Obama no Promise Keeper: WaPo
posted at 9:28 am on August 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Barack Obama continues to promise that his health-care reform won’t change anything for the 83% of people already satisfied with their current coverage. In every appearance, Barack Obama uses some form of this quote:“Under the reform we’re proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.” USA Today fact-checked that in a sidebar last week among other claims, but yesterday the Washington Post devoted an entire article on just this one promise — and concludes that Obama can’t keep that promise:
In the marketplace, called an exchange or gateway, employees could end up with more and better options, analysts say. Even a top Republican staffer to the Senate committee, who is not authorized to speak for the record, agrees with that assessment. But Democratic legislative aides said there is no assurance that any of the options offered in the exchange would be the same as employees’ current coverage.
Because coverage offered through an exchange would have to comply with new requirements, it could easily be different.
At a minimum, the exchanges would be open to small employers, but government officials would have the discretion to open the exchanges to larger employers. …
In a campaign to dispel alleged myths about health reform, the White House has posted a “Reality Check” on its Web site. “You can keep your own insurance,” it declares.
Obama’s promise is not just at odds with legislative proposals — it is also at odds with reality.
The CBO predicted that millions of people would get tossed out of their current, employer-based coverage, and that will happen for at least two reasons. On what the White House would consider a more positive note, current plans that do not meet the mandates required for coverage to be offered through the exchanges would be dropped either immediately or within a short period of time, and employers would have to choose a plan that did meet the mandates. That means that people who were satisfied with their coverage would lose it because the government was dissatisfied with the plan, although ObamaCare backers insist that would improve the coverage — without explaining how.
The second and more likely scenario is that employers will realize that paying the fine/tax for not providing health-care coverage for their employees is cheaper than paying for the coverage in the new system. When that threshold gets met, employers will dump people out of their existing plans in droves, paying the fine/tax and forcing their employees to buy plans from the exchanges. A mass exodus would cause the insurers to receive a big shock to their risk pools, and many will leave the market altogether — leaving people will few choices but the public plan and ObamaCare.
Nothing in ObamaCare guarantees that people satisfied with their current coverage will be able to keep it. In fact, all of the incentives in ObamaCare align in the opposite direction. Obama wants to overhaul the entire system, which means that the status quo will disappear across a wide swath of the US. The 85% of people who have coverage now will certainly get impacted heavily in such a radical makeover, and Obama is flat-out lying when he insists that his overhaul will mean a maintenance of the status quo.









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Are they surprised that he is a liar?
TXMomof3 on August 18, 2009 at 9:29 AM
“this just in…”
toenail on August 18, 2009 at 9:29 AM
And BHO promised his far-left supporters during the primary campaign that gov’t would take over health care. So which promise do we believe?
jgapinoy on August 18, 2009 at 9:30 AM
Broken promises left and right. It really is the Carter administration all over again. Amazing.
rollthedice on August 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM
…so as I was saying, I hope the hurricane Bill stays off our coast…it looks like a messy one.
My yard needs mowing, spent too much time playing tennis over the weekend…let me see, any other news around of interest?
right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Remember – there is a puppet master at work here.
The issue is not OZ – but the man (or men and women) behind the curtain.
jake-the-goose on August 18, 2009 at 9:32 AM
DO you suppose he actually….Read the bill?
ThatMan on August 18, 2009 at 9:32 AM
You’ll have all sorts of options, none of which you probably want or need and none of which you would pay for freely.
But because some absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrat takes money from mental health professionals, you’ll have full access to psychiatric counseling, psychological analysis, etc.
Democrats are scum. This “plan” is hideous on every level and the worst thing about it will be what’s hidden from public view and what some plant idiot (Sotomeyor) will “interpret” as being in there, if Congress passes it.
I hope Obama fails.
NoDonkey on August 18, 2009 at 9:33 AM
His lips are moving, aren’t they?
johnsteele on August 18, 2009 at 9:33 AM
And the people aren’t dumb enough to buy that line. So he’s basically stuck peddling a product that the vast majority of Americans don’t want. He really screwed himself on this one.
Doughboy on August 18, 2009 at 9:33 AM
I’m shocked, shocked I tell you!
search4truth on August 18, 2009 at 9:33 AM
We need to take BACK the government.
