Quotes of the day
posted at 9:30 pm on August 16, 2009 by Allahpundit
“Put a bill out there, make them filibuster it. Make them be what they are — the party of no. Look, we spend — the truth of the matter is, we spend about $8,000 per person in the United States on health care. The second — the country that seconds the second most is Switzerland, they spend $4,000. That means you have got $4,000 per person more that we spend on health care, that is $1.2 trillion, 4,000 times 300 million. And you know what? Run on it. A lot of people — and we’re not producing any kind of results that double that money provides. Let them kill it. Let them kill it with the interest group money, then run against them. That’s what we ought to do.”
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“Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), who led the crafting of the bill the House GOP put forth as a rival to the president’s health care proposal, told POLITICO that ‘the momentum is just now becoming visible.’…
‘A win for us is anything that improves the current situation without damaging the good things about our system,’ said Price, adding that any bill that does not include a public option, employer mandates and the rationing of care could be looked at as something of a success for his party.”
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“I will never vote for a bill to kill old people, period.”
Blowback
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I agree with Carville. Let them kill it.
jimmy2shoes on August 16, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Hehehe
Better get Bill Clinton out there to make the Baracky Plan look good.
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Assuming you could retain the initiative.
Call.
Horatius on August 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM
I don’t see how the significant Republican minorities could kill this, ah… but maybe we are talking Dean-speak…
“Ya know, there will be primaries for un-loyal democrats”
*paraphrasing
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Hmmm- Swiss population- 7 million—US population—well you do the math—
Ladywolfnl on August 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Hmmm maybe the small tiny little states could take care of their own insurance… hmmm…
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM
They still have not addressed the core causes of the extreme high costs of healthcare in this country.
They have not addressed the problem with lobbyists having more to say what’s in these bills than the people or even the lawmakers themselves have.
They have not discussed tort reform, and blowbama sidesteps the question every time as does every other politician.
When they get HONEST, then maybe we’ll listen. Until then they can expect nothing but problems from us.
Spiritk9 on August 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Wait, I thought Oh!Blama had the support of all the “interest groups”? We just got “The Mob”. hehe
jbtripp on August 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Alas, basic mathematics isn’t one of Carville’s strong suits…
elgeneralisimo on August 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Surrender? hell no!…remember, BO just said he was going to fall on his sword to get socialized medicine passed…they are just going to redefine all the (now bad) words and bring all the same socialist crap right back to the table…sadly, some people are going to buy it this time.
AUINSC on August 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM
This morning on Fox, Charles Krauthammer showed again he is a class act by acknowledging he was wrong in criticizing the protesters.
pearson on August 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM
That changes within a sentence, with Baracky.
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM
I love Price’s comment.
rob verdi on August 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Someone needs to lock this Price character in the closet until this is all over. The only success would be for this bill to be killed. If they want to try to reform some sections, then they can handle those issues one at a time, but this massive, crappy bill must go. If it passes, in any form, it is a major loss for America.
progressoverpeace on August 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM
If any healthcare bill does Not include tort reform, then it’s a flawed bill and should be rejected.
There has to be tort reform and insurance reform in order to make healthcare affordable.
There’s nothing wrong with our healthcare in this country. Or else why would foreign leaders come here for help.
There has not been any talk about tort reform. By Lawyers who make the majority of congress.
Kini on August 16, 2009 at 9:39 PM
“pearson on August 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM”
score a point for the doctor — now let’s see him press on with standing firm against any co-op false compromise …
Buckaroo on August 16, 2009 at 9:40 PM
If everything goes through the “exchange” and it’s mandatory you may as well call Blue Cross a public option. They’re just changing the language. It’s still the same bill.
Ronnie on August 16, 2009 at 9:40 PM
I don’t want to break my back for Barack , Have payed my way since 12 years old – now 56 yrs – Don’t Tread On Me ..
wheels on August 16, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Someone needs to ask Carville where all the medical advances come from and what drives them. It isn’t found in any of the socialized systems, that’s for sure. So what is left? …
This is the problem with staticists – they just don’t understand anything. Their simple minds can’t comprehend the dynamic world that we live in.
progressoverpeace on August 16, 2009 at 9:41 PM
We have to do something. We need a solution. Something has to be done. Every agrees that we need a solutiion. The system is broken.
