Obama to rabbis on health care: “We are God’s partners in matters of life and death”

posted at 6:10 pm on August 19, 2009 by Allahpundit

Mmmmmm, that’s some tasty religious pandering. Just what Dr. AP ordered!

President Barack Obama needs some outside help pushing health care reform, and he’s turning to rabbis to get it.

In a morning conference call with about 1000 rabbis from across the nation, Obama asked for aid: “I am going to need your help in accomplishing necessary reform,” the President told the group, according to Rabbi Jack Moline, who tweeted his way through the phoner.

“We are God’s partners in matters of life and death,” Obama went on to say, according to Moline’s real-time stream.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a believer be so presumptuous as to say we’re “partners” with God on the ultimate question, let alone one who’s pushing a government program that’s got people worried about “death panels,” but oh well. Water off an atheist’s back, baby. In fact, partnership’s actually a nice conceptual framework for The One’s position on abortion: God’s the junior partner and we’re the senior partners, and sometimes the senior partner has to exercise his/her veto.

Theological question: If God’s onboard with ObamaCare, what sort of terrible wrath is America risking by tanking the Democrats’ numbers ever since they started talking about it? New from Pew:

The One’s approval rating in the same poll: Just above the water line at 51 percent, which is exactly where it is in Gallup and Rasmussen today, too. That’s 10 points below where he was just two months ago. Exit question: Second look at faith-based politics for the left? (Yes!)


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You are making it extremely difficult for me to continue to pray for you Obama.

fourdeucer on August 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM

The times that try men’s souls, Friend? Please don’t stop what you’re doing. You’re on the right track.

Liam on August 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM

FontanaConservative on August 19, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Check out the Disgrace: Swed Blood Libel story in headlines. It happened on that thread.

Disturb the Universe on August 19, 2009 at 6:32 PM

baldilocks on August 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM

Nice. You are correct!

bridgetown on August 19, 2009 at 6:32 PM

I looked at Rabbi Moline’s twitter:

Moline said (in reverse so oldest is at top):

Obama: the reflection of Elul is a good model for the issue of health reform
Obama quoting “who shall live, who shall die”
Obama: we are God’s partners in matters of life and death

Is this what Moline meant Obama was quoting?

On Rosh Hashanah it is inscribed,
And on Yom Kippur it is sealed.
How many shall pass away and how many shall be born,
Who shall live and who shall die,
Who shall reach the end of his days and who shall not,
Who shall perish by water and who by fire,
Who by sword and who by wild beast,
Who by famine and who by thirst,
Who by earthquake and who by plague,
Who by strangulation and who by stoning,
Who shall have rest and who shall wander,
Who shall be at peace and who shall be pursued,
Who shall be at rest and who shall be tormented,
Who shall be exalted and who shall be brought low,
Who shall become rich and who shall be impoverished.
But repentance, prayer and righteousness avert the severe decree.

INC on August 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a believer be so presumptuous as to say we’re “partners” with God on the ultimate question

You still haven’t.

baldilocks on August 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM

Dear Barry, pwned again.

Loxodonta on August 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

I’m not the same as liberal343. I only logged in after I found out he was banned.

liberal4eva on August 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM

So you are part of a coordinated effort to have atleast one of you logged in at all times.

Do they have snacks in the whitehouse dis-information lounge? Do they cut the crusts off of the little sandwiches? Does Linda Douglas look as old as she does on TV? Just wondering.

portlandon on August 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Most Jewish people in America are somehow connected to Israel one way or the other

liberal4eva on August 19, 2009 at 6:25 PM

In what way? Until I went to Israel in 2004, I wasn’t in the least bit connected to Israel. I am a JOOOOO, but it just was another country as far as I was concerned.

Unless, of course, you’re alleging that Israel controls the American government through some covert Jooooo network. Then you’re totes right.

mjk on August 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Seriously, haven’t Jews figured out this shyster by now?

marklmail on August 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

And this POS is our POTUS? The man is creepy beyond measure.

katy the mean old lady on August 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Pretty bad when even an atheist questions the appropriateness of the comment.

katiejane on August 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM

“We are God’s partners in matters of life and death,” Obama went on to say, according to Moline’s real-time stream.

Wow.
Just…wow.

