Gibbs to media: You contrived this entire “public option” debate!

posted at 4:30 pm on August 19, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via Breitbart. Ace thinks this is nutty, and it is — the firestorm exploded because of the Conrad/Sebelius double whammy on Sunday, not any contrivance — but The One’s fear of the media lining up with progressives to put the screws to him on a public option isn’t that nutty. Yeah, he wants a government alternative to private insurance, but the more the press pushes it, the more emboldened House liberals will be and the greater the risk that he won’t be able to find a compromise between them and the Blue Dogs. Result: The bill implodes, which is the one true Obama nightmare scenario. Today’s WaPo even quotes senior White House officials whining about the leftist backlash:

“I don’t understand why the left of the left has decided that this is their Waterloo,” said a senior White House adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “We’ve gotten to this point where health care on the left is determined by the breadth of the public option. I don’t understand how that has become the measure of whether what we achieve is health-care reform.”

“It’s a mystifying thing,” he added. “We’re forgetting why we are in this.”

Another top aide expressed chagrin that a single element in the president’s sprawling health-care initiative has become a litmus test for whether the administration is serious about the issue.

“It took on a life of its own,” he said.

Indeed it did: Per Rasmussen’s latest, support for a bill without a public option is down 19 points among Democrats since Sunday. If the media were truly siding with Obama against the left, they’d be spending less time on the intraparty war and more time writing puff pieces like this about health-care co-ops, to make a watered-down bill seem more palatable. As it is, suddenly he’s got skirmishes breaking out between Blue Dogs in the House, who claim there’ll never be 60 votes in the Senate for a government plan, and Harry Reid, who’s waving around the threat of reconciliation to force a bill through on a simple majority vote (whether that’s feasible or not). The lower Obama’s numbers sink, the more the Blue Dogs dig in; the more ink is spilled on the public option, the more progressives dig in. Exit question: Who blinks?


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Government, not public

PaCadle on August 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Sure they have a say. For example, “Vote our way, or we’ll get another dem to run against you and endorse him/her.”

Daggett on August 19, 2009 at 4:50 PM

The Dems don’t have enough money to support primary campaigns nation wide, they ran out of money last election. With Obama’s poll numbers dropping, and the GOP polls climbing, they won’t raise enough to fight in every district…

If the Blue Dogs vote this healthScare bill, they vote themselves out of a job.

TN Mom on August 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM

THAT’S the real danger here. A “well, we want THAT kind of Democrat”… That keeps me up at night.

Gatsu on August 19, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Don’t understand this. If the Democrats are less left that is a problem?

clorensen on August 19, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Yeah, okay, but what does Jeanine Garafolo think?

John the Libertarian on August 19, 2009 at 4:57 PM

That mirrors are unfair?

viking01 on August 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM

This chump has to try to cover for the buffoonish Emanuel and Axelrod. I love to watch these freaks squirm.

marklmail on August 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM

The Dems don’t have enough money to support primary campaigns nation wide, they ran out of money last election. With Obama’s poll numbers dropping, and the GOP polls climbing, they won’t raise enough to fight in every district…

TN Mom on August 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Two words: George Soros

Also, they could be faced with a choice:

1. Vote against the bill, become the enemy of Obama, who promises to destroy your career.

2. Vote with the bill, upset the voters, get money and support from Obama, take your chances with the voters.

Think of the power Al Capone had.

Daggett on August 19, 2009 at 5:05 PM

frumian on August 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM

You’re new here and immediately start attacking the host?
Do you walk into somebody’s house and tell them they have the furniture in the wrong place?

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Seriously. Isn’t there a law against that? Sounds like a threat to me.

Nice job you have there. It would be a shame if something happened to it.

Oink on August 19, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Dems attack insurance companies. We knew this was coming; when they can’t back up their bill with facts, they resort to attacks.

TN Mom on August 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM

portlandon on August 19, 2009 at 5:01 PM

And how many times, to include this past weekend in Colorado, has Obama used the phrase “this is a pillar upon which a foundation will be built?”

coldwarrior on August 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Do you walk into somebody’s house and tell them they have the furniture in the wrong place?

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM

No wonder I’m never invited over a second time. -_-

thomasaur on August 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Exit question: Who blinks?

Michelle Obama when Barry throws a tantrum “those blue dogs ruined my presidency.”

farright on August 19, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Blue Dog Democrats, if they can continue to get reelected, have a job for life, with top grade retirement and medical benefits.

Obama, OTOH, is gone in 3 1/3 or 7 1/3 years. Either span of time is less than the lifetime job the Blue Dog aspires to keep.

Those facts should not be ignored in the political equation.

