Video: Time for another “What would Jesus do?” segment about ObamaCare; Update: Obama to address religious leaders on health care

posted at 8:31 pm on August 18, 2009 by Allahpundit

Not a line of inquiry that a hawkish party should want to popularize, but oh well. It’s Bishop Harry Jackson, last seen making this argument to Ed Schultz, back on the air to warn the faithful that universal health care just might be immoral — or “amoral,” as the confused Fox News chyron writer has it. I’m taking the hardnosed conservative position on this one at the expense of atheist principle: If killing the bill means convincing centrists that Jesus will be miffed at the feds for crowding out Christian hospitals, then preach it, rev. Frankly, I’m surprised the Democrats haven’t pushed more of a moral/religious spin on red-staters to try to weaken support among conservatives who are making Blue Dogs’ lives hell. There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

Fun fact about Jackson: Evidently, God told him to support Dubya in 2004. Exit question: Wouldn’t Jesus say that health-care co-ops are actually trojan horses for single-payer? I think he would.

Update: Like I was saying.

Obama is scheduled to address more than 1,000 religious figures in two conference calls, allowing him to extend his message to legions of faithful in the pews.

First up is a “High Holy Day” call this morning with about 1,000 rabbis from Judaism’s Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist movements. Organizers hope the call will provide fodder for synagogue sermons when the Jewish holidays arrive next month.

“There is a very important moral dimension to this discussion,” said Mark J. Pelavin, associate director of the which invited Obama to join the morning discussion.

The center is a co-sponsor of the second conference call later in the day — pegged as “40 Minutes for Health Reform” — with scores of lay leaders and clergy from Evangelical, Protestant, Catholic and Jewish traditions.

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He wouldn’t leave babies in a close to die, I’m pretty sure about that.

BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM

Or in a closet, even.

BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM

I saw part of this on Fox, the man is interesting.

Terrye on August 18, 2009 at 8:33 PM

I at least would never ever imply that I had any clue what Jesus would do. I can’t even read another person mind never mind that of a God.

RagTag on August 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Seriously, just stop injecting Christ into political debates. Christ would be focusing on getting people to have eternal life through His sacrifice, not worrying about health care.

Living4Him5534 on August 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Exit question: Wouldn’t Jesus say that health-care co-ops are actually trojan horses for single-payer? I think he would.

HuffPo’s been branching out into the straight news department a lot lately. They didn’t even put a biased or snarky headline on the article. Huffington is a savvy woman.

BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Drudge is reporting that the dems are going it alone on healthcare. I’m thinking that’s the nail in their coffin.

txag92 on August 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Prepare to have your entire life dragged through the gutter, Preacher Man. Black AND against OgabeScare….you are going to be called slurs that would make a sailor cringe.

Bishop on August 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Jesus would heal everyone for free. Unfortunately mankind doesn’t have all the capabilities that God might posses.

ThackerAgency on August 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM

There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

What? Nobody in America goes without care. Even illegals get hospital treatment. That’s precisely the point of why obamacare is disingenuous. It removes choice and care from the majority who already are happy, in order to give insurance to people who are already being treated.

keep the change on August 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM

The one problem is that the 47 million are getting health care…its the law. If those that are here illegally. So we are we talking about the costs or are talking about the suffering?

d1carter on August 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM

“What would Jesus do?”… I think he worked without a teleprompter for one.
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RalphyBoy on August 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Drudge is reporting that the dems are going it alone on healthcare. I’m thinking that’s the nail in their coffin.

txag92 on August 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM

They will be shooting themselves in the foot. Cut it now.

CWforFreedom on August 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Or in a closet, even.

BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM

My laugh of the night.

betsyz on August 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

What would Jesus say to Obama regarding unborn babies….? What would Jesus say to obama regarding Grandma…. her hip and her plug…?

Don’t ask the question, “What would Jesus Do?” Go pay him a visit on your knees and ask him yourself. He’ll tell you…

“let the little children come to me…”

ted c on August 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

He could have called 10,000 angels but He didn’t, that should give us an idea.

fourdeucer on August 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Drudge is reporting that the dems are going it alone on healthcare. I’m thinking that’s the nail in their coffin.

txag92 on August 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM
They will be shooting themselves in the foot. Cut it now.