V15J on August 16, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Palin, you magnificent..uh uh Alaskan!
d1carter on August 16, 2009 at 9:43 PM
This is simple. The Democrats want a bill that fundamentally enslaves the public, makes government omnipotent and gives people essentially no choice in their medical decisions. The current bills are insidious and represent the anthesis of what this country stands for. They are also the most frightening socialist manifestos written in the last 60 years. We must be very careful before accepting any of their compromises because this legislation is laden with land mines that must be identified and eliminated. The left must be fought with every fiber of our existence lest we become compliant wards of the state and this great Republic disappears..
rplat on August 16, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Let’s see, the Blue Dogs got the bill hung up until the August recess. So the fault is those “evil” Republicans.
You toking with Barry at night Carville?
GarandFan on August 16, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Carville thinks that using a condom when doing his sister is “health care”, something his mom and dad/uncle didn’t do.
Spiritk9 on August 16, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Note for carville: It ain’t the republicans who are stopping this thing. It’s the democrats who pretend to be independent and the conservative democrats. It ain’t the republicans showing up at democrat town hall photo ops and being disruptive. It’s the ’60′s era boomers who just woke up to the fact that they’re gonna loose health care. They know how to demonstrate, they are inclined to do so, and they are not afraid to be disruptive. They know you are stealing their free lunch, and they don’t like it.
Skandia Recluse on August 16, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Well, we need good ideas, but “a solution,” eh… I don’t think there is a single solution – especially coming from the Government.
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 9:45 PM
The GOP needs to do a better job of erasing that whole “party of no” crap. It needs to be more articulate in formulating and stating its alternative proposals and getting them out there. They need to do townhalls and talk about why Obamacare is dangerous and why their proposals will make our healthcare system, our economy and America stronger.
Star20 on August 16, 2009 at 9:45 PM
FIFY
jbtripp on August 16, 2009 at 9:46 PM
that’s why I still say Steele is the fail.
Spiritk9 on August 16, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Agreed… and they can start with tackling the problems in say Medicaid and such.
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Hey, dumbass, you have sixty votes. Republicans can’t do anything. Democrats are the ones who will kill it. And they’ll kill it because, duh duh da, the American people hate it.
I like this idea. Let Democrats run on the fact that the “GOP” was responsible for killing a piece of legislation that the American people hated. Remind them that Democrats fought tooth and nail against the wishes of the American people.
Brilliant.
amerpundit on August 16, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Now we see why the Left hates her so. They laugh at her, scoff at her, scowl at her, lie about her. But in the end, she is the one who resonates with the people and those who hate her are now scrambling for cover.
pearson on August 16, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Oh yeah, baby. You do that.
ddrintn on August 16, 2009 at 9:49 PM
It seems as though Mr. Carville assumes either that 1.) the majority of Americans support any bill that the Democrats “put out there” or 2.) it doesn’t matter if the people support it or not. This whole representative government thing seems like an inconvenience to him.
z9z99 on August 16, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Saw that. Liked it. I think seeing Obama flail without a teleprompter has been quite an eye opener for Dr. Krauthammer who (to my disappointment) just is so bowled over by him when it’s turned to the “on” position.
Marcus on August 16, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Someone needs to explain to Price that the federal government’s responsibility is only found in Medicaid and Medicare and that is all that the federal government should be addressing in their legislation. The federal government has nothing to say about private insurance, unless it is regulating commerce of insurance between the states (not regulating insurance, but the commerce of insurance!) or tort reform. Other than that, private health care is a state issue.
The Constitution, and its limits, need to be put front and center in this argument. Now, for most lefties, the Constitution is nothing but the Bill of Rights (and only their favored “rights”) but they need to be taught about the main body of the Constitution which defines the architecture and limits of the federal government. I’m willing to bet that 88% of lefties think that the Constitution is nothing but a few amendments, with the rest not worth reading – as that is what The Precedent was describing in that insane interview he had given when he described the Constitution as a “charter of negative liberties”. It was clear that he was only talking about amendments, but, who would expect anything more from an affirmative action Harvard alum?
progressoverpeace on August 16, 2009 at 9:52 PM
The angry mob tied this blood sucker up and Sarah drove a stake through it’s heart. All we need now is a little sunshine to turn it to dust.
