Poll: Obama 47, Huckabee 44
posted at 3:35 pm on August 20, 2009 by Allahpundit
That’s within the margin of error, kids, the first time Huck’s been that close despite consistently leading the GOP field in PPP’s polling on hypothetical match-ups with The One. They’ve posted extensive crosstabs for him, Mitt, Gingrich, and Palin; among the most striking numbers is Huck scoring a 61 percent favorability rating among conservatives versus just 49 percent for Romney. Mitt’s never going to shake the RINO label, is he?
He’s not the big loser in this poll, though.
Huckabee is not the most popular candidate among GOP voters though. While 66% of them have a favorable opinion of him, 72% have a favorable opinion of Sarah Palin.
Palin’s overall numbers have seen a pretty steep decline in the last month though. Two July surveys we conducted actually showed her numbers slightly improving from pre-resignation announcement levels, to a 47/45 spread. That’s now dropped to 40/49. Among Democrats she’s gone from 25% with a favorable opinion of her to 15%, and among independents she’s gone from 45% to 37%.
In her head to head contest with Obama, Palin is down 52-38 after her 51-43 deficit a month ago had been the closest we have measured for her to date.
Until this, the trendline in her favorables was upward. I don’t know how to explain PPP finding that she’s nosedived since late July, unless all the media screeching about her “death panels” comment is resonating with the public — which would be strange, given that public support for ObamaCare has been sinking steadily ever since she said it.
A revealing piece of data:
Huckabee rates positively with every educational group; Mitt is narrowly in the negative among college grads but otherwise positive for every group from high school grads on up. Palin’s numbers, by contrast, track steadily downward starting with high-school grads, where she has overwhelming support, up through grad-school grads, where she’s overwhelmingly opposed. I don’t know how to explain that, unless the media image of her as a know-nothing has stuck and this is a snapshot of how different groups react to it. And if it is, I don’t know how she begins to undo it. Exit question: Does mounting conservative disgust with Obama make Huckabee more viable as a nominee? Every time I post on him, the Huck-haters in the comments vow that they’ll stay home, won’t donate to the campaign, etc etc etc, but after three more years of Hopenchange I’m thinking you’ll be at the point where we could nominate Meghan McCain and you’d all be out knocking on doors. Second look at Huck?
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(by the way, from what I see, am I right to say this site attracts more libertarians than other types of “conservatives”?)
ChristianRock on August 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Personally I’d say it’s pretty evenly balanced. Most of the time it remains fairly collegial, which I appreciate. Alot of that balance, I think, comes from the fact that AP makes up 1/2 HA’s dynamic duo.
Archimedes on August 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Boehner, maybe.
Graham?
*sits in blinking stupor*
MadisonConservative on August 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Palin, DeMint and Bachmann are the only ones I’ve seen who would be willing to go for the Dem jugular.
ddrintn on August 20, 2009 at 5:28 PM
If conservative means anti-socialist/pro-capitalist, I’m all for conservative candidates. The problem is it doesn’t. You have other priorities that turn off many libertarians, classis free market liberals and independents.
Don’t get me wrong; I’m NOT arguing the Republican Party should get a moderate. Huckabee to me is a moderate; a wimpy character with no firm principles apart from his Christian values. That may make him appealing to conservatives, not to me.
We need an anti-socialist/pro-capitalist hardliner, someone who will defend the Constitution.
modifiedcontent on August 20, 2009 at 5:28 PM
I will volunteer and do all I can for anyone who runs against Obama.
blatantblue on August 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM
You know what is odd, Grahamnesty has stuck so well that I really did forget his name is just Graham.
myrenovations on August 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM
My fantasy? Palin as President, Bachmann as Speaker and DeMint as Senate Majority Leader.
yogi41 on August 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM
That comes easier when you don’t have quite so many on your own side telling you to F-off.
ddrintn on August 20, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Actually, it becomes easier when your enemy realizes that you can do it, and he / she will always be embarrassed you.
The Dead Terrorist on August 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM
I think that among Independents, Palin resignation hurt her. I understand why she did it, and I sympathize with her..but I am not sure that the rest of the country will feel the same way.
