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Sherrod Brown: We’re not doing town halls

posted at 11:36 am on August 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Ohio was a key battleground state for Barack Obama, and the Democratic takeover of its Senate seat in 2006 proved a harbinger of Obama’s eventual general-election victory. Senator Sherrod Brown doesn’t appear to remember who it was that put him in that office. Brown has decided not to hold town-hall forums to answer questions from his constituents, as Hourglass1941 discovered. Instead, Brown has opted for “roundtable discussions” with selected participants while shoving constituents to another building with a faulty videoconferencing connection. Guess who got the invitations?

Oh, sorry, not these people. No, it was the people you’d expect — to rescue Democratic politicians from their constituents:

What Brown held was not, according to his staffers, a town hall meeting, but instead a health care “roundtable.” Apparently that makes a difference. Apparently so that his office staff could lie, without really lying, to constituents who called to ask if he would be holding any town hall meetings. No, they said. No town hall meetings. They didn’t feel obligated to mention the “roundtable.”

Brown cleverly kept the roundtable under wraps until the last minute. At the 11th hour, Brown did an email blast to his supporters. Apparently, Obama email blasted his personal army, Organizing for America.

So, does Brown ever plan to meet with his constituents in the light of day?

This is not Sherrod Brown, but one of his polite and unflappable staffers instead, who probably deserves a raise. He keeps telling the videographer that he’s there to answer her question instead of Brown, but that’s the entire point. No one elected this nice young man to represent the state of Ohio in the US Senate. The voters elected Sherrod Brown, and Brown should be facing them instead of sending staffers with business cards into the hall while Brown closes the doors and convenes with Barack Obama’s OfA groupies.

Be sure to read the rest of the post, which explains the final assessment: “Sherrod Brown can’t run a roundtable, yet he wants to run our health care.”


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Except for one thing, though: I flatly refuse to call Obama “President”.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Emperor Obama I (Obama the Unclothed) seems to have a nice ring to it.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Repeal of the 17th Amendment would be the answer to this but then just like the 16th it was never ratified to begin with. Who the hell would actually been willing to implement an income tax to begin with.

It’s all an elaborate hoax. Rise up my fellow Americans and take back your birth right.

larvcom on August 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Brown is very responsive to his voters. When I say ‘his voters’, I mean those that vote straight ticket democrat. Anyone else who lives in his district doesn’t count.

Vashta.Nerada on August 14, 2009 at 12:38 PM

You mean anyone else who lives in Ohio, right?

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM

semi OT:
Largest Bank failure of the year so far

Market is overbought and numbers this AM show consumer sentiment collapsed again.

elduende on August 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM

On an earlier post:

Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) — More than 150 publicly traded U.S. lenders own nonperforming loans that equal 5 percent or more of their holdings, a level that former regulators say can wipe out a bank’s equity and threaten its survival. Excluding the stress-test list, banks with nonperformers above 5 percent had combined deposits of $193 billion, according to Bloomberg data. That’s almost 15 times the size of the FDIC’s deposit insurance fund at the end of the first quarter.

Vashta.Nerada on August 14, 2009 at 12:44 PM

This is clearly an Impeachable offense!

TN Mom on August 14, 2009 at 12:45 PM

You mean anyone else who lives in Ohio, right?

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Yes, there are so many rats, and so few baseball bats right now.

Vashta.Nerada on August 14, 2009 at 12:45 PM

They are not listening, folks. Make it backfire on them, big time. Throw them all out of office!

Christian Conservative on August 14, 2009 at 12:46 PM

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM

I am in Ohio. And I sure as hell didn’t vote for this POS. The numbers in Ohio are changing fast. 2010 and 2012 are gonig to see an interesting turn around so long as Obama, Brown and the rest of the usual suspects keep pouring on the platitudes whilst the economy of this state tanks, one voting district at a time. Even Toledo is seemingly coming out of its pro-any-Dem comatose state.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM

We should sic those nuns on Fox right now after the dirty, thieving politicians. Some people just can be absolved of their horrible and atrocious sins. These people include Nancy “Nazi” Pelosi, Harry “Evil-Mongering” Reid, et al. Throw holy water on Nazi and she’ll lurch back like the Exorcist girl.

andy85719 on August 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM

I have been a NE Ohio resident for 14 years. For weeks I tried getting answers from Brown’s & Boccreri’s offices as to when they will be holding Town Hall Meetings on the Healthcare and Crap & trade bills.
I repeatedly get the run around and have been hung up on by his staff when I pressed for answers. I am on his mailing list and never received a notification of this meeting. Their websites/staff are covert and vague about these meetings.
I thought I would have better luck going through one of the Left’s orgs. and went through Organizing for America’s website and landed a private meeting for today the 14th, only to find out from his staff yesterday that he wouldn’t be in Cleveland on that day. They had no idea what I was referring to.

