How is that Post Office comparison working now?
posted at 11:38 am on August 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Last week, Barack Obama tried to reassure people that the government could compete with the free market in health care by using the post office as an example:
Now, the only thing that I have said is that having a public option in that menu would provide competition for insurance companies to keep them honest.
Now, I recognize, though, you make a legitimate — you raise a legitimate concern. People say, well, how can a private company compete against the government? And my answer is that if the private insurance companies are providing a good bargain, and if the public option has to be self-sustaining — meaning taxpayers aren’t subsidizing it, but it has to run on charging premiums and providing good services and a good network of doctors, just like any other private insurer would do — then I think private insurers should be able to compete. They do it all the time. (Applause.)
I mean, if you think about — if you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? No, they are. It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems. (Laughter.)
If Obama hoped to assuage fears by comparing ObamaCare to the US Post Office, he may have been more right than he realized. In fact, the US Post Office is careening towards bankruptcy at an increasing clip, and may collapse soon if it doesn’t get significantly changed. The factors driving the bankruptcy are practically a prediction of what will happen to ObamaCare after its implementation:
The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) recently announced that the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) is at risk of financial insolvency.
The post office made GAO’s list of government operations that are considered costly and “high risk.” GAO submits its High Risk Series report to Congress every two years…. The last year USPS reported income from its operations was in 2006. Beginning in 2007, its fortunes soured and it began to report significant losses: $5 billion at the end of fiscal year (FY) 2007 and $3 billion in FY 2008, according to its annual financial report. On June 30, 2009, the third quarter of its fiscal year, the USPS reported a staggering $4.7 billion net loss.
What factors did the GAO highlight?
The culprit is a combination of economic realities, increased reliance on e-mail, and the USPS’s inability to address problems effectively and efficiently, according to the GAO.
“USPS urgently needs to restructure to address its current and long-term financial viability. USPS has not been able to cut costs fast enough to offset the accelerated decline in mail volume and revenue—particularly costs related to its workforce, retail and processing networks, and delivery services,” read the GAO’s High Risk Series release.
The USPS responded by blaming the nature of bureaucracies:
“We are subject to Congressional oversight, regulation by other government agencies, and also oversight by various other organizations and the public,” USPS said in their annual report. “If we cannot successfully address their various, and sometimes competing, concerns, we may be subject to greater regulation, which could increase our costs or otherwise place additional burdens on our operations,” USPS warned regulators in the annual report.
Sound familiar? The government has created a regulatory system for the USPS that breeds inefficiency, stagnation, and waste. The competing interests of Congress and multiple levels of regulatory oversight creates an often-contradictory burden that increases cost and damages consumer satisfaction. Top that off with a pension/health fund that Congress mandated in 2006, and you have a recipe for disaster. It’s a recipe that Barack Obama hails as his model for ObamaCare, and in that, he’s more right than he knows.
So what will Congress do to address the USPS crisis? Privatization has gathered momentum, as Congress may want to shed itself of the entire mess. If so, we will have the unusual juxtaposition of the federal government washing its hands of a service it has run since the founding of the republic, while simultaneously nationalizing what has always been a private enterprise: health care. It sounds as if this administration really hasn’t paid any attention at all to the lessons of the US Postal Service, and perhaps that’s why Obama issued that tone-deaf metaphor last week.










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USPS uses a lot of FEDEX shipping. Lots. Non Union Fedex.
seven on August 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM
great post on this —
iam7545 on August 18, 2009 at 12:20 PM
As a recently retired letter carrier, I’m baffled as to why they don’t switch to a 5-day week. It must be the unions preventing that logical solution.
jgapinoy on August 18, 2009 at 12:21 PM
oops http://iam7545.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/has-president-zero-gone-postal/
iam7545 on August 18, 2009 at 12:21 PM
No pun intended….
pseudonominus on August 18, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Can’t…stop…laughing…
Wyznowski on August 18, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Didn’t take long for Mr. Wonderful to showcase his utter lack of experience and ability to tackle anything beyond tying his own shoes.
Look carefully, I’m sure he wears velcro.
uknowmorethanme on August 18, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Who would have thought that Scott McClellan would look competent in comparison with anyone.
