What we want from the Republicans
posted at 6:42 pm on August 14, 2009 by Doctor Zero
The Republicans have been pretty quiet while the Democrats self-destruct over their health care power grab. The angry citizens confronting imperial Democrats at town-hall meetings have been doing a fine job of expressing themselves so far, but eventually their anger will fade, and it will be time for the G.O.P. to step up and offer them an alternative to the Obama nightmare. They would be well advised to develop a clear understanding of what their constituents want, and what the country needs.
We need more than just a slight discount on the insane debt Obama has saddled the country with. It takes nothing away from the magnitude of the Obama failure to acknowledge that he doubled a deficit that was already far too large. We need a Republican leadership that can address the basic immorality, and inevitable disaster, of Big Government spending sprees, rather than just offering a few adjustments to spending priorities and calling it “compassionate conservatism.” The Republican electorate is not simply waiting for its chance to toddle up to the federal vending machine, stuff a trillion-dollar bill in the slot, and order its favorite snacks.
Republican candidates must recognize the Obama disaster as a unique opportunity to explain the fundamental flaws in the statist model our nation has pursued for generations. Obama was not a transformational figure. He merely jumped liberalism ahead by a few election cycles, and demonstrated the final, fatal absurdity of its philosophy. Republicans should take this unique opportunity to attack the horrendously mistaken, supposedly invulnerable assumptions which have guided the devolution of our federal government since the New Deal. Obama was the inevitable product of machinery that has been groaning and clanking in the American basement for decades. We don’t want Republicans to tell us how they could deliver the nanny state for a bit less money than Obama wanted to spend. We don’t want to hear the 2008 Democrats portrayed as well-meaning reformers who just over-reached a little bit, or handled the marketing effort for their programs badly. We need leaders with the courage to head down into the basement with sledgehammers, and start knocking Roosevelt and Johnson’s nightmare machine to pieces. It’s not enough to just roll the current madness back a little, then let the whole tragedy play itself out again, with our children as the captive audience.
Every politician runs on a platform of “change.” We want change in 2010… but, for once, we want the government to change. We’ve had enough of people like Obama trying to use the government to change us. We’re tired of being slammed with thousand-page bills that tell us what we have to sacrifice, and what we’re not allowed to do. We want to see some one-page bills that list things the government is not allowed to do.
We reject the assumption that virtue is the exclusive province of the State. We’ve had enough of being told we’re morally obligated to hand over our fortunes to thieves who squander it on fleets of luxury jet aircraft and endless foreign junkets. We see nothing moral about giving the State a dollar, so it can give a nickel to someone it finds deserving of our compulsory charity. We see the State as a necessary expense to secure our safety, and like all expenses, it should be kept to a prudent minimum.
We know that opportunity dies alongside risk and responsibility. America remains a land of incredible possibilities, populated by a brave and resourceful people. It is not well-served by an arrogant, power-hungry government that sees itself as the stern nursemaid of a dying nation, whose pain it seeks to manage by spreading misery as evenly as possible. We don’t need politicians to hold us down in our hospice beds, until we stop thrashing around.
We demand leadership that recognizes our virtue, instead of insulting us for daring to question theirs. We expect them to propose clear, carefully drafted laws that citizens of good faith can follow, without relying on an arcane priesthood of lawyers to manage every aspect of their lives. We expect politicians to cheerfully submit their proposals to public debate… and when those laws are ratified, we expect politicians to obey them. We elect representatives, not rulers. Self-government means the political class is obliged to live in the world their legislation creates.
We’re looking for political competence, as well as intellectual ability. It does little good to vote for people who have the right ideas, but no clue how to implement them. Political campaigns are not undergraduate lectures, revival meetings, or accounting seminars. The rules for Republican candidates are bitterly unfair… and extremely well-known. We don’t want to see any more deer-in-the-headlights expressions from candidates who can’t believe their “friends” in the media have betrayed them. We don’t want candidates who hide below decks while staffers run their campaigns aground. We absolutely do not need any Republican politician stupid enough to think he can get away with something just because Barack Obama did. The last Republican leader who should have been surprised by savagely dishonest Democrat attacks was Barry Goldwater, and he’s been dead for ten years. Conservatives are attracted to candidates who seem like “ordinary folks.” Well, there is nothing the Washington power elite despises more, and understands less, than “ordinary folks.” Every conservative candidate should be ready to deal with it.