Ohioans we need to vote this asshat out of office, along with Jennifer Brunner (Remember her? Our Secy, of State allowed voters to register and vote in the same day last election)& Boccieri;
Brunner’s site; http://www.sos.state.oh.us/
Sherrod Brown; http://brown.senate.gov/newsroom/press_releases/release/?id=F9E80692-3093-47E3-926E-7D8015F84704
John Boccieri; http://www.boccieri.house.gov/index.php?option=com_cont

Jason58 on August 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM

It would be nice if the good people of Ohio would remove the Rino Voinovich and replace him with a constitutionalists minded conservative or liberarian. That man pisses me off worst than Nobama. He stood against John Bolton stands with the DemonRats on everything else just like the Specter of Pa. Both are old and foolish.

larvcom on August 14, 2009 at 12:37 PM

All good points, but Voinovich is not running again. 2010 will be an open Senate seat.

The current Democrat Lt. Gov. Lee Fischer is running as is our corrput Democrat Sec of State, Jennifer Bruener.

I think Republican Rob Portman is running but he has been nvisible. I’m getting a little concerned that he is not out trying to gin up name recognition at the very least.

myrenovations on August 14, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Right’s Use of “Coward” the New “S” Word, Which is the New “N” Word.”

TugboatPhil on August 14, 2009 at 12:09 PM

So we now have the “C” word, the “S” word and the “N” word?

I’d like to buy a vowel, Pat.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 12:48 PM

The beauty of this is you can see the fear and frustration growing among the liberals. They don’t know how to handle a crowd that disagrees with them and can think for themselves.
The usual crowd that shows up to these are prep school turned rasta hippies waiting for Phish to get back together.

redfred on August 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM

When your re-election is guaranteed by ACORN, the Unions, and Organizing for America…………..

…………. you don’t need to listen to your constituents.

How’s that ‘Hope and Change’ working out for you Ohio…..?

Seven Percent Solution on August 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM

I am in Ohio.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM

I had no idea you were in Ohio. I suddenly have a bit more hope about this state.

myrenovations on August 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM

I’m beginning to find even speaking his F-ing name is an ~ahem~ Obamanation.

I voted for Clinton his first time around, for Bush Sr. betrayed my ideals. A month into Clinton’s first term, I swore I would never again cross party lines.

Still, I accepted Bill Clinton as President of the United States of America. If it ever came down it, I’d have run between Clinton and a potential assassin; no way would I let my President be killed no matter how much I opposed his policies.

Now, if it ever came down to it, I wouldn’t budge. Then again, I won’t go anywhere near Obama. If he comes to town, I’m hopping a jet to visit my daughter in NC.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 12:37 PM

I know what you mean. Same here. I’ll just call him “Obama”, or “the precedent” or “the occupant of the White House”.

To be truthful, the only documentation we know is authentic had him as Barry Soetoro, so I don’t even know what his real name is. I wonder if he even knows.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 12:51 PM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Of course some of the current situation can be blamed on the Ohio GOP’s self-inflicted wounds but I’m glad if you think things are coming around. I just moved from Michigan and even with the worst Governor imaginable the state is still stuck on stupid when it comes to supporting the Democrat party.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 12:51 PM

…Who the hell would actually been willing to implement an income tax to begin with…
larvcom on August 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Teachers and the clergy backed it, which was enough to get it passed. If I recall my history correctly, of course.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Who the hell would actually been willing to implement an income tax to begin with.

larvcom on August 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM

FDR and the withholding part of it was by design- why not let the government get the interest off of those tax dollars instead of the citizens? I would suggest there would be far more frugal taxpayers out there if they had to pony up the thousands of dollars in taxes as a single check each April.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

http://issuu.com/andy85719/docs/the_health_care_bill

Find all the dirty secrets inside HR 3200. Yes, there are death panels and that is why Sherrod Brown doesn’t want to do town halls because who would want to have to explain special interests and state surveyors setting rules on the GOALS and uses of end-of-life care.

andy85719 on August 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Is a roundtable forum more amenable for all obama’s houseplants?

ted c on August 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM

I’m in Ohio and very lucky to be working in the aerospace industry (jet engines). Everything else pretty much sucks. Hope and Change.