As for Huckabee, I know a lot of conservatives who say they can not tolerate him, but rank and file Republicans like the man.
Terrye on August 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Well, I don’t know if Dau of McCain can run, but if she’s in the err race, would you support her?
Upstater85 on August 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Why are people even talking about Meghan McCain?
Terrye on August 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Terrye, you know I can’t resist ;-)
Upstater85 on August 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Obviously I have more respect and admiration for Graham than most ’round here. But aside from that, face it…we’re going to need a moderate on the ticket. Remember, the veep doesn’t really do a whole lot. Cheney was an exception.
JetBoy on August 20, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Palin, DeMint and Bachmann are the only ones I’ve seen who would be willing to go for the Dem jugular.ddrintn on August 20, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Bachmann is tough and that is for sure!
Archimedes on August 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Palin does need to study up on the issues, and write about them… but the LAST thing she wants is to be seen as taking tuteledge from ANYONE associated with Washington… which Newt is.
2012 will be ALL about the anger of the Teaparty folks, and now the Anti Healthcare folks. Folks do not trust Washington at all… which is one reason Obama got elected… he was perceived as NOT being a Washington insider, which he was not… he’s a CHICAGO insider which is as bad, if not worse.
But he was elected on changing Washington (by those who did not really pay attention…).
If Palin buys into the Washington crowd… she looses a LOT of her support from the now very angry once “Silent Majority”.
Romeo13 on August 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Remember; whoever Allah is pumping or predicting for GOP nominee in 2012 is a sure to lose. Case in point, this is what AP said on March 27:
“Is Sanford the only candidate with a realistic chance of beating The One in 2012? Lately I’ve started to think so”
Norwegian on August 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM
I did A little snooping around and found this its a little hard to read, but basicly its a algorithm that determins the electibility of pres. nominees. Its a little outdated, Palin should be 33 and T-paw should be 88. Obama/Biden is 36, Huck is 121, Barbour is 88, Jindal is 58, Rudy is -110 unless he becomes gov of NY in 2010, then he will be -88, and Romney is -66. Any Republican over 36 would beat Obama
muffinmonster on August 20, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Jeb Bush will never run for Prez. One of his daughters has some emotional problems which are serious enough that he won’t subject her to the Media Rectal Exam.
Janos Hunyadi on August 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Thaddeus McCotter 2012
modifiedcontent on August 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Hmmm, second look at jimmy2shoes?
unwashed minion on August 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM
LOL
Huckabee/Crist 2012!!!!!!!!!
welcome_ghosts on August 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Huckabee is a tool and we would get crushed with him as a candidate. We can do better, much better.
enoughalready on August 20, 2009 at 5:41 PM
If the Republicans nominate another “Compassionate Conservative” like Huckabee, that is a fiscal liberal – social conservative, I will sit the next election out because I do not agree with either the fiscally liberal part or the socially conservative part of his stances.
Social conservationism is not by itself a winning electoral strategy without also being combined with fiscal conservatism. Nominating another Democrat-lite on fiscal issues will not ignite any enthusiasm in the average voter in the next election and will only result in a win for Republicans if voters vote more against Obama than for Huckabee. The best way to beat Obama in the next election will be to hammer him on his liberal fiscal policies, something Huckabee cannot do with his record.
Rocket-Man on August 20, 2009 at 5:42 PM
There are moderates that wouldn’t turn off certain factions of the right as fast as Graham would…
Upstater85 on August 20, 2009 at 5:43 PM
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Yeah… I’m paying attention to McCotter. I doubt 2012, but he’s a rising leader.
Upstater85 on August 20, 2009 at 5:44 PM
only if you’re a Democrat.
blatantblue on August 20, 2009 at 5:44 PM
As Levin says the country is a bunch of drones. Palin clearly explained why she resigned and I find it interesting that all has been silent in AK since she stepped down. Palin will continue to speak out and hopefully when her book comes out and she does the interview circuit these drones will see things differently.