HoustonRight on August 16, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Yep. By all means, Carville. Please make the 2010 election about the HealthCare bill and the need for a public option. Puleeeze!
pearson on August 16, 2009 at 9:52 PM
The GOP would benefit by introducing solutions.
First, make insurance available across state lines.
Second, make those that press frivolous lawsuits pay all legal fees.
Third, doctors that lose their license in one state should not be able to get a license in another state.
Kini on August 16, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Look, they are going to have a bill. Obama’s presidency is over without it, and the midterms will be a bloodbath. So the GOP has got to get in there, say “Good, one bad thing down, about 100 more to go” and get a bill that does no harm, and then stamp their brand on it so Obama’s got nothing to ride into 2010 and 2012 with. Really, you can’t run on “we killed the bill,” but you can run on “we stopped them cold in their tracks from destroying the American health care system.”
Rational Thought on August 16, 2009 at 9:53 PM
I don’t buy it. Even if they claim that they took it all out, thy can slip it all back in in the middle of the night during Conferences to resolve differences between the house and senate, and they can then attempt to force the blue dogs and limp wristed RINO’s into voting for it all anyway..
Better to kill it completely.
Scubafreak on August 16, 2009 at 9:54 PM
That’s rough, spirit. Carville would like it – he loves low blows.
progressoverpeace on August 16, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Get the breakdown of opposition correct for a change. While we have 40+ percent of GOP-blind followers opposing ANY change, the OTHER opposition is in strong favor of a single-payer approach. But what is never stated in the corporate-owned MSM is that a large percentage of those favoring a single-payer program would settle for a public option as the best option currently available.
So at the end of the day the primary point THAT NO ONE IS MAKING is that a strong majority of US citizens are for a public option, AT THE VERY LEAST.
Co-ops will not offer significant competition to health insurers, and so far all we have from all aspects of the healthcare industry are promises that are in all likelihood completely empty.
If there is no public option, there is essentially no reform of the US healthcare system, and this country–particularly small business interests–cannot afford a continuation fo the healthcare status quo.
hottieinthehouse on August 16, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Pretty much the same thing, and the public knows it.
Let Carville’s Dems run against the Republicans on that basis. I remember the last time that happened.
ddrintn on August 16, 2009 at 9:55 PM
When the Swiss are reminded of our mind set & asked if they think it is intrusive of our Government to interfere with Helathcare, this is their response:
“When the question is put another way, she laughs. “Oh, I see. That’s really an American question. You are so used to having this individualistic way of thinking, and that’s why you don’t have these social [safety] nets. You still have this pioneer mentality></strong>where everyone has to take care of themselves.”
Ladywolfnl on August 16, 2009 at 9:56 PM
And somehow wean people off of government programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. No, don’t terminate them now, but phase them out.
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 9:56 PM
B.s. If that were true, that stalwart Democrat party would’ve passed this monstrosity months ago.
ddrintn on August 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Someone needs to explain to Mr. Carville that it is important to wear sunscreen on his head as well as the rest of the body. Clearly his brain is fried. Did he forget that the dems have the “super majority” and can pass anything they want as long as they all, including the Blue Dogs go along with them? What a collossal turd. The problem is not the repubs saying no it is some of the dems saying no just as loud.
BTW I don’t mind being the “party of no” when it is in the best interest of this country.
milwife88 on August 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM
And here’s how you can help out “the cause.”
Boycott Whole Foods.
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Is the health system in America really broken?
Is the health insurance program in America really broken?
Where exactly are the problem areas? Why?
Perhaps it would be more prudent to address the problem areas one at a time? Instead of this wholesale overhaul?
And let’s openly and honestly address Tort Reform.
And let’s end the “stateline” roadblock.
And let’s demand that the Obama Administration provide full disclosure regarding that 47 million number. Who are they?
