Is there really a boycott of Glenn Beck? Update: Law of unintended consequences?
posted at 8:46 am on August 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
We’ve heard about the boycott of the Glenn Beck Show on Fox News Channel, one where as many as 20 advertisers have dropped their spots, thanks to pressure from left-wing groups angry at … well, their latest anger du jour. The boycott made big news when reports that major retailers Wal-Mart, Best Buy, and CVS had joined the effort. The Left celebrated, but did these three actually pull ads from Beck? I decided to check, and found that only one of the three agreed to stop advertising on Beck.
First, I contacted Best Buy, whose corporate headquarters are in the Twin Cities. The website Defend Glenn Beck posted an e-mail from their spokesperson saying that they had never advertised on Beck in the first place. I also received an e-mail from the same spokesperson confirming this:
Hi Ed~
The facts are that Best Buy has not advertised during or adjacent to the Glenn Beck show, and has no plans to do so. We do advertise on FOX, but during the morning hours of 6-9 a.m. I hope this helps your understanding.
Thanks a ton, Lisa
Lisa Svac Hawks
Director, Public Relations
Best Buy
7601 Penn Ave. S.
Richfield, MN 55423
Next, I contacted CVS, and found that they had never requested time on Beck in the first place. They did, however, ask to have their Fox spots appear elsewhere, although they apparently haven’t reduced them:
Dear Ed:
Thanks for your note.
While advertising on Fox is part of our communication plan, we had not requested time on Glenn Beck’s show specifically. We have instructed our advertising agency to inform Fox to ensure Glenn Beck’s program is not part of our advertising plan.
Our position is simple. We support vigorous debate, especially around policy issues that affect millions of Americans, but we expect it to be informed, inclusive and respectful, in keeping with our company’s core values and commitment to diversity.
Carolyn
Finally, I contacted Wal-Mart, and discovered that they alone of this Big 3 pulled ad spots from Beck:
Edward,
Walmart has confirmed the retailer pulled ads from the Glenn Beck show on August 3rd
Thanks,
Ashley
Ashley Hardie Wal-Mart Spokeswoman
Media Relations Hotline: 1.800.331.0085
In other words, the claim here was about half true. It was completely false regarding Best Buy, and CVS didn’t request ads for Beck before requesting to avoid him. Only Wal-Mart actually pulled ads from the show, and even at that may still be redirecting its ad money to other shows. Allahpundit predicted that would be the case when he wrote about this a few days ago, and Mediaite appears to have confirmed it:
It was big news yesterday – given major play on HuffPost and discussed on MSNBC – and while it signals some success for the ColorofChange.org campaign, the fact that Beck’s network, Fox News, isn’t hurt at all continues to be ignored.
As a Fox News spokesperson told Mediaite yesterday, “The advertisers referenced have all moved their spots from Beck to other programs on the network so there has been no revenue lost.”
That is a point that has been reiterated since advertisers first started exiting the individual show, and it proves the advertisers are more concerned with appeasing a section of their base than actually taking a stand.
Fox News continues to pick up the check from each of these companies, and continues to benefit from Beck and whatever he says on his program. Meanwhile, until Beck’s commercial blocks are filled with ads for the Wall St. Journal, Fox Business Network and Fox Searchlight Pictures, which they aren’t, his show isn’t ultimately hurt either.
Most boycotts flop. This one has a rather large quotient of cowflop to it as well.
Addendum: I have to say I’m puzzled by Wal-Mart’s acquiescence in this boycott. It’s not Beck fans who picket their stores, demanding unionization and demonizing them for their employee compensation policies. They’re appeasing the same people who want to drive them out of business.
Update: Another reader got a better explanation from Wal-Mart:
I am sorry to hear your concern. We continuously review our media plans. In keeping with our internal guidelines to avoid content that is highly polarizing, we’ve instructed our agencies, as of August 3rd, not to run Walmart advertising in news commentary shows on national cable networks. This would include the Glenn Beck Show.
Thank you so much for your patience and understanding. Should you need to call us, we are more than happy to further assist you at 1-800-966-6546.
In other words, Wal-Mart’s decision was not so much to boycott Beck, but to remove its advertising from all commentary shows to avoid controversy.