RustBelt on August 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Vashta.Nerada on August 14, 2009 at 12:44 PM

This has all flown under the radar but it is a house of cards. Nothing has been done since the financial implosion last Sept. If the slightest tremor comes and tips it over, Obama is going to rue the day his daddy first laid eyes on his mother.

LOL! Its going to be ugly.

elduende on August 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM

I live in Ohio, and call Brown’s office on a regular basis expressing my thoughts on how he should cast his votes. I didn’t vote for him the first time, and he certainly has not done anything to win me over to his side. His daughter is a union organizer for the SEIU. The stupidity runs in the family. I am damn mad over this latest deception. He can kiss his senate seat good-bye!!

ice princess on August 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

You’re right. Withholding started during WWII. Rush said some years ago that, if people had to write a check to government for taxes on income, there would be an instant revolution.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 12:50 PM

I personally, and on this I am unanimous, do not want anything bad happening to Obama while he remains in office. Nothing. No attempts on his life, heaven forbid, nor worse…nor to any of his family. None. I pray God protect them.

I do want Obama to leave the White House either by resignation, or being voted out in 2012 by a wide majority, a very clearly defined mandate against him.

Following that, I wish that he disappear from public life, scorned, rejected, forced into ignominy…his name erased from all public records, the old Roman infamia imposed, and then some.

But all done above board, of the people, by the people, for the people…

But no harm brought to him. None.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM

I actually feel sorry for him, personally. The guy is living in the most prosperous place on earth and he’s never learned to love the taste of freedom. What hope is there for somebody like that?

But I’ll be hanged before I’ll leave my children to starve for the taste of freedom just to make him and his ilk feel better about America.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM

I don’t want to see him assassinated, either. I hope the SS…err…Secret Service remain on top of their game. I want Air Force One armed out the ass including tacnukes to protect the duly-elected president of this Nation.

I, personally, won’t make a move to save his lame ass if he gets it in a sling. I’d have done it for Clinton despite my politics. I wouldn’t for this guy, though the sitting VP is no better.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM

This has all flown under the radar but it is a house of cards. Nothing has been done since the financial implosion last Sept. If the slightest tremor comes and tips it over, Obama is going to rue the day his daddy first laid eyes on his mother.

LOL! Its going to be ugly.

elduende on August 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM

It may be starting today – look at the Dow.

Vashta.Nerada on August 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Vashta and Elduende, what are you expecting to come down the pike?

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Hmmm…perhaps he doesn’t trust his ‘people skills’.

CPT. Charles on August 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Hmmm, I smell a rat.

In the words of the incomparable John Wayne as Rooster Cogburn:

Mr. Rat, this is a rat writ, writ for a rat and this is lawful service of same.

wordsmithy2009 on August 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Senator Sherrod Brown doesn’t appear to remember who it was that put him in that office.

We Ohioans do, though.

He can kiss his job goodbye in 2010.

bluelightbrigade on August 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM

We just need a decent GOP candidate to beat him, and have not chosen wisely the last couple of elections.

connertown on August 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM

NO! We just need a decent CONSERVATIVE candidate to beat him. To HELL with the GOP! They brought us Voinovich(RINO), who has been just as bad or worse!

Principles over Party!

dominigan on August 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Principles over Party!
dominigan on August 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Got your back

+100

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 1:12 PM

one of his polite and unflappable staffers instead

Name check in Aisle 5…Name check in Aisle 5.

We’d like to help this young man find another calling in life.

bluelightbrigade on August 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM

My Congress Rep held a phone in session on a radio talk show. He was supposed to be on for one hour, but was 20 minutes late because he was at a photo op for a new facility.

He stated that he just won’t provide a forum to pesky disruption. Instead, he kept cutting off any constituent who asked difficult questions.
When asked about Ezequiel Emanuel and his written works, he replied that he did not know anything about this man or his works. I assume this means that neither he nor his crack staff are unaware of who is advising POTUS because he also asked the caller if Ezequiel was related to Rahm?

