Unemployment rises again
posted at 10:54 am on August 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The Obama administration got its second straight week of bad news on the job front. Intial unemployment claims increased this week to 576,000, 26,000 higher than analysts expected, and the four-week average rose to 570,000. The increasing claims belie the notion that the job market will see any signs of recovery in the near term, and make claims of success from the stimulus package even less believable than before:
The number of first-time claims for unemployment benefits rose unexpectedly for the second straight week, a sign that jobs remain scarce even as other data show the economy is stabilizing.
The Labor Department said Thursday the number of new jobless claims rose to a seasonally adjusted 576,000 last week, from a revised figure of 561,000. Wall Street economists expected a drop to 550,000, according to a survey by Thomson Reuters.
Economists closely watch initial claims, which are considered a gauge of layoffs and an indication of companies’ willingness to hire new workers.
The figures are volatile, and had been trending down, after remaining above 600,000 for most of this year. The new report indicates that the labor market is still weak. In a healthy economy, initial claims are usually around 325,000 or below.
The problem isn’t just with the initial jobless claims. The Bureau of Labor Statistics tracks the average weeks of unemployment for claimants, and the news there looks especially bad. The average now stands at 25.1, up from 24.5 in June, and August will likely be higher. That number is by far the worst in the past decade; in the supposedly “jobless recovery” in 2003-4, the worst that number ever got was 20.1 weeks.
The BLS also tracks “discouraged workers,” those who have left the workforce altogether and are not seeking jobs. That number has also reached highs not seen in at least a decade, with 796,000 workers currently falling into this category. Compare that to the last recession and recovery, where that number never rose above 534,000.
Obama has a big problem. The stimulus package has utterly failed to prevent unemployment from getting above the target line of 8%. After some initial optimism about the economy, employers are once again shedding jobs and reducing costs, particularly as they see Obama’s expansive — and expensive — legislative agenda work through Congress. At the time when Obama says, “Trust me to run health care,” voters are realizing that he couldn’t get the economy right while mortgaging the Treasury. Maybe Obama should focus on fixing what he’s already broken before breaking something else.










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Have we had a week this year where the numbers did not “unexpectedly” go up or down?
WashJeff on August 20, 2009 at 10:56 AM
Obama got a job.
The rest don’t matter.
“I won.”
profitsbeard on August 20, 2009 at 10:57 AM
stupidliberal4ever: only shovel ready jobs are in the white house trying to keep the sh#t from oozing out the windows.
jbh45 on August 20, 2009 at 10:57 AM
See..See.. that’s why we need to fix healthcare/insurance. So we can put all those insurance company employees on the unemployment rolls.
red131 on August 20, 2009 at 10:57 AM
And after that, how about his absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrats fix all the other crappy ponzi scheme programs they’ve saddled the country with over the last century?
Namely, how about making sure Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid don’t demand our children fork over 90% of their income to the feds in two decades?
I might as well wish Barry could flap his arms and fly to the moon. This guy is so far in over his head and the juvenile delinquents he has advising him are no better.
NoDonkey on August 20, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Yes, and I work for one of those mean, greedy insurance companies. We are all so very, very EVIL! Be VERY afraid!
jbh45 on August 20, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Obama’s legacy. Here it is.
The greatest period of unemployment, loss of GDP, and most successive recessionary quarters in United States History.
daesleeper on August 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
No can do. He is also working hard to get to single-loaner for education loans. Those private banks are evil I tell you. EVIL!
WashJeff on August 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
What about the funemployed?
Disturb the Universe on August 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
You still think he’s interested in fixing things?
Daggett on August 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
I would think that in a healthy economy you wouldn’t have hardly any initial jobless claims. 325,000 claims is ‘good’?
Also it gives the Democrats more ammunition on their assertion that 14000 people are losing their insurance every day. That sounds a lot better than 14000 people are losing their job that provided insurance every day.
Talking about the people losing insurance might imply that they are ‘fixing’ it. They don’t want to mention that 14000 people are losing their jobs every day. . . that would make them look bad.
ThackerAgency on August 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
The grim legacy of the Bush era continues. The Wall Street meltdown and housing bubble that sprang directly from Bush Administration policies caused a recession that will not be put behind us quickly. Bankrupt Republican ideology bankrupting Americans
Bleeds Blue on August 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
I’ll say this for Obama: he has done a spectacular job at disconnecting the employment-health insurance link.
jwolf on August 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
read a book, if you can read that is….
jbh45 on August 20, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Change……..for the worse.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Destimulated.