Update: P&G seems to be falling off the list, too. And it’s not just Wal-Mart pulling ads from all commentary shows, including some of the Left’s favorites over at MS-NBC:
DefendGlenn.com has also spoken to officials from Procter and Gamble, and Sargentos. P&G said they have NOT pulled ads because they never advertised on Glenn Beck to begin with. In addition P&G said they would be “restricting our advertising to daytime lineups” in an attempt to “avoid controversy”. While Sargentos, whose brand-destruction at the hands of angry consumers has been well-documented here, has now said they will also be yanking ads from MSNBC and CNN “talk personalities” as soon as it can be “arranged”.
Great work, Color of Change, you are killing the struggling shows like Hardball, Ed Show, Anderson Cooper 180, and Maddow, in addition to the once-strong brands such as Olbermann, which is now hemorraging viewers, by yanking their few high-paying advertisers away from them.
I don’t see this turning out well for the low-rated programs. How much can unions afford to advertise on MS-NBC’s lineup, anyway? The law of unintended consequences appears to apply here.










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Yep
I don’t see a bunch of weird looking hippie leftists going into wall mart.
They’re busying digging food from composts.
blatantblue on August 19, 2009 at 8:49 AM
I bet a lot of Beck fans have been shopping at WalMart.
WyoMike on August 19, 2009 at 8:50 AM
Tin ears are not limited to politicians.
elduende on August 19, 2009 at 8:50 AM
Same deal with Big Pharma.
BadgerHawk on August 19, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Dolts.
tree hugging sister on August 19, 2009 at 8:52 AM
What are the advertisers on Beck?
I don’t think FNC has lost any advertisers. If
big companies avoid Beck, that would open up some
choice time slots for smaller outfits.
Sounds like a good time for a vigorous company…as long as the show doesn’t get filled up with “Sham-Wow” commercials.
cozmo on August 19, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Megan McArdle writes why boycotts don’t work. Poor Kossacks.
Lance Murdock on August 19, 2009 at 8:54 AM
These aren’t canned responses that every large corporation sends out, right?
welcome_ghosts on August 19, 2009 at 8:55 AM
I think Walmart is approaching this from the standpoint that if you can’t beat them, join them. My husband has business with Walmart and they are extremely hard core about profit; Whoever has the deepest pockets, wins.
anniekc on August 19, 2009 at 8:55 AM
The people who now own Walmart* have the same attitude as the Administration and Congress. They don’t seem to care what their target audience thinks. Sam Walton is rolling over in his grave.
kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 8:55 AM
Wal-mart does not have any morals whatsoevers. They will do whatever they think is in there own interest./
They just want to make money and they don’t care what or how. If they think boycotting Glenn Beck helps the bottomline so be it, if they think open immigration helps there bottom line then they are for it. If they think people are persuaded by the buy american logo then they do it.
kangjie on August 19, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Ed, thanks for clearing things up a bit.
It seems the left thinks that, if you repeat something that is untrue enough times, it becomes truth.
Hope and change?
I really don’t understand it, with the age of internet, and even gasp…telephones, you think they would expect that folks would uncover their lies.
TampaBayBull on August 19, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Musta been part of the deal between Obama and WalMart for Walmart supporting Obamacare? (i.e., we’ll ignore Walmart for a while, no protests and such, if Walmart plays ball.)
coldwarrior on August 19, 2009 at 8:57 AM
Sponsors boycotting to stifle Free Speech is a double-edged sword.
The consumer can also boycott sponsors who boycott.
franksalterego on August 19, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Exactly!! It makes no sense. Plus, is Beck any more radioactive than Olbermann? Do any of these same companies advertise on his show?
changer1701 on August 19, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Damn, I guess I’m gonna have take Wal-Mart Greeter off my career plan.
TXUS on August 19, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Please, please, please don’t make me boycott Wal-Mart, that is wear I spend my yearly salary. My husband would love it.
TXMomof3 on August 19, 2009 at 8:58 AM
They are dumber than I thought.
ladyingray on August 19, 2009 at 8:58 AM
The left truly believes in their lies.
myrenovations on August 19, 2009 at 8:59 AM
When Joe Biden is President, I’m going to ask him to divide America up into three regions.
Liberal land can have the utopians.
Christian land can have religious freedom, which was supposed to be ours from the start but somehow got taken away by the utopians.