This idiot has an ego the size of Australia.

uncivilized on August 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM

He didn’t really say that, did he?

It’s like living in an episode of “Lost”.

HAnthonyWayne on August 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Seriously, haven’t Jews figured out this shyster by now?

marklmail on August 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Only the Israelis.

ICBM on August 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM

And this POS is our POTUS? The man is creepy evil beyond measure.

katy the mean old lady on August 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

FIFY

Liam on August 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM

I can’t wait to see hurricane Bill slam into Martha’s Vineyard
this weekend while “O” is there.

He probably shouldn’t be messin with God right now.

ChrisM on August 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM

As soon as I read the we’re God’s “partners” bit I thought.

Do you know what the difference is between God and Obama?

God doesn’t think He’s Obama.

Lily on August 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Theological question: If God’s onboard with ObamaCare, what sort of terrible wrath is America risking by tanking the Democrats’ numbers ever since they started talking about it?

Republicans take back Congress in 2010!

Thank God!

Loxodonta on August 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM

I’m pretty sure he’s going to hell for this.

Quicker than you think. He’ll be there before he has a chance to stand for re-election.

Dirty Creature on August 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Obama:”So Rabbi, when can I start breaking ground on the temple mount?”

Buck Williams, where are you?

portlandon on August 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Just when I thought Obama couldn’t get any more detestable.

RightOFLeft on August 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Why doesn’t Barry take his Partnership with his Gaia and go pay for Aunt Zeituni‘s Check up!?!

Upstater85 on August 19, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Second look at faith-based politics for the left? (Yes!)

I thought all of their politics were faith-based. Certainly they’re not grounded in reality. Or math.

DrAllecon on August 19, 2009 at 6:37 PM

God does not have “Partners!”

God is God.

He has Servants.

The self-delusionally-important presumptuousness of this atheist is unreal.

enoughalready on August 19, 2009 at 6:39 PM

I love that graph with the ‘Cuda spike in Sept 2008.

joe_doufu on August 19, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Does Obama really believe the garbage he spews. The man is detestable.

rplat on August 19, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Disturb the Universe on August 19, 2009 at 6:32 PM

Wow…just…wow.

FontanaConservative on August 19, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Partner’s with God on healthcare??!?
Two things on this:
1. God’s plan for healthcare-Trust the Lord!
2. obama was speaking to Rabbis. the Mosaic law strictly forbids partnerships of any kind with heathens
For someone to say that we are partners with God really irritates me since he has only been to church once maybe since coming to wh.

ConservativePartyNow on August 19, 2009 at 6:40 PM


“We are Gods”

That’s what he really meant….

bperiwinkle on August 19, 2009 at 6:41 PM

“We are Gods”

That’s what he really meant….

bperiwinkle on August 19, 2009 at 6:41 PM

I thought maybe We = I.

Upstater85 on August 19, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Heil Satan.

That’s all I got to say about this.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 6:41 PM

He has nothing else.

misslizzi on August 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM

Can’t argue that logic……

sherryande on August 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Did The One happen to mention to the Rabbis that he He views himself Himself to be the “managing partner” in their partnership?

EconomicNeocon on August 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM

I’m not the same as liberal343. I only logged in after I found out he was banned.
liberal4eva on August 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM

And I am The Walrus. Coo Coo Ka Choo.

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM

And I am The Walrus. Coo Coo Ka Choo.

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM

:-)

Upstater85 on August 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM

“We are God’s partners in matters of life and death,” Obama went on to say, according to Moline’s real-time stream….meaning Obama will handle the death part.

Rahm Emanuel was then heard to say “Dibs on the death part!”

Patrick S on August 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM

I’m not the same as liberal343. I only logged in after I found out he was banned.

liberal4eva on August 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM

5 minutes later. News travels fast in the retard community.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Col.John Wm. Reed on August 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM

Great post. I started some digging on euthanasia this morning, both on the history, what the organizations evolved into (yes, they’re still around), and links to some of the advisors and czars in the Administration. Ugly what little I’ve done so far, will work more on the links to today later.

bikermailman on August 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM

G-d’s partner, eh? Didn’t he just say during the campaign that he didn’t know when a fetus became a human being (above my pay grade)? And now he’s a partner with G-d on the same issue? This POS is using every rule written by Saul Alinsky (never telegraph your moves).