Count to 10 on August 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM
I have the nasty feeling everything is going as planned.
fourdeucer on August 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM
That statement also comes with an expiration date: 1/21/09.
sherry on August 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM
I don’t know about anyone else but I have now been looking for a job for over a year now. This does not look like it is going to get better any time soon. Not to mention the fact that Florida is a “welfare to work” state. It sucks so bad. Either I am over qualified or lose out to people who are on welfare.
milwife88 on August 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Unemployment now pushing the big one-O %
Thanks, Obama! That Stimulus really worked, didn’t it?
UltimateBob on August 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM
And page 16 will make them instant customers of the government option.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Just a continuation of the downward trend caused by Bush’s policies.
getaliberal234
fogw on August 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM
The economic forecasters at all the major news outlets never get an economic forecast correct because the headline always reads ‘unexpected’.
It would be just like your local weather report saying it ‘unexpectedly’ rained last night. The sun ‘unexpectedly’ broke through partly cloudy skies, and the temperature ‘unexpectedly’ reached 85 degrees this afternoon.
Note to the news media, and your economists; you need to find a new word.
Skandia Recluse on August 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM
How can this be? We have been told for the last few weeks that the recession was over and happy days were here.Now i really believe they were cooking the unemployment numbers last month .I think the real number of unemployed is around 15% and they are scared to death the real number will come out very soon.
thmcbb on August 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM
I do not think this number takes into account newly created jobs. I.e., it is not jobs created minus jobs lost = this number.
Losing less than 325K jobs a month is just part of the creative destruction of a free market.
WashJeff on August 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM
And middle-class consumers aren’t buying either. Wonder why?
unclesmrgol on August 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM
When unemployment when from 9.5% to 9.4% instead of going up to 9.6%, BO heralded it as the big turn around in the economy. Things have bottomed out. Light at the end of the tunnel.
Basing all that fluff on one minor tick was “behaving stupidly”. I suspect the next unemployment rate will go up and then what will he say?
kurtzz3 on August 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Craps Blue has already expired. Troll – walkthrough – spectator.
jbh45 on August 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Bleeds BlueOozes BS.FIFY
profitsbeard on August 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Its what Maobama and his zombies want.
Things seem to be progressing nicely for the progressives.
Socialism never leads to individual prosperity and individual freedom.
Duh.
Itchee Dryback on August 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM
This is setting the table for a horrendous holiday season.
myrenovations on August 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM
You mean the policies from the democratic controlled senate and congress don’t you? Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere troll.
DeweyWins on August 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM
So true. If the media would turn from lapdogs to hound dogs coupled with the growing public outrage, in six months we could have this man rustled out of bed in the midldle of the night and halfway to Havana for safekeeping.
sherry on August 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM
PERFECT time to send 2 billion overseas so another country can create jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!
deidre on August 20, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Again, damn, too predictable and horrible, the thrill of throwing us under the bus. He stuck in his thumb and pulled out a bum. Obama “prays every day” for more people under his thumb.
Obama, YOU‘RE FIRED!
maverick muse on August 20, 2009 at 11:06 AM
The Wall Street meltdown and housing bubble that sprang directly from Bush Administration policies caused a recession that will not be put behind us quickly. Bankrupt Republican ideology bankrupting Americans
Bleeds Blue on August 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Please explain this comment. I am not sure how you can blame the Bush administration for the housing bubble when it was the Community Reinvestment Act. I worked in banking for 7 years, I know who is to blame for the housing bubble. You really ned to educate yourself before you comment.
milwife88 on August 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Once you toss out the discredited Keynesian model of macroeconomics, you would think that this is what it was designed to do.
Count to 10 on August 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM
yup.
Itchee Dryback on August 20, 2009 at 11:08 AM
No. I mean the party that controlled the White House for the last eight years and the Party that controlled the Congress for 12 of the last 14 years. And the Banking legislation written by the Republican whose wife was a banking executive and who became a big bucks bank lobbyist once his work was done.
Funny how nothing bad that happened during the Bush era was ever Bush’s fault.
Bleeds Blue on August 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM
BREAKING NEWS: liberal343 was finally proven right on something.
