Fairness Doctrine Raises Its Ugly Head Under New FCC “Diversity Czar”

posted at 8:47 am on August 14, 2009 by Rovin

What’s a poor liberal progressive to do when the radio airwaves are dominated by conservative talk and they can’t seem to “get a word in”? Why not diversify it? After Dan Rather got hammered recently for suggesting the news media needs a public handout, now on the horizon is an FCC Diversity Czar calling for private broadcasting companies to fund public broadcasting companies their total operating cost. Matt Cover at CNSNEWS.COM files this report:

(CNSNews.com) – Mark Lloyd, newly appointed Chief Diversity Officer of the Federal Communications Commission, has called for making private broadcasting companies pay licensing fees equal to their total operating costs to allow public broadcasting outlets to spend the same on their operations as the private companies do. LINK

Lloyd not only wants the money to come from private companies, he is planning on regulating the content:

“Local public broadcasters and regional and national communications operations should be required to encourage and broadcast diverse views and programs,” wrote Lloyd. “These programs should include coverage of all local, state and federal government meetings, as well as daily news and public issues programming.  (see link above for complete story)

Pravda anyone?

Lloyd wrote a book back in 2006 that must have caught someone in the Obama administration’s eye titled Prologue to a Farce: Communications and Democracy in America, published by the University of Illinois Press. Matt Cover explains that “Lloyd wrote Prologue to a Farce while a senior fellow at the liberal Center for American Progress. In that capacity, he co-authored the 2007 report The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio”

The report argued that large corporate broadcasting networks had driven liberals off the radio, and that diversity of ownership would increase diversity of broadcasting voices

Did you catch that?  These unfortunate liberals have been “driven” off the radio.  Why wait for the liberals to produce a fairness doctrine when you’ve got a Diversity Czar under the White House’s thumb?

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Thanks TXMomof3. But really, don’t thank me. I never know what to say to that. BTW I will not be there on 9/12/2009 because I deploy in October and I will be spending that time at home.

Sorry.

sonofdy on August 14, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Do you get a sense that “diversity czar” is really just an attempt at self-parody? If Palin had looked at, say, an FCC Commissioner On Equal Access and sarcastically dubbed him a “diversity czar,” the AP would be publishing Fact Checks about how Obama doesn’t really have a diversity czar at all. MSNBC would devote whole segments to the rights’ fear tactics.

But if they come right out and say it first, where do we go from here? They actually have “diversity czars” now – centralized redistribution of… er… people’s attention?

omriceren on August 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Your initials aren’t MJ are they?

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Point taken. My primary point is that this is just the author’s opinion from a book he wrote. I share everyone’s concerns that he may actually propose it as legislation or executive dictate…but he hasn’t yet.

Also, wouldn’t the funding scheme he outlines be a tax that would need legislative approval?

tbradshaw on August 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM

sonofdy on August 14, 2009 at 10:51 AM

I also thank you for your service. You don’t have to answer this but I wonder if you think this is coming (and I hope not) and the military, from what I have gathered, is frustrated by their CIC restricting them in their ability to engage will they eventually look for an out to defend the people over their orders from their CIC.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Why would his grandparents allow him to hang around with a child predator as a mentor? I am careful to the point of craziness about who I allow around my children. We know nothing about this man. I have a feeling that we are going to find out though.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Look at the bright side of this.
If Clear Channel, Entercom CBS and the other broadcast groups have to diversify, there is no reason it HAS to be at the cost of conservative talk content.
In fact, it most likely will not be Rush or Beck or any of the others.
These shows make money. period.

It would most likely be one of their cookie-cutter music formats that are beamed in, voice tracked and automated. Every market has a dead-horse station ( or 2 ) that could be sacrificed to this diversity programming.

I would actually enjoy hearing and seeing ‘diversity’ programming going through it’s many changes. Imagine the meetings that would be held to discuss what is in the community interest. Imagine the inspired programming that is a city council meeting filled with lunatics that want to be ‘heard’ on the radio. Given the right opportunity, even some of you could apply and get your own radio show.

We all would have the opportunity to tune in or use the off switch as we so desire.