Andy in Agoura Hills on August 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Blaspheme much barry? I heard the view from within the Lake of Fire is to DIE FOR……

Ris4victory on August 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM

There were some dark thunderstorms over Washington today…just saying.

d1carter on August 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Rahm Emanuel was then heard to say “Dibs on the death part!”

Patrick S on August 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Awesome.

myrenovations on August 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

How about Barry partner up with Good-ol Joe and start actually donating something of significance to oh, let’s say, long lost brothers?

“Let me be clear, I am not my brother’s keeper, but I am partners with some deity sure not to offend any of you.”

Upstater85 on August 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

So when he has his conference call with 1000 imams, he’ll say we are partners with Allah in matters of life and death?

Wethal on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

“God’s partner” would never kill babies in the womb. This fake is NO partner of God’s. He’ll be lucky if he can SEE the pearly gates from where he – and every other abortion proponent – is going.

GoldenEagle4444 on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

I wouldn’t stand too close to Barry anytime soon. Lightning can be very powerful. So can earth fissures.

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

I take it this was an off-the-cuff moment, no TOTUS involved?

Those squirrels in his head must be juggling chainsaws.

tru2tx on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Christianist theocracy! – Andrew Sullivan

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

5 minutes later. News travels fast in the retard community.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Liberal343 was banned?

Knucklehead on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

I don’t think this one is liberal343 aka nice343. However, what did liberal343 get banned for this time?

Blake on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

This POS is using every rule written by Saul Alinsky (never telegraph your moves).

Andy in Agoura Hills on August 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Oh, he’s telegraphing them, all right, though he doesn’t realize it. People can’t help being what they are, none of us can.

This is a case of “for those those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.”

Liam on August 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM

“We are G-d’s partners”???

I hope he said this over the phone because even Teh One would not be able to keep a straight face saying this shiz.

AlexB on August 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Politico adds:


“The one thing that you all share is a moral conviction,” Obama said. “This debate over health care goes to the heart of who we are as American people.”

Obama hit the insurance companies, saying that no one in America should be “pushed to the edge of financial ruin” because of they get sick.

And he again brought up the “misinformation” about the plans: “There are some folks out there who are frankly bearing false witness,” he said.

The idea that reform will lead to death panels “is just an extraordinary lie,” he added.

Obama characterized health care as part of “an ethical and moral obligation … that we look out for one another” and said when it comes to health care “in the wealthiest nation on earth we are neglecting to live out that call.”

Debunking “fabrications” about his reform plans, Obama said: “You’ve heard that this is all going to mean government funding of abortion. Not true.”

Obama called on the leaders to help him get health care reform by knocking on doors to “spread the facts” and “speak the truth.”

http://www.politico.com/politico44/

debg on August 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Knucklehead on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Yep. In the sweden thread.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM

As soon as I read the we’re God’s “partners” bit I thought.

Do you know what the difference is between God and Obama?

God doesn’t think He’s Obama.

Lily on August 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM
That was well done.

fourdeucer on August 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Good thing Barry wasn’t Channeling Revy Wright.

It may have come out like this:

“We are the chosen ones chosen ***AMEN, CAN I GET AN AMEN?*** by the gubmint to fight the AIDS infecting WHITEY!!! CAN I GET A GD Israel!!!???”

Upstater85 on August 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Blake on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Up in the Headlines in the Sweedish newspaper thread.

myrenovations on August 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM

“God’s partner” would never kill babies in the womb. This fake is NO partner of God’s. He’ll be lucky if he can SEE the pearly gates from where he – and every other abortion proponent – is going.

GoldenEagle4444 on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Partner of a wannabe god, you betcha. And let us not forget, he’s not just the run of the mill abortion proponent, he advocated vociferously infanticide. And has both Peter Singer, and Singer acolytes in the Administration, who believe babies aren’t actually human until 2-3 years old, and then only with the ‘right’ care and upbringing.

bikermailman on August 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM

“There are some folks out there who are frankly bearing false witness,” he said.

Yes, and he is #1 in doing just that!

INC on August 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Blake on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

See headline story: Disgrace-Swed Blood Libel.
Check comments.