And the libertarians can have a booth at a Denny’s restaurant somewhere where they can talk about Ayn Rand and stuff.
jeff_from_mpls on August 19, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Excellent work Ed.
I do wonder why Beck is on vacation this week. Didn’t he take a vacation early in July?
Could FNC be sending him on vacation to distance him from the uproar?
therightscoop on August 19, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Remember when it was all-Rush all-the time? Wonder who’s next on the liberal hit list that wouldn’t scare a baby bunny rabbit.
Marcus on August 19, 2009 at 9:00 AM
I found this interesting. While Progressive is reported to have pulled their ads from Beck, they ran a commercial immediately after Beck yesterday(? I DVR it, so not sure of the exact day, but it was within the last two days) in the slot before Brett Baer. Like no one watching Beck saw this? Either a way for Progressive to pull Beck ads and still be seen by Beck viewers or Fox one-upping them by running it in that slot, so Beck viewers will see it?
mwdiver on August 19, 2009 at 9:00 AM
If you can’t find it at WM or Sam’s Club, it doesn’t exist.
TXUS on August 19, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Walmart also agreed that all employers should be mandated to provide health insurance. They are sounding more and more like crony capitalists that The Boss outlines in her book. Did someone get to them?
PrincipledPilgrim on August 19, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Wal-Mart supports the healthcare bill. That could be a reason for not supporting Glenn Beck. I don’t understand why they would go against their customers in such a big way though. Surely they know that conservatives are far more likely to grace their doors than liberals. Liberals are always trashing Wal-Mart.
squeek71 on August 19, 2009 at 9:03 AM
I worked for Wal-Mart when Sam Walton was alive and shorty afterwards. The body wasn’t even cold when they started making huge shifts in policy. So it doesn’t suprise me one bit, that they are biting off their nose to spite their face.
Wolftech on August 19, 2009 at 9:03 AM
i make ten million dollars every day
you people are losers for listening to talk radio
must mean you are losers
/simpleton simon
blatantblue on August 19, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Imagine that. Van Jones’ organization “exaggerating” the number of companies that were boycotting Gleen Beck. Who would of thunk it? Bunch of Communists.
kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 9:04 AM
I still laugh about the Beck show in which he at chocolate pudding while watching a clip of the president of the black U.S. chamber of commerce get in Barbara Boxer’s face during a hearing on climate-change legislation.
Classic.
And while MSNBC’s entire lineup does little more than echo Democratic talking points, Beck had a show this past Monday addressing how Obama’s administration is a train wreck for small business.
These businesses can laud diversity all they want. Some people are still inclined to seek employment outside of some civil service position.
BuckeyeSam on August 19, 2009 at 9:04 AM
I’ve been baffled by conservative love for Wal Mart for a long time. Wal Mart had a huge role in marketing Chinese made products in this country, which has hurt the US financially and strategically. Wal Mart supports Obamacare because socialized medicine will save them money, not because it’s good for America. I do hope that conservatives will wake up and smell the coffee on Wal Mart, and will perhaps reconsider their support for behemoths like Smithfield Foods that have destroyed many family farms and farming communities.
Just because something turns a huge profit doesn’t make it good for Americans…
funky chicken on August 19, 2009 at 9:04 AM
I have often said that I only need two stores – Wal-Mart and Lowes. Now that I think of it, I will ban my husband from Lowes and save the other half of our income.
TXMomof3 on August 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM
The boycott won’t last long. Beck is a popular show and well, corporations are more interested in their bottom line than ever.
And hey, the same people running this boycott has been trying to get RedEye off the air since it pretty much started…. They just aren’t very successful.
mjk on August 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Much ado about nothing. Wally World is temporarily “distancing” itself (probably for about a week) to quell the chattering leftists. The viewer demographic for Becks show is right up Walmarts alley, so to speak. It’ll be biz as usual in about a week or two.
Tim Zank on August 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM
So, is this a date-specific pull?
Are thy saying that they pulled the ads on that date only or from that date forward?
misslizzi on August 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM
word
blatantblue on August 19, 2009 at 9:06 AM
Seriously?? You don’t get it??
Look, wal-mart is all about PROFIT. and they do that by keeping costs low and having incredibly high volume.