Yoop on August 19, 2009 at 5:11 PM

If the Obama Administration were house builders they’d start with the roof, than the porch, than the walls and jack up the house to put a foundation under it. It’s amazing how stupid they are.

They would rather go find dirt, actually read the bill. Amazing.

portlandon on August 19, 2009 at 5:01 PM

The community organizer can’t get the job done.

TN Mom on August 19, 2009 at 5:11 PM

He’s turned on the most reliable segment of his base over this issue. How long before the MSM figures out that Obama will do this to them whenever it suits his needs.

johnsteele on August 19, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Don’t understand this. If the Democrats are less left that is a problem?

clorensen on August 19, 2009 at 5:03 PM

It is and it isn’t. I look at a Blue Dog like a padding of sort. In this administration a blue dog is an asset. They give enough swing to the right to help balance things (when they go the right way). But if the majorities were reversed they would trend more left, being a bit of a bother, mainly due to the Rinos adding to the padding. A majority that is too soft is a bad majority.

Gatsu on August 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM

The community organizer can’t get the job done.

TN Mom on August 19, 2009 at 5:11 PM

He never could. If the MSM had taken just a few minutes a day to highlight the string of failures of Obama’s community organizing projects in Chicago, during the campaign last summer, when it mattered, he’d be out in Chicago right now trying to hustle another buck off The Man. Or facing charges along with Rezko and the rest of his pals.

coldwarrior on August 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM

(foxnews)

Democrats on a House committee are seeking detailed financial records from dozens of large insurance companies, officials disclosed Tuesday…

TN Mom on August 19, 2009 at 4:57 PM

If the leaders of these companies had an ounce of common sense and any memory whatsoever they’d tell the House to go pound sand.

ya2daup on August 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Gibbs might do well to read the history of the public option at The American Prospect;

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=08&year=2009&base_name=the_history_of_the_public_opti

One key player was Roger Hickey of the Campaign for America’s Future. Hickey took UC Berkley health care expert Jacob Hacker’s idea for “a new public insurance pool modeled after Medicare” and went around to the community of single-payer advocates, making the case that this limited “public option” was the best they could hope for. Ideally, it would someday magically turn into single-payer. And then Hickey went to all the presidential candidates, acknowledging that politically, they couldn’t support single-payer, but that the “public option” would attract a real progressive constituency.

percysunshine on August 19, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Do you walk into somebody’s house and tell them they have the furniture in the wrong place?

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Well, the walk-in beer cooler in the living room, next to the 70 inch wide screen was a bit bizarre.

Yoop on August 19, 2009 at 5:19 PM

(foxnews)

Democrats on a House committee are seeking detailed financial records from dozens of large insurance companies, officials disclosed Tuesday, part of an investigation into “executive compensation and other business practices” in an industry opposed to President Barack Obama’s plan to overhaul health care.

The request included records relating to compensation of highly paid employees, documents relating to companies’ premium income and claims payments, and information on expenses stemming from any event held outside company facilities in the past 2 1/2 years.
The congress has time to ‘fish for dirt’ on insurance companies, but won’t/can’t provide data on clunkers. Congress let Democrat Charles Rangle take 9 months to provide info to the ethics committee.

TN Mom on August 19, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Seriously. Isn’t there a law against that? Sounds like a threat to me.

Nice job you have there. It would be a shame if something happened to it.

Oink on August 19, 2009 at 5:00 PM

The insurers can tell Congress to pound sand. They are regulated by the states. Congress can’t touch them unless they repeal the McCarran Act.

rockmom on August 19, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Hey Gibbs . . . it appears that you can’t even control your own lapdog media.

rplat on August 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM

You’re new here and immediately start attacking the host?
Do you walk into somebody’s house and tell them they have the furniture in the wrong place?

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Huh? I must have missed the attack. Is disagreement with a hypothesis attacking it?

frumian on August 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM

frumian on August 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM

To be blunt, it seemed a little cheeky for someone so new to Hot Air.

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:22 PM

frumian on August 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM

To be blunt, it seemed a little cheeky for someone so new to Hot Air.

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Pretty strong evidence that it is a troll and should not be fed.

rockmom on August 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Gibbs: “stay tuned…” What did you say MFer?
Helen: If looks could kill, Gibbs would be deader than she looks.

ted c on August 19, 2009 at 5:25 PM

There’s a solid reason for the lefty left to oppose watered-down health care reform. The right legislation could end their dream of single-payer.

Imagine if all we pass is legislation that improves portability and lets insurance companies compete across state lines. That could be wildly successful, and make people a lot less likely to go for a government option.

hawksruleva on August 19, 2009 at 5:27 PM

rockmom on August 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Judging from earlier posts, that’s the impression I had. That’s alright. If he is, he ‘ll be gone soon. Liberal343 got the Hammer today.