Disturb the Universe on August 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM

I don’t think this one is liberal343 aka nice343. However, what did liberal343 get banned for this time?

Blake on August 19, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Claiming the Zionists were actually harvesting organs from poor widdle Palestinians.

Upstater85 on August 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM

This is a case of “for those those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.”

Liam on August 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM

+++++

bikermailman on August 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Thanks!

Blake on August 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Of course. liberal343 aka nice343 is a flaming Jew hater. Can’t control it. Gives her away every time.

Blake on August 19, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Did Obama mention what God probably thinks of ambulance chasers like John Edwards, who cause doctors to over-test to protect themselves from malpractice suits?

Wethal on August 19, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Has he selected a church yet? FRAUD

marklmail on August 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM

King Herod is back at it again.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a believer be so presumptuous as to say we’re “partners” with God on the ultimate question

And you still haven’t.

Grafted on August 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM

In fairness, Grafted beat me to this observation.

baldilocks on August 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Has he selected a church yet? FRAUD

marklmail on August 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM

It makes sense now why he hasn’t. Not too many churches worship “the partnership”.

jennifernaz on August 19, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Blake on August 19, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Liberal343 banned at 3:17

Liberal4eva shows up at 3:43

Prolly took that long to acquire a new ip address from its internet provider.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 6:56 PM

INC on August 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

I think that’s exactly what he’s referring to.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 19, 2009 at 6:57 PM

I’m not the same as liberal343. I only logged in after I found out he was banned.

liberal4eva on August 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM

yeah…you opened your e-mail? Or do you guys have a list of banned logon’s there at Axel Inc?

Fighton03 on August 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 19, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Thanks. I didn’t know the reference and found that.

I’m waiting for the lightning to strike.

INC on August 19, 2009 at 6:59 PM

These guys our supposed to be OUR humble servants, and we have a President that is trying to put himself up as a direct partner with God in matters of life and death? The amount of influence and power they want, and think they should have is astounding. I’ve thought myself a cynic about this guy from very early on in the campaign, but it’s even worse than I imagined. How could he still be pulling even 50% in the polls? He should be down to only the hard line lefties already.

stldave on August 19, 2009 at 6:59 PM

Dunno if God got that memo.

Schmuck.

spmat on August 19, 2009 at 7:01 PM

What would Jesus Do?

Why, he’d use the power of the roman government to make sure his disciples got proper medical care while being murdered. Of course.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 7:01 PM

How can Rabbi’s even talk to Obambi with the way he is treating Israel?

ctmom on August 19, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Anybody know that Robert Van Kampen (the investment guy) said in his book “The Sign” that Antichrist (actually the beast of Revelation) would be a resurrected Hitler? Must come from a Germanic background, however, so that leaves Barry out. Right? Wrong. He has white relatives from Illinois with distinctly German names.

No he’s not the beast. He’s way too much of a buffoon to have the whole world following after him.

Hoosiergammy on August 19, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Did Obama mention what God probably thinks of ambulance chasers like John Edwards, who cause doctors to over-test to protect themselves from malpractice suits?

Wethal on August 19, 2009 at 6:54 PM

“Jesus was a militant radical. And if He were here today, physically, He’d be at the forefront…” (from the movie Final Option/Who Dares, Wins)

Liberation theology–the way Marxists try persuading Christians to not only absolve them but justify their mix of Christianity and Marxism.

Liam on August 19, 2009 at 7:03 PM

How can Rabbi’s even talk to Obambi with the way he is treating Israel?

ctmom on August 19, 2009 at 7:01 PM

I may be wrong***

But some Jews don’t really recognize the current Jewish State – more ultra-Orthodox, though.

Upstater85 on August 19, 2009 at 7:03 PM

Most Jewish people in America are somehow connected to Israel one way or the other

liberal4eva on August 19, 2009 at 6:25 PM

And the point is? Besides, any Christian believer hopes to go to the Holy Land (ie, Israel) to visit where Christ lived and died. So??? what’s your point

chai on August 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Maybe Obama is the antichrist.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Under George W. Bush, we were but servants of G_d.

Under Barack Obama, we are now partners with not just G_d, but also GM.

