Scotland releases the Lockerbie mass murderer after 8 years in prison

posted at 12:15 pm on August 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

It took more than a decade to get Abdel Baset al-Megrahi to trial in Scotland to face charges of mass murder in the bombing of a Pan Am jet that killed 259 people in the air and 11 people on the ground in Lockerbie.  Convicted of the murders, Megrahi got sentenced to life imprisonment, but as it turns out, Megrahi will serve less than 12 days for each murder.  Scotland has agreed to release Megrahi on “compassionate” grounds:

Scotland’s government freed the terminally ill Lockerbie bomber on compassionate grounds Thursday, allowing him to die at home in Libya despite American protests that mercy should not be shown to the man responsible for the deaths of 270 people.

The White House said it “deeply regrets” Scotland’s move minutes after the decision was announced.

Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill said Abdel Baset al-Megrahi’s condition had deteriorated from prostate cancer. Al-Megrahi had only served some eight years of a life sentence, but MacAskill said he was bound by Scottish values to release him.

Many of the victims were American, including four intelligence officers on Pan Am 103.  How did the Obama administration react to the release of the man who murdered them?  Rather passively:

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton phoned MacAskill before the announcement, urging him not to release al-Megrahi, and seven U.S. senators wrote a letter with a similar message.

In Washington, Obama administration officials said Scottish authorities had not formally notified them that al-Megrahi would be released. But they said the administration was working on the assumption that he would be. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the delicate diplomacy involved and the sensitive nature of the case.

Supposedly, Megrahi only has three months to live, and the Scots want to give him the opportunity to spend his last few days with his family.  I suppose the families of Megrahi’s 270 victims would have liked that, too.  Too bad Megrahi never gave them that chance.

The Scots say that they treated him according to Scotland’s values.  Apparently, they value innocent life at around 11.57 days, which is the number that Megrahi served for each person he murdered in that terrorist attack.  If we don’t value innocent life more than that, how exactly does that make us different from thugs like Megrahi?


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D2Boston on August 20, 2009 at 12:16 PM

I knew someone that died in this outrage. This pisses me off to no end.

gsherin on August 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I find this outrageous. Absolutely outrageous.

ORconservative on August 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Gee, a guy who’s already about to die and has blown up an airplaine once CERTAINLY wouldn’t think of becoming a suicide bomber, huh?

DrAllecon on August 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Ridiculous.

BadgerHawk on August 20, 2009 at 12:18 PM

This is an example of why treating terror as a “crime” does not work. We need to kill them not coddle them. Another disgusting story.

elduende on August 20, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Supposedly, Megrahi only has three months to live

That is 3 months more than he deserves.

Disturb the Universe on August 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM

TIME OVERDO BRING ALL TROOPS HOME FROM EUROPE. EUROPEANS ARE MUSLIM PAWNS. BRING ALL TROOPS HOME FROM EVERWHERE THEY ARE ALSO TELL AMERICAN CITIZENS BE HOME IN 1 MONTH AFTER THAT IF WE ARE ATTACTED AGAIN BT THE BARBARIANS(MUSLIMS) NUKE EM NUKE EM NUKE EM

rone5847 on August 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Unbelievable. Though I’m not a normally violent person, I’d love the chance to personally twist this SOBs head off and put him out of his misery. Justice was NOT served in this case.

DarkCurrent on August 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Compassionately he gets what he denied to others. Nice to see the liberals in Europe are so compassionate with other peoples emotions. You know that none of the people who made this decision lost a loved one that day.

Tommy_G on August 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Disgusting. He had no compassion on his innocent victims.

Beaglemom on August 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Supposedly, Megrahi only has three months to live, and the Scots want to give him the opportunity to spend his last few days with his family.

No. That is not compassionate. Sometimes love is tough love. This cretin needs to die in prison, alone, as a deterrent to other would be mass murderers.

rbj on August 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Someone should as Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill this simple question:

In the case of Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, what would legendary Scottish freedom fighter William Wallace had done?

The answer would have been in little tiny pieces, left by a rather large sword.

pilamaye on August 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM

He should have died in prison. Period. What a disgrace.

txag92 on August 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Well, I’m leery at interfering even diplomatically into another’s countries judicial matters but there are exceptions….

If al-Megrahi had admitted guilt and asked for forgiveness, okay, perhaps; but he hasn’t.

SteveMG on August 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll volunteer for a suicide bombing as soon as he’s free.

