Video: A Corker of a town hall

posted at 2:22 pm on August 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Lest anyone believe that Democrats have gotten all of the heat from angry constituents over health-care reform, Tennessee’s WATE reports on a lively meeting hosted by Senator Bob Corker (R) for his Bradley County constituents. Despite already having established his opposition to ObamaCare, voters overflowed out of a Lee University meeting room to push the point home with Corker. Mostly, they expressed anger from being mischaracterized as un-American and racist for opposing a government takeover of health care:

For the most part, Sen. Corker is on their side in opposing President Barack Obama’s philosophy on health care reform.

Still, the mostly Republican crowd let him know how they feel about others in Washington.

“I would ask that you tell Nancy Pelosi, I’m one of those ugly mobsters. I’m not a racist. I’m an American and I’m sick and tired of sitting here every time something goes wrong with the president’s plan, we are all racists. Well guess what? If he can call me a racist, more power to him, but he’s lying,” said Ron Harwell.

The crowd was passionate and seemed to have done its homework. Some told personal stories, like Bob Dupuy describing his wife’s terminal illness.

“After discussions with our physicians, and they laid everything out for us, the choice was made by me and my children to decide to terminate my wife’s life. And I don’t want the government or anybody else, anybody in this facility, telling me the government has a right to take our lives,” Dupuy said.

Corker told the crowd he understands, but says the anger at government goes beyond health care.

“I think it is about the fact that everyone in this country is waking up, or the majority of the people in this country are waking up and realizing that we have a government that is out of control,” Corker said.

Polimom over at The Moderate Voice pushes back against the “racist” charge as well:

Because everyone know that we are essentially European, right? Nothing in our history has led to a different view of redistribution (like…say… leading the West in a very long Cold War…), or of governmental power (like… say… breaking free of a European autocracy at our inception…). Little things like Federalism and the deliberate design of a limited central government are just minor details. …

Self-reliance and independence are not secondary afterthoughts, and the inability to understand these core values by some liberals confounds me. Why does there have to be more to it? The fundamental feeling that a person is responsible for him/herself isn’t enough? When did adhering to deeply held principles become “working against their own interests”?

I’ll answer that question. It comes from a sense of desperation on the Left, borne of the realization that they miscalculated the health-care debate. As objections have grown, they have tried to find ways to silence the opposition — because they can’t answer the actual objections. Some advocates have honestly tried to argue for the benefits they see from a government-run system, but most just vilify and demonize the opposition instead.

The racism charge is truly a desperate, Hail Mary rhetorical pass. Supposedly, all of this opposition comes from the color of our President’s skin, despite the fact that he won 53% of the vote just nine months ago. However, how do these people explain the same exact furor over the Clinton effort to nationalize health care 16 years ago?

The advocates of ObamaCare don’t want to admit to the radical nature of their agenda and the legitimate philosophical differences between the sides. Meybe it’s because they can’t win that argument.

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The advocates of ObamaCare don’t want to admit to the radical nature of their agenda and the legitimate philosophical differences between the sides. Meybe it’s because they can’t win that argument.

Yup.

modnar on August 18, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Playing the ‘race card’ is, like their other gambits, blowing up in their faces. Next they’ll be whining that ‘people don’t trust us’.

Well, when you have no credibility to begin with, why should we trust you?

GarandFan on August 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM

“A government that is out of control”….? I think I know how to take back our America but some of the Repubs may not make the trip…

d1carter on August 18, 2009 at 2:28 PM

However, how do these people explain the same exact furor over the Clinton effort to nationalize health care 16 years ago?

We are OBVIOUSLY all sexist too because Hillary spearheaded the effort 16 yrs ago.

Wine_N_Dine on August 18, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Self-reliance and independence are not secondary afterthoughts, and the inability to understand these core values by some liberals confounds me. Why does there have to be more to it? The fundamental feeling that a person is responsible for him/herself isn’t enough?

Worth repeating.

Government, get out of my life.

davidk on August 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM

The racism charge is truly a desperate,Hail Mary rhetorical pass.

Anyone that is familiar with the scandal with the mayor of Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick, will remember him playing the race/racism card right before he was found guilty and went to jail. This coming from a black man living in a predominately black city. He was desperate, just as supporters of Obamacare are desperate. It is an attempted diversion from the issues at hand.

evie on August 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Corker is a decent guy.