Stop the presses! :-)
Abby Adams on August 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I think the Labor Department and economists ought to get into the business of predicting the weather. Every effin jobs report has the word “unexpected” in it. How LONG have these knob gobblers been at this forecasting stuff?
It rained today, unexpectedly…
It was sunny today unexpectedly…
It was warmer yesterday than today, unexpectedly…
In a strange turn of events, an unexpected tornado blew away a guys house today….
Do we have any functional use for these people anymore? How about going and asking a few folks or businesses if they have jobs, or are making any in a systematic way?
Toolbags—the whole lot of them
ted c on August 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Haha just yesterday you were crowing about all the different ways Obama saved the economy.
Chuck Schick on August 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM
The only thing coming down are Mugabe’s poll numbers.
elduende on August 20, 2009 at 11:10 AM
- Backtrack Hussein Obama
fogw on August 20, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Bleeds Blue on August 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Well Obama was supposedly representing the people of IL for the last couple of years(not really) and Democrats controlled Congress. just like 2 or 3 years ago the budget deficit was like 160 billion and now it’s likely to be 10-12 times that and Congress controls spending, but we know those saintly never do anything wrong Democrats have nothing to do with anything ever that ever goes wrong.
gsherin on August 20, 2009 at 11:10 AM
So long as less people are googling “recession”, you can rest assured that the economy is strong! I would also look into googling “sucks that I lost my job”, because if results for that are equally low, you can also be sure that people are happy for the job losses. Go Obama! Yes we can (be on the gov’t dole)!
/s
JustMary on August 20, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Its rather hard to top FDR, seeing as an amendment to the constitution was passed to keep a President from screwing with the economy for more than eight years in a row.
Count to 10 on August 20, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Obama is only one facet of the problem. The real problem is all the leftist progressives in the house and senate. We need to clean house over the next six years. Desperately. These peopel have elevated themselves to the status of American Royalty. I am sorry, but America has no royalty. We hold royalty in disdain.
We need to clean up the legislature NOW.
daesleeper on August 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Yes but how many jobs were saved in that same time period?
NoLeftTurn on August 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM
THE RECESSION IS OVER LOLZ!!!!!
There, liberal trolls. I saved you some keystrokes. Return the favor.
MadisonConservative on August 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM
You act as if the Democrats had nothing to do with the problems we’re facing now. Have you ignored the fact that it was both Democrats and Republicans that allowed individuals to purchase houses they couldn’t afford thanks to government mandates (something that is anti-market)?
If you want to point fingers and blame people for the current situation, you can blame the Democrats and a small amount of Republicans( who want to, suddenly, “get back to their roots”). Why blame them? Because they are responsible for the second “stimulus/spending” package that did nothing to help the economy.
The more government intervenes into the market, the slower the recovery is going to be. Bush’s policies of interventionism into the economy is nothing compared to Obama’s: Cash for Clunkers, increased spending, and, as mentioned before, another stimulus package – and you call it a “Bankrupt Republican ideology bankrupting Americans;” give me a break.
I have a great idea: let’s stop spending so much money and let’s stop intervening into the once “free-market” and let the market work itself out. If we had done nothing we’d be out of this mess already. It looks like you haven’t looked in the mirror to see where the real policy-problems lie.
Sleeper on August 20, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Really? It was the CRA that made banks leverage themselves at 30-1? It was the CRA that made wrote the faulty models that funds used to create derivatives that went south? It was the CRA that made the fed push interest rates down and encouraged overinvestment by speculators and bubble mentality among middle class buyers?
I know how hard it is not top blame things on shiftless minorities and libruls, but it was the smart rich, conservative guys that built this mess.
Bleeds Blue on August 20, 2009 at 11:13 AM
elduende on August 20, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Exactly and it’s because the vast majority of Americans are not buying Obama’s tearful “it’s all Bush’s fault”.
I don’t recall Obama telling us the situation was hopeless when he was campaigning, did you?
As he and his MSM cheerleaders told us, vote for Barry and we’d all be whistling zippee-da-doo-dah out our butts once he was elected.
And now, Barry’s supporters are saying (sniffle, sniffle), “it’s all Bush’s fault!”.
Please. Go sell stupid somewhere else, this Democrat Congress has bought the American people a warehouse full of it.
NoDonkey on August 20, 2009 at 11:15 AM
I predict we’ll get to 15% unemployment. At least.