MadisonConservative on August 20, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Yes lets send the Gitmo detainees to the enlightened western europe, I am sure justice will be done.

rob verdi on August 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

If that had been an El Al flight instead of a Pan Am flight, his life expectancy would be quite a bit less than 3 months.

MarkTheGreat on August 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Can someone strangle the sob?

cjs1943 on August 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

wait… isn’t the point of a life sentence that people are in prison for life?

Chiasmos on August 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

And liberals wonder why people still want the death penalty enforced. Perhaps it’s because “life in prison” does not necessarily mean “life in prison”.

He’ll get a hero’s welcome when he arrives in Libya. Hope the Scots can appreciate the ‘compassion’ then.

GarandFan on August 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Please tell me how this guy deserves to die at home with his family and not in prison. And how is MacAskill “bound” by Scottish values to release him? What values are those? Is that the same thing as judging someone using the empathy argument, like our new Supreme Court Justice would do? Is MacAskill a “wise Scottish man”?

Wingnut Willie on August 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Screw Sweden and Scotland and all of Eurabia.

Disturb the Universe on August 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Do the F-35 jets need to demonstrate their firepower on other jets? I would like to see a demonstration today.

WashJeff on August 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM

I am sure Barry Hussein is happy to have one of his brothers in arms released…….Bill Ayers must be happy today too…..

Dispicable….

SDarchitect on August 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM

I was in London Christmas time 1988, doing a Charles Dickens Christmas with my family. Just after dinner in a small bed and breakfast, in the South End of London, the lady who owned the place walked into the dining room with a telly on a cart, saying, “A Yank plane just crashed up in Scotland.” As the evening wore on, and more details came out, live feeds from Lockerbie, there was silence in the dining room, well into the late night hours. Dozens of Brits, strangers, offered their condolences to the only American family in the room. Several offered to keep the kids amused while my then-wife and I watched, riveted to the TV. There were Americans from Germany on that flight, trying to get home for the holidays, and yes, a few who we had known or met along the way, too.

Heaven knows why Scotland decided to be “compassionate.”

I cannot fathom that decision.

coldwarrior on August 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Sympathy for the Devil.

Kenosha Kid on August 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM

DarkCurrent on August 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Sorry, didn’t see your comment before I posted mine.

cjs1943 on August 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM

How much “compassion” did his victims receive?

BlueStateBilly on August 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Can’t we waterboard him?

lorien1973 on August 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Question: Have any other convicted murderers been released from Scottish jails for compassionate reasons?

d1carter on August 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Truly disgusting.

becki51758 on August 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM

So if the @#$@head only had 3 months to live, release him in 89 days. This really stinks. So much for justice in Scotland.

rone5847 on August 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Are you trying to get banned, because I think that comment will work if that’s your intent.

scalleywag on August 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM

rone5847 on August 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM

What the cheese was that?

MadisonConservative on August 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Maybe if Fred Thompson had not given this terrorist legal advice on jurisdictional issues, then this murderous terrorist would have spent another ten years in prison rather than running free in the prime of life around Tripoli.

tommylotto on August 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM

He should have died in prison. Period. What a disgrace.

txag92 on August 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM

He should have died on the gallows. That’s the only remotely appropriate yet humane end I can think of.

DarkCurrent on August 20, 2009 at 12:28 PM

…sigh.

I had liked the Scots up to now. Now I see they don’t value American lives any more than the rest of the socialists do, including those in our own government.

Not that I want to see it come to this, but the world is really going to regret all this anti-American action and wanton stupid liberal socialism one day. They’re going to get ground into the dirt (ala WWII) and beg for American help. Will we refuse? I wish we would, but probably wont.

Spiritk9 on August 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Shame on Scotland.

redwhiteblue on August 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Send a terrorist with no reason to live to Libya. Smart move.

Daggett on August 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM

wait… isn’t the point of a life sentence that people are in prison for life?

Chiasmos on August 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Enough of that common sense. There is no room for it in a progressive society.

But really, what is the use of a life sentence if values dictate that you are released before you die?

The world is stupid.

Spectreman on August 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM

This is appalling. He’s an unrepentant mass murderer and terrorist. He deserves the same amount of compassion he’s shown to others — none. The Scots should be ashamed.

