Oh my: Obama down to 45% approval in new Zogby poll
posted at 9:00 pm on August 20, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I remember back in the day when “Zogby” used to be a curse word among conservative bloggers. Change:
Asked whether they approve or disapprove of the president’s job performance, just 45.3 percent of likely voters say they approve. That compares with 50.5 percent who disapprove of the job Obama is doing.
The results are a strong indication that contentious national debate over healthcare reform has taken a major toll on the president’s popularity…
Of greatest concern to Obama may well be his decline among all-important independent voters. Just 37.5 percent of self-identified independents say they approve of how Obama is handling the presidency. That compares with 59.2 percent of independents who disapprove…
Continued evidence of declining popularity there will ratchet up the pressure on congressional blue dogs and other conservative Democrats to go their own way on controversial proposals such as public-option healthcare and energy cap-and-trade, knowing they can’t rely on presidential coattails to prop them up with voters.
Quite so, which is why any righty blogger with any kind of audience should be trumpeting Obama’s declining numbers. The lower they go, the more pressure there is on Blue Dogs to kill the bill. Make sure they know it.
Dude, The One’s first term is now … totally wee-wee’d.
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Well on this post at least I can hit the rack in peace.
It has been one rough day.
fourdeucer on August 20, 2009 at 9:26 PM
I’ll have you know that it was the idiot messiah’s senior thesis on “Wee Wee” that got him into Harvard Law.
progressoverpeace on August 20, 2009 at 9:27 PM
“oh icarus, tempting fate again..”
blatantblue on August 20, 2009 at 9:27 PM
And this little piggy went wee wee wee all the way home…
red131 on August 20, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Because your idea of “compromise” is “do what progressives say or we’ll call you racist”.
First of all, you haven’t given up single payer. Barney Frank admitted on camera that this “public option” is the best way to the goal of single payer. Another liberal Congresswoman cheered on the destruction of the insurance industry as the result of a public option.
Second, government is involved in enough crap. Government got involved in the mortgage industry (Fannie/Freddie/CRA) and we got an economic collapse.
For starters, the public option is a trojan horse — again, as admitted by your leaders — for a single-payer system.
Second, your side won’t allow serious tort reform. Congressional Democrats have received far too much money from trial lawyers for that to happen.
Finally, you don’t need our help. You have an overwhelming majority in both the Senate and House. If you want to be angry with someone, look towards your fellow Democrats.
amerpundit on August 20, 2009 at 9:28 PM
First, tort reform is not on the table so long as Democrats control the debate.
Secondly, Beckel is a tool. He became super religious right after GWB won in 2004 and it appeared that social conservatives were a voting group. More recently, Beckel has been in the forefront of unquestioned Obama love. He is a professional leech.
highhopes on August 20, 2009 at 9:28 PM
lol Let’s save the toast until 2012, when it’s official.
karlant on August 20, 2009 at 9:28 PM
45 and when I wake up, it will be 43, then 41, then 39, then 37…eventually it will be around 12%, the guys who vote in mayors that smoke crack with whores….
right2bright on August 20, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Encouraging, but I won’t be celebrating till it’s closer to 20%…
Upstater85 on August 20, 2009 at 9:29 PM
No. Have you seen how much money they received from trial lawyers? If they want to keep the cash flow going, they won’t allow serious tort reform. And Democrats want to keep the cash flow coming.
amerpundit on August 20, 2009 at 9:29 PM
um baddest news? Joe Biden, your commander in chief and San Fran Nan, doing the dirty right between his legs (though he would be unaware of the action therewith!)
Chewy the Lab on August 20, 2009 at 9:29 PM
As was mentioned above, the party identification explains the difference. He’s flying high with Dems but lower than whale crap with Republicans and Independents.
His numbers with the Republicans aren’t ever going to get significantly better.
His numbers with the Independents COULD get better, but losing his aura of being a “new” kind of politician and reaching across the aisle kills a lot of those chances.
His remaining numbers depend on the Dems’ happiness with him. I figure that black people will be high on him for the most part, so that’s a safe 12-15% for him. The rest of the Dems, though, could start jumping ship if they see him either abandoning the policies they want and/or they see him screwing up the chance of a lifetime.