Though in fairness to “toad boy” Gibbs, It doesn’t appear as if he is given much other than the talking points. The press by their nature are going to want more and it is pretty clear that Gibbs isn’t able to accomodate them. I’m betting the “more time with family” resignation announcement will come before the end of the year.
highhopes on August 18, 2009 at 12:22 PM
And in the process, Barry has insulted yet another group of govt employees.
At this rate, by the time 2012 comes around, there won’t be any group that Barry hasn’t insulted at least once.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM
LMAO. Once again, he’s just a glorious bullshitter, and when you are always bullshitting, sometimes you get tangled up by your glibness. O’Bozo thought it would be funny to make a Post Office joke, and he accidentally explained why there are people screaming at their legislators.
I think he’s stupid.
Jaibones on August 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Oh! That’s why his feet keep getting stuck to the drapes. Call a doctor and cut those babies off. They’re nothing but trouble.
progressoverpeace on August 18, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Isn’t it always?
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2009 at 12:24 PM
The solution is simple. If you send mail via means which do not pass through the Post Office, such as via UPS or Fedex, then an amount equal to the amount such mail would have cost at the Post Office must be remitted to the Post Office.
After all, if it works for medical care, why not for mail?
unclesmrgol on August 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Associated with that is the amount of infrastructure. Even with the announced closings, the USPS probably has too many post offices out there when it comes to overhead.
highhopes on August 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM
After 9/11, the new regs on the airlines prevented us from moving most mail on them. You see, the Congress prevents us from owning our own airplanes. So we don’t compete with the other guys (who lobby DC with tens of millions of $ per year, while we’re prevented by law from doing the same). Rant aside, we began making the cooperative agreements with UPS and FedEx at that point. We get to move mail on their planes, and the little packages, that they lose money on, they give to us and we deliver since we are hitting every address every day.
Oh, and Jeff, you’re not subsidizing us. We’ve started moving to fully self funded in 72, and haven’t received tax dollars since 79. Just sayin’.
bikermailman on August 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Okay, lunchtime is over, back to work.
bikermailman on August 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM
One could call it “A bullshitt too far”.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM
When one plays to one’s strength, it usually comes off better.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2009 at 12:27 PM
I thought the analogy might be a good one but the bufis trying to explain it just is not a competent thinker. In this instance privet enterprise is on the march in forcing government to be more efficient.
david kumbera on August 18, 2009 at 12:27 PM
“I’m not going to have to worry about my mortgage, or putting gas in my car.”
Akzed on August 18, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Let me provide another example. I live on a tight cul-de-sac. When a neighbor was having their roof replaced, and some of their vehicles made navigating the street even tighter, we didn’t get mail. I called to complain, and the local postmaster informed me that they weren’t ‘obligated’ to deliver our mail. Now, apply that attitude to health care.
Vashta.Nerada on August 18, 2009 at 12:28 PM
That’s exactly it. the NALC is dead set against it, as well as the amendment that Sen Coburn put in. It says that during contract rounds, if we have to go to an arbiter, they may take our current financial situation into account regarding raises and COLAs. They’re over the top on that one. I’m really considering getting out of the union and saving my $.
bikermailman on August 18, 2009 at 12:28 PM
you forgot to add “champ” to the title line
ted c on August 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM
I read the other day that Netflix is the Post Office’s number one customer. Once the “download your movie over the internet” thing takes off and they stop shipping DVDs, the Post Office will be in a world of hurt.
Of course the Post Office will get a government bail out and the price of a stamp will top the price of a gallon of gas.
Sigh.
Mangy Scot on August 18, 2009 at 12:31 PM
I haven’t gotten mail on Saturday all summer. No announcement, no nothing.
Knucklehead on August 18, 2009 at 12:32 PM
An aside: A Representative (don’t remember who) had proposed a bill that USPS carriers be charged with conducting the census since they are most knowledgeable about who is on their route. This solution would take the task away from Rahm Emanuel, who has seized on it, cut ACORN out of the equation, eliminate the costs of hiring census takers, provide a more accurate count, and use federal personnel more effectively.