Time to RED DAWN this MF’er!
igglesphan on August 18, 2009 at 9:33 AM
There is no trust. Kill the bill!
elduende on August 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Every time I hear or read this quote, I think of that pizza commerical where the guy says, “If I want mushroom, I can have mushroom. If I want pepperoni, I can have pepperoni.”
Disturb the Universe on August 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Apparantly.
ladyingray on August 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Canadian Death Panel Story
Just talked with a co-worker who just got back from a vacation in the Dominican Republic. She met up with a low-40ish man from Canada whose mother when 55 was diagnosed with cancer in the liver and needed a transplant. The government denied her a transplant due to her “advanced” age.
My co-worker told this man of her story of having ovarian cancer. She is around 60 years old. Was diagnosed, the cancer was quickly removed and chemo quickly started. There are no signs of cancer since treatment ended roughly 2 years ago. The Canadian told my co-worker that she would have most likely been denied coverage in Canade.
Sure smells like a Death Panel to me.
WashJeff on August 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM
It is so simple to extrapolate the conclusion from the bill; For Barry to continue to assume we’re all a bunch of dummies, really irks me.
anniekc on August 18, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Like it or not, this bill will pass. We’re already seen the peak opposition to health care reform – a bunch of older white folks yelling because FNC told them to go out and do so. That’s still not enough to sink this reform bill.
We’re about to see the biggest government involvement in social programs since FDR.
And I couldn’t be happier. =]
welcome_ghosts on August 18, 2009 at 9:37 AM
I’d have to flag you for that remark if they hadn’t closed down the email…
ladyingray on August 18, 2009 at 9:38 AM
It’s almost as if Dear Leader’s campaign promises come with expiration dates. . .
rbj on August 18, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Canadian Death Panel Story
Just talked with a co-worker who just got back from a vacation in the Dominican Republic. She met up with a low-40ish man from Canada whose mother when 55 was diagnosed with cancer in the liver and needed a transplant. The government denied her a transplant due to her “advanced” age.
Wow..55 is advanced age??!! I suddenly feel like I need a walker.
Jeff from WI on August 18, 2009 at 9:39 AM
President Obfuscate is unable and unwilling to be clear and concise with the American people. But yet, he attacked the credit industry months ago because the font size on credit card agreements was too small.
sherry on August 18, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Doesn’t “you can keep your insurance” mean that there is no federal requirement that you must drop your current insurance? I think what the White House said is at least as accurate as what Palin said about the “death panels” being part of the bill.
Jimbo3 on August 18, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Thank you, Washington Post, for helping to elect this whackjob. Now the American people are having to stand up to him because their elected representatives have decided that it wouldn’t be prudent to actually do their job. Obama lies. He has been lying all his life and he is not going to stop now.
kingsjester on August 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM
A death panel by any other name would smell as rank.
Disturb the Universe on August 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
Vashta.Nerada on August 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM
ATTENTION Death Panel…..
It’s time to euthanize Obamacare!!!
PatriotRider on August 18, 2009 at 9:42 AM
ObamaDon’tCare
Josiah on August 18, 2009 at 9:42 AM
welcome_ghosts on August 18, 2009 at 9:37 AM
You actually have confidence in this corrupt, unqualified buffoon we have in the Oval Office. along with the corrupt incompetents in Congress, to put together a “plan” that will be one notch better than a complete disaster?
You are ignorant, foolish, deranged and delusional.
Rest assured, placebos don’t cure cancer, even though Dr. Obama tells you they will.
NoDonkey on August 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM
This is a reason the MM is dying so fast, they are just now pointing out BHO’s lies
chasnleo on August 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM
Reading anything doesn’t matter anymore in the government. They make retroactive legislation, intend on telling you how much you will be compensated, and contract law doesn’t matter anymore.
NickelAndDime on August 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM
You are happy with your house, but would like to update the bathroom. Which course of action do you take?
a) Leave it as is.
b) Obama-ize it, and tear down the whole house.
c) Remodel the bathroom only.
ICBM on August 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM
d) Obama doesn’t have the same aesthetic tastes that I do and would probably want to put in some type of faux marble tile. I told him I wanted stone, not tile!!!
welcome_ghosts on August 18, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Obama doesn’t have to keep his promises. We have the votes.
LibTired on August 18, 2009 at 9:47 AM
WOLVERINES!!!!