We need confident leaders who draw strength from their conservative convictions. We don’t need any more candidates who internalize the Left’s caricature of Republicans, and begin their campaigns by drafting their concession speeches. We don’t need candidates who spend their time telling the voters what a fine upstanding statesman their honorable opponent is – the Democrats have a dozen television networks, and hundreds of newspapers, to handle that task. Republicans should have the fortitude to remind the voters about the bottomless corruption of the Democrats, and make the case that the horror show chronicled in Michelle Malkin’s new book is an inevitable result of Big Government, not a perversion of it. That means we don’t need any more clowns from the G.O.P. angling for a spot in the paperback release of Michelle’s book. For a conservative candidate, sincerity is strength, and cynicism is cancerous.
We don’t need opportunistic politicians who think the path to power involves carving a tasty slice from the Republican electorate, then tossing the rest to the wolves. The fiscal and social sides of conservatism are not warring camps to be played off each other. America needs both of them, for capitalism and freedom are both powerful and just, and they deserve an argument that is both logical and passionate. We don’t need candidates who see the 2010 campaign as their audition for a lucrative job as a CNN consultant in 2012. Our leadership must have higher ambitions than becoming the Left’s new favorite pet.
We ask our candidates for the faith to return control of our lives and wealth to the people. We ask for the determination to battle the inevitable wave of voter fraud that will be deployed in the next few elections. We ask for the humility to trust the people of a free nation over its ruling class. We ask for the vision to see that thirty-year-old bad ideas are not permanent fixtures that must be accepted forever. We ask for the wisdom to understand that all of this will be incredibly difficult… and the spirit to go ahead and do it anyway.
We are the great-grandchildren of the patriots who brought that spirit into the world, with the birth of our nation. We have heard the case from those who believe that nation should be dismantled, and witnessed the vile tactics they deploy to achieve that end. Americans have seen enough of Barack Obama’s party. Soon, they will turn to the loyal opposition, and ask if they have anything better to offer. The Republicans should have their answer ready, and be prepared to read it from memory, without the aid of a teleprompter.
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Common sense needs to become a much less rare virtue.
coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 6:44 PM
As an imperialist I take offense to calling democrats “imperial”. my left nut is more “imperial” than the entire democratic party.
Darth Executor on August 14, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Aww, TOTUS doesn’t like you!
upinak on August 14, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Before anything, Republicans need to find some balls.
When and if they find some, I highly recommend asking Palin on how to use them.
darwin on August 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Yar
Agreed thar, Mister Zero
Let us sweep these land lubbers down to Davey Jones’s Locker!
Argh, I be tellin’ ya that the privateers of Big Guvverrrmint be doin’ nothin’ but they very best to wreak havoc on the citizens of this nation
A_Pirates_Tooth on August 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Doc scores again. Now, forward this link to your to the NRC…let ‘em know what we demand.
AUINSC on August 14, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Who?
Really, can they give us the list of the 5 remaining Republicans?
faraway on August 14, 2009 at 6:48 PM
H2O
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 6:48 PM
I tell ya with the seas standin’ still on a pirate’s eye that we be settin’ sail ferrr victory under the flag of Doc Zeroooo
A_Pirates_Tooth on August 14, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Bravo Doc, Bravo…
jbtripp on August 14, 2009 at 6:49 PM
I haven’t yet read HR 3400, but summary looks good. Why no mention of this bill in your blog?
http://rsc.tomprice.house.gov/Solutions/EmpoweringPatientsFirstAct.htm
jbh45 on August 14, 2009 at 6:50 PM
In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but planning is indispensable.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 5 star General and 34th President of the United States of America.
MB4 on August 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM
What was that link to the Dr’s PAC I need to stimulate the economy :)
HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Hey there, non-stranger! Welcome back!
Patrick S on August 14, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I’m holding off on any support until there is something along the lines of a new contract with America. Starting with an end to pork and a line item veto.