Who are these rank and file republicans that support Huckabee? Obviously, they are watching FOX. But where are they in the blogosphere and why are they not donating to his PAC? Having rank and file GOPers is not going to cut it this time.
davek70 on August 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Agreed.
myrenovations on August 20, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Why do you continue to fantasize that Boehner is up and coming?
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM
WOWOWOW! Best US leadership trio since 1789.
Norwegian on August 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Why?
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 5:50 PM
I’m thinking we need to broaden out the base.
How about Sarah Palin-Louis Farrakhan for 2012?
Anders on August 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM
He has anal cancer.
Talk about an ulcerous a**hole…
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM
We’ve had this conversation before…
Upstater85 on August 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Mitt Romney is the father of a state mandated healtchare. He supposedly considered giving newborn babies in Mass. a laptop computer (I could be wrong on this) and other such big government proposals. If “limited government” is to be our rallying cry in 2012, Romney would be a poor choice indeed. Palin’s “bridge to nowhere” was essentially what Obama’s doing right now. A spending spree promising phantom jobs. Her “Aw shucks” hockey mom appeal has limited range.
I suspect some conservatives are growing wary of mainstream right leaning media urging them to embrace Romney or Palin by default. They’re just not that great. I would vote for Huck, if not other faces emerge in 4 years. Not that he’s a libertarian himself, but I won’t vote for Mccain 2. My first choice is Fred Thompson.
It’s pretty sad that evangelicals = whites people even to some conservatives. Huck will own the south, and if his campaign staff can connect to non white catholics (vietnamese, korean, Latinos), then who knows?
Mad Kimchi on August 20, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Because he is. And he is unafraid to stick it to the Democrats in the House.
The latest vid from John Boehner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egcIKZoNGd8
Again, it isn’t Graham…or even McCain…who turned off the far-right. It’s the other way around, the right turned of McCain…and yeah, would prob. do the same to Graham…which is why he’s in the VP slot.
JetBoy on August 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Mike Huckabee
That’s the Republican’s choice to run against Obama in 2012.
Who will Huck choose as his running mate? I hear there’s this really brilliant ex-Governor of Alaska… something about seeing Russia from her front porch? Sounds like a winning team!
welcome_ghosts on August 20, 2009 at 5:55 PM
It is funny that this poll just came out because although we are still a long way out, I was thinking about how damn likable Huckabee is, and like it or not, that counts for a lot. (look at the current President-he and his family are likable even though I despise his policies and think that he is permanently giving campaign speeches)
My two favorite candidates are Mitt Romney and Mitch Daniels, but Romney does not connect with people, and Daniels, at this point, has very little name recognition.
The person among GOP frontrunners who comes off as likable, confident, with a good sense of humor, and the ability to clearly explain ideas is Governor Huckabee. Don’t get me wrong, I would prefer someone much more conservative, but if it’s between he and Obama-I’m going to help Huckabee win the White House.
In the GOP debates, Huckabee consistently got drilled with religious-Biblical questions that I thought no one could handle well, and he laughed, pointed out that he was the only one receiving these questions, and then answered.
He was asked one question about the Biblical idea of a man being a leader in marriage, and he answered it unbelievably well by saying that a man and women should give 100% to each other–I was floored because I thought he was going to come off like a misogynistic nut, which is what the whole point of the journalist/news reader’s question was.
Who would help balance a Huckabee ticket? Someone presumably from outside the South, comes across as less religious, and with some national security credibility… any ideas?
sDs61678 on August 20, 2009 at 5:56 PM
The bridge to nowhere is the meme of the extreme left. It’s a non-issue.
So you want a filibustering, meandering, (poison) ivy-league babbler? Sorry, your statement doesn’t wash. I think Americans have realized that they were had by a Harvard grad con man. I also think they are fed up with DC insiders, who are dominated by east coast elitists, and will look to an outsider who speaks their language, plain and simple.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 5:56 PM
2012 will be ALL about the anger of the Teaparty folks, and now the Anti Healthcare folks. Folks do not trust Washington at all… which is one reason Obama got elected… he was perceived as NOT being a Washington insider, which he was not… he’s a CHICAGO insider which is as bad, if not worse.