–TAC

thataintchicken on August 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM

We won’t institute the Fairness Doctrine by a vote in Congress where you can hold us accountable, we’ll have an unelected arbitrary czar make those decisions for us. But there will be no Fairness Doctrine.

cadams on August 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Sonofdy, I think you’re right.

“Plain old murder” becomes something else if it’s on somebody the CIC has already declared to be an enemy combatant, right? Like the Director of Homeland Security saying supporters of limited government are terrorists – would a soldier have the place of calling Janet Napolitano a liar and her orders to fire on “terrorists” murder?

We can’t have soldiers questioning everything, but what if what is “obviously wrong” is also the current view of the administration? Does it stop being obviously wrong then? There’s a LOT right now that is obviously wrong but nobody is authorized to make it stop. So far nobody is even allowed answers regarding legality because they can never establish “standing” to ask the questions.

I do think these questions are imminent, mostly because I see Obama’s regime lining up all the elements of such a scenario before our very eyes. But legally our hands are tied because the AG refuses to investigate anything and Congress won’t listen to anybody. If we take the issues into our own hands we will be labelled “terrorists” and the military could be authorized to kill us if law enforcement doesn’t imprison us first.

It’s a sad, sad state of affairs. When you take away the legal channels for grievances to be redressed you pretty much force the society to be either lapdogs or violent.

I do not envy you your position at all.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM

No but you got half of it right. My aunt had a little house there that I spent every available minute. Even when I was playing baseball at Angelina Jr College I would make the drive any chance I got. But that was in the early 80′s.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Forgive my ADD moment but…
1) I like the way Rush plays The Won’s speeches on that fast, helium sound track. It makes the monotony and lies go faster.
2) Someone posted that the Red River might actually become the southern border for America one day. I’m thinking that the Red River would be the northern border for America because we should get to keep the name. The Marxists would probably want to re-name themselves Obamaland or something anyway.

redwhiteblue on August 14, 2009 at 11:05 AM

BTW I will not be there on 9/12/2009 because I deploy in October and I will be spending that time at home.

Sorry.

sonofdy on August 14, 2009 at 11:00 AM

God bless you and keep you and your men safe. I have the utmost respect for anyone who is willing to serve our country. I hope that our political activism will make some small contribution to keeping our country on the right path.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 11:06 AM

NO THREAD ON THE COMPANIES BOYCOTTING BECK???

Jeff from WI on August 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Is it just me, or does this seem odd?
Usually people boycott companies who engage in things that they don’t agree with.

But now you have companies boycotting a popular voice of the people.
It just seems strange to me.

Itchee Dryback on August 14, 2009 at 11:08 AM

sonofdy on August 14, 2009 at 10:57 AM

If things were to descend into armed confrontation…and the domestic situation become chaotic, the Chinese could inflict major damage across the board by dumping dollars by the billions and buying other currencies from “more stable” nations. That in itself would add to our domestic chaos as we would approach Weimar conditions.

After we became a united Nation, under the Constitution, the very first application of the US military was to put down a domestic rebellion in western Pennsylvania, the Whiskey Rebellion. We have grown greatly since then, and our armed forces today are far far better than our army back then. But the question remains, if there is civil disorder or the Administration believes there to be the threat of civil disorder, starting with the national guard, the military will be called in to quell disturbances. Might be under the guise of protective measures re: H1N1, or it may be small deployments to stop “violence” or prevent “violence.”

But, I’d not rule that out. There will be a call to use the military to restore order.

When that happens, China would not sit back. They may not consider direct involvement, but they may indeed bail on the dollar…and then try to pick up the pieces later, after they own our economy, or what may be left of it.

These are the guys who brought us Sun T’zu…some pretty smart cookies, them Chinese.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Licensing fees equal to total Operating Cost! Regulated Content? Total support for Public radio.

Here is the point where many will start shooting. This is the 1st Amendment gag so vast and so complete that we will never be rid of it. This is why so many said the 2nd Amendment guards all the other Amendments. Well, here we are. An unelected “Czar” is going to completely decapitate the Conservative movement in one blow. Talk radio/ Internet is the ears, eyes and voice of the people. By regulating content (You can’t post videos of protesters but you can post Government approved videos of applauding masses, filtering phone calls and hand selecting hosts) you have rendered the 1st completely mute, blind and deaf.