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Pretty strong evidence that it is a troll and should not be fed.

rockmom on August 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Of course, I’m a troll. I’m a moderate Frum fan.

But no matter how many times extremists call me names I still wont vote Dem.

To be blunt, it seemed a little cheeky for someone so new to Hot Air.

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Well whatever, I thought this was a political blog not a glee club. Allah doesn’t seem to bothered either.

frumian on August 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM

hawksruleva on August 19, 2009 at 5:27 PM

This should be the first legislation passed by the new 112th Congress in 2011.

Then we get to the rest of the list.

coldwarrior on August 19, 2009 at 5:30 PM

OT START.

[OK guys, I know this is waaaaay off-topic, but...

Here's something for the "No F-ing Way!" Files...]

OT END.

OK, back to the topic here.

A heart-filled letter… which will end up unread by the target audience.

Don’t you all understand that, for too many Liberals and Socialists, life is cheap?

newton on August 19, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Liberal343 got the Hammer today.

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM

I’ll have a drink to celebrate that.

Les in NC on August 19, 2009 at 5:31 PM

OK, I got into the wrong topic… Ahem…

I’m sorry, Gibbs. You did NOTHING to help matters here. Don’t complain now: most of the MSM are in bed with your boos, anyway.

newton on August 19, 2009 at 5:33 PM

boss… I fixed it, but too late.

newton on August 19, 2009 at 5:33 PM

let me be clear… as I’ve consistently said… Gibbs is a condescending tool.

Ampersand on August 19, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Is it just me, or is Gibbs starting to look like a Conehead? Although even they weren’t this robotic and contemptuous of mere humans.

Jim Treacher on August 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM

And how many times, to include this past weekend in Colorado, has Obama used the phrase “this is a pillar upon which a foundation will be built?”

coldwarrior on August 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Exactly. Obama’s pillars are as sturdy as the plastic fake colliseum columns he staged behind him at the DNC convention.

portlandon on August 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM

Why does Gibbs still have a job? Don’t get me wrong, the longer he is there the worse things will get. Which is good. But hell, at this point I’m sure even Carter would have fired him. I can’t decide who is more pompous, arrogant, dick….Gibbs or Barry.

Fed45 on August 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Is it just me, or is Gibbs starting to look like a Conehead? Although even they weren’t this robotic and contemptuous of mere humans.

Jim Treacher on August 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM

I agree but ever since Laura Ingraham noted a resemblance to Mrs. Doubtfire, I can’t get that vision out of my head.

TXUS on August 19, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Liberal343 got the Hammer today.

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Which thread?

INC on August 19, 2009 at 5:44 PM

The Gibbsbury Doughboy is pathetic.

TinMan13 on August 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM

Why does Gibbs still have a job? Don’t get me wrong, the longer he is there the worse things will get. Which is good. But hell, at this point I’m sure even Carter would have fired him. I can’t decide who is more pompous, arrogant, dick….Gibbs or Barry.

Fed45 on August 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM

I’d actually like to see Bill Burton get the job. He would put a perfect face on this administration – smarmy.

sherry on August 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Gibbs is doing exactly what Rahm wants him to do. Never forget that. As I said on another thread last night, this is not the genteel, charming Clinton. This is the steel-eyed Chicago thug Obama we are talking about, and the modern Democratic Party in which snark comes first, facts later if at all. Thuggishness is a feature, not a bug.

Gibbs is the perfect spokesman for this White House.

rockmom on August 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Which thread?

INC on August 19, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Disgrace-Swed Blood Libel post in headlines.

Disturb the Universe on August 19, 2009 at 5:54 PM

frumian on August 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Someone’s Alexrod email apparently got delayed.

Fed45 on August 19, 2009 at 5:54 PM

There’s a solid reason for the lefty left to oppose watered-down health care reform. The right legislation could end their dream of single-payer.

Imagine if all we pass is legislation that improves portability and lets insurance companies compete across state lines. That could be wildly successful, and make people a lot less likely to go for a government option.

hawksruleva on August 19, 2009 at 5:27 PM

WHAT???? You mean a plan that lets the individual decide what’s best for themselves, and their families? It would mean, making our own choices? We could get it at better costs, and probably better coverage?

I’m not so sure some of the kool aid drinkers are ready for that much responsibility. It seems to be Neverland perpetually, in their minds.

capejasmine on August 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

The public option is just a little sliver of the plan! Hmmm I thought those were Obama’s words.

Christian Conservative on August 19, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Disgrace-Swed Blood Libel post in headlines.

