AIP Column: AARP’s Willful Blindness

posted at 1:36 pm on August 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Does the AARP not recognize the danger in the wage-stunting impact of ObamaCare, or do they just have another agenda than seniors in mind?  My latest column at American issues Project looks at the problems facing another troubled entitlement program, Social Security, and the dangers of more rapid insolvency from a decline in wages caused by Barack Obama’s health-care reform plans.  The AARP seems either unable or unwilling to connect the dots:

Earlier this month, Steven Nyce and Syl Schieber produced a study for Watson Wyatt on the impact that Obama’s overhaul of health care would have on wage growth and productivity. Nyce and Schieber found that expanding coverage would necessarily increase costs of benefits to employers, which would depress wage growth. In each scenario of cost growth and productivity, the impact of the overhaul cut real wage growth, and in some scenarios actually result in wage declines. …

But what has this got to do with the AARP? Someone needs to tell them that falling wages will accelerate insolvency for Social Security. The Social Security Adminstration already knows this. In its solvency projections for this year, SSA projects that Social Security will hit insolvency in 2033 as long as real wage growth remains at 3.3% (and inflation at 2.8%) annually; in the previous seven years, we’ve been at 3.2%. For wage growth of 4.5%, insolvency gets put off to 2044.

However, with the implementation of health-care reform, the benefits costs either slow wage growth considerably, or in fact push wages downward. Since Social Security tax rates are linked to income, slower or nonexistent wage growth means less revenue for the SSA. Less revenue means that insolvency will come more quickly than current projections. The Nyce-Schieber study’s scenario that uses the Medicare experience shows that the reform will increase SSA deficits by as much as 25% in the aggregate over the next 75 years, hastening insolvency or massive taxation and benefit cuts.

In other words, ObamaCare will depress Social Security revenues, which will either push the program into insolvency or create the needs for tax increases and/or benefits cuts.  The pursuit of this kind of government-run system will actively and significantly reduce the living standards of the very group the AARP purports to represent.  Yet instead of connecting these dots themselves and demanding a stop to ObamaCare, the AARP has chosen to remain on the sidelines — even though they screeched from the rafters over a Social Security reform hypothesis in early 2005 that never made it into a bill.

Seniors have to ask themselves: does the AARP represent them, or another political agenda altogether?

By the way, those solvency projections may still be too optimistic, according to Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL), who says Social Security will enter deficit spending in the next two years, not in the next decade, as projected earlier (via Steveegg):

Social Security could face a deficit within two years, according to U.S. Rep. Spencer Bachus who met with The Tuscaloosa News editorial board Tuesday.

“The situation is much worse than people realize, especially because of the problems brought on by the recession, near depression,” said Bachus, R-Vestavia Hills, in an interview with the Tuscaloosa News editorial board. …

The solvency of Social Security, which provides pensions for people older than 65, has not played a major role in the current debate about health care in Congress. Bachus said it will not likely be addressed in any health-care bill the House eventually passes, although if a Social Security bailout is needed, it will invariably have an impact on government health-care programs.

I warned about this in March and in May.  The entitlement disaster already looms, and this administration wants to offer the hair of the dog.

Don’t forget to check out the other great writers and bloggers at AIP when you read the rest of my column.  Lorie Byrd looks at the polls and discovers that there never was a liberal mandate.  Melissa Clouthier sees Americans holding their breath, worried about what Democrats will do next.  Despina Karras can’t decide if the public option is an ex-parrot, feeling happy, or only mostly dead.  Jimmy Bise says it’s more like Night of the Living Dead.

Update: Bachus is from Alabama, not Tennessee.  I’ve fixed the reference above.

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The AARP, like most non-profits in this country with cash, has been taken over by leftists.

The membership is blissfully unaware and can’t imagine that anyone would do this.

faraway on August 20, 2009 at 1:39 PM

The AARP is like the National Council of Churches. A bunch of stuffed-shirt liberals claiming represent the lay people.

SouthernGent on August 20, 2009 at 1:41 PM

AARP is a union for old people, and the union bosses have their own interests in mind as all union bosses do.