It’s basically a risk-reward scenario:
the Glenn Beck fans that shop at walmart (like me) are NOT going to stop going to walmart (i won’t, their prices are too good)
BUT, SOME crazy libs that hate walmart MIGHT start shopping there, or (more importantly) remember the ‘pulled ads’ next time they start to bash walmart
the reward of looking ‘better’ to libs and getting more customers outweighs the risk of 7 glenn beck fans swearing off walmart for a week.
its a BUSINESS DECISION, just like their pushing of cap and trade. the only reason they did that was because it hurt Target more than it hurt Walmart. therefore, they endorsed it.
its ALLLLLL about the bottom line!
battleoflepanto1571 on August 19, 2009 at 9:06 AM
Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m a cheap little Joo. I likes me a good sale.
Otherwise, I try to shop at “local” places, but dude, I ain’t spending 7 bucks on toilet paper, unless I get, like 80 rolls or something.
mjk on August 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Yes, WalMart’s position is strange to say the least. They’ve obviously got some “commitments” to interrelating organizations as to Obama/Axelrod and/or (keenly) related because if it’s merely based on markets, then WalMart is acting strangely self-ruining (not that being engaged with relationships w/Obama/Axelrod is not self-ruining).
I BET IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WalMart opening stores in Mexico and then the “Spanish superstores” in the U.S. I bet, I bet, I bet it does…
They’re somehow engaged with that great big 20million or so population of illegal aliens — many who speak Spanish, won’t learn English, are from Mexico — in the U.S. who Obama/Axelrod is intending to “insure” along with SEIU and the other unions.
Lourdes on August 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Glen Beck has a huge following. I like about 75% of his stuff. Would I advertise on his show? Yeah, probably.
What gets me is that this is over him calling BHO a racist. My question is “what isn’t racist about our president? I mean does anyone think he got there because of experience?
Look at what work he came from. Did you check out the church he attended for 20 years? I mean……geeez.
If I can be called racist for disagreeing with him, I think he could accept a little heat also. It’s not just Obama with thin skin, it’s the entire Democratic Party. They know now that they have full responsibility for putting that amateur in office.
I’m a white male with a black grandchild I love dearly and I pretty much recognize racism on both sides, and belive me it’s alive healthy.
Ernest on August 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM
I am however, glad that CVS appears to be on the eligibility list. Where in the heck would I do all of my Dec 24th X-mas shopping!?
TampaBayBull on August 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM
That may well be true, but Wal-Mart saves me tons of money every year on just about everything my household needs.
myrenovations on August 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Funny thing about “diversity”: CVS near me has a super-snotty “diversity” pharmacy tech, SO snotty that I ended up moving my prescriptions to another drug store. Her continual attitude of “you’re interrupting my day” caused CVS to lose over $2,200 worth of business a year in my case. I mentioned this fact to the store management, but she’s still employed.
Nothing better than an annoyed, entitled, attitude-driven “diversity” employee to affect your bottom line. To hell with them.
bradley11 on August 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Was that the show where he was rubbing his nipples? I thought I was going to die.
TXMomof3 on August 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM
What has happened to Walmart? Conservative Talk Radio has come to their aid numerous times and now they get stabbed in the back by the Walmart that they defended??
I’ve got no problems staying out of both Walmart and CVS until I see their ads increase on Becks show. Let the Unionization of Walmart begin. DD
Darvin Dowdy on August 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Is the Gates Foundation invested in WalMart? Or in some shared orgs? What about Berkshire Hathaway?
Lourdes on August 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM
No, the other half of your income is going to taxes anyway. Sorry to screw up your day.
TXUS on August 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Walmart wants to drop coverage on ALL employees and send them to the gubment plan. Beck is all over this, and they don’t like to support the spotlight.
marklmail on August 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Andy Levy, is that really you?
TampaBayBull on August 19, 2009 at 9:09 AM
I looked for God at a Walmart. And I saw a 52 inch hi-definition television, and a voice said, God is not the 52 inch hi-definition television.
Then I saw a George Foreman grille. And a voice said, God is not in the George Foreman grille.
I left the Walmart with a downcast face, and it got very quiet, as if the parking lot were empty, and I felt a gentle breeze blow against my face. And the voice said, God is in the gentle breeze.
jeff_from_mpls on August 19, 2009 at 9:09 AM
I got a very lengthy reply from Walmart saying they supported the public option in healthcare.