Does anyone know whatever happened to this bill or who proposed it?
onlineanalyst on August 18, 2009 at 12:32 PM
And while the Congress meddles in things the Constitution doesn’t allow (and, by the Tenth Amendment, things they are not allowed to meddle in) they abrogate their enumerated duties (Article I Section 8 – “To establish post offices and post roads”.
FIRE THEM ALL.
HBowmanMD on August 18, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Fun idea, but probably fraught with political conflict of interest stuff.
but it’s fun.
AnninCA on August 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Really?…Who keeps paying off the billions the USPO is in debt for?
Jeff from WI on August 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM
I have heard the same thing, and bikermailman seems to confirm.
BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Funny, because I complained one time when the mailman didn’t pick up my out going mail. The supervisor told that they weren’t obligated to pick up mail, that that was just a “courtesy”.
So if they aren’t obligated to pick up or deliver mail, what exactly are they supposed to do?
rbj on August 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM
That’s weird. I’d contact your post office.
jgapinoy on August 18, 2009 at 12:35 PM
No one.
jgapinoy on August 18, 2009 at 12:36 PM
That’s actually true. I have a very *ahem* feisty friend who locked horns with the postal service over her delivery. She wrote one too many letters, and they finally told her that she was under warning that they would stop her delivery.
She was embarassed, but it was a good lesson, too.
They are not obligated to put up with unreasonable people, including those with biting dogs.
AnninCA on August 18, 2009 at 12:36 PM
I think obama is a doofus, but I think the usps guy that responded about him being commander in chief, etc, is ridiculous… working for the post office is by no means anywhere close to being in the military.
TTheoLogan on August 18, 2009 at 12:37 PM
That I knew. Do you agree with my mailcarrier friend that the problem right now is that the bottom has dropped out of direct mail advertising?
AnninCA on August 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM
USPS uses it’s subsidized monopoly in letters to help support it’s package delivery operations.
MarkTheGreat on August 18, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Not just a liar, but a fool as well.
Mr. Grump on August 18, 2009 at 12:40 PM
I spent $5 around New Year’s sending my daughter’s gymnastics registration priority mail. They didn’t receive it time for class at the end of January.
I got a call from the gymnastastics school that they finally received it, in June!
Way to go, Obama.
Laura in Maryland on August 18, 2009 at 12:40 PM
The USPS…the only entity in the world who thinks that the solution to decreasing market share is to increase the price of your service.
James on August 18, 2009 at 12:42 PM
progressoverpeace on August 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM
POP – you answer your own point. The Government does not build nor maintain Post Roads, it hires a contractor. The Government can hire a Contractor to establish and maintain the service.
barnone on August 18, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Yet, you want the same type of system to run your healthcare.
Vashta.Nerada on August 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Again, my DMV runs like a clock. Ditto for the jury court systems.
We now have a call-in system. No more waiting for hours all week reading or knitting. You just call in to see if you’re needed. 7 days, no call-in? You’re done. You have to go in 1 day, fill out the paperwork, etc.
The DMV implemented an appointment system that works. No more standing in line. Those are the ones who can’t get their acts together to make an appointment.
My post office is far more efficient than my Fed Ex, which regularly delivers to the wrong address. I gave up on them.
So, it’s a lot to do with local management.
AnninCA on August 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Also note -
As Neal Boortz pointed out this morning, despite Barry’s claims that FedEx and UPS show that private and public entities can exist side by side, the post office has a monopoly on first class mail. They may stop Saturday delivery, but by law no private entity can step in and fill the gap. Like nationalized health care, we’ll have to live (or die) with whatever decision they make.
Buy Danish on August 18, 2009 at 12:45 PM
I wouldn’t care if hypochondriacs are frustrated, which is analogous.
AnninCA on August 18, 2009 at 12:45 PM
They just write it off (Kramer).
WashJeff on August 18, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Personally, I want to kiss President Obama full on the lips for his insightful use of the Post Office analogy last week. I’ve been cheerfully posting injecting it into my lib friends’ discussions about health care “reform.” It leaves them speechless. As long as you’re respectful and unemotional (ie: “I found President Obama’s analogy to the Post Office to be very accurate”) there’s nothing they can say.
Y-not on August 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Whoops cited the wrond comment.
They just write it off (Kramer).
WashJeff on August 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM
And who makes that determination, again?