I don’t care if they give it to Obama. A line item veto would be better in the long run than anything else they can come up with.
cozmo on August 14, 2009 at 6:53 PM
“Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.”
- General George Patton Jr
faraway on August 14, 2009 at 6:53 PM
This article should be required reading for any candidate running for office. Great post, Doctor Zero.
Political Junkie on August 14, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Well done, Doctor Zero. What the Republicans should be harping on (that I have heard from a few of the town hall protesters, but not in the more general debate) is the Constitution, the idea that the federal government is limited in very well-defined ways (whether something costs money or even makes money for the federal government) and that the federal government is not allowed to just open up a company (the “public option”) in order to “provide competition” to the private sector, or for any other reason. It is important the the restrictions of the federal government start to be spoken about as the major part of the public discussion on health care. I liked what Palin had written, but she also skipped this part, which is a shame, since she had hit the un-Constitutional expansion of the federal government pretty hard in her two resignation speeches.
The most important point about the health care debate is setting the bounds of federal government action and explaining that the whole purpose of the Constitution was specifically to define these limits. They need to hammer home the idea that The Precedent and his junta are ignoring the foundations of our nation, as they move to totally change it and turn it into a sort of society that values nothign but political power.
progressoverpeace on August 14, 2009 at 6:55 PM
I don’t want to know how Republicans are going to be better than the current administration and congress. I want to know how they are going to be better than the last 6 months of the Bush administration.
exception on August 14, 2009 at 6:55 PM
AuH2O.
coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 6:55 PM
As someone already pointed out I forgot the Au part. heh
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Not a good way to start a post–with a myth. Boehner, Flake, Jindal, Palin, McCain, Kyl, & too many others to name have been speaking out, mostly in their home states (which is why I just named 3 Arizonans). It’s not their fault if the media don’t give them as much time as the Dems.
jgapinoy on August 14, 2009 at 6:55 PM
And for God’s sake put an end to all these infernal CZARS!
Disturb the Universe on August 14, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Doctor Zero, excellent analysis as usual. I agree with every point you propounded.
Add seventy-year-old bad ideas, too. We have the attention of the electorate focused on the dangers of big government and we should be discussing Social Security reform as well.
I hope Doctor Zero is becoming a regular contributor here at Hot Air. Thus far, I agree 100% with the good doctor’s columns.
Terrie on August 14, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Barry Goldwater railed against the Republicans of the 1960s whose only offering was a “dime store New Deal.” Phyllis Schlafly boldly wrote and spoke of “a choice, not an echo.” That was almost 50 years ago. With the great exceptions of Kemp and Reagan, we still have not had the leaders to make the case against ever-expanding government. Even Newt Gingrich just wants to tinker with the government plumbing, not dismantle and junk it.
If Republicans cannot offer the choice, they need to step aside and let us form a new party.
rockmom on August 14, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Doctor Zero,
OUTSTANDING
I am humbled.
tessa on August 14, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Ron Paul was the only legitimate choice in the last primary.
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 6:59 PM
“Paging Michael Steele………….. Paging Michael Steele………
……. Doctor Zero will see you now!”
Seven Percent Solution on August 14, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Good point.
Upstater85 on August 14, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Although I will say that Obama’s plan to end Bush’s extraordinary rendition program is almost worth ignoring all other issues and just voting for that.
So it will be a shame if Obama does not keep his word.
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Exactly!
cubachi on August 14, 2009 at 7:02 PM
This might mean pointing out where Republicans of the past were WRONG…
Upstater85 on August 14, 2009 at 7:02 PM
He didn’t get my vote because I didn’t care for his stance on terrorism. Besides, he seemed sheepish to me.
jbh45 on August 14, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Excellent analysis. How about reducing it to numbered or bulleted points– principles that can be reiterated much like the Constitution or points in a grassroots contract with America?
obladioblada on August 14, 2009 at 7:04 PM
And what was his stance on terrorism?
Upstater85 on August 14, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Beautifully said, but not going to happen. The Republican party is currently too shot through with cowards and moral idiots who either don’t know what a leftist is, don’t want to know, or don’t want the responsibility of telling others.
We’re at the beginning of the revolution, at the point where conviction first grips cowardice in the storm of chaos.