Anger loses elections! And incompetence on the left…
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2009/08/amateur_hour_at_the_white_hous_1.html …and their blundering is all that is saving us right now, cannot be rectified by the same on the right. Gingrich is now far enough removed, and brings an “adult into the room” to install confidence. The markets will crater again with another nivice at the helm. Then there will be nothing left to save!
I personally think Palin can make a comeback if she plays an absolutey superb hand & with the right conditions, but only if. Obama’s immaturity is creating those conditions, if Palin polishes up on her gravitas & with a “rock steady” running mate, she just might make it.
Archimedes on August 20, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Rudy.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Allow me to suggest Palin/Bachmann 2012. And Gnarls Barkley’s “Crazy” as the official campaign soundtrack.
Spenol on August 20, 2009 at 5:58 PM
it had better be the VP part of the ticket
look, i’m all for Rudy or someone to be Sarah’s VP (a guy can dream!), but with or without Palin, we need a CONSERVATIVE (ie the BASE) in the TOP SLOT.
Let the squishies (rinos/moderates) have their precious VP.
Let’s take a look at history shall we?
2008 McCain/Palin – Mod/Con
2004 WBush/Cheney – Con (switched to moderate in 05)/Con
2000 WBush/Cheney – Con/Con
1996 Dole/Kemp – Modlite/Mod
1992 HWBush/Quayle – Mod/Con
1988 HWBush/Quayle – Mod/Con
1984 Reagan/HWBush – Con/Mod
1980 Reagan/HWBush – Con/Mod
1976 Ford/Dole – Mod/Conlite (at that time)
The BOLDED ones are elections we won.
Notice anything???????
battleoflepanto1571 on August 20, 2009 at 5:59 PM
No way on Gingrich. Ever since he held hands with Pelosi on glowbull warming, I’ve written him off. He is too squishy when it comes to environmentalism, and I’m fed up with that pseudo-religious crap. He’s also damaged himself personally by dumping his wife for a younger woman. Another McCain.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Well, that’s ok. Even if Mitt can’t shake the RINO label I’ll still take him as governor of Michigan. Anyone is better than Jennifer TAXUSTOFREAKINDEATH granholm.
This silly biotch wants to raise taxes on us AGAIN by over $700,000. That’s the liberal answer…chase the jobs away, blame bush, raise taxes.
Spiritk9 on August 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Sorry folks. Palin is done. She’ll be a powerful force in marshalling her millions of supporters behind a candidate, and let’s hope she doesn’t waste it in some long-shot who would give her the nod.
marklmail on August 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM
What is wrong with Boehner?
TXMomof3 on August 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Er, that should read $700,000,000. As in MILLIONS, not thousands.
Spiritk9 on August 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Plus, we know how he adores the libertarians /sarc
Upstater85 on August 20, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Boehner…..
(giggle)
Spiritk9 on August 20, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Acceptable moderates for VP only:
-Rudy
-Romney
-Steele
-Ridge(not after today)battleoflepanto1571 on August 20, 2009 at 6:02 PM
You are so wrong. You obviously don’t know history. Or politics.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Frankly, I don’t think any DC insider will win. There is a growing rage against Washington DC, and the American people no longer trust anyone that comes out there.
We need to look outside of the Beltway.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:04 PM
I don’t so much mind putting a moderate in the VP slot. I just kind of assume that it’s going to be Pawlenty, regardless of the person at the top of the ticket.
myrenovations on August 20, 2009 at 6:05 PM
This.
Ultra-fake tanning freaks do not make good POTUS material. So you can go ahead and cross Boehner & Crist of your list for 2012.
Norwegian on August 20, 2009 at 6:06 PM
@JetBoy, John Boehner would already be a much better option than Huckabee.
But lets compare Boehner and McCotter on “climate change”…
modifiedcontent on August 20, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Gladney/Plumber 2012?
Spenol on August 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Really? History says otherwise.
You use the anger of the electorate at your opponent to motivate your supporters… tie in a positive messege, and you are almost unbeatable.
Anger can easily be used as a motivating factor… you just have to be careful that you give it a “target”.
