WaPo/ABC poll: Obama fading

posted at 10:12 am on August 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Even with a skewed sample, the new Washington Post/ABC News poll shows big trouble for Barack Obama.  He manages to hang onto a 57% approval rating, thanks to a 10-point gap between Democrats and Republicans in the sample, but otherwise the survey shows confidence flagging, pun intended, in Obama. This comes at a bad time for the White House, as they have two massive overhauls of the American economy on the floor of Congress — and that may be the problem:

Public confidence in President Obama’s leadership has declined sharply over the summer, amid intensifying opposition to health-care reform that threatens to undercut his attempt to enact major changes to the system, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Among all Americans, 49 percent now express confidence that Obama will make the right decisions for the country, down from 60 percent at the 100-day mark in his presidency. Forty-nine percent now say they think he will be able to spearhead significant improvements in the system, down nearly 20 percentage points from before he took office.

As challenges to Obama’s initiatives have mounted over the summer, pessimism in the nation’s direction has risen: Fifty-five percent see things as pretty seriously on the wrong track, up from 48 percent in April. …

The president’s overall approval rating stands at 57 percent, 12 points lower than its April peak, as disapproval has ticked up to 40 percent, its highest yet. On specific issues, Obama received more mixed marks. A majority, 53 percent, now disapprove of his handling of the federal budget deficit, and his ratings on health care continue to deteriorate. On the marquee issue of the economy, 52 percent approve of his actions, unchanged from June.

Let’s deal with the sample first.  The poll includes 35% Democrats, 25% Republicans, and 34% independents.  That would make sense — if Obama had won the election by 14 points.  He won it by seven, with independents and some Republicans breaking for Obama.  Here’s a hint to pollsters: if you’re tracking a bigger gap between Democrats and Republicans than we saw in the presidential election, your sample is almost certainly unrepresentative of the electorate.   At least it’s improved for WaPo/ABC, which had it at a ridiculous 13-point gap in June.

The skew explains why Obama still has a 57% approval rating in this poll when Rasmussen and Zogby have him under water and Gallup has him closing in on 50%.  Even with the skew, his disapproval numbers have risen sharply, especially on ObamaCare, which is practically all anyone discusses.  Half of the survey respondents oppose it, with 40% strongly opposed, compared to 45% approving and only 27% strongly approving.  Obama is losing the argument, and the longer it continues, the more his overall numbers will erode with it.

WaPo/ABC sees independents as the key, as should Congressional Democrats facing elections next year.  At the beginning of 2009, Obama had high ratings among independents, but no longer.  Only 41% now trust Obama’s judgment, down from 61% in January.  They disapprove of Obama’s handling of health care by 57%, almost all of whom strongly disapprove, and the same number oppose the policy itself.  Among the half of independents that say ObamaCare will affect their vote in the midterms, they swing 2-1 to saying that they will oppose candidates who backed it.

Even the skewed samples don’t hide the fact that voters have finally realized that Obama is no genius, but an inexperienced politician, a lousy doctor, and an incompetent economist.  And it’s only the seventh month of his presidency.

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That really highlights the idiocy of the plan. The dealers SOLD the cars on the assumption they’d get back $4,500. But they don’t find out if they can get back that money until after the customer owns the car!! So the dealer loses money on every rejected clunker after the fact.

Daggett on August 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM

I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but, just suppose that’s part of the plan from the get go.
How does that not fit in with the Precedent’s view on redistribution of wealth?

VelvetElvis on August 21, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Even the skewed samples don’t hide the fact that voters have finally realized that Obama is no genius, but an inexperienced politician, a lousy doctor, and an incompetent economist. And it’s only the seventh month of his presidency.

Look no further, AP…Ed’s just provided you with your “Quote of the Day”.

RepubChica on August 21, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Those strawmen of hers are quite flammable. Just light ‘em up and throw ‘em back! LOL

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Each of us has a role. You did the precision work. I’m just applauding you, and trying to make sure others catch on.

Loxodonta on August 21, 2009 at 12:55 PM

how to say this…how to say this…um…

Mommypundit on August 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Figure it out yet? Come on, hurry it up!

MadisonConservative on August 21, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Obama here and there does make it a point to talk directly about poll numbers, which is yet another departure from other presidents.

I think it ought to be beneath the president to ever make public notice of polls, but oh well.

Especially for this particular Narcissist-in-Chief, sinking poll numbers have got to sting.