CP on August 20, 2009 at 11:15 AM
I wonder how the MSM is going to put a positive spin on these new unemployment numbers?
farright on August 20, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Not picking nits too deeply but:
Does this imply that unemployment recently STOPPED rising?
We need to FIRE all 535 + 1 (549 if you count all 57 states)
Katfish on August 20, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Obamanomics is working out so well. Even having the MSM trumpeting “there is light at the end of the tunnel” isn’t working. Go figure. Maybe what we need is MORE
PORK, er STIMULUS. Yeah, that’s it. SPEND MORE!GarandFan on August 20, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Blue- every Obama economic policy has been a complete failure so far.
Chuck Schick on August 20, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Not fair. They should report the number of jobs “saved”. /sarc
Kenosha Kid on August 20, 2009 at 11:16 AM
You are my kind of person. ++++++
TXMomof3 on August 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Obama probably actually LIKES high unemployment, since it’s a measure of dependency.
They only fear the fallout of people getting pissed at not having jobs and voting them out. Which is why they are already playing with the numbers, saying it “fell” to 9.4% last month even though net jobs continue to be lost.
So they will keep massaging that number to keep it below 10%, when the truth is unemployment is going to hit 20% or higher under these economic policies, even if they refuse to report it.
wildcat84 on August 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM
To be fair, Barry has really helped the Chinese economy, the Brazlian economy, the Venezuela economy . . .
He’ll get around to ours at some point I’m sure.
Right after he destroys health care.
NoDonkey on August 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM
That’s why he and the rest of his Administration have been mentioning periodically that they still anticipate the unemployment rate reaching double figures. That way they can fall back on the lagging indicator defense.
Which ordinarily would be a legit argument, but that’s predicated on the unemployment eventually going down considerably from its current level. Obama’s essentially betting his entire Presidency on the economy completely turning around in the next couple years.
Doughboy on August 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM
If this is Bush’s legacy, why are the numbers getting worse rather than better?
Why can’t the Obamesiah fix these problems with all that purdy talk and czillions of czars?
Elizabetty on August 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM
“The BLS also tracks “discouraged workers,” those who have left the workforce altogether and are not seeking jobs. That number has also reached highs not seen in at least a decade, with 796,000 workers currently falling into this category. Compare that to the last recession and recovery, where that number never rose above 534,000.”
As the months go on, this will only get worse. I was laid off in January and I’m no longer collecting unemployment, so I don’t count in the unemployment statistics, but I was about ready to retire, anyway.
Star20 on August 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM
That was a perfect imitation of a deluded liberal. I really liked the way you completely ignored the fact that Fannie Mae and Barney Frank created the housing mess.
Now do Ed Sulivan.
TMK on August 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM
So far the only jobs “saved” are in industries The Won hasn’t yet targeted for elimination or government takeover yet. Give him time, he’ll get to everyone eventually.
wildcat84 on August 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Nope. All of that was the Democrats, with a bit of help from liberal Republicans.
Count to 10 on August 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM
liberal4eva says, “Who cares.”
lorien1973 on August 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Yeah, but he “saved” about 300,000 jobs!
/sarc
MJBrutus on August 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM
It’s getting harder and harder to conceal the fact that this piece of sh!t President is intentionally destroying the economy.
pistolero on August 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM
So, what we can take from today’s news would be, the supposedly broken health system, isn’t broken and the supposedly fixed government, isn’t fixed, and the supposedly fixed government that isn’t fixed wants to fix the health system that doesn’t need fixing.
Yeah sure that all makes sense.
Speakup on August 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Why don’t you ask the Democrats and their pals at ACORN who were willing to ‘lean’ on any institution that followed normal procedures in identifying the credit worthy? Any that balked were told not to worry, Fannie and Freddie would by up their paper. The CRA is just another in a long line of liberal programs set up with high ideals and no regard for the consequences. But then, Barney “lets roll the dice” Frank doesn’t have to live with those consequences, does he?
GarandFan on August 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM
So, by “ocean levels will fall” Obama meant “employment rates will fall”
I see.
lorien1973 on August 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Too stupid for words. You might find this helpful.
DrSteve on August 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM
“WE SAVED THE ECONOMY.”
-Rahm Emmanuel (D), chief political adviser for President Barack Obama (D)
Good Lt on August 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Hell, the only libs who come close to having actual “jobs” are those who are paid “community organizers” or who are politicians.