Time for the oldsters to gather in a great, gray mass and make themselves heard.

Bishop on August 20, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Seniors have to ask themselves: does the AARP represent them, or another political agenda altogether?

Rheorical question, right? AARP screamed bloody murder when the idea of privitization of Social Security for younger people was proposed by the Bush Administration and now they have endorsed in principle the state seizure of healthcare that DOES effect their members directly. Clearly they are liberal activists more than anything else.

highhopes on August 20, 2009 at 1:42 PM

I am seething out here in California. Next March I am eligible for Medicare (guess what?) and the year after for Social Security (guess what again?)..

..if this keeps up, there won’t be only the Ron Paul kooks showing up at these town hall meetings with their AR-15s.

VoyskaPVO on August 20, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Melissa Clouthier sees Americans holding their breath, worried about what Democrats will do next.

Dems are pushing this nation to break up. They can push wahtever un-Constitutional, nation-killing, anti-individualistic legislation they want, but in the near future states will leave.

It won’t be long before this becomes part of the public discussion.

progressoverpeace on August 20, 2009 at 1:45 PM

AARP is at its core an insurance company, it really is only that…and with the health care they are guaranteed to be able to sell their insurance…the rest about social security or any other “age” related problem is of little concern…unless it affects their insurance program.

right2bright on August 20, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Thanks, Ed. I hope the servers can handle the traffic.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Bishop on August 20, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Sounds like the oldsters are indeed rebelling. But AARP still airs ads on foxnews.com to try to get folks to write their congressmen to get hinderances to health care reform out of the way. They are admitting to 60,000 folks so far cutting up their AARP cards, so it is likely much higher than that. Yet AARP continues to toe their ideological line. Sort of like Obama. Go down spouting the ideological lie rather than represent the people and survive. (Oh and while Obama puts down those “astroturfed mobs”, AARP’s ad makes it look like anyone against Obamacare is for killing people.

Christian Conservative on August 20, 2009 at 1:47 PM

AARP is at its core an insurance company, it really is only that…
right2bright on August 20, 2009 at 1:46 PM

AARP is a giant ATM that it’s execs use to promote leftist policies.

faraway on August 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM

The entitlement disaster already looms

That’s the point.

See Cloward-Piven strategy.

Daggett on August 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Who runs the AARP and how old are they? I’m willing to bet they are not even eligible to be members. Two weeks prior to turning 50 I began receiving invitations to join and at the time I wrote to them to take me off their list until their left wing policies changed. Since that time I continue to receive invitations and each time the same response, not until left wing policy changes. It has been 9 years.

I’ve not seen anything from AARP that I need or want.

hip shot on August 20, 2009 at 1:50 PM

It is very similar to Dear Leader…he and his elitists know what best for the rest of us. The AARP has not represented seniors in years. This episode just brought it to light for the members. If they admit 60,000 members have left them, it is really a much large multiple.

d1carter on August 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Welcome back seniors! You have been taken advantage of far too long. Keep speaking up at these town halls and let em have it………Your voices are far too important and you deserve our respect

justonevictory on August 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Hey Ed, Spencer Bachus is (R, AL-6). Though I’m sure TN would love to have him.

DrSteve on August 20, 2009 at 1:53 PM

None of this is about “healthcare.” It’s about dictatorial control over the most intimate decisions we can make – our health and the health of our loved ones.

The State wants power over us. The State wants to dictate to us.

This is not about “healthcare.” America is on the edge of disaster.

OhEssYouCowboys on August 20, 2009 at 1:53 PM

1-888-687-2277 to cancel your AARP membership

faraway on August 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM

AARP sells a supplemental policy. Think of the commission income.

Vashta.Nerada on August 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM

1-888-687-2277 to cancel your AARP membership

faraway on August 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM

I called a couple of weeks ago to cancel…they asked for my number, I gave them a social security and name, they looked it up and said I wasn’t a member…I retorted “I know I am not a member, but if I was, I wanted you to know that I would cancel my membership”…click is all I heard.

right2bright on August 20, 2009 at 2:00 PM

How many new members did they get while losing 60k?