If he totally screws the pooch with ObamaCare, he’ll start bleeding Dems until he can find a way to get them back on his side.
teke184 on August 20, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Oh I so agree. But Afrolib apparently thinks it is.
I’m on board with that as well, but he’s the only one remotely connected to the Democrat Party who I’ve heard mention offering tort reform.
NoDonkey on August 20, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Because they were not registered voters. Probably a lot of illegals, too.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Somebody is going to have to change the diaper sooner or later. Otherwise those mom jeans are going to start to droop in the back. Didn’t take him long to stink the entire house up.
Yoop on August 20, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Keep in mind that Rasmussen is a 3 deay moving average. The last days poll is averaged against the 1st 2, thus moderating for anomalies, But tends to understate a radical shift. So if is Ras is at 48% and Zog is 45% these3 #’s almost corroborate each other, besides both are within the usual 3pt margin of error.
Food for thought.
Archimedes on August 20, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Remember, Bush didn’t have the media cheerleading him like Obama does. Think what his numbers would be like if the drive bys weren’t propping him up.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Beware of any “tort reform” in donkey clothing.
GaltBlvnAtty on August 20, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Are they that influential, though?
blatantblue on August 20, 2009 at 9:32 PM
OT: But this poll is by Zogby! And conservatives hate Zogby!
And conservatives are so closed minded and sneaky!
They can never stay on topic!
So, let’s get back on topic and discuss what matters to real conservatives!
How can we sneak through Obama’s single payer health care plan?
— ToandfroLibinCA
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Because it’s a horrible poll.
First of all, take a look at the bottom:
Second, it was a measure of “1,200 USA adults”. In other words, it includes people who’ve never voted and will never vote. It may also include illegal aliens and convicted felons.
Finally, I don’t see a party ID breakdown. Did they survey 1,199 Democrats and one Republican?
amerpundit on August 20, 2009 at 9:33 PM
They claim their support is worth 15%.
teke184 on August 20, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Touche.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Remember, Bush didn’t have the media cheerleading him like Obama does. Think what his numbers would be like if the drive bys weren’t propping him up.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 9:31 PM
atheling: Bush was lucky,if the MSM covered any of his
Press Conferences,Hopey is on 24/7!
ABC is practiaclly in-bedded in the White House!
canopfor on August 20, 2009 at 9:35 PM
doubtful
they are bleeding readers and viewers
i believe they are irrelevant
blatantblue on August 20, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Please don’t hold out for that. His support will never go below 30%. But if it ever gets below 40%, he’s toast.
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Yes dear.
Del Dolemonte on August 20, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Think of what this is doing to the MSM’s credibility.
They told America voting Obama was going to be an ice cream sandwich and it turned out to be a crap sandwich.
Bye-bye Dems and bye-bye MSM. You’re both exposed for the frauds you are and have always been.
NoDonkey on August 20, 2009 at 9:36 PM
So,then the poll is actually around the high 30’s!(Sarc).
canopfor on August 20, 2009 at 9:37 PM
This guy is just amazingly good with the bullshit jive talk.
For those who still buy that crap.
rogersnowden on August 20, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Zogby is unreliable. Period. Doesn’t matter whether it helps or hurts one’s case, you shouldn’t use his numbers as the basis for anything. He’s an artist, not a scientist.
DrSteve on August 20, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Maybe some Martha Vinyard pics of MO’s bare arms and BO’s wimpy chest will raise those poll numbers.
farright on August 20, 2009 at 9:38 PM
This guy is just amazingly good with the bullshit jive talk.
For those who still buy that crap.
rogersnowden on August 20, 2009 at 9:37 PM
rogersnowden: Hope has Changed!!:)
canopfor on August 20, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Wat a minute fair is fair! Let us not forget the smash up job by Jake Tapper, credit where it is due Loxo.
Archimedes on August 20, 2009 at 9:39 PM
I agree, but I think they will start dumping the bribe money for the mid terms. “Stimulate” the economy, create some “you dig the hole…you fill it in” type jobs to make the tiger disappear ala some Las Vegas magician.