GunRunner on August 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM

2) Someone posted that the Red River might actually become the southern border for America one day. I’m thinking that the Red River would be the northern border for America because we should get to keep the name. The Marxists would probably want to re-name themselves Obamaland or something anyway.

redwhiteblue on August 14, 2009 at 11:05 AM

That would be our good friend HoustonRight.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 11:08 AM

My dad told me the other night about sleeping sitting up on their packs ready to go into Boston to restore order in case of riots from Vietnam protesters.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM

That would be our good friend HoustonRight.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM

It’s good to be in Texas. Really, really good.

redwhiteblue on August 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM

tbradshaw on August 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Not familiar with the FCC regulations already on the books. But if there is just one clause, one small paragraph that would enable the FCC under the direction of a “diversity” czar top act, the Administration would take every opportunity to utilize such, regardless. Transfer of funds within an agency is what the agency head and the comptroller of that agency do for a living, unless there is a specific proscription against such written in law. Even then, over the years, I have seen funding being moved from one program to another as routine, despite what the wording of any proscription by Congress may be.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM

It’s good to be in Texas. Really, really good.

redwhiteblue on August 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM

I’d like to think we are special. Then again, my husband thinks I’m nuts.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 11:14 AM

But there will be no Fairness Doctrine.

cadams on August 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Willing to bet your next 36 months pay on that one?

Me? Not as sanguine.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 11:14 AM

It’s good to be in Texas. Really, really good.

redwhiteblue on August 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Yes it is!

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM

To be fair, this is not something currently on the congressional docket. As the root article stated, these are the guy’s proposals from his book.

The ideas are ludicrous and completely antithetical to a free society. But some of the outrage should be save for when some form of the Czar’s ideas are actually put before Congress.

tbradshaw on August 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM

I was going to respond directly to this comment but coldwarrior took care of this:

tbradshaw on August 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM
This presumes that Obama must go to Congress to do damage. Federal agencies, such as the FCC, belong to the Executive branch.

Under existing law, or a highly-nuanced reading of current law and regulations, and the FCC is not the only government agency known for this sort of thing, Obama and his many czars could, by Executive order, or select application of existing law and regulations, do major serious long-lasting damage long before any member of Congress could have the opportunity to stand in the House or Senate well and ask “WTF?”

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Thanks CW………Rov

Rovin on August 14, 2009 at 11:16 AM

But there will be no Fairness Doctrine.

cadams on August 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Of course they won’t call it that, but you can be sure there will be a diversity doctrine of some kind.

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM

That’s just it. The filthy liar in the White House is creating a shadow government of czars, all of whom have direct loyalty to the filthy liar himself and no Congressional confirmation process. It is the perfect way to prepare to take over government and suspend the rule of law. I’m not suggesting that is what the filthy liar is doing but I’m concerned over the number of unelected/unconfirmed loyalists who have huge powers when it comes to effecting everyday life.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM

What I don’t understand is how any of the alphabet media would be considered to have enough “diversity” in their programming to not have to fund NPR also.

But then, the people administrating get to decide the definitions I suppose. People who love the Constitution will never administer this because they would know it’s unconstitutional, so the only people who would ever administer it are ones who think Olbermann and Matthews are fair and neutral (or maybe even sane).

Sigh.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Free market: Bad. Effects of free market capitalism: Evil.
With this overriding philosophy, it’s no wonder this convoluted thinking takes hold in the warped minds of statists and progressives. God help us.

SKYFOX on August 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM

redwhiteblue on August 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Was born here and here is where I plan to rest.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 11:25 AM

To them diversity means freedom to broadcast Obama speeches and to cheer and applaud them.

Tell me how that isn’t nazi like?

wildcat84 on August 14, 2009 at 11:26 AM

This seems to be ‘strategery” in action.

While most of the nation is focused on getting by, barely, day to day, and the rest are focused on the Health care Health Insurance Obamacare whatever protests, Obama continues to trot out more of his blitzkrieg-like programs, overwhelming the ability of most citizens, if not all of us, to keep track of and keep up with the deluge.

Since 20 January, Obama has trotted out dozens and dozens of proposals and has signed numerous executive orders or enabling documents across the board reaching into every aspect of our lives.