MSNBC painted him as ‘racist’ because of a tv ad back in 2006 against Harold Ford. The ad showed people saying “i dont know much about harold ford, but he sure does give a good speech”, interspersed with people saying “i vacationed with harold in aspen”, “i kicked back a few with harold in nashville”, etc. with someone saying “i met harold at the playboy mansion”.

Keep in mind that harold ford ran the first ever ad of anyone INSIDE A CHURCH SANCTUARY. he had choirs singing and a CROSS over his shoulder…… yet he’s hanging out at the playboy mansion on the weekend.

it was a brilliant ad.

until…

msnbc freaked out that the “playboy mansion” girl was WHITE and LIGHT HAIRED. the horror! eugene robinson wrote screeds about miscigenation, and “black man white woman” fears.

um, guys? what percent of playboy girls ARENT white women with light hair? like 1 in 100?

nevertheless, corker was deemed “racist” because of a GOOD AD.

battleoflepanto1571 on August 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM

I think it is very telling to see even Republicans like Corker and Sen. Coburn drawing huge crowds. People are FED UP with Washington. This is not a partisan thing, except to the extent that Democrats have produced Big Government On Steroids since taking over in January, and it SURELY is not a racial thing!

rockmom on August 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM

I’ve been waiting to hear reports on GOP held townhalls. This is the type of message that they need to hear to hold their feet to the fire…

KILL the BILL. No negotiations… get the government OUT of the way.

phreshone on August 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM

However, how do these people explain the same exact furor over the Clinton effort to nationalize health care 16 years ago?

That was sexism. This is racism. The statist will try one more time using a homosexual as a lead person. They will be rejected again and conservatives and many Americans well be proven to be racist, sexists, homophobes.

WashJeff on August 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Sweet. My Senator.

Corker told the crowd he understands, but says the anger at government goes beyond health care.
“I think it is about the fact that everyone in this country is waking up, or the majority of the people in this country are waking up and realizing that we have a government that is out of control,” Corker said.

ladyingray on August 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM

All campaigns–for policies as well as candidates–need to ‘reinforce’ as well as ‘activate’ voters. This event was mostly a ‘reinforcement’ event, and thus valuable and necessary

Very few minds are changed in campaigns; we have over a half-century of date to prove this important fact. Two thirds of the voters have their minds made up ( and won’t change ), so campaigns are largely about ‘activating’ that remaining one-third–who are less likely to vote and less informed than the partisan two-thirds.

Once you get people to decide which policy or candidate to support, though, their decision needs to be reinforced. In any good campaign, activation and reinforcement are going on in partnership–but people tend to overlook the value and necessity of reinforcement.

So, this ‘town hall’ was a Good Thing…….

Janos Hunyadi on August 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Corker told the crowd he understands, but says the anger at government goes beyond health care.

“I think it is about the fact that everyone in this country is waking up, or the majority of the people in this country are waking up and realizing that we have a government that is out of control,” Corker said.

I think we have a politician who gets it.

BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM

The racism charge is truly a desperate, Hail Mary rhetorical pass.

basic MO during desparate times with these folks

cmsinaz on August 18, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Sort of OT, but I love how Democrats whine about their politicians getting reemed at public functions. They’re just not used to it, whereas for us, it’s been the norm forever.

What do propose they do in response (excluding union-initiated violence and sicking goon squads onto private citizens)?

Threaten to astroturf themselves organize to jeer at a Republican politicians?

OH NO. NOT THAT. UNPRECEDENTED. HELP.

Good Lt on August 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM

“I think it is about the fact that everyone in this country is waking up, or the majority of the people in this country are waking up and realizing that we have a government that is out of seeks absolute and total control,” Corker said.

FIFY

OhEssYouCowboys on August 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM

“More power to him, but he’s lying…” TN American Patriot

Thank you sir!

Laura in Maryland on August 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Mark Steyn just had a great line on Rush’s show. Building on W’s saying that “Family values don’t end at the Rio Grande” he adds “but the U.S. does.” I don’t know if it’s been said before, it is new to me and I like it.

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Playing the ‘race card’ is, like their other gambits, blowing up in their faces. Next they’ll be whining that ‘people don’t trust us’.

Well, when you have no credibility to begin with, why should we trust you?

GarandFan on August 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Claire MaCaskill already asked that question in a townhall. When people responded loudly that they did not trust her, she was quite taken aback.