Toss in some MSM bullcrap and a few ACORNs and it most likely will work.
Itchee Dryback on August 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Great point. Even with all their help and love, he keeps screwing up. I wonder if anyone in the media is smart enough to realize they have lost a lot of credibility and influence precisely because their love is so obvious.
pearson on August 20, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Don’t underestimate how many sheeple catch just enough of the MSM news to by swayed by the talking points.
You know the ones your age. :)
HoustonRight on August 20, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Zogby does not use random sampling. He uses pre-weighted block sampling, based on what he thinks the racial/religious/ethnic/political breakdown of a sample should be. So, when he gets the proportions right—when his gut, or whatever he uses to determine this (he has never released a full statement on his methodology), is correct—he is the best pollster out there. When he’s wrong, he’s really wrong. It’s a cool methodology (and useful for things were the proportions never change) but it is very high risk/high reward type system. This does allow him to capture real changes as they occur, but it also leads to general inconsistencies. Also, his personal bias can matter more than with other pollsters.
jlerner on August 20, 2009 at 9:41 PM
OK, fine. I’ll celebrate when it goes to 31%.
Upstater85 on August 20, 2009 at 9:43 PM
WATERLOO!!! WEEWEELOO!!!WATERPOO!!!Lance Murdock on August 20, 2009 at 9:10 PM
There you go. Again!
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM
chickasaw42 on August 20, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Look at Nancy. The botox isn’t what it used to be. Must be trying the ObamaCare formula.
http://images.politico.com/global/news/090820_pelos_ap_223.jpg
andy85719 on August 20, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Well
Like I’ve said
On one hand, we mock their waning readership and viewership, not to mention their stock values
Then we worry about influence
I seriously don’t think they have much!
blatantblue on August 20, 2009 at 9:45 PM
The march of the progressives
jerrytbg on August 20, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Needs to get down to at least 30 before I start breatheing a little easier.
ohiobabe on August 20, 2009 at 9:46 PM
So has anyone figured out if liberal4eva is liberal343, getalife, or crc or whatever his name was? :P
Tuari on August 20, 2009 at 9:46 PM
I’m with Lox. I do not think he will go much if any below 40. The dems are more blind in their faith than reps.
HoustonRight on August 20, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Ah–Seen any change lately?
chickasaw42 on August 20, 2009 at 9:48 PM
This is wonderful news. Who would have thought he would tank so quickly. It will be interesting to see if he cracks under the pressure. He has never really faced opposition.
TXMomof3 on August 20, 2009 at 9:48 PM
That pretentious whistling he does at the end of sentences drives me bonkers.
TTheoLogan on August 20, 2009 at 9:48 PM
The Great Awakening.
<
I’ve posted that same comment more than once around here. And it just keeps getting Greater.
Hope is being restored.
bridgetown on August 20, 2009 at 9:49 PM
I hear ya. I don’t watch them either but somehow they manage to p*ss me off.
HoustonRight on August 20, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Or what any normal person would consider an actual “job”.
We should make this guy wear a “trainee” button.
NoDonkey on August 20, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Yep, it’s always been who he knew, and how much they had.
Ozprey on August 20, 2009 at 9:51 PM
You may have heard some fishy stories from that purported journalist, Jake Tapper.
But he just wants our wee-wee-in-chief to wither away!
Tapper is un-American!
— LindaDugmoreinCA
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 9:52 PM
I used to get sooooo mad
UGH!
F THIS F THAT
But then I realized I couldn’t have it both ways.
Either, they are influential, or they are not.
I’ve come to realize they are not. I don’t get so mad anymore.
blatantblue on August 20, 2009 at 9:52 PM
This is what I most dread and most look forward to at the same time. He Will Crack. And it won’t be pretty. I think we are seeing bits of it now. The most fun will be watching the reactions to it, from hollywood/media to main street to dc.
Reality TV at it’s finest. Can’t wait.
bridgetown on August 20, 2009 at 9:52 PM
I’m pretty stoked that the race baiting/race card is not keeping up his pole numbers.
the unfortunate thing is eventually it will become like the maccarthy communist accusation… when it’s actually true, it won’t be taken seriously.