AZCoyote on August 20, 2009 at 12:32 PM

*Breaking News*

Pres. Obama and A.G. Holder have discovered that all of the remaining inmates at Guantanamo Bay have advanced prostate cancer.

red winger on August 20, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Maybe if Fred Thompson had not given this terrorist legal advice on jurisdictional issues, then this murderous terrorist would have spent another ten years in prison rather than running free in the prime of life around Tripoli.

tommylotto on August 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Hey, moron, he was sentenced to life in prison. What did Fred Thompson do to circumvent that? Nothing.

This Nazi jackHole should spend his rest of his miserable existence in a prison cell instead of being sent home. This is frigging ridic.

mjk on August 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Send a terrorist with no reason to live to Libya. Smart move.

Daggett on August 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM

They should just send him to Iraq with a suicide belt and skip the middle man. Because we all know that would be his plan.

mjk on August 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM

I’m thinking this is the type of “compassion” that is about to be bestowed upon the Gitmo detainees.

txag92 on August 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Somebody raise up the ghost of William, Duke of Cumberland and have him lay waste to the Scottish countryside like he did in 1745.

Percy_Peabody on August 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM

I hate just about every other country on the planet.

mankai on August 20, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Where is the compassion for the people this monster blew to smithereens? They didn’t get to see their families before they died.

As for the passive White House response: it would have been stronger had most of the victims been anything but American.

fireweednectar on August 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM

“Guilty as sin, free as a bird.” — William Ayers

“Ditto.” — Abdel Baset al-Megrahi

L.N. Smithee on August 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM

My ancestors were the Picts on my mother’s side.

I will not claim to be of Scottish descent again until the current Scots regain their right minds.

alice on August 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Wow, and I thought Stallworth got off light with 24 days.

NickelAndDime on August 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Hey, moron, he was sentenced to life in prison. What did Fred Thompson do to circumvent that? Nothing.

mjk on August 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Hey moron, Fred provided legal advice to the legal team fighting extradition for this terrorist scumbag. Thanks to the good work of Fred and his law firm, this terrorist was given the precious gift of ten years of freedom — before he was sentenced to life, before he was sick, and before Scotland would have freed him.

tommylotto on August 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM

I have visited Scotland many times and plan to do more of the same. The Scottish people are fiercely independent and I suspect that this is a controversial topic for them. The government sometimes does not represent the majority of Scots. Sound familiar?
I do not agree with this decision. I would like to know if other prisoners have been released on similar grounds. I have read comments at some Glasgow newspapers and there are many Scots who also disagree.
My thoughts and prayers are with the families of those who were killed at Lockerbie. To hell with Megrahi and those like him.

d1carter on August 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Send them a message.

Scottish Affairs Office, Washington DC

scotlanddc@fco.gov.uk

From the official website:

If you have comments or suggestions on any aspect of our work and how we can take it forward we would be delighted to hear from you.

Robin Naysmith
Scottish Government Counsellor for North America

Just sent them a note.

coldwarrior on August 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM

First time I’ve ever been ashamed of my Scotish heritage.

highhopes on August 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM

stupidliberal4evah: I don’t care.
Crap Blue: So what.
AnninCa: Huh?

jbh45 on August 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Send a terrorist with no reason to live to Libya. Smart move.

Daggett on August 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM

None of his victims got to see their loved ones before they died.

NickelAndDime on August 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM

11.57 days per victim.

Really puts it all into perspective. Great point Ed.

Hog Wild on August 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM

I would have taken a release from 31,000 feet – sans parachute.

For those who don’t remember, Pan Am 103 reached its cruising altitude of 31,000 feet just before the bomb went off, and none of the 270 people on board had parachutes.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM

http://snurl.com/ql3kr Int. article from the Scotsman on the this.

JiangxiDad on August 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM

If Bush were president, I am sure he’d have no hesitation in ordering CIA to round up this fellow and put him in Gitmo.

promachus on August 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM

tommylotto on August 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Yes, because Teh Fred! is the reason he’s being released.

Dude. Really? Out of left field on that one, no?

Califemme on August 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM

“Those who are kind to the cruel in the end will be cruel to the kind.”

progressoverpeace on August 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM

From William Wallace To Total Pussies in 700 years.

That’s quite a rapid decline.

omnipotent on August 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Mitch Rapp is gonna be pissed…

redshirt on August 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Make that “none of the 259 people on board had parachutes”. We really need an ability to edit comments here.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Dude. Really? Out of left field on that one, no?

Califemme on August 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM

More like the left-field bleachers.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM

I expect no justice on this side of the grave.

But I do believe justice comes to every man.