ICBM on August 18, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Didn’t Obama repeat over and over that he was going to usher in a new form of government? Given the anger and venting from the public about anything-government I believe he may just do that, but not in the way he intended.

sherry on August 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Many of the people “just now” getting upset over Obamacare, and the massive federal take over of just about everything have no excuse. The information was out there, and many of the voters chose to ignore it. It’s nice that many are starting to realize what a disaster the Democrat Party is, but it may be a day late and a dollar short.

I expect Obamacare to pass and get signed into law, I expect more businesses to be taken over, and and a massive overburdening of tax payers to pick up the tab for Obamacare, ACORN, unions, abortion, illegal immigrants, and every conceivable liberal pet peve.

The Elderly with AARP are probably the biggest example of what’s to come, the elderly deluded themselves thinking that AARP was non-political, even though it behaved as a Democrat Party lacky, now the elderly are acting astonished that the AARP is supporting Obamacare.

Rode Werk on August 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM

OT: Doofus White House Gibbs is tap dancing now in front of the doofus White House press corp…”what he/she meant to say”

d1carter on August 18, 2009 at 2:37 PM

How thick are the skulls of Democrat politicians? How oblivious is this White House?

It’s not because we’re being mislead or because we don’t understand this dog’s breakfast of a plan.

It’s not because we haven’t been educated.

It’s because the plans sucks and we don’t want it.

How hard is that to grasp?

NoDonkey on August 18, 2009 at 2:37 PM

..I dunno, seems that if more of the folks in our gumming were as responsive as Corker, this anger and frusttration would be a lot more diminished.

I know this guy may have his faults but his conduct and responses sure beat the skippy out of some boney-assed, botoxed, hypocritical bitch from San Francisco telling us we are racists nazis.

VoyskaPVO on August 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM

“The racism charge is truly a desperate, Hail Mary rhetorical pass.”

Leave it to the Democrats to try something new………

Seven Percent Solution on August 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Sigh…when will we hear a politician notice that health care costs are not about insurance, they’re about LAWYERS?

Over 80% of trial lawyers’ political donations in the last 10 years have gone to Democrats. Both major parties are corrupt to the bone because of the infiltration of legalism into the political process. Every time there’s a disagreement that ends up in a courtroom, the lawyers get paid first.

Cui Bono?

warbaby on August 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Corker told the crowd he understands, but says the anger at government goes beyond health care.

And beyond party too…

But yeah, he might just get it.

Upstater85 on August 18, 2009 at 2:40 PM

How thick are the skulls of Democrat politicians? How oblivious is this White House?

They are pretty far from stupid, they have a supermajority of the federal government. Do you expect them to act like Republicans?

Rode Werk on August 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM

The racism charge is truly a desperate, Hail Mary rhetorical pass.

When they pull out that trump card, you know they have lost the argument.

Vashta.Nerada on August 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM

sherry on August 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Heh. Nice observation.

Patrick S on August 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM

We knew they would go to the race card when things got tough for Obama. The problem is they’re being forced to play it less than 7 months into his Presidency. And to make matters worse, it’s having no effect(aside from pissing off the public even more).

This is the dilemma of Obama and the Dems. They can’t debate conservatives on the issues, because the American people won’t knowingly accept socialism. The Alinsky smear tactics no longer work. And Obama can’t fall back on the “trust me” argument thanks to the failure of Porkulus.

Doughboy on August 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM

So this thread shows the choir preaching to the preacher?

Jeff from WI on August 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM

The racism charge is truly a desperate, Hail Mary rhetorical pass. Supposedly, all of this opposition comes from the color of our President’s skin, despite the fact that he won 53% of the vote just nine months ago. However, how do these people explain the same exact furor over the Clinton effort to nationalize health care 16 years ago?

Sexism, Silly!
What could be more obvious?
It’s always an “ism”…

Haiku Guy on August 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM

As I have said before, I miss the country I grew up in, but these townhall meetings give me hope that the American spirit is alive and well, but it has just been resting not gone like I feared back in November.

txmomof6 on August 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Self-reliance and independence are not secondary afterthoughts, and the inability to understand these core values by some liberals confounds me.

YES!!!!

That’a the FOUNDATION of the USA. Liberals need to move to South America or Europe, Eastern Europe, etc., and “run” for dictator there. Stop trying to undo the greatness of this country.