Christien on August 20, 2009 at 2:01 PM

This is not about “healthcare.” America is on the edge of disaster.

OhEssYouCowboys on August 20, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Our disaster was in November. We are on the edge of further effects of that disaster.

HoustonRight on August 20, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Some random SocSecurity numbers from my post Ed linked to:

- April had a net positive inflow (less “net interest”, which really is a future tax increase) of just under $20.5 billion. That compares very unfavorably to April 2008, which had a net positive inflow of about $24.3 billion.

- May had a net negative inflow of $1.9 billion, compared to a net positive inflow of $3.1 billion in May 2008. (6 of the prior 10 months once the “false positive” in December 2008 caused by “net interest” is factored out).

- The rolling 12-month net inflow as of May is just $43.3 billion, $8.9 billion less than that number in March, and $33.6 billion less than that number in March 2008.

Don’t forget that Medicare Part A (the inpatient portion) is already running a yearly deficit, and the only reason Parts B (outpatient care) and D (prescription drugs) aren’t is rates increase automatically, especially on the top 25%.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Unable?

Unwilling on steroids and one-a-day.

Limerick on August 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Nice sleuthing by steveegg.

The tracking of the month-by-month flows in Soc Sec has been fascinating this year; that’s the way to do it, because as steveegg indicated, there are lumps in the data. The interest credits blur the picture a couple of times a year, and the attribution of benefit tax payments to the TF is also lumpy from month to month. One has to compare each month to that of the previous year, as steveegg has done, to really see our chances of going into the red this year.

Chuckles3 on August 20, 2009 at 2:11 PM

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Somebody is going have to explain to me why healthcare, which most Americans are happy with, is so danged broken that reform has to be rushed through in three weeks on a partisan basis and not a peep from the filthy liar about Social Security! Like GWB or hate him, at least he attempted to do something about this issue.

highhopes on August 20, 2009 at 2:11 PM

The same generations that fought against tyranny, and communism, are now paying dues, to support it.

capejasmine on August 20, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Ignorance is bliss. They bought into this farce, ponzi scheme called Social Security Insurance eighty years ago. Forty three years ago they bought into medicare.

It was said by the communists years ago that Americans will never buy into this communist agenda all at once but they will take it one step at a time until one day they will wake up to a socialist country.

Our old folks are ignorant of what the DemonRats have been planning. They just want to enjoy their retirement so they don’t pay attention and read between the lies. Now they’re in a hard place whining about national health care and the prospect of rationed care. They already swallowed the poison of socialism and now they just complain about how it makes them feel. I ask them, what did you expect from socialists, the truth, compassion, kum-baya? Enough ranting.

larvcom on August 20, 2009 at 2:14 PM

I called a couple of weeks ago to cancel…they asked for my number, I gave them a social security and name, they looked it up and said I wasn’t a member…I retorted “I know I am not a member, but if I was, I wanted you to know that I would cancel my membership”…click is all I heard.

right2bright on August 20, 2009 at 2:00 PM

ROFL!!!!! Whooo Hoooooo Good for you! LOL

capejasmine on August 20, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Oh, I forgot to mention the consequences for not being diligent in researching a presidential candidates. Some stayed home others were willfully blinded by promises from the devil.

larvcom on August 20, 2009 at 2:18 PM

larvcom on August 20, 2009 at 2:18 PM

I know you’re speaking in generalities so it’s ok. My father who is 86 and fought in the pacific theater and his friends do not fall into either of your categories. Nor do I. Just saying.

HoustonRight on August 20, 2009 at 2:21 PM

The tracking of the month-by-month flows in Soc Sec has been fascinating this year; that’s the way to do it, because as steveegg indicated, there are lumps in the data. The interest credits blur the picture a couple of times a year, and the attribution of benefit tax payments to the TF is also lumpy from month to month. One has to compare each month to that of the previous year, as steveegg has done, to really see our chances of going into the red this year.

Chuckles3 on August 20, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Thanks. It is interesting. I do factor out the interest credits (which mostly hit in June and December), as they are nothing but future general-fund tax increases.