CWforFreedom on August 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Obamacare Martyr Brigade is forming up as we speak.

ted c on August 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM

How many of the posters who claimed that Jesus would not at all care about universal healthcare will now claim that it’s super sinful to support universal healthcare.

CrankyIndependent on August 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM

How many of those who would channel Jesus as a wedge to generate support for Obamacare would never ask Jesus his opinion in any other area of their lives?

ted c on August 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM

I’m pretty sure my fiance would be dead under Obamacare. She has had several very expensive heart surgeries, which over the course of her life have gone from dismal odds to 98% survival rate.

I don’t believe the breakthroughs that allowed for that would happen under nationalized healthcare. I also don’t think the procedure that has allowed her to live would have been deemed cost worthy under a nationalized system.

So, if he thinks he would be dead under Obamacare. I believe him.

jhffmn on August 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM

I’d say Jesus wouldn’t want to get involved in a political debate.

terryannonline on August 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Frankly, I’m surprised the Democrats haven’t pushed more of a moral/religious spin on red-staters to try to weaken support among conservatives who are making Blue Dogs’ lives hell. There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

Democrats, by nature, are immoral, so that wouldn’t work.

And the whole “47 million people who currently suffer without” insurance is garbage:

In 2006 our Census Bureau reported that there were 46.6 million people without health ins. About 9.5 million were not US citizens. Another 17 million lived in households with incomes exceeding $50000 a year and could, purchase their own health care coverage (http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/p60-231.pdf).

18 million of those 46.6 million uninsured were between the ages of 18 and 34, most of whom were in good health and not necessarily in need of health-care coverage or chose not to purchase it. (US Dept of Health and Human Svcs: http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/05/uninsured-cps/ib.pdf).

Only 30% of the nonelderly population who became uninsured in a given year remained so for more than 12 mos. Almost 50% regained their health coverage within 4 mos. (http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results.html?artId=16014).

But maybe I’m just grabbing at straws.

VibrioCocci on August 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM

There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

If you are going to keep repeating this lie over and over can you at least give us 10 mil who don’t have it but can afford it themselves? You know bring it down to a mere 37 mil.

kahall on August 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Frankly, I’m surprised the Democrats haven’t pushed more of a moral/religious spin on red-staters to try to weaken support among conservatives who are making Blue Dogs’ lives hell. There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

Democrats, by nature, are immoral, so that wouldn’t work.

And the whole “47 million people who currently suffer without” insurance is garbage:

In 2006 our Census Bureau reported that there were 46.6 million people without health ins. About 9.5 million were not US citizens. Another 17 million lived in households with incomes exceeding $50000 a year and could, purchase their own health care coverage (http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/p60-231.pdf).

18 million of those 46.6 million uninsured were between the ages of 18 and 34, most of whom were in good health and not necessarily in need of health-care coverage or chose not to purchase it. (US Dept of Health and Human Svcs: http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/05/uninsured-cps/ib.pdf).

Only 30% of the nonelderly population who became uninsured in a given year remained so for more than 12 mos. Almost 50% regained their health coverage within 4 mos. (http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results.html?artId=16014).

But maybe I’m just grabbing at straws.

MarkBoabaca on August 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Since it was a busybody government that killed Jesus, I don’t think He would have a very high opinion of government takeovers of any kind.

keep the change on August 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM

What would Jesus do?

He would heal the sick Himself, or through His Apostles.

I don’t recall reading of Jesus sending the sick to the Romans to be healed.

malclave on August 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM

In 2006 our Census Bureau reported that there were 46.6 million people without health ins. About 9.5 million were not US citizens. Another 17 million lived in households with incomes exceeding $50000 a year and could, purchase their own health care coverage (http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/p60-231.pdf).

18 million of those 46.6 million uninsured were between the ages of 18 and 34, most of whom were in good health and not necessarily in need of health-care coverage or chose not to purchase it. (US Dept of Health and Human Svcs: http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/05/uninsured-cps/ib.pdf).

Only 30% of the nonelderly population who became uninsured in a given year remained so for more than 12 mos. Almost 50% regained their health coverage within 4 mos. (http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results.html?artId=16014).