Daggett on August 18, 2009 at 2:48 PM

How are free-market principles “racist”?

Same way everything else is: They need it to be.

Jim Treacher on August 18, 2009 at 2:48 PM

I read somewhere (can’t remember) that the AARP lost somewhere around 16,000 of it’s members.

This is how they will get it through their heads. MONEY MONEY MONEY

kthomas8268 on August 18, 2009 at 2:49 PM

I read somewhere (can’t remember) that the AARP lost somewhere around 16,000 of it’s members.

This is how they will get it through their heads. MONEY MONEY MONEY

kthomas8268 on August 18, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Saw a report earlier… but it was 60,000

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/18/aarp-losing-members-health-care-faces-challenge-grassroots-senior-advocacy/

Romeo13 on August 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Claire MaCaskill already asked that question in a townhall. When people responded loudly that they did not trust her, she was quite taken aback.

I saw that too, and on most of these townhall politicians faces…. talk about living in a bubble.

kthomas8268 on August 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM

kthomas8268 on August 18, 2009 at 2:49 PM

not 16,000, but 60,000.

cs89 on August 18, 2009 at 2:52 PM

I’d be interested in hearing a lefty argue that free markets are racist. I think their definition of racism would be quite interesting to hear. Once we heard the left’s definition of racism, I think we could label them racist with their own definition.

Upstater85 on August 18, 2009 at 2:53 PM

HA,,,, well well well 60,000 AARP members lost … I wonder what other news outlet will be reporting this? I won’t hold my breath waiting.

kthomas8268 on August 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Republicans need to listen to their voters too. We the American voters are tired of paying for everything. If you continue to spend money like there is no tomorrow, then you will be voted out starting November 2010. You think voters have a short memory? You are wrong, because if you continue this mad spending, the remaining Congress made up of Republicans, Democrats and Independents will be voted out in 2012 and then in 2014.
Quit spending money!!!!

yoda on August 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM

It is possible that those who hurl the charge “racist” at anti-Obamacare protesters are thinking that the protesters don’t want to help black people, and that their objections have nothing to do with the race of the President.

Either way, I think the charge is unfounded.

ksm on August 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM

As I have said before, I miss the country I grew up in, but these townhall meetings give me hope that the American spirit is alive and well, but it has just been resting not gone like I feared back in November.

txmomof6 on August 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM

I agree. My trepidation has been replaced with hope. I will be further bolstered when this fool starts campaigning for 2012. If he gets what he wants in healthcare, his rallies are going to be bigger and louder versions of this year’s town halls. For a president who can’t even appear on Fox News, I doubt he could take 10,000 dissenting voices in one arena.

sherry on August 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM

I’d be interested in hearing a lefty argue that free markets are racist. I think their definition of racism would be quite interesting to hear. Once we heard the left’s definition of racism, I think we could label them racist with their own definition.

Upstater85 on August 18, 2009 at 2:53 PM

Just read Eugene Robinson, Charles Blow, or Bob Herbert. There is no subject impervious to an arguement of racism from them.

ICBM on August 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM

I hope they keep on calling us racists, bigots, keep it up…first they have set the “black” agenda back by 40 years, which is a shame, and their fault…but the good news is, liberals have shown what we knew they always were, shallow people, that are greedy and power hungry. Relentless even to the fact of calling Americans, traitors, just to try to win their way.
Well have at it, every day their pole numbers go down, as real Americans can see just how empty their “suit” is.

right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Whenever the left is on trouble on an issue they first try to marginalize the opposition as being dupes of some evil conservative cabal. If that fails they refine the attack to dangerous mobs and when that fails they bring out the tried and true, racist, sexist homophobe curse…The media will double their efforts to carry the lefts water with each increase in the vitriol…

As we have never seen a political debate get past the false charge of racist, this could be the first time folk get angry and do not back off when the lie is wielded like a club.

JIMV on August 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Mostly, they expressed anger from being mischaracterized as un-American and racist for opposing a government takeover of health care:

As Predicted. Obama and the Left really screwed up. They had no one person (i.e., Leader) that they could focus on so they made the major mistake of demonizing average Americans. That made all their lies plainly obvious to all but the willfully blind. Thank God they aren’t nearly as smart as they think they are. This mistake is near fatal. I hope they keep doing it.