His crack team of aides were ready to answer any questions if you call his office.

nor on August 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Third Base Politics and UWIRE actually nailed Sherrod on this one first. Check it out.

http://thirdbasepolitics.blogspot.com/2009/08/hide-and-go-sherrod.html

DJ Tablesauce on August 14, 2009 at 1:17 PM

I have been a NE Ohio resident for 14 years.

I have repeatedly tried to get answers from Brown & Boccieri’s offices for weeks. Neither of their websites list a schedule for their recess activities. Their staff is equally covert in protecting them from their constituents. In a phone conversation with his Cleveland Office 3 weeks ago, I was told that Brown was fully booked for every minute of his recess. When pressing a Brown staff member in Cleveland for info on a Town Hall in NE Ohio, I was hung up on.
I am on Brown’s mailing list and never received notification from his office regarding this meeting.

I then went the Left’s way and made a private appt. through Organizing for America for today at 2PM. I called yesterday to confirm this appt. I was told that he was not in NE Ohio on the 14th, they had no idea that OFA was making these appts.

Fellow Ohioans, let’s vote these morons out of office.

Brunner’s site; http://www.sos.state.oh.us/

Sherrod Brown; http://brown.senate.gov/newsroom/press_releases/release/?id=F9E80692-3093-47E3-926E-7D8015F84704

John Boccieri; http://www.boccieri.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=53

@myrenovations, Tom Ganley is running for Senator. He spoke at the Clevland Tea Party in July.
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2009/04/auto_dealer_tom_ganley_to_run.html

Jason58 on August 14, 2009 at 1:19 PM

FDR and the withholding part of it was by design- why not let the government get the interest off of those tax dollars instead of the citizens? I would suggest there would be far more frugal taxpayers out there if they had to pony up the thousands of dollars in taxes as a single check each April.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

My two suggestions to drastically limit Government…

1) Eliminate withholding.
2) Change Tax Day from April 15th to October 15th.

dominigan on August 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM

The idea that politicians are cowards is nothing new, and I wouldn’t dwell on that. What this health care debacle shows is that the cowardly Dems have a deep hatred for constituents who have contrary opinions, especially about the core of the Obama agenda.

Being cowardly means that he’s just being a politician, something that, in an odd way, gets him off the hook (think the parable of the scorpion and the frog). But contempt for the electorate is different and radioactive. Think of Specter’s disastrous, contempt-laden townhall meetings. That’s the face of the new Democratic-Socialist Party. The hammer and sickle are not symbols of the worker but weapons to use against the electorate.

EMD on August 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM

I had emailed my representative encouraging him to have a townhall on health care. I am lucky because he has voted exactly how I have wanted (purely coincidental) on every issue but I thought he should still do this. I just received his reply. As you can imagine he said all the right things but he totally ignored the suggestion of a town hall. Chicken.

Cindy Munford on August 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM

2) Change Tax Day from April 15th to October 15th.

dominigan on August 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Perhaps change tax day to coincide with election day every two years. That should provide incentive for people to vote.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM

I have been a NE Ohio resident for 14 years.
I have repeatedly tried to get answers from Brown & Boccieri’s offices for weeks. Neither of their websites list a schedule for their recess activities. Their staff is equally covert in protecting them from their constituents. In a phone conversation with his Cleveland Office 3 weeks ago, I was told that Brown was fully booked for every minute of his recess. When pressing a Brown staff member in Cleveland for info on a Town Hall in NE Ohio, I was hung up on.
I am on Brown’s mailing list and never received notification from his office regarding this meeting.
I then went the Left’s way and made a private appt. through Organizing for America for today at 2PM. I called yesterday to confirm this appt. I was told that he was not in NE Ohio on the 14th, they had no idea that OFA was making these appts. I did not receive notification for his meeting on the 12th for OFA.
Fellow Ohioans, let’s vote these morons out of office.

@myrenovations, Tom Ganley is running for Senator. He spoke at the Cleveland Tea Party in July.

Jason58 on August 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM

This might make it all come into focus for y’all…

With all my heartfelt appreciation for those wonderful Texans.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Frankly, you’d have to be an idiot to give townhall protesters a chance to make the news.