MarkBoabaca on August 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM

There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

Perhaps I’m listening to biased sources, but isn’t this inaccurate? I’m under the impression that even under Obamacare, something like 30 or 35 million would still not be covered.

I’d say Jesus wouldn’t want to get involved in a political debate.

terryannonline on August 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM

FTW

RightWinged on August 18, 2009 at 8:50 PM

MarkBoabaca on August 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Those are facts. They don’t mean anything in a debate. Geezzz!

kahall on August 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.

John the Libertarian on August 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM

i’m sick of politicians in general, and BHO in particular, talking about jesus.

it’s wrong.

homesickamerican on August 18, 2009 at 8:56 PM

i think first and foremost Jesus would remind the libs about that separation of church and state thing they constantly bring up….

SHARPTOOTH on August 18, 2009 at 8:58 PM

If the government can’t even run something so innocuous as “cash for clunkers” why are they even trying to nationalize health care? What a disaster in the making!

Capitalist Infidel on August 18, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Much of the liberal agenda can be opposed on the basis of two of the Ten Commandments–namely thou shalt neither steal nor covet. A strong biblical case can be made that accepting government welfare is akin to stealing, particularly if the recipient is able-bodied. And wanting and demanding things you cannot pay for, whether a home or gold-plated health care, is coveting. However, I don’t believe it’s immoral for certain people, such as widows and orphans, to accept assistance.

flyfisher on August 18, 2009 at 8:59 PM

The left is attempting to pull out all the stops to try to cause a big enough distraction so they can get their socialist crap passed.

Religion and race are being pounded out now as the way to distract. It’s not that it will make you forget about the health care debate, they are trying to force all the opposition to try to spend their time justifying their positions on other things rather than on opposing the socialist push.

Keep focused on the socialist health care bill. Don’t buy that the word socialist isn’t stinging the hell out of them, otherwise they wouldn’t be trying like bloody hell to get people off arguing that point.

Spiritk9 on August 18, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Jesus would want everyone to be a Bible clinger and then they would know it was wrong to steal from other people.

tessa on August 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Somebody needs to just drive a stake through his heart. He’s evil. Everybody get a ticket or drive to D.C. on September 12th. We’re going. Enough is enough.

suzyk on August 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM

OT, Who manages HotAir?

I can’t comment on headline threads and I can’t seem to find the appropriate person to email either.

MetaThought on August 18, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Jesus commanded us, “Love one another.”

He didn’t command, “Government take care of all.”

The first requires often difficult personal commitment.

The second requires that we cast a vote or write a check, absolving us of personal commitment.

coldwarrior on August 18, 2009 at 9:05 PM

MetaThought on August 18, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Headlines are for info only, sort of a heads up on various issues. If it comes from a blog or a site with a blog/comments section, you have to sign on to each individually. Headlines are not a HotAir proprietary.

coldwarrior on August 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM

I am always offended whenever I hear someone use the phrase “What Would Jesus Do?”. Usually it’s uttered by people who aren’t religous in any way, shape or form. It’s an in your face kind of statement that is usually uttered by a libtard, to try to make a person of faith back down. Nice to see that the Bishop didn’t use it.

Tommy_G on August 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM

I can’t comment on headline threads and I can’t seem to find the appropriate person to email either.

MetaThought on August 18, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Click on the number next to the headline you wish to comment on and see if that works.

thomasaur on August 18, 2009 at 9:10 PM

coldwarrior on August 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM

meany

thomasaur on August 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Really tough to imagine how The Won has the moral authority or leadership to give out guidance to religious leaders. I shall pray that a brave soul gives The Won a piece of his/her mind.

ted c on August 18, 2009 at 9:13 PM

2 Thessalonians 3:6-15:

Our orders—backed up by the Master, Jesus—are to refuse to have anything to do with those among you who are lazy and refuse to work the way we taught you. Don’t permit them to freeload on the rest. We showed you how to pull your weight when we were with you, so get on with it. We didn’t sit around on our hands expecting others to take care of us. In fact, we worked our fingers to the bone, up half the night moonlighting so you wouldn’t be burdened with taking care of us. And it wasn’t because we didn’t have a right to your support; we did. We simply wanted to provide an example of diligence, hoping it would prove contagious.

