Romney/Palin or Palin/Romney, either way is FINE with me!

I even swore off this site and several others for the same psuedo-con horseshit. But, this morning I made an exception over at AT, so I may as well tell you what I told them — Go fuck yourself.

so the government shouldn’t mandate auto insurance?

I would never vote for someone who believes it is proper for government to tell citizens what to buy with their own money.

Romney appears to be a strong supporter of big-government. This is worse than being RINO.

oops meant to say “and it didn’t help get him elected, did it?”

The plan isn’t perfect (and he’s said as much) but it isn’t the boondoggle Obama and Rahm are trying to cram down our throats.

Romneycare highlights Mitt’s ability to forge alliances and tackle huge projects. And he took his time and great care in doing it because he understood that it’s a very personal issue with folks (only 1 in 10 Mass citizens would repeal Romneycare).

It’s such a clear juxtapostion to what we are experiencing now with Obama and the far left Democrats trying to ram rod Obamacare thru Congress.

Romney is like the anti-Obama style of leadership….his campaign could run on that all day long.

Romney isn’t pro abortion, nor is he a liberal. You must be so far to the right that anyone who is even a tad left of you, you see them as liberal.

You and Obama’s extremism’s are what’s broken about politics and Washington.

In three years no one, and I mean on one, is going to want extreme far left or far right ideologues running for POTUS.

America will be ready for competent leadership, honest and clean, a non-corrupt politician to bring us back from the brink of this Obama socialist nightmare experiment.

As far as Romney not having enough foreign policy, national security and military experience……well McCain had that in droves and it didn’t help get him elected didn’t it.

Sorry, sheryl (re August 22, 2009 11:55 AM post), but Mitt Romney does have a problem with respect to the health care issue and it points to Romney’s weakness that he was a liberal to moderate Governor of Massachusetts. The Massachusetts health care program under Romney can be used by Democrats against Republicans, just as Romney’s pro-abortion position as Governor can be used against Republicans. Romney can say he has changed his positions on health care and abortion, but that substantially weakens his candidacy.

And then there is the matter of Romney’s lack of experience concerning forerign policy, military matters and national security.

Like I said, if you want to chase that rabbit, knock yourself out. You catch it, it will be a meal for only one.
archer52 on August 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM

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Nonsense, archer. Screw your attempt at intimidation by bringing up riots & The New Black Panthers.
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And screw your limp reaction to any disrespect for the law.

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The Constitution MATTERS. Disregard it at YOUR peril. Without it there is no United States of America.
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P.S. True Americans will gladly fight, then enjoy that “meal-for-one”, even if it’ll be his/her LAST MEAL. You’d have us all dependent on SHARING ONE RABBIT.

U.S. Defense Security Guidlines:

Conditions that could raise a security concern and may be disqualifying include:

a. The exercise of dual citizenship;

b. Possession and/or use of a foreign passport;

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Be sure to read attorney Donofrio’s important follow-up report.

This is a demonstrably untrue statement and it childish, uninformed thinking like this will give Obama a second term.

sheryl on August 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM

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sheryl, childish & uninformed thinking is not the half of it:

Dumb yet fascinating. Obama’s birth certificate won’t be an issue in the primaries… unless Birtherism is actually a proxy for other political dynamics, in which case this becomes an interesting little data point.

ALLAH, you continue conflating 2 separate issues & then conveniently stereotyping people who’ve been pointing out that OBAMA DISQUALIFIED HIMSELF BEFORE THE ELECTION with people solely stuck on stupid about the birth certificate and where is his real birthplace. The 1st group doesn’t agree with the 2nd group.
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ALLAH, your purpose for lumping those who called Obama out ON THE FACT that he admitted dual citizenship together with “birthers”, and dismissing both, can be found IN YOUR OWN WORDS HotAir on July 21, 2009, where you freely dismiss the Constitutional requirement of Natural Born Citizen at Birth as “dumbest provision” which a “sane world” would abolish… as if the Constitution was a buffet from which to pick and choose.

But I’m more grounded in the reality that even if we prove it, what will happen? Finding out BO is not a citizen (even though it would be argued he is half a citizen) will not matter in the real world. He’ll remain the President, a whole raft of opinions will be generated about how that archaic law was made by racists old white guys two hundreds years ago and doesn’t apply today, yada yada. He’ll get sympathy from people who would not give it normally because he’ll play the “It wasn’t my fault” card.