Edouard on August 21, 2009 at 1:04 PM

…. yeah and now we have a black ‘carter’. Great Job America. Imbeciles.

tx2654 on August 21, 2009 at 1:05 PM

There are so many wrong or dumb statements about this subject that it is hard to respond to them. Anyone who thought C4C was good program will love single payer health care. It means someone else is giving you something for nothing. If gov. run health care is so damn good lets look at the states that have tried it in the US. Hawaii-lasted almost a year. Mass- still going but cost are skyrocketing past where they were projected. Vermont- non participants are paying two sets of premiums and the poor people can’t afford their premiums. Tenn-almost bankrupted the state. Oregon-rationing and limited resources. There are more out there but none have succeeded!
What I don’t understand is why can’t we all take a look at some of the big issues and then try to fix them one at a time? Tort reform, no brainer! Have you seen ONE democrat mention this? Loser pays- if you sue and lose you pay the other sides cost. This will stop a lot of ambulance chasers. No state borders for insurance companies. Tax deductability for everyone’s premiums. Only corporations get that now. Pre-existing cond. pool that all ins. companies must share proportionally. This would be based on the whole country and not at the state level. Figure out how we can wean people off of their company furnished health insurance and go to the auto ins. system. That way each family could purchase a policy that suits their needs and that they can afford. A young healthy person could purchase a catastrophic only policy at much lower premiums than a middle aged persons policy. This would also provide portability just like your auto ins does. This would also require some kind of regional mediation board to resolve medical disputes between policy holders and their ins. companies. Attack Medicare and fix the things that are wrong with it before trying to ram a new system down our throats.

inspectorudy on August 21, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Bozo’s approval was below zero at the unemployment office yesterday.

WaPo and ABC poll has him up 12 points over Zogby who skews the results as well. People lie to pollsters all the time. I do not believe they actually spoke to even 25% republicans.

dogsoldier on August 21, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Do you get this yet?

MadisonConservative on August 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Yes! She gets it. The question is do you and the other Troll Feeders get it. You are being toyed with. Thread after thread after thread, these things have been explained to AnninCA and all the other trolls.

Yet, the Troll Feeders rise to the bait time after time after time. Please, do not feed the trolls. Stop feeding them and they will go away.

mrpeabody

mrpeabody on August 21, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Yet, the Troll Feeders rise to the bait time after time after time. Please, do not feed the trolls. Stop feeding them and they will go away.

mrpeabody on August 21, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Trolling is instructive for a couple reasons. It gives people who don’t read lefty sites a glimpse at the arguments they’re attempting to use, and it helps us keep our blades sharp and share ideas on how to counter those arguments.

Without any trolls around the comments sections would mostly be one and two line snarkfests.

BadgerHawk on August 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Without any trolls around the comments sections would mostly be one and two line snarkfests.

BadgerHawk on August 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Exactly

DarkCurrent on August 21, 2009 at 1:27 PM

WaPo/ABC poll: Obama fading

How does one fade from nothing?

UltimateBob on August 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM

WaPo/ABC poll: Obama fading

Racists

chemman on August 21, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Trolling is instructive for a couple reasons. It gives people who don’t read lefty sites a glimpse at the arguments they’re attempting to use, and it helps us keep our blades sharp and share ideas on how to counter those arguments.

Without any trolls around the comments sections would mostly be one and two line snarkfests.

BadgerHawk on August 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Yup. You sharpen your knife on a stone, even though the knife can’t cut the stone.

MadisonConservative on August 21, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Why don’t they sample based on self-described “liberals” vs. “conservatives”? Oh, never mind…I just figured that one out.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 21, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Remember when you turned on my Cap and Trade and then my Health Care plans and I wee-weed on my knees and begged you not to because I’d go berzerk?
Well, you did anyhow and my days have gotten worse and worse and now you see I’ve gone completely out of my mind.

And they’re coming to take me away Ha Ha
They’re coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time, and I’ll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
And they’re coming to take me away ha ha

You thought when my poll numbers started to crater that it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I said that going below 50% would make me flip my lid, right?
You know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed, you laughed and laughed and then you turned your back on me, but now you know I’m utterly mad.

And they’re coming to take me away Ha Ha
They’re coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
They’re coming to take me away ha ha… …

MB4 on August 21, 2009 at 3:58 PM

A quick look through the liberal blogs, and they’re all blaming Obama’s falling poll numbers on erosion among democrats for going wobbly on the public option. Oh no, claims some piece from Plum Line, it’s not the independents, who oppose just about every aspect of ObamaCare. He’s sinking in the polls because the liberals are pissed. Give me a break. This guy is bleeding independents so badly he ought to be in the ER. Did they see this part:

WaPo/ABC sees independents as the key, as should Congressional Democrats facing elections next year. At the beginning of 2009, Obama had high ratings among independents, but no longer. Only 41% now trust Obama’s judgment, down from 61% in January. They disapprove of Obama’s handling of health care by 57%, almost all of whom strongly disapprove, and the same number oppose the policy itself. Among the half of independents that say ObamaCare will affect their vote in the midterms, they swing 2-1 to saying that they will oppose candidates who backed it.