Abdel Baset al-Megrahi will pay for the lives he has taken.

Daddy-O on August 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Mitch Rapp is gonna be pissed…

redshirt on August 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Mitch Rapp would have already taken care of this POS.

jbh45 on August 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM

*ring…ring*

Operator: Xe Services (formerly Blackwater), how may I direct your call?

Caller: Libyan covert operations, please…

Operator: Just one moment…

NickelAndDime on August 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Maybe this is why Arlen Specter was so eager to invoke Scottish law.

Mr. D on August 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM

He wasn’t released on humanitarian grounds. The man had advanced cancer and the Scottish health service ran out of money to treat it; this was a cost-saving measure.

Bishop on August 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM

That is too outrageous for words.

jonezee on August 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Hey moron, Fred provided legal advice to the legal team fighting extradition for this terrorist scumbag. Thanks to the good work of Fred and his law firm, this terrorist was given the precious gift of ten years of freedom — before he was sentenced to life, before he was sick, and before Scotland would have freed him.

tommylotto on August 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM

I’m sorry, was LIFE IN PRISON hard for you to understand? Was he “free” during those ten years or was he in custody?

I think he should have gotten a bullet to the head there, buttercup. And Fred Thompson had zippo to do with this asinine decision.

Life in prison is life in prison. There shouldn’t be any other deal with this and some pathetic attempt to connect it to some lawyer from 10 years ago is well, moronic.

mjk on August 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Mitch Rapp is gonna be pissed…

redshirt on August 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Mitch Rapp would have already taken care of this POS.

jbh45 on August 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Lockerbie created Rapp, remember?

redshirt on August 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Three months in prison will not bring back one day with a loved one. I recognize that this issue is complicated and full of anxiety, and at the same time, I think that erring on the side of compassion is never a bad decision.

Frostbite on August 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM

He wasn’t released on humanitarian grounds. The man had advanced cancer and the Scottish health service ran out of money to treat it; this was a cost-saving measure.

Bishop on August 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Bullet to the head is cheaper than schlepping him to Libya. just saying…

mjk on August 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM

I must admit that I did not read the other comments. Mine is simple. I am for giving terrorists the same amount of compassion that they give their victims. I am from Texas, we may have a different view of the death penalty than some. They deserve to die and not be coddled. A firing squad would be fine with me.

TXMomof3 on August 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton phoned MacAskill before the announcement, urging him not to release al-Megrahi, and seven U.S. senators wrote a letter with a similar message.

I wonder if the Senate’s resident expert on Scottish Law — Arlen Specter — was one of the objectors.

Somehow, I doubt it — Specter was the lawyer on whose watch Earth Day co-founder/murderer Ira Einhorn fled to freedom in France.

L.N. Smithee on August 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Maybe if Fred Thompson had not given this terrorist legal advice on jurisdictional issues, then this murderous terrorist would have spent another ten years in prison rather than running free in the prime of life around Tripoli.

tommylotto on August 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Fred gave advice to a colleague of his who was on their legal team. If you think that advice made the difference, then you’re basically saying he’s one of the smartest lawyers in the world. If not, you’re pathetically smearing him.

MadisonConservative on August 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Three months in prison will not bring back one day with a loved one. I recognize that this issue is complicated and full of anxiety, and at the same time, I think that erring on the side of compassion is never a bad decision.

Frostbite on August 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Feel the same way if it were Eichmann or Mengele? Sorry. I have absolutely no compassion for this man. And I think we all know he isn’t going to stay in Libya.

mjk on August 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Three months in prison will not bring back one day with a loved one. I recognize that this issue is complicated and full of anxiety, and at the same time, I think that erring on the side of compassion is never a bad decision.

Frostbite on August 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Unless more innocent people happen to meet a man with nothing to lose and a grudge during that three month period, this is…

NickelAndDime on August 20, 2009 at 12:49 PM

He wasn’t released on humanitarian grounds. The man had advanced cancer and the Scottish health service ran out of money to treat it; this was a cost-saving measure.

Bishop on August 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Give him a pain pill and send him back to the rock pile.

Tommy_G on August 20, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Joe Biden: “I’ve told my family to stay out of confined areas and planes for the next 90 days.”

NickelAndDime on August 20, 2009 at 12:49 PM

One hopes that his prostate swells up to the size of those hemorrhoid pillows and explodes with enough force to catapault him through the walls of his mud hut in Libya.