I believe I explained why there are spikes back in May, but I’ll do so again. While SocSecurity’s (and Medicare Part A’s) expenses are relatively-constant month-to-month, revenues are anything but. In addition to the “false-positive” interest credits, there are 4 massive monthly inflows which generally match up to the due dates of the quartely estimated tax payments – January, April (the big one), June and September.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Someone needs to tell them that falling wages will accelerate insolvency for Social Security.

The Obama administration employs static economic models to help them paint pretty pictures of our economic future under Obamacare. Unfortunately our economy is anything BUT static. Has the AARP been fooled by the WH fiction? Or are they only interested in helping Obama maintain the fiction? Don’t know…don’t care. I cancelled my membership years ago.

Dee2008 on August 20, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Somebody is going have to explain to me why healthcare, which most Americans are happy with, is so danged broken that reform has to be rushed through in three weeks on a partisan basis and not a peep from the filthy liar about Social Security! Like GWB or hate him, at least he attempted to do something about this issue.

highhopes on August 20, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Simple answer – Obama isn’t counting on Social Security to take him through retirement.

Slightly-longer answer – The Boomers are too numerous to get denied, but the Gen-Xers (which includes me) are the ones that will be facing the music once the mythical “Trust Fund” gets exhausted. Since the youth (the Obama election notwithstanding) are not as politically powerful as the Boomers, and because too many people believe the lie that the “Trust Fund” is funded, every attempt to reform SocSecurity (and the related Medicare Part A) has failed.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Has the AARP been fooled by the WH fiction? Or are they only interested in helping Obama maintain the fiction? Don’t know…don’t care. I cancelled my membership years ago.

Dee2008 on August 20, 2009 at 2:21 PM

AARP only looks at the next 10 years (if that). I wonder whether, come 2016, they’ll start having buyers’ remorse.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM

I do factor out the interest credits (which mostly hit in June and December), as they are nothing but future general-fund tax increases.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Exactly. Now why is it that a blogger from Milwaukee understands this, but half the “experts” I speak to in DC do not? I guess one must actually want to understand.

Chuckles3 on August 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Exactly. Now why is it that a blogger from Milwaukee understands this, but half the “experts” I speak to in DC do not? I guess one must actually want to understand.

Chuckles3 on August 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Simple; I’m not invested in propping up the system like those “experts”.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 2:29 PM

The membership is blissfully unaware and can’t imagine that anyone would do this.

faraway

The membership is not blissfully unaware, they are willfully ignorant, or worse. The AARP has been a strong arm organization since it gained relavence, they have used various canards, with the support of the elderly to push their socialist agenda. Anytime a conservative or libertarian tried to advance personal accountability, the AARP has advocated against it. The elderly are onboard AARP as long as it empowers them, but make no mistake, elderly does not mean stupid.

Rode Werk on August 20, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Now Boomers need to encourage the younger generations to reproduce early and often.

obladioblada on August 20, 2009 at 2:32 PM

larvcom on August 20, 2009 at 2:14 PM

My grandfather, who would be over 100 were he alive today, hated FDR with a passion and KNEW he was a socialist. My own father, gone for over 10 years now, felt the same way. When I become eligible for Medicare in a few years, my employer provided health insurance will end. I don’t like it but there isn’t anything I can do but look for private insurance. None of us were given a choice whether to contribute to social security or government run insurance programs. Luckily for my grandfather and my dad, they got some of their contributions back. I don’t expect to.

Instead of deriding those senior citizens who are fighting for our rights–yours and mine–you should be thanking them.

Dee2008 on August 20, 2009 at 2:34 PM

What gets me about AARP is that they seem to be staffed by folks younger than me. And I ain’t all that old.

You should not be able to work FOR AARP unless you can answer the following questions:
1) Where were you and what were you doing July 20th, 1969?
2) Where were you and what were you doing November 22, 1963?
3) Two singers were killed in the same plane crash that took the life of the Big Bopper. Name them.

kurtzz3 on August 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM

Can’t wait for AARP to flatline.

TXUS on August 20, 2009 at 2:45 PM

AARP CEO gave beaucoup bucks to the Obama campaign.