Don’t you remember the rule we had when we lived with you? “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.” And now we’re getting reports that a bunch of lazy good-for-nothings are taking advantage of you. This must not be tolerated. We command them to get to work immediately—no excuses, no arguments—and earn their own keep. Friends, don’t slack off in doing your duty.

If anyone refuses to obey our clear command written in this letter, don’t let him get by with it. Point out such a person and refuse to subsidize his freeloading. Maybe then he’ll think twice. But don’t treat him as an enemy. Sit him down and talk about the problem as someone who cares.

In all seriousness… no, I don’t think Jesus is in favor of big gubmint or any form of socialism. If for no other reason that it glorifies government, not God. He told US, individuals, to take care of the poor, who will inevitably be with us always. He didn’t say vote yourself a share of your neighbor’s paycheck. He said to give freely of your own.

Laura on August 18, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Jesus would tell the churches to stop building big expensive cathedrals or paying televangelists obscene amounts of money, and instead help those who are in need. For religious people to whine that others should be doing what the Lord commanded them to do is just plain wrong.

Rose on August 18, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Tommy_G on August 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Mature Christians focus on what He did on the cross and why, not what he would do now.

flyfisher on August 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM

If I ever see Joel Osteen anywhere near Obama or supporting something like ObamaCare – it will kill me seriously.

gophergirl on August 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM

How many of the posters who claimed that Jesus would not at all care about universal healthcare will now claim that it’s super sinful to support universal healthcare.

CrankyIndependent on August 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Huh?

Upstater85 on August 18, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Speaking of all these spiritual advisors, has Obama chosen a church yet, or his own spiritual advisor? Perhaps one of the thousands of advisors he will speak with (Evangelical, Catholic, Jewish, Protestant) will ask him.

btw, why won’t Obama be addressing Muslim and BLT leaders?

JiangxiDad on August 18, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Drudge is reporting that the dems are going it alone on healthcare. I’m thinking that’s the nail in their coffin.

txag92 on August 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM

If they do – I think there will be demonstrations remincent of the 60′s or bigger.

Americans are not going away on this.

gophergirl on August 18, 2009 at 9:19 PM

God is big government’s #1 competition.

29Victor on August 18, 2009 at 9:20 PM

First up is a “High Holy Day” call this morning with about 1,000 rabbis from Judaism’s Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist movements. Organizers hope the call will provide fodder for synagogue sermons when the Jewish holidays arrive next month.

Whatever happened to separation of church and state? You know, the way Catholics are criticized for taking a position on abortion?

It really doesn’t matter with the Jews, I suppose. A conservative rabbi I know has made the case that Jews must support nationalized health care because Jewish law, formulated in an era of social segregation, requires Jewish doctors to treat poor Jewish patients without charge. It therefore follows, apparently, that 2 percent of Americans should force the other 98 percent to pay for a ridiculously expensive program to satisfy the 2 percent’s religious obligations. Go figure.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 18, 2009 at 9:20 PM

There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

Bogus.

MB4 on August 18, 2009 at 9:22 PM

It really doesn’t matter with the Jews, I suppose. A conservative rabbi I know has made the case that Jews must support nationalized health care because Jewish law, formulated in an era of social segregation, requires Jewish doctors to treat poor Jewish patients without charge. It therefore follows, apparently, that 2 percent of Americans should force the other 98 percent to pay for a ridiculously expensive program to satisfy the 2 percent’s religious obligations. Go figure.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 18, 2009 at 9:20 PM

So why don’t the Jews start paying for their poor neighbors health insurance?

No, no, these Religious erhumhum lefties look to the gubmint to do their job.

Upstater85 on August 18, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Drudge is up and running “OWN IT” suggesting a piece in the NYT will show tomorrow that the

dems are ready to go it alone on healthcare.

How many promises are being made tonight to Democrats who are on the edge, likely to get thrown out of office, for post election jobs in the healthcare industry?

Call it the Obamacare Martyr’s Brigade. All congressmen and Senators are eligible for enlistment. Guaranteed job in health care industry provided that HR 3200 passes. Call former Senator Tom Daschle for details. Company car option available.