Yup, his only problem is the liberals all right. The depths of delusion that liberals can succumb to never ceases to amaze me. Let’s just hope Obama heeds their advice and takes an even harder turn left, you know, since the independents are hanging tough with him and all.

Rational Thought on August 21, 2009 at 5:06 PM

A-ooooooo-gah!! A-ooooooooo-gah!
Dive! Dive! Dive!

These numbers are going deeper faster than an anchor over the side!!

Khun Joe on August 21, 2009 at 5:14 PM

How does one fade from nothing?

UltimateBob on August 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM

by turning A whiter shade of pale?

all irony fully intended?

Fighton03 on August 21, 2009 at 5:28 PM

The far left has an agenda and it is not pro OBAMA.

Ris4victory on August 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM

yeah, they are on a quest to make BO look like a centrist.

Fighton03 on August 21, 2009 at 5:38 PM

“He has a gift you know”

Harry Reid on Obama

Baxter Greene on August 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM

Once the Dow hits 10,000 it will go up. I don’t like it, but it will.

tomas on August 21, 2009 at 5:51 PM

“Obama is no genius, but an inexperienced politician, a lousy doctor, and an incompetent economist.”
And he throws like a girl!

mrt721 on August 21, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Try as they may, they can not hide the trajectory.

Why 25%? I mean that is just insulting, they might as well not even pretend and just leave out Republicans altogether.

Terrye on August 21, 2009 at 5:54 PM

‘sort of God like’..

tatersalad on August 21, 2009 at 7:03 PM

’sort of God like’… tatersalad on August 21, 2009 at 7:03 PM

‘sort of false-god like’

Mojave Mark on August 21, 2009 at 7:23 PM

And it’s only the seventh month of his presidency.

Seems like it’s been 7 years.

Herb on August 21, 2009 at 7:34 PM

And it’s only the seventh month of his presidency.

Carter v2.0

csdeven on August 21, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Once the Dow hits 10,000 it will go up. I don’t like it, but it will.

tomas on August 21, 2009 at 5:51 PM

This may be false optimism, but I don’t think so. In fact, the market is going up only as The One’s approval is going down. He is so far left that even the market knows that if his policies are adopted, the free market is, if not dead, severely gutted. I think most people will recognize that if the market does recover.

AZfederalist on August 22, 2009 at 12:23 AM


I’m prepared to lose this one, for sure. I do think I’ll see some of the more egregious practices eliminated in the industry, such as purging patients during treatment, etc.

That will be a step forward.

AnninCA on August 21, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Anna that is the most outrageous lie Obama has told. It against federal law to cancel coverage in the middle of treatment and to prohibit renewal. THe law is called HIPAA and an insurance company can lose its license if it tries that.

Can my insurance company cancel my policy or refuse to renew my policy if I
am diagnosed with cancer?
No. Your health insurance may not be canceled or not renewed by the health
insurance issuer based on the fact that you have been diagnosed with cancer.

http://www.tyla.org/pdfs/ch2-insurance-issues.pdf

Texas on August 22, 2009 at 1:29 AM

It’s the economy, stupid

(speaking to Obama)

The economy sucks and it is tanking despite what is being said. The second foreclosure wave is just beginning. The only stimulus money reaching the masses is the unemployment extension

Too bad Obie can’t get his stimulus money back and use it to pay down the credit debt of the public which is about to implode. If the Fed raises interest rates a point, duck for cover. If they dont, pretend we are Japan for a long time

The mobile American has become immobilized unlwss he gives his home, his only investment, back to the bank and lets a speculator buy it for pennies

Americans can no longer chase the job market unless they ride out of town on the back of a pickup like the Oakies in the dustbowl

They are trapped and realize Obama isn’t helping them, he is helping others with their tax money

Meanwhile, gas is creeping up again

entagor on August 22, 2009 at 2:55 AM

In Life.
0=F
Math: 0=F
Sales:0=F
As pres o=f
Kid is over his head and 2010 / 2012 are looking to be fun.
His so call mentor Abe said you can fool em some of the time.Time is running out on Jimmah 2.I have 4 cans of unopened Billy beer to crack open at the party .

Col.John Wm. Reed on August 22, 2009 at 7:31 AM

Try this one on a lib who is a parent wanting to get a kid into the Ivy.
” I would rather die naturally and as gracefully as possible”(sorta like in the olden times) rather than ruin my children,grand children and great grand children’s future,not to mention debase the whole Nation.Mull that one over boma and AARP.

Col.John Wm. Reed on August 22, 2009 at 7:38 AM

Rasmussen poll on 23 Aug 2009:

Obama at -14 %

(41 % strongly disapprove, 27% strongly approve)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Other Rasmussen polls:

more trust REP on health care (44% GOP, 41% DEM)
more trust REP on economy (46% GOP, 40% DEM)
more trust REP on taxes (51% GOP, 35% DEM)

We need an election to get things turned around.

4thQTR on August 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM

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