TTheoLogan on August 20, 2009 at 9:53 PM
Given that liberal4eva has the same narrative about Compassionate Christians or something as liberal343, I’d say we got a match.
Upstater85 on August 20, 2009 at 9:53 PM
TTheoLogan on August 20, 2009 at 9:53 PM
The reality..is that this nation is NOT racist.
The reality is slowly setting in and Obama’s gonna freak out.
bridgetown on August 20, 2009 at 9:54 PM
C-SPAN anymore….and so it’s come to this…
Ozprey on August 20, 2009 at 9:55 PM
I think the media has shot themselves in the foot with the racist meme. Joker is racist, socialist is racist… blah blah blah.
TTheoLogan on August 20, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Some say they are better known as AllahPundit
CWforFreedom on August 20, 2009 at 9:56 PM
AP says Michael Schmernosh is Right Wing Talk Radio?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090821/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_health_care
Didn’t Schmernosh or whatever his name is ENDORSE OBAMA during the 2008 campaign?
Add Schmerny to the list *if he wasn’t already on it.
Hey, Schmerny maybe you can take Gibbs job after they throw him under the bus.
PappyD61 on August 20, 2009 at 9:56 PM
That’s what I was thinking. Spent a while watching the argument yesterday. I think parrots have more variation in their speech then liberal and liberal do. :P
Tuari on August 20, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Please use language appropriate to Barry’s age group. Thanks.
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 9:59 PM
It’s kind of hard for a guy who got elected entirely because of his race, to whine about people disapproving of his performance, because of his race.
But he’ll do it anyway. It’s all he’s ever had.
NoDonkey on August 20, 2009 at 9:59 PM
I actually thought that too. Maybe it was him playing devil’s advocate cut and pasting from a script or something.
Tuari on August 20, 2009 at 10:00 PM
I’m sure he will, I’m just saying if you continue to say everything is racist, it won’t mean anything anymore, which is unfortunate because like every other COUNTRY On the planet, there are some people that actually are victims of racism in this country sometimes.
TTheoLogan on August 20, 2009 at 10:00 PM
They’ve called me a racist. They will learn that I don’t judge them by their skin color, but by..who they are. And I’m not alone in that. It’s fabulous and scary at the same time. There are many people comfy in that war of colors.
bridgetown on August 20, 2009 at 10:00 PM
HILLARY OR ANOTHER WOMAN WILL BE EITHER AT THE TOP OR VEEP IN 2012…BET ON IT
Reason?
Two Words….Sarah Palin.
If Palin runs (not a guarantee) and get the nomination (not a guarantee) then the Dems MUST pick a woman. If BHO tanks even worse (hey cut some slack, he’s only 6 months into his term and he’s still got many more crisis not to waste) then the Superdelegates could give it to HRH HRC. They also might be grooming Claire McCaskill or Hillebrand from NY for the VEEP Dem slot….maybe even Blanche Lincoln from the South (Palin stronghold).
Any one else have an opinion on this?
PappyD61 on August 20, 2009 at 10:02 PM
We used to love Zogby back in the 90’s – he was nearly dead on in 1994. I don’t know what happened lately and that disastrous reversed poll.
No dude, there doesn’t. We have already compromised with medicare and SCHIP (and HMOs) in the “critical” program of health care. You want *more* compromise? Nice try at incrementalism there. Won’t work.
Oh, and your side hasn’t yet given up single payer, so you won’t get a single inch from us.
But I’d be amenable to your side allowing tort reform (as if) and interstate access, and give you the “public option” as long as it wasn’t perpetually subsidized by tax dollars and had to compete with private insurance and other non-profit health care companies (Blue Cross/Blue Shield) evenly – that means no determining what plan “qualifies” to compete with the public plan and no tax penalties for not using the public plan.
JeffWeimer on August 20, 2009 at 10:03 PM
TTheoLogan on August 20, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Racism is so very far down on the list of things this country needs to be worried about, it barely registers above bee stings.
If it didn’t serve the Democrat Party’s need to get stupid people to vote for them, we would never hear about it.