The people are our strength right now.
rrpjr on August 14, 2009 at 7:05 PM
If I could do one thing to the gutless D.C. wing of the Republican party, chaining them to brick walls and forcing them to memorize the constitution, the federalist papers, and Doctor Zero essays would be a good start…
And if it doesn’t work, hell, they’re already up against the wall…
Mew
acat on August 14, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Very well put.
However, there is a serious error that needs to be corrected, which I’ll do here:
We
askdemand of our candidatesforthe faith to return control of our lives and wealth to the people. Weask fordemand the determination to battle the inevitable wave of voter fraud that will be deployed in the next few elections. Weask fordemand the humility to trust the people of a free nation over itsrulingpolitical class. Weask fordemand the vision to see that thirty-year-old bad ideas are not permanent fixtures that must be accepted forever. Weask fordemand the wisdom to understand that all of this will be incredibly difficult… and the spirit to go ahead and do it anyway.single stack on August 14, 2009 at 7:06 PM
To ignore it.
progressoverpeace on August 14, 2009 at 7:06 PM
There are fresh, young faces that are running for office or considering it. These might be our only hopes if we want to continue working with the Constitution we have.
Upstater85 on August 14, 2009 at 7:06 PM
I would also add that not all of us are the great-grandchildren of those who fought for and founded this nation. A great many of us are the children and grandchildren of those who fled grinding poverty imposed by greedy despots, political oppression, religious persecution, famine wrought by misguided collectivists, and various other ills visited upon men by other men in the name of some utopian vision. To our fathers and mothers, America was a shining beacon of freedom and opportunity. My own grandfather came here penniless from a tiny town in Poland, ended up in Savannah, Georgia because Ellis Island was full, and made a good life for himself and his children. My great-grandfather on the other side was part of the great Scotch-Irish immigration into the hills and hollows of Appalachia.
We know what made this country great, and what makes it still great and greater than all others before it — its people. Not its government. Not its academics and bureaucrats. We know from our fathers and grandfathers that Capitalism and free enterprise built the greatest engine of growth and upward mobility mankind has ever seen. We will not stand by and watch it mocked, trashed, burned, and mutilated by some silly Utopian socialists who have never held or created a real job in their lives.
rockmom on August 14, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 6:59 PM
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Ron Paul is a greedy old man, more interested in lining his and his friends’ pockets with campaign contributions than doing a damn thing for his country.
You were deceived, just like the Obamabots.
Mew
acat on August 14, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Eh, I don’t think anyone can just ignore it, but I will agree he thought we didn’t need to be as involved with the War on Terror.
Upstater85 on August 14, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Wow! That was a really long story! But there’s one thing I still don’t get… If I vote for the GOP, will Obama still pay my mortgage and gas up my car?
Scarbarian on August 14, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Don’t get too excited about the GOP …
With the exception of a few “new” players on the scene like Palin, Jindal, Rubio … a few others …
The rest of the GOP leadership is still the old crowd of “shoot yourself in the foot” Ayatollahs that drove us into this stinking mess to begin with.
They are the same group of Ayatollahs that have kicked the can down the field for years – while the train wrecks of Social Security and Medicare shortfalls kept barreling down on us.
They are the same group of Ayatollahs that – EVEN IN THE MIDST OF CLEAR VICTORY ON THE HEALTH CARE ISSUE – don’t seem to have it in them to jump out of the trenches and make the final charge. Hmmmm … if you can’t FIGHT when you have the public behind you – how can you fight when the going gets tough?
I want people to look out at the landscape right now and find the people who are fighting – and also, identify those who aren’t – those that are sitting on their crappers waiting for the other side to drop the flag so they can go pick it up and pretend that they forced them to drop it.
When I look out there – one name stands out as a fighter – Sarah Palin. She’s been in the news almost daily since she left the Governor’s mansion. She’s not afraid to use terms like “Death Panel” – and to call Obama out on his lies.
And of course – her attacks weren’t effective were they? Heheh … voila! Note the Death Panels have been removed by the Democrats. I would also like to point out to you that only a day after Sarah Palin made use of the term “Death Panel” – the Democrats scrambled to remove it from their bill. I’d also like to point out that NO OTHER REPUBLICAN has forced this kind of concession from the Democrats so quickly.