No other President in my lifetime has done such.

This is not the efforts of a bumbling boob. There is a method to his seeming madness.

Healthy skepticism is being ridiculed by the usual suspects, and, I must add, within our own ranks at times.

Fracture, and overwhelm…seems a good strategy, albeit, it in this case, the Obamanation, it is all for malevolent purposes.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 11:26 AM

SKYFOX on August 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM

He’s trying. Putting the proverbial cattle prod under some butts.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Also, wouldn’t the funding scheme he outlines be a tax that would need legislative approval?

tbradshaw on August 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM

No, there are certain executive powers routinely used by bureaucrats to enact regulations. They are not generated by the legislature, but carry weight and must be followed. Here in CA, the Fish and Game Commission, a 5 person panel, almost outlawed all lead ammunition in the state. Had it passed, everyone and every agency would have had to follow the new regulation – not passed or reviewed by the legislature.

InTheBellyoftheBeast on August 14, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Does this mean more alternative jazz on the radio? Surely getting someone interesting doesn’t take a price, it just takes looking at people other than the liberals they have on there.

ALTernative781 on August 14, 2009 at 11:38 AM

I don’t want to own firearms again, but you’re all too right. After this topic, I’m considering calling my county sheriff’s office to find out what I need for approval of an application for a gun permit.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 9:15 AM

Hmmm… looks like your right to bear arms has been infringed.

Scouter on August 14, 2009 at 11:42 AM

(CNSNews.com) – Mark Lloyd, newly appointed Chief Diversity Officer of the Federal Communications Commission, has called for making private broadcasting companies pay licensing fees equal to their total operating costs to allow public broadcasting outlets to spend the same on their operations as the private companies do.

So, if I understand this correctly, the Government would charge private broadcasting companies license fees equal to their operating costs to fund “public” broadcasting. This would instantly double the operating costs for the private companies, and they would be forced to double their advertising rates, in order to fund NPR, which has very few listeners.

But since Mark Lloyd has never been confirmed by the Senate, does he have the right to do this? Considering that this would double the operating costs of ALL private radio broadcasters, this could be grounds for a massive class-action lawsuit against the FCC, which would probably be heard by the Supreme Court due to First Amendment implications…

Steve Z on August 14, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Steve Z on August 14, 2009 at 11:43 AM

I like commenters that are smarter than I am.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Scouter on August 14, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Almost. The States seem to have the power to regulate, but not necessarily outlaw, private ownership of firearms. Far as I know, this has gone unchallenged for 230 years. Localities in the Old West outlawed carrying of weapons until the owner departed town and collected his firearm from the constable on the way out.

I don’t like the set-up here in NY but I’m stuck until the people overturn current laws.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I’m not sleeping

I just have a better grasp of reality

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

I hear Venezuelans have been saying the same thing since 1998.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM

They don’t get it. We are marching on Washington because of TARP, PORKULUS, CAP & TAX, OBAMACARE, GOVERNMENT MOTORS, GOVERNMENT BANK, ACORN, PROPAGANDA MEDIA

Christian Conservative on August 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM

And they think we are going to sit by while they try to take Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Levin, etc. off the air? I don’t think so! They are signing their own resignation slip!

Christian Conservative on August 14, 2009 at 11:59 AM

“Local public broadcasters and regional and national communications operations should be required to encourage and broadcast diverse views and programs,” wrote Lloyd.

Diverse views and programs? …..”WABC announces the ‘Rev. Wright Program: Hate white people? Believe that AIDS was created by the white man to infect the black man? Believe that the president sat in a racist church for twenty years and never heard racist views? Believe that chickens DO INDEED come home to roost? Then, this show is for you. Join us Monday thru Friday from three a.m. to four a.m. for the Rev. Wright Racist Hour.”
Stations that carry successful shows like the Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity shows can use the ‘diversity programs’ as a tax write off when they fail.

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 12:02 PM

I hear Venezuelans have been saying the same thing since 1998.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Please, lay off.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Unreal. With this appointment there should be not a shred of doubt left that Obama is a stone cold Marxist.