If there is any consolation to this, he will die a slow, agonizing death from this type of cancer, shrieking each time he takes a whiz or screws a camel. Imagine how he will feel when he hits paradise with a limp willie and seventy-two virgin goats that need servicing.

VoyskaPVO on August 20, 2009 at 12:49 PM

“Great” Britain is dead. There is nothing “great” about a nation that shows such weakness and passivity to those that would destroy them from within and do so openly and proudly.

Yakko77 on August 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

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Scotland seems to have gone LIBERAL AMERICAN on this POS murderer.
***
Take him to the dungeon of the worst castle in Scotland and turn him over to the families of the Lockerbie bombing victims and have them provide some appropriate BRAVEHEART movie type punishments.
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Or if AN EYE FOR AN EYE approach fits better–tie him into a light aircraft with a time delay bomb aboard. Send it out to sea on autopilot so he can “enjoy” his remaining hour of life.
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Or leave him in prison to die–letting him loose is nuts.
***
John Bibb
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rocketman on August 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

I recognize that this issue is complicated and full of anxiety,

There’s nothing complicated about this.

and at the same time, I think that erring on the side of compassion is never a bad decision.

Frostbite on August 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM

You’re nuts, and a proponent of evil.

progressoverpeace on August 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Three months in prison will not bring back one day with a loved one. I recognize that this issue is complicated and full of anxiety, and at the same time, I think that erring on the side of compassion is never a bad decision.

Frostbite on August 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Try to remember that when this man who has literally nothing to lose, will die anyway in 3 months, and has already committed a horrible terrorist act straps a bomb to himself and kills more innocent people. Compassion for him aside (and it’s nice that you’re able to feel some, but I can’t muster up any) for the good of public safty alone he should never have seen the light of day again.

DrAllecon on August 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM

My heart goes out to the families of the people who were murdered by this animal. It’s a disgrace to release this man and allow him to go home and die with his family. He denied all those on Flight 103 both of those opportunities.

It saddens me to think that there were so many young people on that flight – the average age was 27 and this terrorist is treated wiith compassion.

SHAME ON THOSE WHO MADE THIS DECISION – I HOPE IT HAUNTS YOU CONSCIENCES FOR EVER.

IlonaE on August 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM

You’re nuts, and a proponent of evil.

progressoverpeace on August 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

OK that made me laugh.

elduende on August 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM

I wonder how the families of the 11 Scottish families affected by this atrocity feel about these compassionate grounds. Do they feel their “Scottish values” have been met with his release?

I also wonder – would this have happened when GW Bush was President? Or did the Great O-ppeaser just let this one slip by only to release a “strongly worded” statement after the fact?

KrisinNE on August 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM

I’m sure someone back in Scotland is alleging “Christian” values factored into this bad decisionmaking. In Christianity, just because you forgive someone, doesn’t absolve them of their crimes, and free them of their responsibility to pay for what they have done.

Me, personally, I would’ve let the guy go and put a bomb on the plane. Libya sent a private plane to go get the guy, and maybe after seeing their own plane go down, they might remember what it was like. If they asked me what happened, I’d say ‘it must’ve been some extremist; you know the type’. Reagan had the right idea; when they got out of control and opted against civilized behavior; when they opted to become a government of murderous, blood-soaked barbarians, he bombed them, and once that happened, we heard nary a word from them. During the Bush years, they proved they were still unreliable and unrepentant, and this is precisely the way they should be treated: as unreliable, unrepentant sponsors of state terror.

Virus-X on August 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Or if AN EYE FOR AN EYE approach fits better–tie him into a light aircraft with a time delay bomb aboard. Send it out to sea on autopilot so he can “enjoy” his remaining hour of life.

rocketman on August 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Beautiful

HoustonRight on August 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM

blockquote>Mine is simple. I am for giving terrorists the same amount of compassion that they give their victims. I am from Texas, we may have a different view of the death penalty than some. They deserve to die and not be coddled. A firing squad would be fine with me.

TXMomof3 on August 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Compassion, Texas style. (no problems here)

NickelAndDime on August 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM

tommylotto on August 20, 2009 at 12:26 PM

I’m with you, tommy. I like Fred, but if he helped this scumbag in any way, then that is a black mark against him.

progressoverpeace on August 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM

As I posted on the headlines thread:

There could be quite a bit more to this story, and it would involve Iran, Syria and Obama’s new “pragmatic” foreign policy.

Link 1: http://tinyurl.com/oz6vhj

notropis on August 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM

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