8starsnorth on August 19, 2009 at 9:09 AM
There’s a long, long list of corporations that — once the original owner(s) has died — have ‘gone liberal’ or at the very least, opted to give in to pressure from the left when their success makes them a convenient target of attack. Those include companies ranging from McDonald’s to the Chicago Tribune.
Walmart’s in the same boat. They think by caving in to pressure, they can avoid problems with their customers in the more liberal areas they operate in, while people in the more conservative areas won’t notice. The problem for the Bentonville bean counters is it doesn’t matter — they’re still going to hate you until you unionize.
jon1979 on August 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM
I spend about $1,500 a year at Wal-Mart on ammo. Wrote them to let them know that it was over
jed58 on August 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM
In that case, the next step is to find out which MSNBC shows CVS sponsors.
Jim Treacher on August 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM
why?
A) they dont have unions, and work to stifle union organization
B) they give back a HUUUGE amount of money to local communities (anyone that ever needed a donation for a school project growing up can attest to that, they’ll give $200 bucks to just about anything)
C) while i wish theyd stuck to ‘made in america’ products (ditched that after sam walton died), they have incredibly low prices, where you aren’t paying for the haughty ‘prestige’ (“$59 for a wooden spoon? well it IS from crate and barrell! i’ll take it!“)
battleoflepanto1571 on August 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM
I have to say I’m puzzled by Wal-Mart’s acquiescence in this boycott
I caught a part of his show a week or two ago where he was criticizing Walmart for kissing up to the Obama people. He ended the piece with words similar to “They ( Obama liberals ) want to destroy you, and one day, they will do it”. It was pretty dramatic.
I can see why Walmart would be freaked out by it. Beck was right to criticize them, though.
Buddahpundit on August 19, 2009 at 9:11 AM
Here is my thoughts about WalMart:
Remember a few years ago when Walmart was test-marketing healthcare clinics in their stores? They had one in my area that shut down after a few months. I never heard if it was because they had no business or the Doctors were never paid. Anyhow I think WalMart is sucking up in an attempt to get the government contracts to foot the bill for opening clinics. The government would pay the cost of running them and WalMart would get all the potential customer traffic.
just a feeling.
Bicyea on August 19, 2009 at 9:11 AM
I was so mad about the boycott that I burned a pair of jeans I bought at Wal Mart. Unfortunately I was wearing them at the time.
Jeff from WI on August 19, 2009 at 9:11 AM
I gotta wonder if CVS advertises on MSNBC, otherwise known as the Obama Channel. No matter what the program, it is slanted, uninformed, and disrespectful for any position other than that of the filthy liar and his party.
highhopes on August 19, 2009 at 9:11 AM
The hippies don’t have time for Wal-Mart: their new right-wing target is Whole Foods
CaveatEmpty on August 19, 2009 at 9:12 AM
who wants to boycott starbucks?
blatantblue on August 19, 2009 at 9:13 AM
….wait…no one here drinks starbucks.
blatantblue on August 19, 2009 at 9:13 AM
True but that’s in the past for this walmart shopper. I’m giving them a proper FU by sending them a letter with copies of my amex bills highlighting all the walmart visits and the totals and telling them that after supporting them over the years when the bedwetters called for boycott after boycott, I’m giving that business to supertarget. Screw those ungrateful a-holes.
Monica on August 19, 2009 at 9:13 AM
This just goes to show when it comes to things like this the left is all spin and no substance. Their main strategy has always been to go for the cheap headline whilst not actually doing anything substantive, which just highlights the entirely contrived nature of their social and political activism.
Hellrider on August 19, 2009 at 9:13 AM
probably.
its ALLLLL about the bottom line.
i love this whole “walmart has gone liberal!” wailing.
dude, they’re in northwest arkansas. they ARENT liberal. theyre about screwing their competition (target) and selling more stuff cheaper.
there’s ALWAYS a profit motive behind every decision. even behind their new ‘sunbeam’ logo.
battleoflepanto1571 on August 19, 2009 at 9:13 AM
But let’s not get so sidetracked by thug-activism as to forget the obvious: Barack Obama consorted with Jeremiah Wright for 20 years.
Is it really that crazy to suspect that Barack Obama tacitly shared the militant racial supremacist views of his mentor Jeremiah Wright?