Pick your poisen time. Either give them up or let the protesters steal the headlines.

AnninCA on August 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Man, Palin’s healthcare statement today is right on, bingo, and a winner.

AnninCA on August 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM

She even makes ME rethink public option. *haha

(no, not giving it up yet!)

AnninCA on August 14, 2009 at 1:34 PM

@myrenovations, Tom Ganley is running for Senator. He spoke at the Cleveland Tea Party in July.

Jason58 on August 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Yes, I had forgotten about that. At least Ganley is speaking out and meeting with the voters. We could do a whole lot worse than elect a businessman to the Senate.

myrenovations on August 14, 2009 at 1:34 PM

***
Senator Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) can run–but he can’t hide from his 2012 re-election.
***
The American People will do a Muhammed Ali style hit on him then.
***
John Bibb
***

rocketman on August 14, 2009 at 1:34 PM

He can kiss his job goodbye in 2010.

bluelightbrigade on August 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM

He isn’t up for re-election until 2012. “You People” in Ohio need to get a Republican to fill the open Republican seat which is up for grabs in 2010. The Antique Repub who is retiring needs to be replaced by an actual conservative Republican who will actually vote Right.

Janos Hunyadi on August 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM

AnninCA on August 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM

AnninCA on August 14, 2009 at 1:34 PM

I just don’t get you Ann…

:P

bluelightbrigade on August 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Janos Hunyadi on August 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Thanks for the correction, and I agree.

+1

bluelightbrigade on August 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

AnninCA on August 14, 2009 at 1:34 PM

three posts in a row, two of them OT and none of them worthwhile.

Have you realized yet that you’re too dim and too self-absorbed to post on this blog? You embarrass yourself more and more…….

Janos Hunyadi on August 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

So we now have the “C” word, the “S” word and the “N” word?

I’d like to buy a vowel, Pat.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 12:48 PM

How about making the “O” word derogatory?
(and I ain’t talkin’ about Oprah either)

VibrioCocci on August 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM

I’m not an expert but

Basically, in September the financial system collapsed and it took the global economy with it. What our government did to stave off catastrophic collapse (bank runs, food shortages, etc) was put our grand children in hock by borrowing a couple trillion dollars to place a “floor” on the collapse. The problem was all those “toxic assets” the Banks had that led to the over leveraging which finally imploded when the Fed started pulling liquidity from the market.

Most of those original toxic assets are still owned by the banks and the systemic collapse of other asset classes and loans has added to the losses in these banks. The banks are covering up their balance sheets with the complicity of the government in order to keep a modicum of normality. In many cases these banks are not following through on foreclosures of delinquent loans in order not have to list the loss on their balance sheets.

Unfortunately, when the losses keep mounting these banks are not only at zero capitalization they actually are in deep red. That’s why at some point no matter how much money the feds pumped into them they have to be seized because they are beyond insolvent. So there has been an average of 3-7 banks collapse every Friday this year.

What is coming is that there is a number of coming problems in the form of Commercial real estate loans (huge losses)that have collapsed and 5 year ARM residential mortgages (even bigger) that reset next year. And to make matters worse there’s a new subprime crisis coming too.

What the government had hoped was that they could pump a couple of trillion dollars into the banks at zero percent interest and that they would turn around and lend it to all of us at high interest so that they could sit on those losses for a few years until they were not losses anymore.

That hasn’t happened because no one is spending. They are afraid of losing jobs, higher taxes, Obama policies etc.

The lie that Obama saved the financial sector is going to come back to haunt him.

anyway go here and dig around to get the down and dirty from an expert.

elduende on August 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I am interested in seeing how John Kasich will do against
Ted Strickland in the Govenors race in Ohio. Not sure how
Strickland got elected. Real wishy washy person.
State Rep. Tim Ryan is also a piece of work in my district.
THEY BLINDLY TOW THE DEMOCRATIC LINE.
The elections can’t get here fast enough.

elderberry on August 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Vashta and Elduende, what are you expecting to come down the pike?

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM

I am expecting 20+% decline before end October.

Vashta.Nerada on August 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Yeah, that is my senator, hopefully not after 2010.

Sherrod stopped answering my messages after I got the stock health care reply from my first message. I will keep writing.

Don56 on August 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Thanks, Elduende.