TheBigOldDog on August 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM

However, how do these people explain the same exact furor over the Clinton effort to nationalize health care 16 years ago?

Bill Clinton was the first black president, duh! See, you can make anything racist if only you think like a lib.

Monica on August 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM

How are free-market principles “racist”?

Simple. They don’t allow for the idea of whitey being made to subsidize the existence of entire cities worth of minorities at the point of the tax-man’s gun.

Dark-Star on August 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM

if this crap passes in any form I will:

refuse to pay income tax
join a militia

Onager on August 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM

There is one thing that bugs me as much as the Race Card, maybe more. It’s when Black “intellectuals” tell me that minorities cannot be guilty of racism because they are not in a position of power or authority. Allegations of racism are the sword and the shield for them.

BigAlSouth on August 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM

“After discussions with our physicians, and they laid everything out for us, the choice was made by me and my children to decide to terminate my wife’s life. And I don’t want the government or anybody else, anybody in this facility, telling me the government has a right to take our lives,” Dupuy said.

A true American.
God Bless.

ouldbollix on August 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM

HA,,,, well well well 60,000 AARP members lost … I wonder what other news outlet will be reporting this? I won’t hold my breath waiting.

kthomas8268 on August 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM

.15% of their membership…just a blip.

right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM

It’s nice that many are starting to realize what a disaster the Democrat Party is, but it may be a day late and a dollar short.

Rode Werk on August 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM

It’s not too late. It’s never too late. Apathy has got us into this mess and it won’t get us out. Like most of us were taught, anything good takes hard work. Liberty requires a determined and persistent People. You know how it goes… all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Do not allow evil to triumph. Do not do sit by and do nothing. – E. Burke. It’s time for people who do not want to be politicians to start running against those who so long for the power of office. I want to see politicians go to Washington because they feel it’s their duty to reign in this federal beast, to limit the cancerous growth of the feds and then come home.

j_galt on August 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Mostly, they expressed anger from being mischaracterized as un-American and racist for opposing a government takeover of health care:

Opposing government takeovers makes one un-collectivist not un-American. As far as opposing a government takeover making one a racist, that makes about as much sense as calling one who opposes a government takeover fat or skinny or accusing them of having high cholesterol; a total mental discombobulation.

MB4 on August 18, 2009 at 3:03 PM

We need term limits. Or maybe we could start with ‘time outs’ that require our reps and senators to live in the real world for a few years. I know, I know… but it’s nice to think about.

j_galt on August 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM

I’m not sure Corker understands that much, he needed to have another hot poker applied to his backside when he finishes up with a wimpy ‘I think the HC Bill will pass’.
I really don’t know how much I trust any R Senators except maybe Sen. Demint!

el Vaquero on August 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Every Republican should be holding these meetings…the dems are in hiding, we should be out in force.
Every Republican leader, where are your town meetings…let’s show the rest of America, let’s give the rest of America a chance to voice their opinion…and yes, let’s allow the pro-health people to voice theirs at the meeting, they don’t we will show them what true democracy is like.

right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM

HA,,,, well well well 60,000 AARP members lost … I wonder what other news outlet will be reporting this? I won’t hold my breath waiting.

kthomas8268 on August 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Miraculously, CBS has in addition to Fox.

The latter is no surprise but the former sure is.

teke184 on August 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM

I’d be interested in hearing a lefty argue that free markets are racist. I think their definition of racism would be quite interesting to hear. Once we heard the left’s definition of racism, I think we could label them racist with their own definition.

It’s a pretty common argument – at least in academic circles.

Don’t forget that one of the Kwanzaa “seven values” is “cooperative economics”.

Farmer_Joe on August 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM

I live in Kentucky — just 19 miles from the Tennessee line — and I listen to Nashville radio stations during a good portion of my day. I loved the ads Senator Corker used run with his mother saying “Cawker.” Loved ‘em.

Since I live so close to Tennessee, I sometimes consider Sen. Corker my senator. No offense to McConnell and Bunning, but those guys just don’t get me charged up too much.

Before all of these town hall meetings blew up, I told people that the anger in America was palpable to me. I sensed it when I traveled around Kentucky with my job. I really sensed it when I spent a week on Perdido Bay along the Alabama-Florida border.

I don’t remember any time like this in my lifetime. I sense that the nation is a powder keg right now, and we have a very arrogant and very ignorant president.