NPR, who would directly benefit from this Stalinist attempt at “diversity”, should sell these at their next fundraiser to cover their operating expenses, and leave private broadcasting free. (It’s oh, so fitting that Paul Robeson won the Stalin Peace Prize.)

Buy Danish on August 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 12:02 PM

To once again raise the issue why Rush sells and Air America did not…and to address why government choosing what is “diverse” or not is a danger…

If this “diversity” thing is emplaced…can we expect equal required-by-government air time for the David Duke Variety Hour? Or the Kid’s KKK Kamp Karnival?

[Not that I'd advocate for any of these. Let's be clear on that little item.]

But, who actually will be defining government-approved “diversity?”

And what is going to be defined as government-acceptable “diversity?”

Infotainment, political infotainment, in which category Rush falls, rises or disappears because of the choices of the listeners…to tune in or change the dial. Hence, Air America pretty much disappeared because even in the most liberal-abundant, leftist-rich media markets, it never got a following that paid when you got to the bottom line.

It is in our right to free speech that Rush and Hannity and all the others are obligated to their listeners…to produce quality, informative and entertaining programming. If they fail in this, they go off the air. Air America, to once again cite this abysmal failure, was not of high quality, was not informative (unless you like repeated false memes) and sure as hell wasn’t entertaining….harping and bitching 24/7 is not entertainment. Thus, they failed.

What is so damn difficult for people to understand about this?

Government telling us what to listen to is not a smart move by government. It will backfire on them. As it should.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Two cogent postings…just disappeared.

Government weasels at work in a hidden bunker under the FCC building?

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Our pal Ronin kinda scares me.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Now three posts disappeared…

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Please, lay off.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Please lay off? Huh? Lay off what exactly? WTF?
Is this your own version of the Fairness Doctrine?

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I hope you were expounding on my ‘comment’…..I agree, free market should extend to our airwaves. If these douchebags can’t make it in the big boy’s pool, stay in the kiddie pool. And the gov’t shouldn’t give them a show.
…..with the obama admin and as many people that hate Rush and Sean, I figure this will be easy to implement….you know, for diversity and all….I hope to hell it doesn’t!

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

I am sure someone already stated this but here we go with STATE RUN MEDIA! If the opposing ideology can’t stand on it’s own feet, government is here to change that.

AASLT on August 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Please, lay off.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Please lay off? Huh? Lay off what exactly? WTF?
Is this your own version of the Fairness Doctrine?

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Piss. Off. Mom was trying to be nice. I’m not nice.

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM

The governors don’t seem to be happy either with the idea of the Sec of Defense, President being in control of Reserve troops during a “weather/natural disaster” emergency. And we have reserve troops training for an H1N1 public riot. And we have a new FCC tsar. Just from my view there has been either personnel shift or mindset shift within the top ranks of the military over use of troops within the US.

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us_military_reserve_dispute/2009/08/13/247544.html

I hope Mother Nature stays calm the next 4 years and doesn’t force this issue.

Stay safe all of you going to DC. My dad’s bd is the 11th and he is not in great health so I will be celebrating with him. You are giving a lot of info- hotels where you will be staying,dates your in DC, airlines, rental cars, locations of friends homes, where you might meet up, a HA tshirt possibly being designed, khaki pants, blazer, ages etc over a website that anyone can read. Maybe a little opsec is in order?

journeyintothewhirlwind on August 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Piss. Off. Mom was trying to be nice. I’m not nice.

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Piss off what exactly? Was it really a tough question?

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Piss. Off. Mom was trying to be nice. I’m not nice.

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Piss off what exactly? Was it really a tough question?

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Do you need help? It wasn’t a tough request?

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:12 PM

I have read the posts and have no idea what this Gregor/TXmom/Hornet tiff is all about.

Disturb the Universe on August 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM

journeyintothewhirlwind on August 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM Maybe a little opsec is in order?

Yes, who would have thought we would need to guard against those on the left who would wish to harm us… very sad day.

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Maybe a little opsec is in order?

journeyintothewhirlwind on August 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Shhh! It is all maskirovka. :-)

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 1:15 PM

coldwarrior

coldwarrior, I just looked up maskirovka! Cool word! I am learning so much from these comments! :-)

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

journeyintothewhirlwind on August 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Just between you and me, I’ll be wearing a kaffiya and a purple t-shirt, slightly torn, a few spots iron-based liquid and DNA on it that I picked up off an SEIU guy that got in my face…once. :-)

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Do you need help? It wasn’t a tough request?