Vashta.Nerada on August 18, 2009 at 12:50 PM
The DMV implemented an appointment system that works. No more standing in line. Those are the ones who can’t get their acts together to make an appointment.
AnninCA on August 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM
That’s funny, because out here in L.A. county the appointment system doesn’t work at all. Mr. Y-not and I still waited in line for an hour to renew our licenses. People without appointments seemed to be moving through the line faster.
Y-not on August 18, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Ah, so now writing lettters is akin to biting dogs. I guess in the same way that now protestors are unAmerican.
rbj on August 18, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Prostitutes. I don’t think he has hit on prostitues yet.
Oh, wait. Maybe that didn’t come out right.
Yoop on August 18, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Really?
American Express is paying customers $300 to close their accounts, thus reducing their market share.
They have also notified me that they are increasing my APR.
David2.0 on August 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM
I say, let’s hire the illegals to deliver mail. We’re paying for them anyhow. Pay them minimum wage. Let each have his own mailbox to live in.
Jeff from WI on August 18, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Of course, the federal government could privatize, or otherwise outsource, the post office and its operations. My point was that the federal government is only allowed in the post office business because the Constitution specifically instructed it to go there. Congress has no such power to just open up any company because it decides that it wants to – as The Precedent’s silly argument rests on.
progressoverpeace on August 18, 2009 at 12:55 PM
How much has health care insurance gone up in ten years? Obumbler said it was an astronomical 30% in ten years.
How much as the first rate postage gone up in ten years
32-44 cents a 38% increase. @7% more increase than health care.
What does that tell you?
jukin on August 18, 2009 at 12:56 PM
The appointment idea is a good one, but I’m wondering how much time you spend at the DMV to know that it runs like clockwork.
BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Oh the private insurance industry is SOLVENT and the USPS is going bankrupt even with the greater price increases.
jukin on August 18, 2009 at 12:57 PM
I think the Postal Service is good for what it does…however naive to think you don’t “lobby”, unions lobby.
5 days makes sense to me.
right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Different type of business. Credit card companies and banks were lending money to everyone under the sun. Now they’re scaling back and only accepting solid customers (broad stroke there but generally accurate).
The post office has no interest in limiting its customer base.
BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Me too.
I just don’t want the same principle applied to my health care.
BadgerHawk on August 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Same thing happens to me on Mondays. In my case, I found out it was because of the number of carriers that were on vacation over the Summer they had to change routes around and they didn’t get to everybody every day.
highhopes on August 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM
U.S. Postal Service does not pay taxes…people keep forgetting this little gem.
right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Didn’t see it mentioned here ED, but the Post office just the other day threatened to dump all it’s HEALTH BENEFITS pension obligations onto the US taxpayer.
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/index.php?serendipityaction=search&serendipitysearchTerm=pensions&serendipitysearchButton=%3E
http://media.washingtontimes.com/media/docs/2009/Aug/06/PotterTestimony.pdf
JiangxiDad on August 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Just don’t get sick on Sat. or Sun. and you will be fine…also not after 5 pm, and on about 8 major holidays…
right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM
If you throw enough money at it, every thing runs like clockwork…the key word missing is “efficient”.
right2bright on August 18, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Obama “Goes Postal” on Health Care Plan; Appoints “Strong-Willed” Former Mail Worker to Head Health Services Panel http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/08/obama-goes-postal-on-health-care-plan.html
Mervis Winter on August 18, 2009 at 1:04 PM
With all the crapola mail, just deliver it once a week like garbage collection.
Jeff from WI on August 18, 2009 at 1:05 PM
I think she lives there 50% of the time, the other 50% at her local Kaiser office.
Knucklehead on August 18, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Time to tax email.
29Victor on August 18, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Ha, funny! Pucker up…because, unless he has a TOTUS implant, I’m sure President Community Organizer will be accidentally offering more insightful information between now and 1-20-13.
Plus, if Emanuel & Axelrod ever allow Joe “Just Sayin” Biden to take the tape off of his mouth…he will surely provide you with lots of great reasons to smootch! Ew.
redwhiteblue on August 18, 2009 at 1:10 PM
After Obama made the post office comment Rham was overheard exclaiming, “Newman!”
wdamickii on August 18, 2009 at 1:13 PM
It’s Bush’s fault. I’m not sure how yet, but I’m certain someone will let us know soon.