Ampleforth on August 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Corker told the crowd he understands, but says the anger at government goes beyond health care.

“I think it is about the fact that everyone in this country is waking up, or the majority of the people in this country are waking up and realizing that we have a government that is out of control,” Corker said.

I did not vote for Corker. I voted for Ford. But he’s on the money on this one and I’m grateful that he is.

theblackcommenter on August 18, 2009 at 3:07 PM

What WILL the 5 10 20 30 40 50 million uninsured DO?

Mojave Mark on August 18, 2009 at 3:08 PM

As Predicted. Obama and the Left really screwed up. They had no one person (i.e., Leader) that they could focus on so they made the major mistake of demonizing average Americans. That made all their lies plainly obvious to all but the willfully blind. Thank God they aren’t nearly as smart as they think they are. This mistake is near fatal. I hope they keep doing it.

TheBigOldDog on August 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Well you know what they say, “If it sounds like Karl Marx, acts like Benito Mussolini and stumbles like Bozo the Clown, it’s probably Barack Obama!”

MB4 on August 18, 2009 at 3:08 PM

The racism charge is truly a desperate, Hail Mary rhetorical pass.

Liberals seem to be desperate a lot.

MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM

Why won’t Nancy Pelosi call us “un-American” to our faces? Hold a few town hall meetings, Nancy. I double botox dare ya!

SouthernGent on August 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM

My representative is one of those Blue Dogs, and he has consistently said he opposes government health care. He had a full house for his town hall meeting:

U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor answered questions Monday night on health care, defense and tax issues from conservatives, Republicans, Democrats and others during a heated town hall meeting.

About 1,000 poured into the Pelican Landing Conference Center, while many more were turned away when the building was filled to capacity for the highly anticipated talk.

Note that “conservatives” are separate from “Republicans.” Maybe someone at the Sun Herald has a clue.

icyhot on August 18, 2009 at 3:13 PM

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM

gotta love Mark Steyn.

Geochelone on August 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Don’t forget that one of the Kwanzaa “seven values” is “cooperative economics”.

Farmer_Joe on August 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM

So is that why Africa’s such a toilet bowl…

Dark-Star on August 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM

right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM

my guys are next tues
McCain
Franks

Shaddegg had one a couple of saturdays ago…

hope to see a full house for both!!

cmsinaz on August 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM

They are pretty far from stupid, they have a supermajority of the federal government.

Congratulations, but the greasers who engineered that, aren’t Democrat pols. They are criminals like David Assrod. That’s where the brains are.

Obama, Pelosi and Reid are garden variety idiots, promoted far beyond their abilities and qualifications. That’s exactly why this stupid “plan” has run aground.

Do you expect them to act like Republicans?

I would like them to resign, but as people supposedly elected as representatives of the American people, I would expect them to actually listen to the people.

But without the corruption, the tin ears and the gross incompetence, they wouldn’t be Democrats, would they?

NoDonkey on August 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Don’t forget that one of the Kwanzaa “seven values” is “cooperative economics”.

Farmer_Joe on August 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM

So is that why Africa’s such a toilet bowl…

Dark-Star on August 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Whoa buddy!! Back up there.

theblackcommenter on August 18, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Claire MaCaskill already asked that question in a townhall. When people responded loudly that they did not trust her, she was quite taken aback.

One of my senators. Ugh. The expression on her face was incredible and was definitely not a “they like me, they really like me” moment. One would have hoped it might have been a wake up call and “teaching moment,” but given her history to date, probably not. 2010 and 2012 cannot come soon enough.

gonegaltinstl on August 18, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Today a bill was passed to bring Hamas to America, and we the taxpayer are paying the bill, just like the ughras (sp) plus those pesky immigrants want to lop off our heads….thanks politicians.

Re: AARP…..REFUND MY MONEY. you have not represented yourselves in a truthful manner.

Also read today we gave Brazil 10 billion to drill for OIL…….

Today read mom-inlaw practicing VooDoo….Priestess hanging out in WH.

Who are these monsters.

nondhimmie on August 18, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Fox news just said the Obama WH said the public option has NOT been removed and will continue pushing for it.

thmcbb on August 18, 2009 at 3:24 PM

If people claim they had no idea what they were electing, they have to be kidding. We had two years of a Democratic congress led by the same faces that worked so hard to bring defeat to the war. Raising taxes on Americans who can’t even afford to make ends meet, while they line the pockets of those that support them is all they know.