And if the bill doesn’t pass—well, they were martyr’s y’know…

ted c on August 18, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Heaven helps those who help themselves?

di butler on August 18, 2009 at 9:22 PM

I’ve heard this before but don’t believe it’s biblical…

ted c on August 18, 2009 at 9:24 PM

If they do – I think there will be demonstrators ions remincent of the in their 60’s or older making bigger noise than ever.

Americans are not going away on this.

gophergirl on August 18, 2009 at 9:19 PM

thomasaur on August 18, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Who would want to be in the same room with him? Is he going to crawl to the Catholics when he has no respect for life?
The Southern Baptists Bible clingers? The Jews as he throws Israel under the bus? He doesn’t take care of stepmother, auntie, or brother. Who the hell is he to shame us?

tessa on August 18, 2009 at 9:25 PM

He doesn’t take care of stepmother, auntie, or brother. Who the hell is he to shame us?

tessa on August 18, 2009 at 9:25 PM

QOTD

I know it’s been said before, but we really do forget what an irresponsible POS we have for president.

Upstater85 on August 18, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Rabbis, Ministers, Priests….
There is currently no denial of healthcare….
There will be denial with public option rationing and death panels!
What would Jesus do?

KILL THE BILL!

dhunter on August 18, 2009 at 9:28 PM

If Jesus is a-comin’ again he ought to make it soon
Maybe he’ll look around himself and say
Guess theses idiots have gone completely socialist bonkers, Father, and it’s time for the Judgment day

MB4 on August 18, 2009 at 9:28 PM

First up is a “High Holy Day” call this morning with about 1,000 rabbis from Judaism’s Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist movements.

He’s going to explain why everyone who says, “my son, the doctor” with pride will applaud when the doctors are driven out of the field by government bureaucrats.

cthulhu on August 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM

He wouldn’t leave babies in a closet to die, I’m pretty sure about that.

BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM

Sarc alert!

itsnotaboutme on August 18, 2009 at 9:31 PM

But maybe I’m just grabbing at straws.

VibrioCocci on August 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM

No, you’re not. Send the illegal aliens packing. The moral angle extends only so far as about 12 million people–maybe. It seems to me that God doesn’t give a crap about government solutions. He’s probably looking down on us and wondering why family, friends, and communities aren’t taking care of their own problems.

BuckeyeSam on August 18, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Allah, they left out the mooooslems he was meeting with!!!

mimi1220 on August 18, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Jesus wouldn’t like killing babies. Period. End of discussion. Jesus says Democrats roast in hell.

Jeff from WI on August 18, 2009 at 9:58 PM

The happy giver
Keeps the word and pleases God.
See Corintians…

On April 15th
Is anybody happy?
Do taxes please God?

Pretty basic stuff…
Taxes are not charity.
Print this on money.

Haiku Guy on August 18, 2009 at 10:10 PM

I just wish liberals were more willing to “do what Jesus would do” with there money rather than mine.

MHatch on August 18, 2009 at 10:10 PM

The REAL God didn’t have to beg his subjects for ultimate power over life and death.

This must be eating Obama up inside.

logis on August 18, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Wait wait wait… doesn’t the IRS go after churches if they start making political speeches?

What happened to the sacrosanct “Separation of Church and State”?

Oh, guess that goes by the wayside if you ever want a power grab.

Skywise on August 18, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Obama is scheduled to address more than 1,000 religious figures in two conference calls, allowing him to extend his message to legions of faithful in the pews.

This is not the Obama I knew. I thought he only went to church when he was campaigning! Wait a second. He is campaigning for HealthCare….

TN Mom on August 18, 2009 at 10:29 PM

Last Friday the Washington Post published a column by Pastor John MacArthur titled Read the Gospels: JC is Not PC. Dr. MacArthur, one of the most distinguished Christian authors and Bible scholars of modern times, seeks to shatter the illusion of Jesus as a hippie-fied self-help counselor.