Good times.

myrenovations on August 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Black Liberation Theology is Marxism cloaked in religious words, the godless camoflaged in the godly…but at its core has nothing to do with God and everything to do with grievance politics and the Marxist worldview, which does not honor God but competes with and replaces Him to deny the masses their opiate.

Harry Schell on August 19, 2009 at 6:26 PM

In Black Liberation Theology, one never hears about the purpose of the death of Jesus Christ nor about His resurrection. That is a big hairy clue that BLT is not Christianity.

baldilocks on August 19, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Next. God and Obama design shoes together.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 7:05 PM

This has to be the ultimate in hypocracy.First the lowlife POS gives Hamas almost a trillion dollars to wipe Isreal out,then he begs Rabbis to help his pet cause of giving himself the power of life and death through his ill concieved Gavt.Healthcare Power Bill.
I’m an atheist,but if there is a God,this rat should burn in Hell.

DDT on August 19, 2009 at 7:06 PM

So, really, doesn’t separation of church and state make obamacare unconstitutional?

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Under George W. Bush, we were but servants of G_d.

Under Barack Obama, we are now partners with not just G_d, but also GM.

Good times.

myrenovations on August 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM

God wants you to take advantage of the $4,500 rebate his chief partners are offering, and then use it to buy a Chevy Volt.

stldave on August 19, 2009 at 7:08 PM

Maybe Obama is the antichrist.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Nowhere near. Hitler came close, a ‘practice’ Antichrist, so to speak. Obama is unable to even get to that kind of ~ahem~ ‘esteem’.

Liam on August 19, 2009 at 7:08 PM

So, really, doesn’t separation of church and state make obamacare unconstitutional?

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Obama: G-d and I rewrote the Constitution while tap dancing on Jefferson’s grave.

Upstater85 on August 19, 2009 at 7:08 PM

So death panels are convened on passover?

And those who don’t put giant “O”s on their doors are eliminated?

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 7:09 PM

odd assumption coming from an atheist. there is no God in either Marx or Alinsky.

lilium on August 19, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Hmmm… Delusions of grandeur… Hang on while I look that up in the DSMIII.

Dee2008 on August 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Why don’t people see through the Obama con?

Mojave Mark on August 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Hitchens on God:

we would be living under an unalterable celestial dictatorship that could read our thoughts while we were asleep and convict us of thought crime and pursue us after we after are dead, and in the name of which priesthoods and other oligarchies and hierarchies would be set up to enforce God’s law

It does, sorta, sound like ObamaCare.

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 7:11 PM

So death panels are convened on passover?

And those who don’t put giant “O”s on their doors are eliminated?

lorien1973 on August 19, 2009 at 7:09 PM

+100

Upstater85 on August 19, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Why don’t people see through the Obama con?

Mojave Mark on August 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM

They don’t want to.

Liam on August 19, 2009 at 7:12 PM

OK, friends, it’s Saul Alinsky rules again. Obama has managed to change the subject and get people riled up about his statement of being a partner with God. This was a purposeful act on his part, count on it.

Obama wasn’t just speaking to a random group of 1,000 rabbis today. He was speaking to rabbis who are members of Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism.

Their home page has a banner headline about raising their voices for health care reform.

Saul Alinsky, baby!

labwriter on August 19, 2009 at 7:13 PM

I thought this was above his pay grade?

What Obama meant to say is we’re sending the elderly and disabled and chronically ill (that would include the obese right) to be with God. THAT is his idea of “partnership”.

Dr. Death speaks again.

The man is just trying to destroy the country…everyday you hear something else they are trying to pull and you think? Whhhhhhat?

And how anyone in the GOP could support the GOVT OPTION for healthcare is beyond me (note to Mitt).

OBAMACARE IN A NUTSHELL?
Partnering with the ‘steal, kill and destroy’ God to send you off the Medicare rolls.

PappyD61 on August 19, 2009 at 7:13 PM

This is fricken annoying.

Calls the Rabbi’s about a month prior to Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year. This is probably around the time a Rabbi might start figuring out his/her sermon. It will be one of the biggest audiences of the year.

If I so much as hear a peep about Obamacare coming from the pulpit during the high holidays, I will be making a very public walk out during the sermon.

Annenberg/Ayers/Renko/Wright!!

Rich on August 19, 2009 at 7:13 PM

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