And people say she’s ineffective? Not intelligent? Inexperienced? Has no chance? Pfft!
Think what we could do if we had all the Ayatollahs on the field playing ball instead of cowering in their cloakrooms.
HondaV65 on August 14, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Then the whole country was deceived.
Upstater85 on August 14, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Only if you get on the flagged list.
Upstater85 on August 14, 2009 at 7:09 PM
I agree comrade! Power to the proletariat!
Fighton03 on August 14, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Well Doc Zero I see you are on your game with the above article. I am happy to see you acknowledge the impending voter fraud as something that needs to be resolved.
sonnyspats1 on August 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Obama won’t send a stipend to get his stepbrother out of the cardboard box he’s living in over in Africa.
He’s not doing guano for you or me – be sure of that!
HondaV65 on August 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Sadly the Repub leadership has been in decline since the early 2000′s.
Here we are eight months into a Obama admin knowing full well for the last 2 1/2 years what a Obama presidency would be about. He left no doubt, despite all the bobbing and weaving, that Health care, Cap and trade/Global warming and immigration, to name a few, would be first priorities.
A derivative of my question since 2004, where are the pamphlets akin to Thomas Paine’s Common Sense? Short, twenty page position papers outlining Repub positions on various topics. Where is a complete Repub Health care package that directly challenges/competes with Obamacare while at the same time educating the electorate in free market economics?
On Energy? Immigration? They don’t exist.
That’s not how you wait for the next Reagan.
patrick neid on August 14, 2009 at 7:13 PM
HondaV65,
You’ve been sidetracked by the leftists obfuscation. The “death panels” they removed from the bill aren’t the ones Sarah was talking about.
The leftists jumped on the end of life counseling requirement but Sarah was talking about the panels that will decide if someone’s “social worth” justifies spending money on medical treatments.
single stack on August 14, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Bobby Jindal, are you listening?
JimWriter on August 14, 2009 at 7:17 PM
acat,
Bush is a bigger terrorist in terms of raw death toll than Osama though.
Just not having to look at Bush anymore is nice too.
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Hear, hear!
I am better at making decisions for myself that 1000 bureaucrats.
rbj on August 14, 2009 at 7:18 PM
-We demand of our candidates the faith to return control of our lives and wealth to the people.
-We demand the determination to battle the inevitable wave of voter fraud that will be deployed in the next few elections.
-We demand the humility to trust the people of a free nation over its ruling political class.
-We demand the vision to see that thirty-year-old bad ideas are not permanent fixtures that must be accepted forever.
-We demand the wisdom to understand that all of this will be incredibly difficult… and the spirit to go ahead and do it anyway.
Bullets work pretty good. With some tweaking, this could turn into something.
KCB on August 14, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Ron Paul was the only candidate who was both committed to ending the war of terror AND stopping Federal Government growth in all aspects.
None of the other candidates were remotely serious.
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:18 PM
I think I’m going to print this out in about 24 pt. font and put it up on my wall at work.
Thanks, Dr. Zero.
Chris of Rights on August 14, 2009 at 7:19 PM
We have an opportunity though here folks – if we get the new guys on the field quicker than the Dems do.
There’s not a doubt in my mind that next year isn’t going to be a huge year for Republicans. I may not be “take back Capital hill” big but it’ll big enough to stall the Obama agenda.
And the hatred the Democrats are fomenting with the American public toward their party is going to result in MANY old guard dems retiring.
The Republicans have already weathered the worst of that blow. We’re in recovery mode and if we can get the Ayatollahs to stop crapping on our new Conservatives – so we can put them office …
We can win again.
HondaV65 on August 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Upstater85 on August 14, 2009 at 7:09 PM
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No, not all of us. Huge percentages on both side, though.
Mew
acat on August 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Doctor Zero… Very good analysis.
Dire Straits on August 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM
BTW, Dr. Zero is quickly becoming my favorite read.
KCB on August 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM
great post!
GarandFan on August 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Alas, you are quite correct.
Simple written statements of who we are, what we believe, what we want for all America, and upon what we base and will base all of our decisions at the local, state and federal.