That’s the dirty little question that a serious media outlet would be asking if one still existed.
jeff_from_mpls on August 19, 2009 at 9:13 AM
I used to think so, too, when I shopped at one of their stores years ago (other residency, not where I am now), but, then I considered that on my monthly trips to WalMart, where I’d intended to buy, say, ten items for, say, a budget of around $150., I was leaving WalMart with 40 items having spent about $300.
So WalMart gets ya’ with the “oh, wait, I need THIS, too” behavior once you’re in the stores…you end up buying twice as much as you had in mind to buy and at twice or sometimes three times what you’d planned on spending.
I do like Costco and one of the reasons why is because they have bulk items. I can’t impulse buy “one of these and one of those and two of these and one of this one and…” — I’m limited to actual cash and need on each trip as to what I can carry among all those huge packages.
When I shopped at WalMart, I’d inevitably buy too many one-package items that I hadn’t expected to find but then, found and purchased because the price was good. Combine too many of such purchases and you get too many single items bought at more money…
Lourdes on August 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM
What’s Starbucks?
TampaBayBull on August 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM
Wal-Mart wrote me back saying they have pulled ads from all political shows, not just Beck.
The follow-up question is, of course, did they run ads on any other shows to start with? If so, have those ads really been pulled too?
Advocate For Change on August 19, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Try again. God’s usually near the ammo counter.
TXUS on August 19, 2009 at 9:15 AM
I emailed Wal Mart also and was told that they have chosen not to advertise on ANY commentary show on ANY network…which includes Glen Beck.
therambler on August 19, 2009 at 9:15 AM
I don’t think Obama is a racist. I think he panders to racists, which is actually worse.
zmdavid on August 19, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Twentieth Century Motor Co in Atlas Shruggs- that’s where Galt started it all and for the same reason.
Monica on August 19, 2009 at 9:16 AM
LOL
I have a love/hate with starbucks.
Some days I’ll go in, and it will be nice
No liberals sitting around, actually a few construction guys
It’s nice. I get my coffee or whatever and its, ya know, nice
Then some days, I come in and every little wannabe artist, lefty street rat and old communist is sitting in there, and I end up getting a cup with some quote from a left winger
blatantblue on August 19, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Most Americans recognize that it’s NOT crazy, not at all, to associate Obama with the racist and extremism that he associated (keenly) with for what appears to be his entire lifetime.
It’s actually crazy to expect or anticipate him NOT to be racist and extremist after a lifetime of the associations he’s had. Not as if he decides to run for President and, presto, his lifetime of relationships and experiences are somehow erased (though I recognize much of his defining documentation has been erased).
Lourdes on August 19, 2009 at 9:17 AM
but if you want to cause trouble
go to starbucks with a con book
i usually bring a robert spencer or ann coulter book with me
and i just put it on the edge of the table so people see it as they walk by.
blatantblue on August 19, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Isn’t that a Viper pilot from Battlestar Galactica? You know, Apollo’s best friend/girlfriend/ghost depending on which version and which season…
Wolftech on August 19, 2009 at 9:18 AM
I’m a bit OCD and I only go to stores with a list and only buy what is on the list. Also, I only take cash to shop and only enough to cover what is on the list. Years ago I found that I am tight fisted with cash but loosey-goosey with a debit card.
myrenovations on August 19, 2009 at 9:18 AM
Evil Monger!
ladyingray on August 19, 2009 at 9:19 AM
I buy big bags of their beans at Costco and then grind it myself and enjoy the same coffee at home that the Starbucks franchises sell for a 500% higher price.
Lourdes on August 19, 2009 at 9:19 AM
I do. But my Starbucks has a drive-through so I don’t have to go into the store anymore.
myrenovations on August 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM
That’s how I survive Costco. I have a list, I have a set ceiling of what I’m going to spend (or can) and that makes it impossible for me to overspend on most occasions.
I didn’t use that method when I used to shop at WalMart, unfortunately.
Lourdes on August 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Hee,hee…bring a Beck book!
misslizzi on August 19, 2009 at 9:21 AM
Some of ya’ll may have more choices of where to shop. In the town closest to me, we have Wal-Mart and a small East Texas chain of grocery stores. I have to drive 12 miles just to get there. I do have a little general store with an attached feed store about 5 miles away. There the guy charges about $5 for a can of chili.