29Victor on August 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM
reality is that if the post office was a non-gov corp we wpuld probably be paying ten cents a letter
rjoco1 on August 18, 2009 at 1:20 PM
“They are not obligated to put up with unreasonable people.” Apply that to universal health care. Strip the medical profession of the Hippocratic oath and let’s see how many “unreasonable” people don’t get care.
Just hope and pray you’re not too “unreasonable”, old, or sick. Pray you’re not the wrong religion, race, socioeconomic status. Don’t think it could happen here? Read up on eugenics philosophy and look at who our president surrounds himself with.
The “unreasonable” go first. After that, anyone be made to “sacrifice” so we can “bend the curve”.
Grace_is_sufficient on August 18, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Different type of business. Credit card companies and banks
I just knew I was going to corrected on this! LOL!
Of course, you make a very good argument, Badger.
It is nice to know that AMEX considers me a solid customer though. :o)
David2.0 on August 18, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Let’s see, you live in the most dysfunctional state in the union, but they’ve got all this stuff figured out, lol.
Yeah, I’m buying that. Any chance you’ve got a bridge for sale too?
And expecting proper delivery of mail that someone is paying for is now considered unreasonable.
Yeah, let’s turn health care over to the government, lol. What a brilliant idea.
xblade on August 18, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Sounds like the USPS just needs to lay off about 50% of its workforce and deal with the reality that people don’t send as much snail mail anymore. I’m thinking that the FedEx and UPS business is where all the money is these days, sending larger products through the mail, and delivering things ordered on the same Internet that is killing the USPS.
Just like with health care, the government should only provide the bare necessity that is needed, no more, no less.
Seixon on August 18, 2009 at 1:34 PM
She wrote one too many letters, and they finally told her that she was under warning that they would stop her delivery.
She was embarassed, but it was a good lesson, too.
They are not obligated to put up with unreasonable people, including those with biting dogs.
AnninCA on August 18, 2009
But the postage was paid for by the sender. They have no right to expect service in exchange for payment?
SKYFOX on August 18, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Sorry xblade. Your post was getting in while I was typing mine.
SKYFOX on August 18, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Technically true. But you have a legally enforced monopoly which is of considerable value and which imposes costs on consumers/taxpayers.
DrSteve on August 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM
I read the other day that the PO has a $5 BILLION payment due in September on retiree health care. The Postmaster General has already stated “We don’t have the money”.
Just another example of government efficiency.
GarandFan on August 18, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Way to go …champ. Nice analogy.
ted c on August 18, 2009 at 2:48 PM
check out Contessa Brewers Pelosi imitation as she shamelessly supports Obamas analogy –
http://iam7545.wordpress.com/ http://iam7545.wordpress.com/
iam7545 on August 18, 2009 at 3:09 PM
No problem. Maybe if enough people inject logic into the conversation, she’ll eventually get a clue. I won’t hold my breath though.
xblade on August 18, 2009 at 3:28 PM
The answer is Jason Chaffetz from Utah. I think the idea is pure genius. Using an existing system that is already in place.
Therefore, it will never happen.
TechieNotTrekkie on August 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM
What I want to know what AnninCA has to say about this, I responded to one of her usual illogical comments in a thread yesterday and I specifically mentioned the USPS as just one example of why the government shouldn’t be involved in providing any sort of services to the citizens of the US.
As I’ve said to AnninCA several times before; anyone that believes the US government can provide any type of service better, more cost effective and efficient than the private sector is:
A moron
A liar
Blinded by their socialist ideology
Blinded by their allegiance to “THE ONE”
or all of the above, and in AnninCA’s case I suspect it is all of the above!
Liberty or Death on August 18, 2009 at 3:30 PM
I mean … umm … what’s the best way to say it …
That is too funny.
j_galt on August 18, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Ann, you may have just hit on one of the best things to come out of this economic downturn… a reduction in junk mail.
If it weren’t for junk mail, I’d have no mail at all. Gloom, despair, and agony on me.