My gut-level understanding of the situation is this: our economy operates on trust. If people don’t/can’t trust the system we all just hoard what we have because we have no faith that investment will be worth the trouble. When Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac took bad loans and marketed them as though they were good ones the stock market operated under a government-induced lie. The lie was becoming obvious because banks were in danger of going out of business, stuck with crap that had been labelled gold.

So the government stepped in to try to fix everything by throwing taxpayer money at it – not only ignoring that the real issue was trust, but actually confirming that government is absolutely untrustworthy and we are powerless to keep from becoming communist.

Since January Obama’s been doing everything he can to make America communist and businesses with half a brain are going off-coast or to Europe, which is now beginning to recover because they’ve taken action to restore trust, as opposed to America where nobody wants to be the last person to buy stock before we turn communist.

So Americans are losing jobs and holding on to whatever money they have – which hurts businesses even more. And all the while Obama is pushing to take more and more of our money and crushing any hope that we have that maybe we were just imagining his communist thuggery. And all the while Congress, who should be trying to instill confidence, is instead calling us terrorists and refusing to either talk to us or read the crap Obama wants them to enact.

Do I have it pretty much accurate?

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Ohioans,

Focus first on the open seat. Portman vs. Brunner/Fisher.

Portman needs all the support you can give him. He’s one hell of a solid candidate, and Brunner and Fisher have been tripping over themselves since they jumped into the race.

Stay focused. Let’s win this.

DJ Tablesauce on August 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Vashta, would that mean Depression-era type job losses and long-term outlook? What would it take for us to come out of it?

Somebody noticed that whenever Obama’s approval numbers dip, the Dow goes up. If the markets believed that Obama’s policies would not get passed, would hope come back, or is it too late for us to ever go back to how it was before the crash?

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM

I am interested in seeing how John Kasich will do against
Ted Strickland in the Govenors race in Ohio. Not sure how
Strickland got elected. Real wishy washy person.
State Rep. Tim Ryan is also a piece of work in my district.

elderberry on August 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Strickland’s election was made easy by Taft being such an awful Republican and the corrption scandals around his administration. Not to mention the fact that Ken Blackwell was demonized for “stealing” the 2004 election for Bush. Also demonized for not being authentically black.

I think Kasich is going to run well against Strickland and 2010 is going to be as bad a year to be a Democrat as 2008 was to be a Republican.

myrenovations on August 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Do I have it pretty much accurate?

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM

That is it my friend. It all boils down to perceptions and trust. When you are being pinched by economic conditions on one side and terrible leadership on the other (even if its only the perception), there is no mystery how normal folks are going to react.

This story is, unfortunately for our nation and us, to be continued.

elduende on August 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM

We’re not going to go back to the way it was. We were living in an asset bubble that we have no way of replicating unless some sort of new catalyst emerges like a new energy source (cold fusion).

Most of the job losses are permanent. The government (not Obama) is forecasting unemployment to remain north of 8% thorugh 2012. The only thing they are trying to hang their hat on in the way of job creation is these supposed “green jobs”. So in other words forget it.

elduende on August 14, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Elderberry,I’m in the same district dealing with the incompetence of the same pack of imbeciles, who can’t even recognize that 30 black kids attacking a white family shouting “it’s a black world now” qualifies as a hate crime.I’m seriously considering going to Texas as it seems thats the only state with companies hiring machinist’s.

McBride on August 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Senator Sherrod Brown: I’m not meeting with the voters, they’re revolting! I liked ruling a lot better without meeting the damned people.

Tantor on August 14, 2009 at 2:38 PM

If they want to stifle dissent, let them. Means we all should pay a visit to D.C. I think we can get 5 million out of the 43 million people who didn’t vote for Obama to show up and gridlock the city for days on end. They keep claiming Katrina was Bush’s disaster, let’s see how the “ONE” handles 5 million pissed off Americans camping out in his front yard…………

adamsmith on August 14, 2009 at 2:49 PM

haha what a little weenie
congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee needs to call this baby on her cell phone and tell him how real people do townhalls-here’s to the voters in Ohio, stay energized to protest louder and longer and bigger- and when the bullyboys/girls show up stand close to the policeman and keep the cameras rolling-

classof73 on August 14, 2009 at 2:54 PM

The ACORN doesn’t fall far from the tree. From Sherrod “sniveling coward” Brown’s wiki bio:

Brown’s daughter Emily works for the Service Employees International Union

Buy Danish on August 14, 2009 at 2:57 PM

And here’s a predictably idiotic column from Brown’s Pulitzer Prize winning wife, Connie Shultz – “Opponents of health care reform want you to be afraid, be very afraid.”