What makes me so angry on this issue is that we demand facts, and they demand we accept platitudes.
coldwarrior on August 16, 2009 at 9:58 PM
I like Krauthammer, but he is Beltway. He thought the people would be turned off by the passion of the protesters. He completely missed the fact that the protesters ARE the people.
pearson on August 16, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Whatever happened to Medicaid? That’s a “public option”.
ddrintn on August 16, 2009 at 9:59 PM
I have no problem being the party of NO:
Do we need to give health insurance to illegals: NO
Can we afford our current obligations: NO
Should we turn our medical records over to Obama: NO
Will we let the gubmit ration our care: OH HELLS NO!
Now, if they would like to talk about tort reform, helping those with pre-existing conditions, and getting health care for the WORKING poor and workers who have become unemployed, that is something to which I can say YES.
Laura in Maryland on August 16, 2009 at 10:00 PM
I’m in that “bottom of the food chain” category – grad student, and while I am enrolled in classes (which can be the whole year) I am given a pretty darned good insurance plan.
I’d say our system could be much more “broken”
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 10:00 PM
looks like desparation to me
keep fighting the good fight folks!!!
cmsinaz on August 16, 2009 at 10:00 PM
I love that Sarah Palin NAILED the “death panels” right to BHO’s forehead. He is now stuck with that thought in the minds of millions of Americans and nothing the SRM can do can change that fact. We need to get this monster killed completely dead and as someone above said exposed to the sunshine so that it turns to dust which then needs to be swept up and put in the dust bin of history.
TruthToBeTold on August 16, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Who’s we?
lorien1973 on August 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM
spot on
cmsinaz on August 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Yup+1
d1carter on August 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Don’t be fooled. The “public option” is not dead, just toned down. Beware of co-ops. They’ll begin like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and they’ll end similarly, while the taxpayers will have to suffer all the way.
None of it will improve health-care but it will be the biggest wealth redistribution imagineable.
Schadenfreude on August 16, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Paging Ron White. Mr. White, Mr. White, you’re need on the QOTD thread, ASAP.
Ron White: You can’t fix stupid.
Laura in Maryland on August 16, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Begin by letting private industry take over Medicare and Medicaid. Add tax incentives and eliminate nonessential parts of the programs, like abortions and birth control.
Kini on August 16, 2009 at 10:02 PM
hottieinthehouse on August 16, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Besides the fact I think that you are a troll. Quick question about your screen name…
Does it hurt to kiss your own a$$? Seriously?
milwife88 on August 16, 2009 at 10:02 PM
I do too. A woman who’s had word-bombs thrown at her for nearly a year throws a nice grenade of her own.
ddrintn on August 16, 2009 at 10:03 PM
True
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 10:03 PM
You stole my thought. =D
Emily M. on August 16, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Emily M. on August 16, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Great minds think alike :)!
milwife88 on August 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM
hottieinthehouse on August 16, 2009 at 9:55 PM
S/b wettieinthehouse, for more than one reason.
Schadenfreude on August 16, 2009 at 10:06 PM
That’s where I would start.
I wish the GOP would get it’s act together and press this as the better alternative to the Obamacare.
Kini on August 16, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Republicans don’t have the numbers to filibuster an order to Dominos for Pizza, much less the Health Care bill.
smfoushee on August 16, 2009 at 10:07 PM
“Kini on August 16, 2009 at 10:06 PM”
too many law-yuhs in even the gop for tort reform to get traction — sad, really …
Buckaroo on August 16, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Friends:
I flat out refuse this BS. These people foisted this 1,000 page monstrosity on us in total, when we wanted to have more focused, separate pieces of legislation to deal with. Since we couldn’t get it piecemeal, they ain’t taking it back piecemeal, we need to make this sh!t hurt going both ways. We are NOT going to let them have it both ways, to try to pass a confusing monstrosity over on us, then strip out token pieces when the heat gets turned up. Nope, they tried to make us eat that crap sandwich and now its their turn.
Kill it outright. Sequester POTUS at White House. He wants a bill, then start writing.