How difficult is that? Why aren’t our national party leaders providing the same? Our state leaders?
Instead of putting the bite on the big money guys…why not just do the most basic of things, let the voters know who we are and what we believe, and so forth.
Do that, and show next year, in 2010, that we mean what we say, we believe in our fundamentals and will brook no Sanfords, or Hastert’s in our fold, never more…and turn on the internet and we won’t need the big money guys.
Leadership can do that. Real leadership.
Me? I am darn tired of getting emails and letters asking for funds to finance yet another Democrat Lite candidacy or party.
coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Doc, I think you just described Sarah Palin.
farright on August 14, 2009 at 7:21 PM
If you believe that … then why not prosecute Bush?
Oh … I forgot – you libbies don’t have sack to take him.
Gotcha!
HondaV65 on August 14, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Great article!
visions on August 14, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Simple things need to be done. Figure out where government is ADDING to the high cost of health care, and get that stuff OUT OF THE WAY. Get rid of stupid rules on where, when and how you can purchase insurance, make that more competitive. Then torte reform would be a good secondary place to start.
flyfishingdad on August 14, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Ron Paul?
Ron Paul is nothing more than Ross Perot with a better haircut.
Joe Pyne on August 14, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Dr. Zero,
This is a must-read for every GOP politician and the RNC! May I copy it (with attributions to you and Hot Air, of course) and send it to my rep and Senators? My representative is pretty solid and yet I haven’t heard him rock the boat toooo much. My Senators, well, they tend to be
a littleRINO-ey. They all need to hear this!PrincipledPilgrim on August 14, 2009 at 7:24 PM
HondaV65 on August 14, 2009 at 7:08 PM
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Yep, the gutless wing of the DC party at work… occupying space that could otherwise be used to advance the conservative cause.
This is why it’s important to nominate actual conservatives, not statists, not squishes, not more of the gutless turds we keep sending back …
Mew
acat on August 14, 2009 at 7:26 PM
I kept waiting for the part that I wouldn’t like.
Good show.
Veeshir on August 14, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Spot on, as usual, Doc.
It would be nice if the Republican Party grew a spine.
kingsjester on August 14, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Thought it was the war on terror?
I would never consider a vote for RonPaul. Why?
I prefer to look at the entire record, not just one or two soundbites or bits of sloganeering. And I also look at how well a candidate can manage, control cajole, convince, lead a Congress to accomplish those important programs and actually fulfill those goals.
RonPaul in the same manner as a candidate from my early adulthood, Ross Perot, raised the heat, was impassioned, but had no chance at all in working with anyone, Congress or the American people, to follow through on any goals. In short, a divisive figure, a very divisive figure, who’d walk right over the backs of even those who would give him voice to accomplish his narrow approach to “solving” America’s problems.
I do not want a President solving any of my problems.
I want a President who will work assiduously to establish conditions so individual Americans can solve their own darn problems…without having government constantly on their backs trying to solve things for them.
coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 7:29 PM
-Barry Goldwater
Favorite quote..
KCB on August 14, 2009 at 7:30 PM
Not quite. I’m a baby boomer, and I’ve been paying into the Social Security system for ages, so your parents can have a somewhat comfortable retirement (not my parents — they died before they could collect anything other than the $400 death benefit). Now you say that you want to change the system, and the first thing I’m going to say is “How much of what I put in will I get back?”
If your answer is “nothing”, it’s a non-starter for me and I’m sure a similar nonstarter for all the other baby boomers approaching retirement.
The system was constructed as “pay as you go”, and to change that is not an easy thing to do, and becomes well nigh impossible the moment you say you will deny some generation the stated (and, in the case of Social Security, proven physical) benefits of the system.
So, when you take your sledgehammer downstairs, please make sure none of the chips from what you demolish hit me.
unclesmrgol on August 14, 2009 at 7:30 PM
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:18 PM
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You really don’t get it, do you.
The “war on terror” wasn’t declared by us – and last time I checked, it only takes one to start a fight. All the “war on terror” did was to *acknowledge* that the leaders in the middle east are using us to absorb the hatred of their captive populations.
