

If it isn’t about you, MR. President, how can you be offended?

fourdeucer on August 22, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Would someone please tell him the animals have left the circus tent and the audience is filing out?

Really, mr. president? Really??

LEBA on August 22, 2009 at 2:29 PM

As I’ve said from the beginning, under the reform we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your private health insurance plan, *you can keep your plan. Period.

* For a limited time only. Restrictions apply.

ddrintn on August 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM

He just can’t come to grips with the fact that Americans are just not believin’ him.

And by the way, what happened to all that gray hair you had just yesterday?

IrishEi on August 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Question:
Have you hugged a trial lawyer today?

d1carter on August 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Awesome. We got a beta-male for a president. I hate people who get offended.

Johnson on August 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM

No 0bama, let me be clear as I’ve said from the beginning, you are a p—y and Palin has b@lls. Now go enjoy your hurricane drenched vacation at Versailles, err I mean Martha’s Vineyard,

Lou Budvis on August 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Beaglemom on August 22, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Well said.

clorensen on August 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM

If so, then why was John Holdren made the Science Czar?

Watcher on August 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Or good old Zekey Emmanuel and his talk of rationing care against non particating citizens. The nerve of these eggheads to deem to know what is best for us and our families. They are the scum of the earth

tessa on August 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Death Panel = Manmade Expiration Consultants

moonsbreath on August 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM

I wish Hurricane Bill would carry that tool out to sea.

txag92 on August 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM

From Iowahawk
U.S. Government Unveils Health Care Partnership With God Inc.

Without satire, I don’t think I could survive.

zmdavid on August 22, 2009 at 2:32 PM

txag92 on August 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Careful or a Federal goon squad will be on your doorstep.

flyfisher on August 22, 2009 at 2:33 PM

If you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. Period.

I’ve found this to be one of the biggest lies of this whole plan and it’s based on a single piece of logic:

My employer controls my health care provider. I don’t.

I’m at the mercy of my employer, as are most Americans. So with or without this health care overhaul, I have to go with what my employer provides.

And I work for the state. I can assure you that I will be on the public plan if it gets passed.

therightscoop on August 22, 2009 at 2:33 PM

OK I know he’s a LIAR. OK I know we CANNOT Trust him. But now I’m at the point – is this jerk nuts? He may be certifiably insane……………we’re screwed………..

Cinday Blackburn on August 22, 2009 at 2:33 PM

“It has never been easy, moving this nation forward. There are always those who oppose it, and those who use fear to block change.”

Didn’t Hitler say about the same thing in the thirties?

MB4 on August 22, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Awesome. We got a beta-male for a president. I hate people who get offended.

In retrospect, him getting irritated with Dowd making fun of his ears was telling.

Spirit of 1776 on August 22, 2009 at 2:33 PM

His arrogant “you can keep your health insurance” is offensive. Who is he to tell the American people what we can keep and cannot keep? This Marine sums it up best, as he blasts a Congressman at a townhall about this “you can keep your health care”, among other things:

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/

yogi41 on August 22, 2009 at 2:34 PM

9 Trillion in debt offends me

Wade on August 22, 2009 at 2:34 PM

BO! I find you highly offensive.

BetseyRoss on August 22, 2009 at 2:34 PM

He assumes that ObamaCare would “move the country forward.” I do not believe his assumption is correct.
__________

RJGatorEsq. on August 22, 2009 at 2:34 PM

I thought that wee-weed barry was on vacation. Guess that he couldn’t stand being around big MO so he had to lie to us some more. STFU barry!!

farright on August 22, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Take the video that was used for the shaded area and place it next to his promise not to take over the auto industry and see what people think.

djaymick on August 22, 2009 at 2:34 PM

You and your ideology offend me!

ohiobabe on August 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM

BHO (pronounced ‘boo-hoo’) is offended?

Welcome to the pale, F-er. Be as offended as you want.

You’re more offensive than a straight guy in a gay bar trying to pick up a pair of lesbians.

Liam on August 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM

What a monumental ego this jerk has.

He really DOES think the majority of Americans are dumb as rocks. In truth, only the liberals that hold their ignorance dear are the ones that are dumb as rocks, and so is he for believing that we’re so ignorant we can’t see all these glorious benefits of socialist fascism. Benefits for HIM that is.

He and his liberal idiots keep on the death panel thing as if Americans really believed there would be a panel, like a panel of judges, sentencing people to death. What an idiot. Everyone knows that it’s simply denying care for cost that MAKES the government a ‘virtual’ death panel, and his talk of fear mongering on the right at the same time he uses that term ‘death panel’ just illustrates his stupidity and deceit to all Americans with even half a brain…which leaves out liberals, of course.

Spiritk9 on August 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that there is going to have to be a conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists.

Realist on August 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM

The patient is not part of the conversation. They decide – not you.

Blake on August 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM

I find it odd that Obama bin Biden thinks himself a moral/ethical authority on anything.

TTheoLogan on August 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM

No the words Death Panel are not and will not be in the bill.

We are smart enough to realize what will happen if governments becomes even more involved in health insurance and health care.

CWforFreedom on August 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM

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