Disturb the Universe on August 19, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Thanks. I had not read that thread. I’m not surprised at the comment or the ban.

The trolls are always the same on all topics it seems. No diversity!

INC on August 19, 2009 at 6:13 PM

As Krauthammer said, this thing is a dead parrot.

They’re hurriedly moving the goalposts so Obama doesn’t come out the big loser. That should sit well with Congress.

John on August 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Exit question: Who blinks?

Pelosi. A lot. >,<

IrishEi on August 19, 2009 at 7:02 PM

You’d love to see him at lunch in a DC fancy restaurant, then choke to death on a piece of steak.

Jeff from WI on August 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Ya know, I’m starting to like Helen Thomas, at least insofar as she really knows how to get under the skin of that little prick Gibbs and make his pansy ass squirm with annoyance. Hats off to you once again, Helen.

Goldy1 on August 19, 2009 at 7:23 PM

frumian on August 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM

You’re new here and immediately start attacking the host?
Do you walk into somebody’s house and tell them they have the furniture in the wrong place?

kingsjester on August 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Mebbe it’s Meg Mac applying some Fat Shui to the place???

BigWyo on August 19, 2009 at 7:38 PM

How many insurance companies are there? Obama is not talking about competition with Health Care Companies. He’s not even talking about competition with Health Care Options . . .

Obama wants competition with Capitalism. His competition is with Socialism and Fiscal Fascism.

- The Cat

P.S. I think using the term ‘fiscal fascism’ kills the argument about the genocidal/racial supremacy aspect of what the Nazi Party did. Just like there is Fiscal Conservatism and Social Conservatism there is Fiscal and Social Fascism.

Rush should pick this up :)

MirCat on August 19, 2009 at 7:44 PM

Government, not public

PaCadle on August 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Start calling it ‘The Government Option’ or ‘The People’s Option’

- The Cat

MirCat on August 19, 2009 at 7:47 PM

I love Helen Thomas chiming in! HAHAHAHA!

scotthenning on August 19, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Is it just me, or is Gibbs starting to look like a Conehead? Although even they weren’t this robotic and contemptuous of mere humans.

Jim Treacher on August 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM

More like Tom Arnold with a migraine. That also could explain all those posts on Rosanne’s website.

jon1979 on August 19, 2009 at 8:00 PM

The best way to reduce health care cost and it would happen almost immediately is for the government to get out of the health care arena ENTIRELY.

lilium on August 19, 2009 at 8:30 PM

What planet have you been living on, Gibbs?

Kissmygrits on August 19, 2009 at 8:57 PM

(with apologies to the movie Serenity)
Rahm Emanuel: Do you know what your sin is Gibbs?
Gibbs: Well, I uh…
Rahm Emanuel: You’re a dumbass!
Emanuel: You know, in certain older civilized cultures, when men failed as entirely as you have, they would throw themselves on their swords.
Gibbs: Well, unfortunately, I forgot to bring a sword.
Gibbs: [as Rahm Emanuel pulls out his sword] I would put that down right now if I were you.
Emanuel: Would you be killed in your sleep, like an ailing pet? You know this is the Chicago Way!
Emanuel: [watching Gibbs slowly sink on to the sword he holds] There is no shame in this Gibbs. Obama and I are building a better world. You must take the fall so the Messiah will survive. Besides I just like sticking knives in things.

InfantryBeanie on August 19, 2009 at 10:15 PM

If this were the 19th century, somebody would have slugged Gibbs by now.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 19, 2009 at 10:17 PM

This guy is bringing the Court Jester resume to new heights.

Cybergeezer on August 20, 2009 at 9:22 AM

He’s turned on the most reliable segment of his base over this issue. How long before the MSM figures out that Obama will do this to them whenever it suits his needs.

johnsteele on August 19, 2009 at 5:13 PM

The Obama-fellating, state-run media may have already figured that out and it doesn’t matter. He is their pet and should he turn and bite their hand someday, they will just assume they had touched a sensitive spot and resolve not to do that again. IMHO they will never abandon “The One”.

SKYFOX on August 20, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Gibbs gotta go. He can not even lie for the President that makes the President look good.

MSGTAS on August 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Gibbs is the most incompetent, dishonest, arrogant crap-weasel press secretary evah. Perfect fit for the Obambi administration.

johnnybgood on August 20, 2009 at 12:35 PM

I don’t understand why media still covers for Obama. Gibbs treats reports with serious disdain. The one who was on Megan Kelly’s show and kept accusing her of misleading viewers is even worse. If I were the media, I would be sick of the way these people talk to me by now.

Conservative in NOVA on August 20, 2009 at 3:35 PM

modern day version of Pee Wee Herman

bluegrass on August 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM

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