The rest just leech.
wildcat84 on August 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Really? It was the CRA that made banks leverage themselves at 30-1?
BleedsBlue: Proof Please, Still waiting on factual information. Just because you say it doen’t mean it is true. Provide proof.
milwife88 on August 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Where be the trolls?
deidre on August 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM
testing
faraway on August 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Yeah, it’s funny how it only takes 2 years for Dem controlled Congress and 6 months for the executive branch to really hose things up and provide perspective for the American people and refresh Republican morals.
NickelAndDime on August 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM
It’s Bush’s legacy because economic cycles are slow and the proximate causes of this downturn happened on his watch. Kind of a no-brainer. You can blame Obama beginning next July — 18 months into his administration and just in time for the election.
It should be noted that St. Ronnie whined relentlessly about Jimmy Carter during the recession that marred his first couple of years in office.
Bleeds Blue on August 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM
It was the CRA that “encouraged” banks to issue loans to SUB-prime borrowers. As a refresher, sub-prime borrowers are people who don’t or can’t pay their bills.
search4truth on August 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM
If the GOP had half a brain they’d be running ads about job losses and hanging that on Obama like the Democrats did to Bush with the “Mission Accomplished” banner.
wildcat84 on August 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Liberal ideology == Epic Failure
kirkill on August 20, 2009 at 11:23 AM
“Stimulus can save 4 million jobs”
- Obama 1/10/2009
faraway on August 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM
WHERE ARE THE JOBS?
txag92 on August 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Unstimulated.
EconomicNeocon on August 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM
When/if Obamacare passes, there will be a huge need for gravediggers. Shovel ready jobs!
Keef Overbite on August 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Even the progressive FDR loved America and reflected optimism with “Happy Days Are Here Again” while mandating federal policies that extended the anguish of Depression, starvation and people dispossessed from their homes and farms.
And we’re supposed to sing “Obama’s gonna change it, and re-arrange it” with a Hopey Joker smile, picking up pink slips, pounding pavement and keystrokes, running out of benefits.
So much for rebuilding the dilapidated public works infrastructure of the USA with Stimulus. Obama’s funding EVERYONE BUT THE USA “shovel ready” projects. As if that weren’t bad enough, he’s mandating that our projects are illegal (oil and energy production including clean nuclear).
maverick muse on August 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Hey, at least the ocean level isn’t rising.
kirkill on August 20, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Some will be off the coast of Brazil extracting oil from beneath the ocean floor.
WashJeff on August 20, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Nice handle, in one fell swoop it tells people where you stand on each and every topic, and simultaneously lets your audience know that you can’t think for yourself.
NickelAndDime on August 20, 2009 at 11:25 AM
lorien1973
Brava
maverick muse on August 20, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Please. Read up on the subprime mess before you bring idiotic talking points, here okay?
Government created the problem by practically forcing banks to accept subprime mortgages (read up about how ACORN helped this along. And did Obama when he was a laywer for them). Then you can read up on how Bush tried to fix the problem in 2003 and 2005 (democrat controlled senate halted it). You can then read about now the NYT saw this coming in 1999. How it was predicted in 2007. Then you can read quotes from Frank telling us how wonderful Fannie/Freddie were and how solvent they are in 2007. Then you can read about the collapse and what caused it.
It was inevitable. All started by policies from Washington trying to shape the buying habits of the public with incentives.
Try not be retarded. Okay?
lorien1973 on August 20, 2009 at 11:26 AM
The grim legacy of the
Busheracontinuesbegins. The Wall Street meltdown and housing bubble that sprang directly fromBush Administrationthe CRA & socialist policies caused arecessiondepression that will not be put behind us quickly. BankruptRepublicansocialist ideology has bankrupt Americans ready to kick some ass.izoneguy on August 20, 2009 at 11:26 AM
If only we could fill the void with lawyers…
NickelAndDime on August 20, 2009 at 11:26 AM
If the media had the honesty to show the soup kitchens, homeless, unemployed, and others suffering from the Obama depression, the President would be staggering from the blow.
As with FDR, the media is hiding Obama’s paralysis.
JiangxiDad on August 20, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Yep. He’ll soon claim he “inherited” Bush’s poll numbers too.
elduende on August 20, 2009 at 11:26 AM
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