NoDonkey on August 20, 2009 at 10:04 PM
In full candor, I think he has already cracked under the pressure. His first response is to go into full campaign mode and hold press conferences or town halls. He still thinks that the people love him so long as he stays in the limelight. The reality is that the filthy liar actually loses points when he keeps showing up in every debate.
Not only do we get the filthy liar talking about state seizure of healthcare but we also get to hear about his opinions on police matters in Cambridge, MA and other such things that should be so beneath his office.
highhopes on August 20, 2009 at 10:05 PM
http://charliefoxtrotblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/great-town-hall-sign.html
CWforFreedom on August 20, 2009 at 10:05 PM
President Wee-Wee.
From TheUnrepentantGeek who has an updated image you might want to see as well.
Loxodonta on August 20, 2009 at 10:06 PM
The Snoop Dog Dems would go ballistic.
Think Rodney King riots during the entire election cycle. Ye gods.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 10:09 PM
All I can do is LOL.
The american people are waking up to this obamination and it is a lovely sight to behold.
marmaran on August 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Excuse me, but our country is about to fall deep into the arms of a committed socialist because conservatives have compromised on virtually everything. It’s the damn democrats that never compromise.
The only way the sickness of progressivism advances is when we give up our principles and don’t stick to our guns.
No more compromise.
darwin on August 20, 2009 at 10:12 PM
and he will forever be known as Wee-Wee Obama. lol
TampaBayBull on August 20, 2009 at 10:13 PM
I did. I voted for McCain. He lost.
TTheoLogan on August 20, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Give a lib a hand, they’ll ask for the whole arm. :P It’s about time we start just giving them the finger. :D
Tuari on August 20, 2009 at 10:15 PM
The best part is, every independent that wakes up to the nightmare of Obama is another person who will likely not watch MSNBC.
jhffmn on August 20, 2009 at 10:15 PM
What’s MSNBC??
TampaBayBull on August 20, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Bad news – it’s Zogby Interactive, the untrustworthy self-selected poll.
Good news (at least for us) – the trend is not Obama’s friend.
steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Because we are the party of KNOW.
proudteadrinker on August 20, 2009 at 10:18 PM
I agree … and a big hell no!
darwin on August 20, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Please tell me you’re not picking on Ann, Lox:)
Lanceman on August 20, 2009 at 10:20 PM
And what will most likely be B.O.’s reaction to the fact that his poll numbers are now starting to get lower with each passing day?
Answer: Time to get Michelle out there wearing something fashionable!
pilamaye on August 20, 2009 at 10:20 PM
He’s cooling off faster than the Earth!
What was Bush’s lowest number? I want Uhhhhbama to be that minus one. THEN I’ll be happy.
darwin-t on August 20, 2009 at 10:20 PM
OT:
In the headlines, there’s a story by Michael Yon, “Do Americans Care about British Soldiers?”.
It was so moving that it brought tears to my eyes.
It should go viral.
atheling on August 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Post Turtle: “This plan will expand coverage to every American (and Mexican) while dramatically decreasing costs. I can’t explain any specifics or how gov’t is suddenly going to be efficient. You’ll have to settle for utopian generalities beaming from my teleprompter.”
metric on August 20, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Obama: “cable chatter”
We’re back to hearing discourse on the Right described by Obama as “chatter” again.
Whoa, what’s with those dark circles in this clip under the Bamster’s eyes? My grandmother used to get like that when she drank. Now, of course I’m not sayin’ he’s drinking–I’m just saying what my grandma used to do.
labwriter on August 20, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Parading Warf around? Yuck that’s not going to help him at all.
metric on August 20, 2009 at 10:26 PM
More accurate?
Hog Wild on August 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Ah man…the bigger they are, the harder they fall.
Terrye on August 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Sadly I believe this may happen anyway, just a nasty feeling.
thomasaur on August 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Conservatives didn’t use to have such scorn for Zogby. He was the most accurate of all the polls in both ‘96 and ‘00. What turned us off was his exit polling on Election Day in 2004 that showed a Kerry landslide victory. To his credit, he apologized on his website for the inaccuracy. If he says that Bambi has a 45% approval rating then who am I to argue?
Percy_Peabody on August 20, 2009 at 10:29 PM
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