Droopy on August 18, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Geez,
Technology has killed the USPS bottom line. Once upon a time businesses only mailed catalogs, then along came this thing called a website (online catalog). Ask yourself what is cheaper bulk mailing millions of catalogs monthly/quarterly or maintaining a website? That simple equation is a huge loss of revenue for the USPS. Secondly, email has pretty much killed the hand written letter, another huge source of revenue. Also, factor in electronic bill paying and electronic bills they are hurting. As several people have pointed out the USPS receives no government money to run, if you take into account they have lost multiple sources of revenue due to technology. Along with losing the revenue streams they are required to maintain the same level of service.
The black helicopter crowd needs to quit making stuff up. Bet these are the same people complaining about having the old corner mailbox removed. Technology has killed the bottom line for the USPS. Even going to five days a week for mail delivery will not stop the bleeding.
jero_jones on August 18, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Privatizing the USPS would be dumber than the idea to Privatize Social Security. Couple of facts about the USPS, they have one of the largest computer networks in the world, it cost to maintain that. All the rural towns in America (the real America) is a huge drain on resources delivering mail to such far flung communities. Along with delivering mail to very APO/FPO box they have a huge footprint to cover and due to the advances in the internet they have far less revenue to perform that job. Just think if they closed 75% of the Post Offices in the back water beat towns, wonder who would be the first to complain? So for in rational person to say “The government has created a regulatory system for the USPS that breeds inefficiency, stagnation, and waste.” is just ignorant of the facts or has an agenda.
jero_jones on August 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM
I worked for the postal service for 28 years. I witnessed a never ending supply of teams that would show up and spends days , weeks or even months watching us work. They were all from out of town, so management was paying to feed them and put them up in motels. I never saw one single productive change made via their recommendations. They have so many supervisors that it is not funny. My office had about 60 city routes and maybe 20 rural routes. They had about 5 supervisors, but that wasn’t enough. They usually had 2 or 3 carriers or clerks acting as supervisors, too, even when we were very short of help and they had multiple routes with no carriers every day. Unbelievably, middle and upper management was much more bloated than even this. They offered me an early out with no monetary incentive and I took it. If they offered an incentive (they are allowed to offer up to $25,000) they could shed tens of thousands of people and cut their costs almost immediately. My postmaster told me they would make up that $25K in just a few months if they hired a new worker, but of course, they just need to get rid of people at this point. They are paying people (Mainly clerks and mail handlers)to come in and basically sit around most of the day and do nothing rather than give them some money to go. Retirees are paid by the Office of Personnel Management, not by them.
darwin-t on August 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
I just saw a comment about automation. That may very well be their downfall. They spent millions and millions of dollars to automate letter mail sorting. This drastically changed the carriers’ job and also drastically harmed service. They could have made small changes and eliminated all of this, but they refused to do so. They operate on percentages of DPS to the street and no amount of inefficiency and loss of service mattered one whit. I routinely pulled out a couple hundred letters per day that were missorted, addressed to people that moved, etc. This not only delayed all of that mail a day, but when replacement carriers were on the route, a lot of it got delivered anyway.
Now they are pushing automated flat sorting and that may very well be the end of the line for the USPS.
I pray that these people never get in charge of my health care.
darwin-t on August 18, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Duh! Everything the government touches breeds inefficiency, stagnation and waste.
disa on August 18, 2009 at 5:46 PM
They are supposed to pick up outgoing mail “as delivery is made”. If you don’t get mail that day, they don’t want the carrier to pick any up, that’s “wasting time”.
darwin-t on August 18, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Yeah, a Fedex van would back up to the dock about 10 AM with Express Mail that had to be delivered by noon. And virtually all carriers were already on the street.
The German company – I can’t remember the name right now – would accept packages from people and then just mail them. We also delivered a lot of packages that were “too expensive” for the private carriers – they would bring them in the door in the evening and we’d deliver them the next day. I always wondered why the USPS signed contracts to help their competitors to cut their costs. Because it’s was the govenment and they were stupid, would be my guess.
darwin-t on August 18, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Sorry Dave your APR went up because those like me. I pay my bill off every month so that I don’t accrue interest charges. I have been an AE member since 1981. The only money they make off me is the yearly membership charge.
chemman on August 18, 2009 at 6:28 PM
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