As for stopping federal growth, I’m all for it – but what Ron Paul proposed was incoherent at best, and would have had precisely zero chance of getting through Congress, regardless of which party was in charge.
Bringing back the gold standard? Really?
Mew
acat on August 14, 2009 at 7:31 PM
unclesmrgol on August 14, 2009 at 7:30 PM
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Uncle,
Right there, a decade or two behind you.
Know what? I’m not betting on getting *dime one* back.
Mew
acat on August 14, 2009 at 7:33 PM
coldwarrior,
I like to call it Bush’s war of terror since that seems like a better name for it.
Bush needs to be investigated but Holder is too weak kneed for it it. He’s looking into investigations but only for people who violated John Yoo’s memos, which means his investigations are pointless anyway. I don’t understand why Yoo’s memos, a low level lawyer in the Justice Department when he wrote them, constitute what the law is.
Allow the the president to crush children’s testicles in a memo should not be the standard to which Holder prosecutes.
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Dear Republicans,
No one ever successfully defended anything. There is only attack and attack and attack some more.
Regards, George S. Patton
Dear Republicans,
Your aim should be to whip the Tyrant Liberals, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread you. Make your campaign as severe as possible, and show no symptoms of tiring until they beg for mercy.
Best regards, William Tecumseh Sherman
Dear Republicans,
You should either indulge your opponents or utterly destroy them, for if you merely offend them they will take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they will be too impotent to retaliate, so that any injury done to your opponents ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared.
My best, Niccolo Machiavelli
MB4 on August 14, 2009 at 7:36 PM
AMEN Doctor Zero!!!!! Thanks – well written and inspiring.
mimi1220 on August 14, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Nothin’ to say to that but HELL YEAH!
Battlecruiser-operational on August 14, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Not wanting to derail this thread, suffice it to ask, exactly what specific parts of the Constitution did G.W. Bush violate?
Yoo’s memos did not establish any law. They were nothing more than one legal interpretation, of many offered, at that time.
coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 7:38 PM
We hear praise of a power-wielding, arm-twisting President who “gets his program through Congress” by knowing the use of power. Throughout the course of history, there have been many other such wielders of power. There have even been dictators who regularly held plebiscites, in which their dictatorships were approved by an Ivory-soap-like percentage of the electorate. But their countries were not free, nor can any country remain free under such despotic power. Some of the current worship of powerful executives may come from those who admire strength and accomplishment of any sort. Others hail the display of Presidential strength simply because they approve of the result reached by the use of power. This is nothing less than the totalitarian philosophy that the end justifies the means If ever there was a philosophy of government totally at war with that of the Founding Fathers, it is this one.
- Barry Goldwater
MB4 on August 14, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:35 PM
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Are you kidding me with this nonsense?
Mew
acat on August 14, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Well, there are plans out there by republicans and they don’t get shown in the media…All they say is we don’t have plans. Go to some websites and their they are. The whole we don’t have a plan is disingenuous…We do, but can’t get it out there.
tomas on August 14, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Excellent post, thank you!
mr.blacksheep on August 14, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Glad your back.
KCB on August 14, 2009 at 7:41 PM
“self-destruct over their health care power grab”?
i wish i had your confidence. the Dems have the press, PhRMA, AARP, and at least one ad I saw was from the Insurance companies saying they were fine with a new healthcare system.
Not to mention the unions.
I mean, really, can 52% of the people stand up against that?
No. Sorry. The polls are really not that strong.
Sure, will they tidy it up a bit? yes. Will they make the public option more opaque or delay it, sure. It is all a ratchet to the Left.
The Left is patient…they feel that the correlation of forces is on their side. Although, actually, I’m not so sure that this isn’t bigger than the Left…
with GE, Goldman Sachs, PhRMA standing ready to cash in on their piece of the Obama pie….it sound more like an oligopoly
I discount the future of the R party for a long time. Remember even with FDR there was opposition. We might have a Tory party, or Christian Democrat party but a Left lurch, then incremental, slow change toward the center. Then probably another lurch Left.
Sorry for rain/parade
“self-destruct over their health care power grab”?
i wish i had your confidence. the Dems have the press, PhRMA, AARP, and at least one ad I saw was from the Insurance companies saying they were fine with a new healthcare system.