_______
screwing 85% of this country for a legacy….UGH
cmsinaz on August 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM
If you like your Senators, you get to keep your Senators…if you like your Representatives, you get to keep your Representatives…
Time to attempt ‘slot machine’ change….out with the old, in with the new.
tatersalad on August 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM
He’s a statist liberal–he’s to be judged on his intentions, not his actions.
ted c on August 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Come to think of it, that could be Obama’s tag line for his Health care plan…
‘Out with the old, in with the new’.
tatersalad on August 18, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Were his lips moving?
Ordinary1 on August 18, 2009 at 9:52 AM
I couldn’t agree with you more. I hope he forces this unpopular takeover on the nation because the explosion that will result will make him rue the day his daddy first laid eyes on his mother. Yay!
elduende on August 18, 2009 at 9:54 AM
WaPo wakes up?
Or maybe they’re sleepwalking and won’t remember that they wrote this.
misslizzi on August 18, 2009 at 9:54 AM
WAPO:a little too late to the party
cmsinaz on August 18, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Sure explains the youth vote.
misslizzi on August 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Looks like the bussed-in right-wing extremist mobs have taken over the CBO, USA Today and WaPo.
forest on August 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM
elduende on August 18, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Oooooh…That’s gonna leave a mark.
kingsjester on August 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM
I’ve gotten more honesty out of a teenager than this guy. Seems the only true skill he brought to the office was the unsurpassed ability to sell lies.
HoustonRight on August 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Paging liberal343…..paging liberal343…..clean-up in Aisle O.
Patrick S on August 18, 2009 at 9:56 AM
The people out there that are against health care reform didn’t even vote for him in the first place.
No explosions. Just a bunch of pissed off Medicare recipients that don’t like the fact that a black guy is in the White House.
welcome_ghosts on August 18, 2009 at 9:57 AM
this just in, water’s wet and women like to spend money…
sven10077 on August 18, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Lying liars who lie and the voters who love them.
Mojave Mark on August 18, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Obama lied, health care… you know the drill.
Daggett on August 18, 2009 at 9:58 AM
hey if you want to hang your head on his imploding polls meaning he is not losing the middle have at thee….
of course if he doesn’t want seniors we’ll take ‘em….and if he thinks what “makes our military mighty is not military might” and tries to cut the funding even more….we’ll take ‘em
a lot of minority soldiers voted for Jug Ears…..
how many votes you want to keep giving away?
sven10077 on August 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Then explain the the plunge in the polls for both Obama and Obamacare amongst moderates.
BPD on August 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM
the entire Obama Presidency and campaign is “at odds with reality” nice the WaPo noticed…now….
ginaswo on August 18, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Hey I agree with you. I mean they have a 78 seat supermajority in the House and a 60 seat filibuster proof majority in the senate they should have voted and signed off on this really popular socialist takeover of healthcare before August. I mean why did they not just vote on it and deny that fringe racists the opportunity to stage these sideshows.
They should ignore those racist polls and just do it. No explosions coming.
elduende on August 18, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Liars discovering a probable liar in their midst.
I wondered why my breakfast meat had little wings on it this morning.
Yoop on August 18, 2009 at 10:01 AM
The Won states over and over again that you can keep your doctor. Well, that’s great, but what if my doctor won’t keep me? It’s a two way street there……champ.
ted c on August 18, 2009 at 10:02 AM
No explosions. Just a bunch of pissed off Medicare recipients that don’t like the fact that a black guy is in the White House.
welcome_ghosts on August 18, 2009 at 9:57 AM
You know you have won the debate when your opponents can no longer argue on the facts, but instead attack your character (racism, sexism, etc).
tatersalad on August 18, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Obama: Suffering from chronic misrepresentation of fact.
ted c on August 18, 2009 at 10:03 AM
The thing that makes me the angriest about this whole thing is how ugly this debate is.
One side is lying, putting lipstick on a pig and the other side is demonized for calling it a pig.
I am so sick of being demonized when the f ing thing is a pig.
ORconservative on August 18, 2009 at 10:04 AM
The meaning of the Joker poster — Everybody knows the Joker lies.
tarpon on August 18, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Obama lied,nation sighed.