TXMomof3 on August 19, 2009 at 9:21 AM
If Wal-Mart did pull ads from all political shows as Advocate for Change notes, that’s probably not a bad plan. But if they have decided to try to make nice with the liberals that will only come back to bite them in the buttski. That strategy has failed time and time again and no concession is ever enough.
Cindy Munford on August 19, 2009 at 9:21 AM
I have other places, but I usually go to Wal Mart. Prices are good, I can find what I want…
ladyingray on August 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM
I DO think Obama is a racist but I also am quite sure that he lacks any ability to evaluate himself in that regard. Look who he married, for Heaven’s sake, look who his close friends, “mentors” and relationships have been with his entire lifetime. Those are NOT those of someone who is NOT racially defining and embittered.
Lourdes on August 19, 2009 at 9:23 AM
for two years i made my girlfriend go in. i’d hand her a ten and say “do it”
eventually i succumbed, and began going in. then it got worse. i began to study there. ugh.
then one day i got into a fight with an old man anti war guy(not a fist fight) at a rally, and we ended up at the same starbucks. couldn’t help but laugh, and he turned out to be a good guy.
see thats the problem with liberals
a lot of them are actually nice people
but they’re just so stupid
blatantblue on August 19, 2009 at 9:23 AM
That would be difficult to deal with.
myrenovations on August 19, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Starbucks? Went one time and that was it. Too many people in mom jeans and sandals.
TXUS on August 19, 2009 at 9:24 AM
That’s probably the day that they get their allowance and rent checks from their affluent parents.
Hellrider on August 19, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Exactly, WalMart understands that the Healthcare bill, if passed, will eliminate gobs of competition, and they can grow market share. They’re not idiots, they’re one of the best run businesses out there in terms of operational efficiency and long-term strategy. But, as are many big businesses, they are reaking with opportunism. This incident just provides a reason for Walmart to put the blame on “a racist”, while they don’t need to explain their obvious agenda on healthcare reform.I say if GB wasn’t so effective at reaching people on this healthcare issue, Walmart would not pull the ads.
grosven on August 19, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Because conservatism, once a perfectly acceptable political and economic philosophy which emphasized isolationism and healthy levels of protectionism, was gradually replaced with globalism pretty much from the end of World War II forward. You are 100% right, there’s nothing traditionally conservative about supporting Walmart. Monopolies are anti-competition and prevent free and fair trade in almost the exact same way that the federal government can. Anti-statists recognize this fact when it comes to government but don’t seem to recognize it when it comes to massive corporations like Walmart. The whole idea of the productive individual capitalist, the yeoman farmer, can not work in a world where Walmart uses its muscle to undercut individual ingenuity and skill. The notion that American wages should stay in America was once conservative, now? Not so much.
CrankyIndependent on August 19, 2009 at 9:25 AM
lol
that is most likely a true statement
blatantblue on August 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM
I stopped shopping there where I reside now but whenever I’m back in the other two states where I’ve lived and still return to on occasions, I do shop at WalMart there (not here). The WalMart locations where I am now are terribly badly run, merchandise everywhere, few employees who will help, stuff thrown everywhere, terribly managed.
The two WalMarts in the other two places I’ve lived were nice, even spiffy. Plus they’re closer than other big stores in those areas (one is in the mountains so it’s a big deal to drive several hours to find another place to shop regularly, so WalMart works there).
I use Costco for groceries and household goods on a monthly basis, then go to Target for the rest and have begun including Whole Foods for my weekly fresh-foods needs. At least where I am now.
Lourdes on August 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM
We can’t boycott Starbucks. America needs an ample supply of road tar for it’s highways.
ppaint on August 19, 2009 at 9:27 AM
No Costco here. I will go to Target on occassion as well.
ladyingray on August 19, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Such wisdom…
ladyingray on August 19, 2009 at 9:29 AM
So, the Color of Change is lying?
Blake on August 19, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Yes, that’s the situation where I used to live and still go back to from time to time, WalMart is just the place that can be gotten to with some ease on regular basis, because everything else is a major trip and what with huge snows and mountain roads, well, it’s just easier to stop at WalMart down the road once every other week or so.
WalMart is smart like that in that they build stores in somewhat rural areas where many people can’t easily get to more urban areas for shopping on a regular basis.
Lourdes on August 19, 2009 at 9:30 AM
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