How’s that for change, jack.
ted c on August 16, 2009 at 10:08 PM
I think we all wish that. I am hoping and praying that they are ready to take it to the dems first thing tomorrow morning. “Moving on, let’s get tort reform in there, shall we?”
Rational Thought on August 16, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Let’s shove that crap sandwich down Nancy and Harry’s throats!
Upstater85 on August 16, 2009 at 10:09 PM
To hear Obama and the other usual suspects tell it, that 47 million is a fixed figure, never changing, only growing, a permanent underclass. My youngest, now in college, carries health insurance from the college, and is on mine as well. She’s covered. But, for three months each year, she isn’t covered under her college plan. But she is still covered by mine.
Then there are those employers who are no longer providing health insurance because they no longer are employers.
Then there are that estimated 12-20 million illegal aliens who are being provided health care through a number of agencies, not just emergency room visits, many of which are funded at the federal and state level.
Then there are those estimated 2-5 million gangbangers…can’t see them enrolling in a Crips & Bloods Mutual Health Program, or the MS-13 Associated Health Plan any time soon. Yet, they eat up a lot of hospital and doctor time, energy and costs daily.
There are a few areas that need to be addressed. But the entire system broken? Unsustainable? Hardly.
Three major parts of the program thus far have seen a major retreat by Congress…there are others than can be taken off the table…but let’s just kill the entire thing.
Then get honest about the real or perceived problem.
coldwarrior on August 16, 2009 at 10:10 PM
What? And interfere with vacations and campaign stops?
ddrintn on August 16, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Yeah, everyone has to eat, but without real tort reform, the cost issues will never be settled.
Obama keeps saying he wants to keep the insurance companies honest, but lawyers are the ones that need a come to Jesus meeting in honesty.
Kini on August 16, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Sorry Carville, you mean the party of “NO SOCIALISM” not just the party of “NO.”
Actually he is handing this to us. The party of:
enoughalready on August 16, 2009 at 10:12 PM
NO COMPROMISE! Keep the GOP’s feet to the fire. Don’t let them fall victim to the swan song of the Liberal MSM.
When you compromise with Progressives all you do is delay the day of reckoning.
Arm yourselves with the Constitution and engage in this battle.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
DerKrieger on August 16, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Health care reform is actually easy.
1. Expand the use of HSAs
2. Expand the use of high deductible, low premium plans
3. Use the Commerce Clause to allow for the creation of a national market rather than 50 state markets
4. Allow individuals to purchase insurance with pretax dollars
5. Replace Medicare and Medicaid with prepaid HSA cards and allow or direct all recipients to purchase their own health insurance with their HSA subsidy
6. Tort reform
7. Stand back and watch the market work its magic
DerKrieger on August 16, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Yep, mista hahhvahd now needs to prove his mettle. I submit that the opposition now demand the President sit his sweet little a$$ in the White House he wanted so damn bad–park Air Force 1 for a bit, and he start tap tapping out some legislation. He’s such a $hit hot professor and professional student and all, this will just suit him fine. This is his piece of signature legislation and all, so let’s give POTUS a quiet room, a laptop and have at it there Mista President, show us a vision, jack. You tried to force us to eat 1,000 plus pages of your crap, well now it’s coming right back at you and you’re at square numero uno, so crack your knuckles and let’s start seeing some vision. You wanted that damn job so bad, let’s start seeing you do something with it. We’re canceling all your meetings, alls you’ve got now is study hall there champ… get writing.
You were going to make us eat all of it, now you’re getting all of it back with an “F” for a complete rewrite.
ted c on August 16, 2009 at 10:16 PM
A lot of people declaring victory prematurely…these Dems are not done with this….it’s just a tactic. ‘Co-Op’ is a bait and switch. It must be killed, 100% or we will wake up one morning in October to read that page 876, paragraph 2 describes the public plan option.
tatersalad on August 16, 2009 at 10:16 PM
So true. If the GOP wants a real wedge issue, they should use the “greedy lawyer” meme when calling for tort reform, i.e., “Greedy lawyers are causing health care costs to spiral out of control, thus denying coverage to millions. These same greedy lawyers give millions in political contributions to democrats. Tell the democrats to stop their greedy lawyer friends from making health care unavailable to sick people. Demand tort reform now!”