Right now, for many of us out here, the target is Washington… and the insiders… and the pundits… and the oligarchy which Washington has become (no more Bush’s, no more Clintons, no more Kennedys).
Like McCain was last election, Newt is part of the Washington insider game… he is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Heck, his very stance on Cap and Trade shows that… he was willing to make commercials for it, even though it is against everything he supposedly believes in (Free market, Freedom…).
Romeo13 on August 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM
I have no idea what this means.
All i knows is, if you look at exits polls, LOTS OF CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS STAYED HOME.
In fact, there were LESS ‘conservatives’ that voted for republicans number wise in 2008 than 2004.
Let that sink in.
We are a GROWING population.
Every election ought to have MORE of each group the next year, so that each election the winner and loser probably are #1-#2 ‘most votes ever in an american election’
And yet, the real number (not percentage) of conservatives voting republican DROPPED like a rock in 2008.
by like 2-3 million. So what happened? Well, there are only 3 outcomes:
*2-3 million conservative republicans “converted” to moderate after seeing the fabulous moderate GOP muck things up in 2005 & 2006
OR
*2-3 million conservative republicans decided to vote for a lifelong Marxist that sat in a church for 20 years that preached “G-d dmn America” (and then said marxist thought it prudent to get the damner for his daughter’s baptisms and for his autobiography)
OR
*2-3 million conservative republicans, even though many loved Sarah!, were totally turned off by John “democrat lite” McCain and his brave battle against earmarks.
battleoflepanto1571 on August 20, 2009 at 6:08 PM
You have never seen me say anything in support of Crist. You better take that back. Them’s fighting words!
TXMomof3 on August 20, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Huckabee, oh puhleeeese. We can thank him for Obama’s win. Lest we forget, he screwed Mitt in the primaries because he simply hates Mormons, look what we got now. I will work hard for his opponent. I do not trust the guy.
Dr Bob on August 20, 2009 at 6:09 PM
No way, no how, no Huck
Falz on August 20, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Somebody to tell the bigots to shut up.
aengus on August 20, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Oh look, it’s Obama’s little blue pill.
myrenovations on August 20, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Mea Culpa. I am sorry, I only meant that as a general rule, not suggesting that either of them were favorites of yours.
Norwegian on August 20, 2009 at 6:10 PM
I think Rudy would do the best job and could beat Obama; but getting the nomination with the order of states starting with Iowa and New Hampshire really handicapped him last time around.
Rudy’s Wall Street savvy from prosecuting Wall Street fraud and running New York city should look pretty good next to Obama’s cronyism and cluelessness on economics, finance and business.
KW64 on August 20, 2009 at 6:11 PM
1976: Reagan is done! He’s too old, and if he couldnt knock of Ford, the “actor” is toast
1980: HW as vp? He’ll never be president save a bullet. No way reagan gets re-elected AND bush gets elected. HW Bush should have tried harder in the primaries
1988: what a horrible DNC keynote speech. Bill Clinton is done!
1994: gays in the military? hillarycare is awful. clinton’s numbers are in the 29%-30% range. he’s done!
2000: McCain has no future in the GOP
battleoflepanto1571 on August 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM
No way on Gingrich. Ever since he held hands with Pelosi on glowbull warming, I’ve written him off. He is too squishy when it comes to environmentalism, and I’m fed up with that pseudo-religious crap. He’s also damaged himself personally by dumping his wife for a younger woman. Another McCain.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM
You have a point, I forgot about his squish on AGW, which is a crock of s**t! I have read far too much on our actually carbon impoverished planet to toleraye any more of that crap!
1) Earth’s climate and atmosphere have varied greatly over geologic time. Our planet has mostly been much hotter and more humid than we know it to be today, and with far more carbon dioxide (the greenhouse gas) in the atmosphere than exists today. The notable exception is 300,000,000 years ago during the late Carboniferous Period, which resembles our own climate and atmosphere like no other.
2)Similarly, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the Early Carboniferous Period were approximately 1500 ppm (parts per million), but by the Middle Carboniferous had declined to about 350 ppm — comparable to average CO2 concentrations today!