There will be no win for America. If there is an attempt to remove him based on this, the whole nation will erupt in civil war, and I mean there would be a good chance people would actually start shooting at each other type civil war. (Do you think the New Black Panthers would stand still for it?)

The actually attempt to remove him, because you KNOW he won’t go willingly, would be bogged down in court, people arguing the law is invalid, times have changed, and oh BTW did you notice the guy is black- you racist. There would be a series of mind boggling events here and across the globe.

It would be a nightmare and give plenty of cover for those who handle Obama to move around behind the scenes doing more damage and stealing more money.

All that for what? To prove you are right? “See I told you so.” moment? We have been pointing out for years the double standard the liberal use for their advantage. “See, you are cheating! Caught you!” has done exactly what for us? Made us feel better? They still cheat, only harder and more openly. Why? Because it works! They are winning, While we stand around complaining about the rule violations they control the media, the schools, our environment, our work area, and soon our wages and our healthcare. Of course they cheat, all the way to the bank.

Guys, we are at war. This is not a debate. This is war, and there are no rules in war other than Al Davis’s mantra, “Just win baby!” I suggest we all choose our targets based on what is the most effective and the most damaging to the opposition. Proving Obama is not a citizen, now that he is President will only cause trouble, it will not get him out of office. Catching him dirty with lies, stealing our money and future, having cover ups, and surrounded by corruption actually does, because it proves the BIG lie- that he was supposed to be different than all the others. People get that. Voters get that.

Like I said, if you want to chase that rabbit, knock yourself out. You catch it, it will be a meal for only one.

Mitt Romney is the most conservative of the “boys” listed.
(Gingrich can never get the nomination because of his lifelong problem with his pecker running the show.)

Huckabee is the pardon king and nanny queen who should never be allowed to run a post office much less the country.

Of those currently mentioned, Romney and Palin are the only two who should even be discussed as a possibility.

If you love Obamacare, Mitt Romney is your man.

I. Will. Not. Vote. For. Mitt. Romney. Under. Any. Circumstance.”

This is a demonstrably untrue statement and it childish, uninformed thinking like this will give Obama a second term.

If you love Obamacare, Mitt Romney is your man.

I. Will. Not. Vote. For. Mitt. Romney. Under. Any. Circumstance.

If they tried that, Romney could easily afford ads showing Obama out flip-flopping anyone in history.

I would really like to see more people among the Right lay down the infighting and the knocking of Personality One versus Personality Two or whatever, whoever else, and just get going to win back Congress next year, then the White House in 2012. If the last Election is any indication of developments, infighting about camps associated with various candidates only serves to strangle all candidates.

But if it’s a proxy, what’s it a proxy for? Level of education? Regional identification? Something else? My hunch is that the further right you go, the more Birther-y you get, not because you’re any more credulous on the merits of the birth-certificate argument but because the more adamant your opposition to Obama’s agenda, the more desperately you want him out of office.

You’re way over-analyzing this, AP, just way over-analyzing the entire issue. It’s about and only about a guy who likely has lied his way into the Oval Office, and a political party who made that possible.

As an American, I don’t like that. I wouldn’t like it, regardless of what Obama was doing, but that he’s doing very bad things in combination with having already, likely, already done a monstrously bad thing (lying his way into the Oval Office), well, those are additional things (what he’s doing after lying his way into office).

My conclusion about all of you who fan the flames of the “Birthers” meme (“they’re subhuman weirdos who hate Meaghan McCain or won’t get off Glenn Beck’s phone” or something similar) is that it’s your weird form of Non-Birther fun.

Otherwise, the issue would have gone away by now as to using “Birthers” to bash and ridicule while, interesting enough, no one among the bashers ever has a reasonable argument to establish that Obama has NOT lied his way into the Oval Office. Even among Democrats, that’s an indication that you’ve lost the argument.

Romney/Palin 2012

The SCOTUS has never ruled on the operational meaning of natural born citizen.

progressoverpeace on August 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM

But they have made eliminations.

SLAUGHTERHOUSE CASES, 83 U. S. 36 (1872)

The first observation we have to make on this clause is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, “subject to its jurisdiction” was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.