Buy Danish on August 14, 2009 at 3:05 PM

dominigan on August 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM

No disagreement…you are correct.

GOP only takes three keystrokes, vs. 12 for conservative.

Just being efficient. It’s the conservative in me.

connertown on August 14, 2009 at 3:08 PM

elduende on August 14, 2009 at 2:26 PM

I was employed with a human resources consulting firm for high-end clients. Business was booming until shortly before this crisis hit. When they let a bunch of us go they said they hoped to be able to re-hire us if/when the crisis was resolved and business was up again.

Are you saying that basically we’ll not gain those jobs back because the demand won’t be there?

If the healthcare and cap and trade were to pass, I wonder if there would be any businesses which could make a profit.

My two brothers are both small family farmers. Even just the current expectations of the EPA could put them out of business. If cap and tax were to go through it would also put out of business larger farms. So what then? If it’s not profitable to farm, what are we all gonna eat? We have to eat. Food prices could go up, but generally that doesn’t help the farmers much.

For every “green job” they come up with at least as many will be lost. For every organic farmer put into business by the EPA standards there will be at least 5 farmers who go under because they can’t afford to have the rootworms and grasshoppers eat up all their non-pesticide crop. Food prices will go up because there will be less food, and half of what would normally be produced will be lost to insects. So we’ll have unemployed farmers needing to pay an arm and a leg just for food because the government has made it so hard to produce a profitable amount of food.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Seem to be a lot of Ohioans on here interested in how the GOP is doing and the Strickland mess.

If you’re interested, feel free to check out my blog, Third Base Politics, that analyzes what’s going on in Ohio, as well as a little talk about national issues.

DJ Tablesauce on August 14, 2009 at 3:31 PM

myrenovations on August 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM

I guess I just can’t believe a person with Strickland’s personality or lack there of was able to get elected. Can’t wait for 2010.

McBride on August 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM

A company in Youngstown is always looking for machinists
with CNC experience. Google Exal in Youngstown.
Drop off a resume in person.

elderberry on August 14, 2009 at 3:40 PM

I live in Ohio and I contacted his office and got no reply. It angers me that I was not contacted about this round-table discussion as it happened only feet from where I work and I would have made myself available in protest. They are not listening, and now they are hiding.

Osis on August 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

I saw buses driving onto OSU campus, only then did I realize that there was an event that they were busing people into a political forum. If they would have opened it up the the public’s knowledge it would not have been good for Mr. Brown.

Osis on August 14, 2009 at 3:59 PM

So Obama’s people bussed in OFA people for this event, Osis?

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 4:05 PM

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 4:05 PM

A better question.

In the past few weeks, when have they not bussed in ACORN, SEIU, or OFA?

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Portman & Kasich would be a one-two punch for Ohio. Neither are RINO’s. They are both fiscal conservatives and could do much to bring the state back on its financial feet. C’mon 2010!!

buzdburd on August 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

Sure enough this is now quickly becomming
an US (meaning all of the US citizens) VS
Them (meaning the democrats and their hand picket constituants)

So what this really says is
ONly IF you support obama
Only IF you support the bs health care
Only IF you support climate change BS bills
Only IF you support making illegals citizens

will you then (A LEGAL US CITIZEN) be allowed
to even talk to your own senator
who is supposed to represent you..

Veyr soon folks it isnt obama
that must be removed
it is all 535 commanders in cheif..

I mean ALL of them ..
throw them all out of office NOW.

They are all traitors and are going to destroy our country..
They are working for our enemies and must be stopped

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

veteranoutrage on August 14, 2009 at 4:30 PM

EVERYBODY be at DC on 9/12!

Sapwolf on August 14, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Thanks for the heads up elderberry.