JiangxiDad on August 18, 2009 at 10:04 AM
FIFY
ted c on August 18, 2009 at 10:05 AM
WAPO:a little too late to the party
cmsinaz on August 18, 2009 at 9:54 AM
I agree. I won’t believe anyone in the MSM until I start seeing these people openly and honestly admitting their mistakes in not vetting this guy and running him through the same ringer they rang Sarah Palin through. Since that will never happen I will never believe anything they try to tell me.
milwife88 on August 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM
I’m a 53 y/o white guy and I’d have voted for Alan Keyes, J.C. Watts, or Micheal Steele in a heartbeat, so your argument doesn’t wash….
Vntnrse on August 18, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Do you see a ton of Republicans coming out against this bill? No? I wonder why?
If anything, it was the more moderate democrats that put a hold on voting for this last month. Public discourse roots out the problems and inconsistencies in the legislation. Everyone should support that.
Scaring people into thinking Obama is going to personally come to your house and give you a lethal injection is a far cry from discourse. It’s scare tactics. Old people are predisposed to such things, especially when there’s a black guy in the White House.
welcome_ghosts on August 18, 2009 at 10:07 AM
channel the force young Jedi…
Do not give in to the dark side but hone your skills, sharpen your quill and load your quiver. There are targets to your front and we beseech you to engage in the Glorious Cause. We are in need of those who can speak, write, march and gather intelligence. Pull on your boots, look yourself in the eye, and ask what you can do for your country.
ted c on August 18, 2009 at 10:07 AM
“I have a few black friends, but…”
welcome_ghosts on August 18, 2009 at 10:07 AM
I would vote for Condi Rice and WOULD’VE voted for GEN Colin Powell had he run against Clinton.
ted c on August 18, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Aren’t the new Trolls just brilliant. They sneak in during Open Registration to gloat about Dear Leader’s and their own intelligence. Unfortunately, Dear Leader’s plans are being destroyed by Average Americans and their intelligence is limited to ad hominem arguments. Epic Fail on both counts.
kingsjester on August 18, 2009 at 10:09 AM
The biggest lie is preventive care – even Ezekiel Emanuel believes most preventive medicine is hype.
http://speakmymindblog.com/2009/08/18/preventive-care-hype-or-help/
sherryande on August 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM
I’d love to continue this argument but unfortunately I have to get ready for work to support the socialists that refuse to…
Vntnrse on August 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Keep calling them everyone racists that’ll work. I encourage Obama to ignore the polls, they lie all Republicans support this take over. ROTFLMAO.
Hey, Why don’t you tell us what one of those inconsistencies in the legislation is and how that’s been fixed.
We don’t need to scare anyone, Obama is doing that with his obfuscations and outright lies.
elduende on August 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM
I wonder if the MSM is feeling the weight around it’s neck that is the Dear Leader?
Perhaps they’d doff it before they hit bottom?
The press is a great object lesson for the issues we are facing this very day. If you won’t do your job, MSM–someone else will. They’ll outpace you, outmaneuver you, outreport you and eventually–put you out of business. MSM is a thing of the past and is a dying breed.
ted c on August 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM
I don’t recall anyone making that specific assertion.
Shock the Monkey on August 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM
keep on dancin’….
having an unelected government body of bueracrats plugging data into actuarial tables is a death panel….
my racism or lack thereof has sweet f**k all to do with the attempted hijacking of healthcare from the people and the private sector sport…
mad bombing accusations of racism have worked wonders for Chairman Soetoro’s polling numbers….
“keep firing”
sven10077 on August 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Do you have any other cards in your deck besides the race one?
Disturb the Universe on August 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Same here. We’re fortunate to have jobs in this current economic climate.
welcome_ghosts on August 18, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Don’t feed the trolls. They can’t make their point based on the facts, so they just call you a racist instead. That will win a debate for sure!
teffertoes on August 18, 2009 at 10:12 AM
answer the question about all those inconsistencies in the legislation that have been changed. troll.
elduende on August 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM
So you attended the Barack Obama school of strawmen, I see?
Old folks have seen a lot of legislation in their time that read one way, but wound up being interpreted, in another way by creative minds like that dingbat Sotomeyor.
They gave Obama the benefit of the doubt on the “stimulus” package, only to find out this idiot mortgaged our future for magic beans and billions of dollars to Democrat donors.
And you really expect anyone with a brain in their head to trust this lying failed lawyer with running health care?
You ask too much.
NoDonkey on August 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Reality Check Check: You can keep your own insurance until it is forced out of business…
Blake on August 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Au contraire…Obama is keeping his promises.
