Does pointing this out count as a “myth” or is it merely a “distraction”? I can see how the left might want to hold back “myth” for yes/no questions where they’re demonstrably wrong and need to overcompensate. Under that……

They got around the Hyde amendment by saying premiums only will be used to pay for abortions.

AnninCA on August 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM

What a crock. Whether the funds come from Uncle Sam’s right pocket or left pocket or from his front pockets or his back pockets or even from the smelling, wilted bills he keeps in his shoes, it’s financed by tax dollars.

BuckeyeSam on August 22, 2009 at 11:58 AM

They attempt to nuance their way around this by clinging to their fantasy assertion that the “public” option will be a non-subsidized entity, one that ‘competes’ with existing plans without receiving any net government funds.

In their minds, that provides a firewall of sorts that they can use as the basis for the claim that the government is not funding abortions in violation of the Hyde amendment, and instead that it is the self-contained system of premiums for the “public option” which will fund these activities.

Now, sane individuals (and I’ll include the CBO in that category) recognize that this claim of non-subsidy and the public option “standing on its own” is a complete whole-cloth fabrication. It won’t happen.

The claim that the public option will have taxpayers subsidizing abortion is simply an artifact of not believing the President’s rhetoric about the self-sustaining, subsidy-free nature of the public plan.

Or, in medical terms, these claims are manifesting due to an acute Kool-Aid deficiency. I’m sure IMAC will recommend best practices to eliminate this obvious and tragic health-care crisis.

Rob

So now that Factcheck.org said it, will you believe it? The House leadership’s bill (H.R. 3200) actually made no mention of abortion when it was introduced. Johnson refers to an amendment to the bill adopted by the House Energy and……

I don’t know, if the government pays for abortion, doesn’t it lessen a woman’s human sacrifice gift to Satan?

Jeff from WI on August 22, 2009 at 9:59 AM

No, Satan doesn’t care how he gets their souls to hell, along with all of the politicians who put ink to the paper.

-Wasteland Man.

If you expect me to believe that
obama and the democrats who absolutly
LOVE the word abortion and enjoy it when
they hear how many babies they helped to kill.

If you expect me to believe that suddendly
the liberals are going to STOP abortions and funding it
you must be smoking crack..

Of course they will fund it..

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

Now we have a troll that calls itself “Good For Onan?”

Unfortunately, Onan’s argument seems to have been lost on your father, kid.

Here’s what Section 1937(a) of the Social Security Act says:

State Option of Providing Benchmark Benefits.—

(1) Authority.—

(A) In general.—Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, a State, at its option as a State plan amendment, may provide for medical assistance under this title to individuals within one or more groups of individuals specified by the State through enrollment in coverage that provides—

(i) benchmark coverage described in subsection (b)(1) or benchmark equivalent coverage described in subsection (b)(2);…

The section you cited on p.777 of the House bill describes how states may benchmark planning services. But notice the “mays” above–it doesn’t mandate coverage. All it says is that you can’t use the benchmarking unless family planning services are covered to the extent provided in Section 1905(a)(4)(c) of the Social Security Act.

Section 1905(a)(4)(C) says that family planning services are covered to the extent required by the state: “family planning services and supplies furnished (directly or under arrangements with others) to individuals of child-bearing age (including minors who can be considered to be sexually active) who are eligible under the State plan and who desire such services and supplies;

“But it also should be an honest debate, not one dominated by willful misrepresentations and outright distortions, spread by the very folks who would benefit the most by keeping things exactly as they are.”

willful misrepresentations?

The AARP backs my plan!
Planted children as questioners at STAGED town halls.
I’m not a doctor but I play one at town halls.

“This is an issue of vital concern to every American, and I’m glad that so many are engaged,” Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday.

BULL!

Then why did you want this passed without anyone including yourself from reading it!

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is challenging critics of his push to overhaul the health care system to stop making “phony claims” about proposals now the subject of intense coast-to-coast debate.

Will Obama stop making “phony claims”, call back his Union goons ordered to attack peaceful citizens? “Hit back twice as hard”.

Will Obama stop making “phony claims” 47 million AMERICAN CITIZENS?

You can keep your Doctor/plan.

Aside from Donna Smith/Larry Smith is there anyone in the USA that you personally know of suffering?