McBride on August 14, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Sherrod Brown’s one of my two Senators, and he campaigned saying he was going to listen to concerns of Ohioans more than former Senator DeWine. He also said he would do everything he could to protect the jobs and benefits of Ohioans. This health care town hall shows that he’s unfortunately not listening to Ohioans anymore. If he was, he’d be taking open questions on health care and he also wouldn’t be playing games with the upcoming Cap & Trade bill. Brown said he would protect jobs and manufacturing but he’s ignoring the concerns of those industries in Ohio. Senator Brown obviously wants to take some action to address “global warming”, as that was part of his platform too, but if he does it by undercutting his promise to fight for Ohio jobs and the middle, I think that’s wrong. There has to be a better way.

JustinHiggins on August 14, 2009 at 5:16 PM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM
That’s the story the media should be bringing to light. All the talk about whether the angry mobs were real, when the Obama supporters are being bused in. I’d like to find out more about the “intern” who said they told him not to talk to anybody…

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 5:26 PM

I am interested in seeing how John Kasich will do against
Ted Strickland in the Govenors race in Ohio. Not sure how
Strickland got elected. Real wishy washy person.
State Rep. Tim Ryan is also a piece of work in my district.
THEY BLINDLY TOW THE DEMOCRATIC LINE.
The elections can’t get here fast enough.

elderberry on August 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Ryan is the 17th district congressman who doesn’t have the time for silly townhalls but provides facts vs myths on his site…bad thing is he believes in his own myths but because his voting bloc is true blue here in NE Ohio he answers only to his party,Ryan is a coward and if this district keeps voting him in then we deserve what we get.Charlie Wilson 6th district who splits the region with Ryan is also a coward
no townhalls just op eds and teleconferences.Two sorry pieces of work at work.

raceroh on August 14, 2009 at 6:48 PM

How is it that Betty Sutton’s been flying under the radar here? She’s more liberal than Brown OR Ryan!

Here’s the deal with Ohio: if you look at the voting ‘map’ from the 2008 election, Republicans won the footprint of the state. The left took all of the major urban areas, which is how they, and Barry O, won.

Since there won’t be an ‘urban’ Precident running in 2010, the right-or, God help us, and Independent-has every opportunity to take a number of spots up for grabs.

HAnthonyWayne on August 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM

In other Ohio Democrat news…Jim Trafficant will be released from prison in a few weeks.

Bet the Dem voters in Youngstown will get him elected to House again. Or at least try.

coldwarrior on August 15, 2009 at 12:05 AM

I live in Cuyahoga County, Ohio and my so-called Congressmen are Sen. Sherrod Brown, Sen. George Voinovich, and Rep. Dennis Kucinich.

Brown and Kucinich are so far to the left, they’re falling off the freakin’ bridge. Kucinich has always supported single-payer health insurance. Brown is an Obie-Won a**kisser. I wouldn’t trust either one as far as I could pick up Me-Shell and throw her across the room.

Voinovich is basically worthless now that he’s retiring (plus he voted for the “Wisest Latina Woman evah” to be on the Supreme Court).

In 2012 Democrats Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher and Secty. of State Jennifer Brunner will face off in the 2010 primary. Both of them are raving liberals and Fisher supports everything POTUS says and does and has gone on record in support of Barkey Oblah-blahs Health Care Reform.

Rob Portman is the fave with the Ohio and National R’s to replace Voinovich, so Tom Ganley may not stick it out in the long haul. Portman was the budget director and trade representative for GWB. I’d definitely vote for Ganley. He’s pro-life, pro-guns, against illegal immigration, pro securing our borders, and against nationalized health care. To read his platform and send it viral, go here:

http://tomganley.com/index.cfm?p=About

Haven’t heard from my contacts if Kucinich is going to run again. Maybe Jim Trakas (a great guy; conservative R; pro-life, former State Rep, and totally against Barkey’s statism) will take another run at Kucinich. Trakas is staying visible and speaking at Cleveland Tea Party events. I’m going to contact him and ask him what his plans might be. Maybe I can talk him into doing a townhall meeting.

While Dennis managed to win in 2008, he got the lowest vote count he ever had. I’m hoping the voters are going to kick him to the curb in 2010, especially since he wouldn’t hold a townhall meeting with the seniors, who have always been his strongest voting group. But his base is strong and loyal, and he’s always good for at least 40%.

To see the complete list of the 2010 Ohio elections and who’s declared to date, go here: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G10/OH

GrannyDee on August 15, 2009 at 1:25 AM

Hope and Change you can believe in huh?

bullshit

bluegrass on August 16, 2009 at 11:28 AM

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