Hening on August 18, 2009 at 3:24 PM

I did not vote for Corker. I voted for Ford. But he’s on the money on this one and I’m grateful that he is.

theblackcommenter on August 18, 2009 at 3:07 PM

I wouldn’t have told that on myself. lol

Big Orange on August 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM

KILL the BILL. No negotiations… get the government OUT of the way.

and start to shrink government. After all, GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM.

gonegaltinstl on August 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Old rule per Bill Clinton: If you know something isn’t true and wish it were, keep referencing it as a fact and eventually it’ll be accepted as truth.

Obama: Damn, why won’t that work for me….ok, this instead. Lie my ass off. If that doesn’t work, lie, then quickly change the subject and call them racists.

Yeah…that works.

Spiritk9 on August 18, 2009 at 3:27 PM

During the campaign when Obama could not find anyone to play the race card against; he played it on himself!! Remember him saying that people made fun of his funny name,his Dumbo ears,and his color. He made up a “racist” to garner sympathy and support. He reminds me of the characters in Blazing Saddles who take themselves hostage!Blacks have cried “wolf” so long that I believe it has stopped working.I actually heard some civil rights “leaduh” on PBS saying that when people demand personal responsibility for their actions; They are racist because that is coded language to criticize Black behavior!With that mindset it will take blacks another 200years to assimilate into this society! The first 200 don’t seem to be working out very well!

Marco on August 18, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Liberals have collectively become the chat room bully that everyone else hates.

southsideironworks on August 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM

I did not vote for Corker. I voted for Ford. But he’s on the money on this one and I’m grateful that he is.

theblackcommenter on August 18, 2009 at 3:07 PM

I wouldn’t have told that on myself. lol

Big Orange on August 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Confession is good for the soul!

theblackcommenter on August 18, 2009 at 3:35 PM

theblackcommenter on August 18, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Rep. Ford is a fine man. I’d be very surprised that anyone here would give you grief about it.

Cindy Munford on August 18, 2009 at 3:40 PM

I actually heard some civil rights “leaduh” on PBS saying that when people demand personal responsibility for their actions; They are racist because that is coded language to criticize Black behavior!

Marco on August 18, 2009 at 3:31 PM

I must be a very color-blind racist. And can you be racist toward lazy family members, or is there a different word for that?

j_galt on August 18, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Sigh…when will we hear a politician notice that health care costs are not about insurance, they’re about LAWYERS?

Over 80% of trial lawyers’ political donations in the last 10 years have gone to Democrats. Both major parties are corrupt to the bone because of the infiltration of legalism into the political process. Every time there’s a disagreement that ends up in a courtroom, the lawyers get paid first.

Cui Bono?

warbaby on August 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM

How many of our elected “officials” are lawyers? Is there a link?

Why is it the United States does not have nor grant titles of nobility but yet when one of these former officials leaves office the title goes with them?

AASLT on August 18, 2009 at 3:43 PM

.15% of their membership…just a blip.

right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM

The longest journey begins with but a single step.

Oldnuke on August 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM

God what a bind they’re in. They wanted power and got it. But now all they have are the gambits and games that served them as “outsiders” and attackers. They are not comfortable, in their deepest natures, with anything other than attack. They never wanted to win an argument with persuasion and good faith. They do not want compromise, conciliation, even co-existence with us. They only want THEIR WAY. But THEIR WAY is a trainwreck and always was and maybe, just as deeply, they know this. Still, it feels too good to want it, and it is too difficult, too unnatural, not to attack to get it, and so here we are. At this point, all there is left to see is what other, new form the hatred and ravenous need will take.

rrpjr on August 18, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Because everyone know that we are essentially European, right?

Marx and Engles were European. They have more than enough affection for them. What they hate is not our European heritage per se, but Christendom.

Akzed on August 18, 2009 at 3:49 PM

How are free-market principles “racist”?

Simple: If you believe – as all liberals do – that black people are congentially inferior to white people, then it naturally follows that it is impossible for black people to compete in any system which values individual rights above group rights.

And if you don’t believe that, then you’re a racist.

logis on August 18, 2009 at 3:54 PM

How ironic and hypocritical is it that
Glenn Beck is getting castrated over his racism remark about Obama, but that US Congressmen can say the same thing about the majority of Americans and there is no outrage bythe MSM.

idahoconservative on August 18, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Self-reliance and independence are not secondary afterthoughts, and the inability to understand these core values by some liberals confounds me.