Shirley on August 20, 2009 at 3:00 PM

One of the executive directors for AARP worked for Geraldine Ferraro. Enough said.

hip shot on August 20, 2009 at 3:01 PM

The same generations that fought against tyranny, and communism, are now paying dues, to support it.

capejasmine on August 20, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Very well said….

PatriotRider on August 20, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Eventually, the benefits of medicare and social security have to be curtailed because of the disparity in the size of the baby boom retirees and the baby bust workers paying into the system. The solution should not be the Democratic Party one of raising taxes to the breaking point because financially stressed youngsters will curtail their family size just like we see in Russia and Europe and we will have sown the seeds of another demographic disaster down the road.

It is better (sadly) for us boomers who can cover more of our own health care and support ourselves with lower social security benefits to do so. If we directly pay a higher % of our health care, we may actually be more careful in what we spend on; but that is better than a government deciding we cannot have some procedures at all. If I want them and can pay for them, then I have the option but I will have to pay at whatever % of the cost my means allows.

While this may seem to break a social contract, contracts are broken via bandruptcy all the time when one party cannot pay. In the case of Social Security, a contract signed when few lived past 65 and families had four children cannot survive in an era of two children families and people living on average to 78 years old.

There was a day when we Republicans said that the sooner we addressed this demographic entitlement problem the better and Democrats accused us of throwing naked grannies into the snowbanks. (Remember how they demogogued Gingrich’s “whither away” comment.) It is tempting to let the Dems stew in their hypocrisy but the reality is we are all passengers on this ship and if they offer to make the necessary reforms in conjunction with Republicans to address these entitlement deficits, we should not do what they did and we condemned them for.

In any case, we should fix the existing entitlement sword of Damocles before we create a new one by providing government paid for health insurance to all who set foot in the country.

KW64 on August 20, 2009 at 3:08 PM

It will be easy to fix this gap…once Obamacare passes, Congress simply has to raise the retirement age to at or above the falling life expectancy under socialized medicine. If life expectancy isn’t falling quickly enough, we can simply reduce the age at which you are considered too old for life-extending procedures.

midas79 on August 20, 2009 at 3:22 PM

It is a great idea for AARP members to tear up their cards, and it is also a good idea for all of those 50 and older to return some of the AARP solicitations in the self addressed and stamped envelope. Of course, it would be helpful to leave some choice comments on the returned mail. At least AARP will have to pay the postage!!!!!!

mobydutch on August 20, 2009 at 3:27 PM

I’m sure someone posted it but here is the conservative alternative to AARP.

http://www.americanseniors.org/pages/PressOnMedia.aspx?Images=/images/american_financial_products.jpg

Jeff from WI on August 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Tiorn up AARP cards are worth an extra years membership to the ASA

Jeff from WI on August 20, 2009 at 3:51 PM

AARP’s been taken over by the lefties for a long time now. This is nothing new.

You know who else is taken over by lefties?

CONSUMER REPORTS

I cancelled my subscription this year.

HondaV65 on August 20, 2009 at 3:54 PM

KW64 on August 20, 2009 at 3:08 PM

I disagree … we can fix this without forcing too many sacrifices in benefits …

We need a new “attitude” in this country.

Decide that people are responsible for their own retirement and health care.

When a kid enters the workforce – he needs to be told … “Hey you kid, you don’t have to do this – but it’s highly recommended you start saving for your retirement”.

401K’s, Bonds, Gold – and appropriate “matching funds” from employers are good enough to nurse a considerable nest egg if you start when you’re eighteen.

Lifetime Medical insurance – get into it early, and pay into it, along with medical savings accounts.

There’s ways we could do this – and phase out Social Security and Medicare. We need to do it.

But if people don’t plan – they are SOL … And they will have to go beg at a church. We have to take that attitude. But alas – we don’t hold anyone responsible for anything anymore.