Earth’s atmosphere today contains about 380 ppm CO2 (0.038%). Compared to former geologic times, our present atmosphere, like the Late Carboniferous atmosphere, is CO2- impoverished! In the last 600 million years of Earth’s history only the Carboniferous Period and our present age, the Quaternary Period, have witnessed CO2 levels less than 400 ppm.
And 3)We are actually in an ice age climate today. However for the last 10,000 years or so we have enjoyed a warm but temporary interglacial vacation. We know from geological records like ocean sediments and ice cores from permanent glaciers that for at least the last 750,000 years interglacial periods happen at 100,000 year intervals, lasting about 15,000 to 20,000 years before returning to an icehouse climate. We are currently about 18,000 years into Earth’s present interglacial cycle. These cycles have been occurring for at least the last 2-4 million years, although the Earth has been cooling gradually for the last 30 million years.
These are cited from several Geological Studies totally unrelated to the AGW arguement, pure science/no politics. s science should be!
Archimedes on August 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Well, you can continue your hopes for Boehner. I’d vote for him over Obama, but he doesn’t seem to have gotten on the radar yet, so…
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM
You obviously are either an elitist or have a very limited knowledge of what’s out there.
Try again.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM
I will forgive you just this one time. I really don’t know who would vote for Crist. He scares me.
TXMomof3 on August 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Rudy Giuliani would have been president if the Republican primaries hadn’t been rigged to favor “the conservative base”.
modifiedcontent on August 20, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Have you seen the new GOP nomination schedule for 2012? Quite interesting. IA and NH will still go first, but then there is a new order where smaller states (predominantly Western) vote next. Potential huge upside for Palin, while potentially crippling for Huckabee (He didn’t win any Western state in 2008 as far as I know).
Norwegian on August 20, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Are you suggesting that republicans base their decision on the skin color of the candidates?
Regards from a real norwegian.
Spenol on August 20, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Romeo13 on August 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM
As noted above, I recant on Gingrich on the basis of his AGW stance.
Archimedes on August 20, 2009 at 6:16 PM
I don’t have a problem with Rudy, personally. I trust him to be tough on national security and to leave our guns alone. He is an excellent executive, but he is a “city slicker”, and I can’t see heartland America warming up to him. Now he and Sarah… though I can just see the media making it out to be a “Country bumpkin and city slicker” ticket.
But it could work.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:16 PM
I’m not voting for Huckabee ever.
Like Mitt, I’ll take me chances with Obama 2nd term and my guns.
I will not vote DemLite ever again.
F**K THAT!!!
by the way PPP sucks and everybody knows it. It is way to weighted with Post-Graduates.
Sapwolf on August 20, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Don’t forget, Newt was for Tarp, against Tarp, for Tarp and then against Tarp.
myrenovations on August 20, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Straw man. You’re a crappy thinker. Quit drinking and maybe your cloudy mind will clear up a little.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Hvor i Norge kommer du fra da? Og er ikke Spenol et produkt du bruker for ku jur?
Norwegian on August 20, 2009 at 6:18 PM
1. Palin is non-viable for 2012 & what’s worse is that she did it to herself with her resignation of the Governorship, and she polarizes people very quickly. Many journalists did an effective job of framing her as an intellectual light weight, who is strange.
2. Jindal-I love this guy, but his roll out was terrible, and he will not want to run into the buzz saw of an incumbent Obama, when he is young enough to wait and run later. He is incredibly intelligent, articulate, and Reagan-conservative…he’ll govern LA, and look towards the White House in the future.
3. Mitt Romney-intelligent, well spoken, with lots of executive experience. Will he be able to connect with people? Will his change of positions from run against Kennedy hurt him? Will he be responsible for Romneycare? (or Mass. Dems?) I love Romney–but will enough others?
4. Mitch Daniels-private and public experience. Tireless, effective campaigner, and applies conservative solutions to peoples’ problems. He is proactive, and would actually have a proactive domestic agenda-unlike most Republicans (which drives me batshit). Who is Mitch Daniels?…exactly.