Hello. Devil here, come to do a little advocating, if I may. Purely for the sake of polemic.

The senator goes on to ask “When did adhering to deeply held principles become “working against their own interests?” In an attempt to help the good senator, and perhaps yourselves, understand his opposition, and so to use his own vocabulary to foster that understanding, please allow me to elaborate: since society became so complex that self-sufficiency is a romantic and delusional myth. Yes, this wonderful and exciting country was founded and flourished upon those principles but now just living in a society as complex as our own is beyond one’s capacity to be truly self-sufficient. Case in point, can you tune your own vehicle? Change its oil? Some of you no doubt can and do, but you would be the amazing few and not the many. Since when, the senator asks. Since the days when the doctor stopped making house calls and his service was traded for a chicken, since litigation and technology itself drove up the cost of health care astronomically, since MRIs, myelograms, lumbar drains and brain scans are routine, since pharmaceuticals are priced internationally to a scale that puts this nation, THIS nations at the top of that scale because its been calculated by actuaries the most capable of all nations to pay the most, since the ambulance service, the primary care physician, the specialists, the hospital, all bill separately, consecutively or simultaneously through primary, secondary, tertiary insurers, all in accordance to their own schedules, and all duking it out as to who will not pay for what and how much, as well as billinig directly with threats included so that the patient receives through their mailbox, at the most vulnerable period of their lives, a veritable blizzard of number salads, all coded so that they know not what they’re expected to pay, nor what they’re paying for, months even years after the time of service. In short, since society itself has become so complex that the very notion of self-sufficiency is risible.

There. Pile on then, oh yea delightfully fierce pioneers.

bour3 on August 18, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Bob Corker is one of my state’s senators and he is useless.

He voted for TARP, while 25 of his colleagues in the Senate and 174 House members had the courage and conviction to vote against it in the face of chicken little threats by Warren Buffett and investment bankers, who were its real beneficiaries.

I will vote against him in 2014.

molonlabe28 on August 18, 2009 at 4:02 PM

You take the initial anger and frustration of our government taking a trillion dollars of our money and bailing out private businesses “too big to fail” with no input from the American people and practically in the middle of the night; add government takeover of banks, car manufacturers, and mortgage companies, and splash in the real kicker….government wanting to take over 2/3 of the economy via health care all the while claiming we only have days to pass all of this and you get EXTREME anger.

Everyone with any sense knows the crisis’ were manufactured and used as a path to socialism and even given the unique history of the American experience, act shocked that there was this level of anger and have the chutzpah to claim it is “manufactured”.

Now say again…how is racism even relavent to this argument? Because the head socialist happens to have the same amount of black relatives as white? Makes no sense.

These guys (our government) are lucky we are not taking the advice of our founding fathers when government goes where these deceivers have gone.

Goodeye_Closed on August 18, 2009 at 4:13 PM

The racism charge is truly a desperate, Hail Mary rhetorical pass.

Liberals always over-reach. The good people of Tennessee refuse to bow down any longer to bully tatics and crude labels.

TN Mom on August 18, 2009 at 4:28 PM

This bill has to be scrapped completely.The approach of the reformers is wrong from the beginning.They are attacking the insurance problems from the wrong direction.Instead of trying to re-invent the wheel,make small,incremental changes based on free market forces.If some improvement is seen,continue;if not,try something else.
The bill as it stands tries to remake the way health care is allotted(and no matter what Congress does,health care will be ALOTTED by some entity).When confronted with the forward-thinking concept of rationing,their response is “well,the insurance companies already ration it.”Which is a specious argument at best.
The problem at present is that many people can’t afford health insurance.Take out the waste and corruption,let the free market work,and prices will come down,negating the argument of rationing.
I know this is an over-simplification,but my point is that health care can be made available to all,without government controls,which by their very nature will limit coverage.

DDT on August 18, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Frankly, Americans are just sick and tired of being told that every damn thing is a huge national emergency and that the country will implode if some massive goverment takeover of this or that is not instituted yesterday. The democrats just went a bridge too far on this one.

You might say their Chicken Littles have come home to roost!

t.ferg on August 18, 2009 at 4:42 PM

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