If the dems had a wedge issue like this just staring them in the face, they’d be all over it. What’s more, the GOP can point to the now-despised philanderer John Edwards as exhibit #1 in the greedy lawyer, bogus medical malpractice sweepstakes.
Rational Thought on August 16, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Yup, Dear Leader is liking him some Air Force One…
d1carter on August 16, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Allow tax credits to those who purchase their own insurance
Kini on August 16, 2009 at 10:19 PM
I agree with you and I don’t. I agree that the GOP needs to be out there presenting an alternative view but I disagree that the party of no is a bad thing. There is a record of the GOP voting against the failures of the current administration. Is it really obstruction if the GOP is right and the filthy liar in the White House is wrong?
highhopes on August 16, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Yep – if it ain’t dead and buried, it ain’t dead.
DerKrieger on August 16, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Adjust your fire. We wanted a sequence of legislation and time to digest and debate it. They’ve tried to pass the lump sum, and now want to revise and edit it piecemeal. I say a big f()ck no to that crap.
You dish it out at 1,000 pages, you eat it at 1,000 pages. No nibbling around the edges. As Herb Woods said to the 1980′s Olympic Hockey Team “Boys, those days are OVER!”
chomp chomp Congres. How’s that crap sandwich taste. It’s all coming back your way. No piecemeal roll out, no piecemeal roll back jack.
ted c on August 16, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Co-ops may not make it past the liberals. They want socialized healthcare and co-ops do not do that. The key for those of us against the government seizing healthcare is to make sure that co-ops are created to succeed and that the default for failure isn’t government takeover.
highhopes on August 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM
The “Ragin’Cajun” sounds kinda mad.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!
Go “F” yourself, Carville.
David2.0 on August 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Carville & friends like that “party of no” slogan. In fact, sloganeering is one of the things they do best. However, how soon they forget Tom Daschele – the Obstructionist In Chief, as he was known in D.C. He said “No” when asked the time of day, so “slash and burn” Carville makes no headway identifying Republicans as the party of no. Push has come to shove and Carville – like most of the names who’ve been running off at the mouth on that side of the aisle – will melt into the woodwork when the fan and fecal material collide.
GoldenEagle4444 on August 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Pretty much looking like Obamalot is going to be a continuous ABBA movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Do0SZYKXY&feature=channel
Huffington Post is worth visiting these days if only to read that liberal smarmy b—- author Jane Smiley out of love with her man. S.O.S.!
Marcus on August 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Let’s see Edwards channel morality out of his situation.
Start tort reform by making it painful to those that press frivolous lawsuits. Make the lawyer and the plaintiff pay for all the costs. Make the incentive less attractive to sue.
Kini on August 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM
A lot of unhapppy little Kossacks tonight as it slowly dawns on them that Dear Leader is a politician – a somewhat ineffective one to boot – and not a Messiah.
No, I won’t link but I’m quietly savoring it.
Drained Brain on August 16, 2009 at 10:25 PM
As usual, in keeping with his standard policy of being an idiot in serious need of a village, James “Ol’ Serpenthead” Carville gets it wrong with a capital “W”.
It is not the GOP that will end up killing Obamacare.
It will be the American people, who are now fed up with government infringing on their rights and liberties.
And Carville better get ready for a serious shelacking in 2010, because that is when the American people are going to speak again, not with just voices, but this time with votes.
pilamaye on August 16, 2009 at 10:27 PM
“They” attempted to excoriate her for it, but it did stick, didn’t it? LOL!
David2.0 on August 16, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Listen, the only thing they want is to turn off the pressure and publicity that is starting to leak in to the MSM. This movement CAN NOT stop.
PaCadle on August 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM
I have no problem with them just saying no. Carville is a putz.
TXMomof3 on August 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM
I could care less about some old koot calling the GOP the party of No. The GOP needs to get on message.
It amazes me that a former Alaskan governor comments on a Facebook page made such an impact on this baloney of a healthcare bill.
If the GOP cannot lead, then get the hell out of Sarah Palin’s way.
Kini on August 16, 2009 at 10:31 PM
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