HondaV65 on August 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM

HondaV65 on August 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Hear Hear! New attitudes for this country is essential! Some CEO, I think it was Bill Gates, was attributed to having 10 rules for life. The first was “Life isn’t Fair…get used to it!” Take responsibility for your life, money, and actions. If we got back to that basic model, we’d all be a lot better for it.

search4truth on August 20, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Hear Hear! New attitudes for this country is essential! Some CEO, I think it was Bill Gates, was attributed to having 10 rules for life. The first was “Life isn’t Fair…get used to it!” Take responsibility for your life, money, and actions. If we got back to that basic model, we’d all be a lot better for it.

search4truth on August 20, 2009 at 4:16 PM

It was actually WTMJ-AM (Milwaukee) radio host Charlie Sykes that had the 14 rules, which were expanded to 50 and turned into a book.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 5:02 PM

HondaV65 on August 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM

I am all for self reliance. Unfortunately, we are headed to having only 2 workers for every retiree. If they have to pay the current 60% portion of medicare for me, and pay enough for the currently slated social security benefits, FICA rates will have to drastically rise. While my 20 year old and 16 year old have obliviously gone on with their youth the tab for the benefits for retired boomers has reached a point where their payroll taxes will become so onerous, they cannot live the kind of lives we had.

Thus, I would prefer a means tested reduction in benefits to a revolution by the young who cannot pay for all the debt being run up and all the entitlements granted to retirees who often will be more affluent than youngsters just establishing themselves and having children of their own to support.

When you were just starting out in life, would you have accepted 20%+ payroll tax rates plus 25% income tax rates plus state and local taxes and overpriced health care policies because Obams wanted to subsidize health insurance for older people by overcharging the young? At what point will they just say “no! we’re made as hell and these geezers should pay for themselves if they can.”

KW64 on August 20, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Slightly-longer answer – The Boomers are too numerous to get denied, but the Gen-Xers (which includes me) are the ones that will be facing the music once the mythical “Trust Fund” gets exhausted. Since the youth (the Obama election notwithstanding) are not as politically powerful as the Boomers, and because too many people believe the lie that the “Trust Fund” is funded, every attempt to reform SocSecurity (and the related Medicare Part A) has failed.

steveegg on August 20, 2009 at 2:26 PM

The matter is going to get disastrous, and I think a lot sooner than people are counting on. Coming soon, again, sooner than people may realize, your 401k, IRA, etc? We’ll take it out of your hands, we can’t rely on the market anyway. Promise you a guaranteed stipend (kinda like SS, hey!) in return for the confiscation. First though, we’ll tax it, since you’re among the ‘winners’ in life, and we need you to ‘spread the wealth’ to those less lucky than you. Don’t think we forgot all the $ in Roths either though! Yeah, I know, you paid the tax on that money already, but the collective needs it.

Me? Couldn’t cash in the TSP (401k equivalent), but I did cash in the Roth, will pay the taxes on it next spring.

bikermailman on August 20, 2009 at 6:28 PM

I’m happy to say I told AARP what they could do with my membership.

NNtrancer on August 20, 2009 at 6:32 PM

I never had much use for an organization whose name sounds like a rude bodily noise.

landlines on August 21, 2009 at 12:50 AM

You know who else is taken over by lefties?

CONSUMER REPORTS

I cancelled my subscription this year.

HondaV65 on August 20, 2009 at 3:54 PM

I used to give regularly to the DAV (disabled vets) until the yearly DAV calender arrived loaded with leftist quotes from Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter, and every PC celebratory day or UN festival. I stopped donating. The calendars have reverted to America neutral, but I no longer trust them.

Because these ‘charities’ can spend your bucks lobbying you have to pay attention. Too bad, really

From the day you hit fifty, expect a slew of monthly mailings from the AARP for insurance, discounts, and perks if you just join up and send in the check. If 20 million members send in $20 a year that is a lot of lobby money. Use the large membership to get discount cards from businesses and the money flows in

entagor on August 21, 2009 at 2:03 AM

I sent an e-mail recently to AARP denouncing the Hollywood Marxists they use for the cover of their magazine. My e-mail was returned to me. I believe AARP has been Marxist leaning for a number of years. They have been able to establish a left-leaning agenda by putting people with a political agenda in power. We must sweep management out of office!

Betty DeLong on August 21, 2009 at 10:26 AM