Jesus healed the sick, but that primarily served to prove to those who witnessed his healings that he was the Messiah. As MacArthur said in this Q&A, “the gift of healing, which Jesus demonstrated, was unique to Him, the 70, and the apostles, and even diminishes with the apostles, as I commented on this morning. Paul met Trophimus when he was sick, and left him sick. So, even in Paul’s case, the power to heal had diminished as his ministry went on. I was talking about the gift of healing; that is, somebody here has the power to heal. Jesus had it and He gave it to those who were around Him who were His representatives, in order to affirm that the gospel that He was bringing and they were preaching was in fact from God. The gift of healing was the specific issue to deal with in the life of Jesus.”

Terrie on August 18, 2009 at 10:29 PM

The Bishop made a very interesting point,referencing the fact that so many hospitals were founded by churches.Under the government option,what seperation of church and state issues could possibly arise?
WWJD?Jesus didn’t practice medicine,he was the faith healer.Not being sarcastic,just respectfully pointing out the belief of most Christians.Those who Jesus cured didn’t need insurance.

DDT on August 18, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Obama to hold secret backroom meetings with clergy. Will he promise to bring back National Day of Prayer for their support of ObamaCare?

TN Mom on August 18, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Jesus would definitely not support anything where the money required to care for people is forcibly taken from other people.

He would also not support any government mandated and controlled health system. Jesus was much more of a personal ‘take care of your neighbor’ person.

And if the Democrats actually STUDIED the Bible and went to church (other than churches that preach “God d*mn America”, that is)…

…they would know this.

Religious_Zealot on August 18, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Time for the Catholics to step up and show where they stand on Abortion since we will all be paying for them and HIV/AIDS.

Oh wait I guess Notre Dame already did that earlier this year!
Abortion?
Notre Dame, “not so bad”!

dhunter on August 18, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Jesus loved the idea of throwing rich people in jail if they did not give their money away?

JohnJ on August 18, 2009 at 11:01 PM

There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

Sometimes libs are right when they say conservative blogs consist of idiots.

xblade on August 18, 2009 at 11:14 PM

There are several parables that show what Jesus would do. When ask to cure people he first asked about their faith, and then said it was your faith that healed you. Another time He went back to Bethlehem and no one was healed because of their disbelief. I can see government intervening right now because 47 million were left untreated. He refused their right to health care! Oh my.

So let’s talk about right’s for a minute.
There was this guy that owned a vineyard, and he hired some workers in the morning for $10 for the day. At lunch, mid-day he hired some more workers and paid them $10 for the day. Later towards the end of the day, he hired more workers and paid them $10, too. the union reps came to Him and said it wasn’t fair that he paid those who came last and worked little the same as those who came first. Forget about the first and last part, pay attention to what else he said. Basically he said it is my field and my money I can do with it what ever I want.

Next vineyard, because maybe you didn’t get the point. The workers united against the landlord of the vineyard and decided to keep the fruits of their labor, after all it was their work. He sent his foreman to collect. The workers united, and threw him off the property. Then he sent his son and they killed him. Now what the landlord didn’t do was go talk and negotiate a settlement for fair wages, or hear their complaints, and that this is Jesus talking. The landlord sent his small army and completely destroyed these people.

Points to take away. Jesus didn’t much like unions or labor movements. He believed in property rights, he believed you truly must heal yourself, and faith is kinda important.

odannyboy on August 18, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Jesus loved the idea of throwing rich people in jail if they did not give their money away?

JohnJ

Especially for not giving it those who wasted their own money on luxuries instead of taking care of their families needs first.

xblade on August 18, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Jesus is concerned for the souls of all men and women … so I think he would say we should pray for liberals before we kick their asses.

darwin on August 18, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Didn’t he also say the poor you shall always have with you.

See Jesus already went thru this. There was this expensive perfume that Mary wanted to rub on his feet. Judas, asked why don’t we sell it and use the money for the poor. Jesus said no, I like it and I am worth it, it was for his burial by the way and in the end it won’t really help the poor, they will still be poor.

odannyboy on August 18, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Obama is scheduled to address more than 1,000 religious figures in two conference calls, allowing him to extend his message to legions of faithful in the pews.

“Conference calls”? So, will there be a question-and-answer session? He’ll either have to jabber like a braindead moron to avoid answering any questions about whether Communised Medicine will cover abortions, or he’ll have to completely ignore the elephant in the living room during his tele-sermon, and that’s all any of the religious leaders will talk about from then on.