Keeping them in a sealed box, under guard, underground in one of Biden’s special hideaways, never to see the light of day, ever.
coldwarrior on August 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Game over, man!
drjohn on August 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Run. Run away little troll. Don’t answer the question. Just like your wretched president. This is why his poll numbers are where they are.
Hey look on the bright side at least Obama can now claim he inherited Bush’s poll numbers too.
elduende on August 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Nice case of projection you’ve got there, bigot.
DrSteve on August 18, 2009 at 10:21 AM
you were not one of the “Fathers & Husbands” who traveled to Washington to march as a “Promise Keeper” were you Ed? because if you were I would think it unscrupulous to say the President is not a “Promise Keeper”… it insinuates that he has been an unfaithful husband and bad father…
why not just call him a liar? that would be a closer description of the truth instead on this insinuation…
you wouldn’t be playing on words would you? you notice that the WAPO did not put those words sooo close together.
Kaptain Amerika on August 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Hey, Rahm, shouldn’t you be schooling Obama about colonoscopies and the early detection of prostate cancer or something??! And read up on your history….FDR’s social programs did not work. I’ll reprhase that so you understand: Let me be clear, they DID NOT work.
atlgal on August 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM
One of the more glaring of the many ways the filthy liar has botched selling the idea of government takeover of healthcare is this very point. He keeps making this claim which is clearly a flat out lie. Then he goes on to talk about all the other wonderful things that can be done once the insurance industry is killed off. How is even the most loyal supporter supposed to believe anything he says when he lies about something so transparently false? Many will still support seizing the healthcare industry but nobody is buying the falsehood put out by the filthy liar in the White House and his minions in Congress.
highhopes on August 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM
Actually saying that Obama is not a promise keeper is apt (and yes I am aware of the organization by that name). The filthy liar in the White House has repeatedly made the promise that everybody can keep the plan they’ve got if they are happy with it. That promise clearly cannot be kept.
highhopes on August 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM
You keep trying to push threads into a racial argument.
It isn’t working for you.
Your kind is not needed here. Piss off!
Yoop on August 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM
It’s amazing how liberals always assume that the only reason anyone would ever disagree with them, is because they were told to, bought off, etc.
Considering the absolute disaster that all of Roosevelt’s programs have been, only someone who truely hates his neighbors, would be glad about extending them.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM
The other lie is that care will not be rationed. We can not afford what we have. Insurance rates, health care rates are through the roof to pay for the programs we currently have that we can not afford.
I am so sick of lefties telling us we NEED this. We need to figure out how to pay for what we have first. How about figuring out C4C’s first. If only 3% of those deals have been closed, how in the hell are you going to pay for people to get their end of life counseling? They’ll die first which is probably the point.
ORconservative on August 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM
No, they’re just following the polls, like the prostitutes they are.
TXUS on August 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM
At odds with reality!!!!!!
Reminds me of the MSM and their adoring,fawning coverage of a failed community organizer with no real accomplishments being touted as the world’s savior.
Welcome to the show WaPo,you and the rest of the MSM that has pretty much been relegated to the role of Obama campaign workers, have been at odds with reality for some time.
Now maybe they can address Obama’s dismal record concerning his broken promises of:
THE PRESIDENT: Well, we did give them a deadline and sort of we missed that deadline, but that’s okay.
We are — here is my promise — and by the way, I’ve been keeping my promises since I got into office.
Broughton High School in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Combine this with the fact that not to long ago, these were evidence of civil rights violations and war crimes.
The liberals yelled and screamed about such injustice and how it was damaging us around the world when Bush used these methods.
Now that Obama is doing the same thing…….not so much.
No body counts on TV day after day.
No anti-war rallies,no yelling and screaming about torture and trampling the Constitution from the “smart ones” even though their Messiah uses Bush’s same policies.
Yes, good start WaPo, but you and your liberal activists friends have a long way to go in reporting the truth and being the “watch dog” of our government instead of “lap dog”.
Baxter Greene on August 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM
d) Obama would skip the drywall and leave the window half finished, but charge you for marble.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM
One more thing, the “mobs” aren’t reading Alinsky. They could care less about Alinsky, they are just plain pissed off.
Obama doesn’t get free will, freedom. These “mobs” are expressing their anger.
ORconservative on August 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Just remember that losing your job cuts off your insurance. He got you on that. Get a new job and they won’t give you insurance from your previous employer.
seven on August 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM
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