Not to mention the unions.
I mean, really, can 52% of the people stand up against that?
No. Sorry. The polls are really not that strong.
Sure, will they tidy it up a bit? yes. Will they make the public option more opaque, sure
The Left is patient…they feel that the correlation of forces is on their side. Although, actually, I’m not so sure that this isn’t bigger than the Left…
with GE, Goldman Sachs, PhRMA standing ready to cash in on their piece of the Obama pie….it sound more like an oligopoly
I discount the future of the R party for a long time. Remember even with FDR there was opposition. We might have a Tory party, or Christian Democrat party but a Left lurch, then incremental, slow change toward the center. Then probably another lurch Left.
r keller on August 14, 2009 at 7:41 PM
your=you’re
KCB on August 14, 2009 at 7:41 PM
wow, really sorry about the 2x cut and paste. please forgive.
r keller on August 14, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Are you sure they can deliver? Those in the beltway are concerned about being invited to hip parties in NY and DC. They care less about the uncouth masses.
dmnari on August 14, 2009 at 7:43 PM
“Not wanting to derail this thread, suffice it to ask, exactly what specific parts of the Constitution did G.W. Bush violate”
Well the WarCrimes Act of 1996 encoded the Geneva conventions, and provided the death penalty to politicians who violate it.
His Wiretapping laws violated the 4th amendment.
One of the “terrorists” Bush abducted was a U.S. citizen that he unilaterally suspected habeas corpus. Even Tim McVeigh had a trial because he was a U.S. citizen.
Torture is the most obvious thing though because that violated natural rights. Bush was a barbarian.
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Opinion v. Fact.
Opinion loses.
I remember a very irate Jessie Ventura not all that long ago demanding that the government explain why McVeigh was not sent to Gitmo. He had no clue.
There are some thing some folks can never understand and there are some things some folks refuse to understand.
All of your premises are false. In toto.
None worthy of comment.
coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Obama voted on and co-authored a bill in the Illinois House that a tiny baby that survived a murder attempt could not be offered any care or compassion but should be left in a closet to die. I wish someone would have the stones to ask him that in a town hall.
tessa on August 14, 2009 at 7:51 PM
coldwarrior,
From just a couple days ago
Scott Horton interviews a freelance journalist about the case of Mohamed Jawad who was 12 years old when he was abducted and tortured into confession (judge ruled it fake) by the U.S. government. He tried to kill himself multiple times, and the U.S. government is resorting to extreme tactics to hold him. The U.S. had no witnesses and no evidence so the U.S. government bribed new witnesses into all sorts of bogus testimony
U.S. government is on some sort of Jihad against this kid as Scott Horton says.
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Why not, since we are broke as a country, try ans save somemoney, just do some baby steps first, like tort reform.
tarpon on August 14, 2009 at 7:52 PM
dmnari on August 14, 2009 at 7:43 PM
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Precisely the problem.
Mew
acat on August 14, 2009 at 7:52 PM
You are nuts.
progressoverpeace on August 14, 2009 at 7:52 PM
coldwarrior,
How about the innocent guy who was realeased named Biyam who underwent one of these torture tours where he went from country to country. Luckily he wasn’t tortured to DEATH like we have done to 100+ people though.
British torture victim Binyam Mohamed to be released from Guantánamo
18.1.09
They cut off my clothes with some kind of doctor’s scalpel. I was naked. I tried to put on a brave face. But maybe I was going to be raped. Maybe they’d electrocute me. Maybe castrate me.
They took the scalpel to my right chest. It was only a small cut. Maybe an inch. At first I just screamed … I was just shocked, I wasn’t expecting … Then they cut my left chest. This time I didn’t want to scream because I knew it was coming.
One of them took my penis in his hand and began to make cuts. He did it once, and they stood still for maybe a minute, watching my reaction. I was in agony. They must have done this 20 to 30 times, in maybe two hours. There was blood all over. “I told you I was going to teach you who’s the man,” [one] eventually said.
They cut all over my private parts. One of them said it would be better just to cut it off, as I would only breed terrorists.
Spathi on August 14, 2009 at 7:55 PM
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