You see, that’s the problem with being a megalomaniacal narcissist: whenever you’re on a roll, the rubes will all be eating out of your hand. But when you finally have a meltdown, you go ALL the way.

logis on August 18, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Obama is scheduled to address more than 1,000 religious figures in two conference calls, allowing him to extend his message to legions of faithful in the pews.

He should probably start off with a feed of Rev’rend Wright’s famous ‘GodDamn America’ Speech.

That aught to get em’ going….

BigWyo on August 18, 2009 at 11:51 PM

Heaven helps those who help themselves?

di butler on August 18, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Socialism helps those who help themselves . . .

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. . . to other people’s money.

hillbillyjim on August 18, 2009 at 11:54 PM

I have a sneaking suspicion that Jesus would not tell bald-faced lies every time his mouth moved. Pretty sure, in fact.

G.dd.mn America!

hillbillyjim on August 18, 2009 at 11:58 PM

What would Jesus do?

Mark 2:15-17,

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While he was at table in his house, many tax collectors and sinners sat with Jesus and his disciples; for there were many who followed him.

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Some scribes who were Pharisees saw that he was eating with sinners and tax collectors and said to his disciples, “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?”
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Jesus heard this and said to them (that), “Those who are well do not need a physician, but the sick do. I did not come to call the righteous but sinners.”

That seems to put ObamaCare, which is ultimately health care for the healthy, to bed.

BKennedy on August 19, 2009 at 12:04 AM

I can’t help wondering how helping people to be parasites, encouraging people to be parasites, is what “Jesus would do”.

jaime on August 19, 2009 at 12:19 AM

Morality is a function of free will. Government enforced “morality” is a function of coercion, coercion in this case to be enforced by the IRS and the fact that government fiats are ultimately backed by having a monopoly on violence and access to deadly force.

Laurence on August 19, 2009 at 12:22 AM

Actually this was THE subject of sermon at mass this past Sunday. Expected the usual social justice talk…and was surprised to hear:

our health care is the best in the world;

any plan with abortion funding should be a non-starter;

same for any plan with a slippery slope towards euthanasia;

better no plan than the current plan.

Most important was note that 30 percent in polls had no opinion. Father encouraged young people to read up and ask questions and get involved, don’t be apathetic. Reaffirmed my belief that people ARE paying attention.

thirtypundit on August 19, 2009 at 12:49 AM

47 million without health insurance

15-20 million illegial aliens

Removing END of LIFE decisions from the patient and physician
Priceless Disastrous

scruplesrx on August 19, 2009 at 1:04 AM

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.

John the Libertarian on August 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM

The flip side is, “Do not render unto Caesar what is not Caesar’s.”

The camels nose is in the tent. We must stand firm against further government intrusion into health care.

darktood on August 19, 2009 at 2:21 AM

There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

And Jesus saith, “Let the government pay for their healthcare.”

Uh-uh, I don’t think so.

eclark1849 on August 19, 2009 at 2:49 AM

I think Jesus would say:

“The Lord will not hold him guiltless who taketh the name of the Lord in vain”

landlines on August 19, 2009 at 2:55 AM

There are worse sales pitches than reminding evangelicals that universal health care means treatment for 47 million people who currently suffer without.

Actually, “universal health care” means the destruction of treatment for 400 million people who now have access to the best health care in the world.

landlines on August 19, 2009 at 2:59 AM

Actually, “universal health care” means the destruction of treatment for 400 million people who now have access to the best health care in the world.
landlines on August 19, 2009 at 2:59 AM

As Mark Steyn says, the emphasis is on universal health CARE, not universal health TREATMENT.

In England, you can go to an underpaid doctor, and he’ll hold your hand and tell you whatever you’re going through is perfectly natural. But if you want to get it fixed, you have to fly 4,000 miles.

That’s why Canada has the best “European style” medical system: because it’s not in Europe.

logis on August 19, 2009 at 6:26 AM

Why would the President who announced to the world that America is no longer a Christian nation, now be trying to scam people into buying into his health care plan because Jesus would want us to accept it?

ElainaVer on August 19, 2009 at 7:04 AM

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