5. Mike Huckabee-executive experience, well spoken, likable, and can attack without seeming mean. Will journalists frame him as a theocrat? (former Baptist minister) Will he excite the base with moderate governance in Arkansas? Will the base perceive him to be McCain 2.0?
6. Newt Gingrich-idea machine, articulate, plenty of legislative experience. Do people like him in his current role of focusing on ideas without being overtly partisan? Is the perception of Newt from the 1990′s too much to overcome among independents? Does Newt know that he doesn’t have a chance as a presidential candidate?
7. Jim DeMint-conservative stalwart. That is his position, and will be for the remainder of his political career. He is the Dick Armey and Jesse Helms of the Senate, and has no prospects among independents and moderates Republicans.
sDs61678 on August 20, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Don’t you just love it when these morons crap their rubber panties over “death panels”?
Not as much as Democrats do, apparently.
ddrintn on August 20, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Ixnay on the Orsknay, please.
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 6:22 PM
A lot can happen in 3 years. I think your dismissal of Palin’s viability for 2012 is premature. Study history.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Come on! The obvious answer to who should be Pres in 2012 is supifyingly easy.
ANYONE ON EARTH NOT OBAMA ’12.
I’ll take whatever we get, whether I like em or not, just to get someone that’s not a bigtime lib/progressive/sellout/Am.hater.
Just hold nose and vote, if necessary. I’ve been doing it since 1984. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you………
di butler on August 20, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Have you seen the new GOP nomination schedule for 2012? Quite interesting. IA and NH will still go first, but then there is a new order where smaller states (predominantly Western) vote next. Potential huge upside for Palin, while potentially crippling for Huckabee (He didn’t win any Western state in 2008 as far as I know).Norwegian on August 20, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Now THAT, IS interesting, didn’t know that. And I agree, it changes the landscape heavily in favor of Palin, at least thus far. As someone stated earlier this is way early for “inside baseball” prognostications.
Archimedes on August 20, 2009 at 6:23 PM
You had to hold your nose to vote for President Reagan?
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Pwned!
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Not good enough anymore.
myrenovations on August 20, 2009 at 6:26 PM
I disagree. If Palin were ever to run, and Huck were her opponent, she would OWN the South. Huckabee would be reduced to a greasy spot in the road. Bank on it.
ddrintn on August 20, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Vestlandet. Det får være spesifikt nok. :)
(Jo, Spenol er et produkt for kujur.)
Du da? Bor du i USA?
Translation for non-norwegians: “Bork, bork, bork.”
Spenol on August 20, 2009 at 6:27 PM
@Spenol, was dat niet de Zweedse kok?
modifiedcontent on August 20, 2009 at 6:30 PM
That’s correct. :)
Spenol on August 20, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Snakk engelsk!
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Come on! The obvious answer to who should be Pres in 2012 is supifyingly easy.
ANYONE ON EARTH NOT OBAMA ‘12.
I’ll take whatever we get, whether I like em or not, just to get someone that’s not a bigtime lib/progressive/sellout/Am.hater.
Just hold nose and vote, if necessary. I’ve been doing it since 1984. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you………di butler on August 20, 2009 at 6:22 PM
I must admit, I have hard time argueing against this logic. With posiible exception of Castro, can anyone actually be worse than Obama?
Archimedes on August 20, 2009 at 6:31 PM
More info here
After the ususal “first in nation” states; Alaska, North & South Dakota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming and Idaho will vote. All will be easy wins by Palin.
Norwegian on August 20, 2009 at 6:31 PM
This country is hugely polarized and Palin is a massively polarizing figure.
She could win but on current form that looks impossible.
A shame as she is a hot babymamma.
Anders on August 20, 2009 at 6:31 PM
This is very interesting and welcome news!
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 6:32 PM
I know two people who voted for Huckabee in the 2008 GOP primary: a co-worker who voted for him because her Holy Roller preacher told her to and my stupid, redneck uncle who thinks Mormons have horns. The man doesn’t exactly attract a big tent. Against Obama he’d do worse than McCain. A lot worse because he wouldn’t have a Sarah Palin-like running mate to energize the base.
Percy_Peabody on August 20, 2009 at 6:33 PM
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