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:12 PM

You’re right. It wasn’t a tough request. It was a very simple question. “Lay off what exactly?”

Since you can’t answer it, and apparently she can’t either … I’ll just continue on. Is that okay with you dumbass?

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Do you need help? It wasn’t a tough request?

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Thanks again, Hornet. Dang, I leave for lunch to get a little Rush in and some other guy freaks. I must be really abrasive.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM

I’ve recently realized that the Dems probably won’t ever get rid of Rush. He’s their #1 whipping boy!

Any time they get in trouble, they invoke the name of the boogeyman–Rush Limbaugh.

They need him.

tsj017 on August 14, 2009 at 8:56 AM

No, these people are stupid and think this will help them. They project all their worst practices on conservatives. Since they need to tell their “sheeple” what to do, bus them in, make signs for them, etc., they project that’s what conservatives do to get us organized as well. Without Rush, Hannity, and Levin sending us secret emails and telepathy, telling us what to do, where to go, what to say, etc., we would be just as docile as their own people and ObamaCare, Crap and Trade, etc., would pass without a problem. I’d bet they’re mad at themselves for not going after this first.

PatMac on August 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM

NOW I have got to look up ‘kaffiya’! Darn, I am tired of flipping through this thick dictionary! :-)

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

A#$hole, I was not ignoring or hiding from you, I was at lunch. Lose the attitude. You are talking to a woman. I have the right to say anything I like and you cannot do anything about it.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:23 PM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:23 PM

You go girl!

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Do you need help? It wasn’t a tough request?

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:12 PM
You’re right. It wasn’t a tough request. It was a very simple question. “Lay off what exactly?”

Since you can’t answer it, and apparently she can’t either … I’ll just continue on. Is that okay with you dumbass?

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

You want to look like an idiot, knock yourself out….

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Disturb the Universe on August 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Me neither.

Al in St. Lou on August 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Disturb the Universe on August 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Me neither.

Al in St. Lou on August 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Check out TxMomof3 posts….she doesn’t deserve to be attacked by Gregor…

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM

A#$hole, I was not ignoring or hiding from you, I was at lunch. Lose the attitude. You are talking to a woman. I have the right to say anything I like and you cannot do anything about it.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:23 PM

HAHA! That’s classic. Figure the irony of this. I make a comment in response to someone else and you, having nothing to do with that comment, tell me to “lay off.” The comment you replied to was not an attack, but a simple comment pointing out that Venezuelans have been sitting around doing nothing while Hugo takes every freedom away from them.

So my question to you was simple. I simply asked … “lay off what?”

Apparently, YOU have the right to say anything you want, but if someone disagrees with you … they’re to shut up? Is that it? You have the right to tell others to shut up, lay off, or piss off and they’re not even allowed to ask you a simple question? And then, without a single attack against you, you call them an asshole?

Funny stuff. Really.

And through it all, you’re still not able to say what I was supposed to “lay off” of in the first place.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Disturb the Universe on August 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Me neither.

Al in St. Lou on August 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

This is what it is about:

I’m not sleeping

I just have a better grasp of reality

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM
I hear Venezuelans have been saying the same thing since 1998.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Please, lay off.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Please lay off? Huh? Lay off what exactly? WTF?
Is this your own version of the Fairness Doctrine?

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

You want to look like an idiot, knock yourself out….

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Somehow, I doubt that’s the case here.

Check out TxMomof3 posts….she doesn’t deserve to be attacked by Gregor…

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Attacked? Really? I asked a simple question Einstein. In your tiny little mind, asking her what I’m supposed to lay off is an attack?

Wow. Just wow. You’re about as dumb as a rock, aren’t you?

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Shhh! It is all maskirovka. :-)

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 1:15 PM

:) keep them safe dark side.

journeyintothewhirlwind on August 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

At least you’re honest. Now, I ask again …

Based on the very information you just reposted, what am I supposed to “lay off?”

Was that question some sort of attack on you? I guess so.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM

I never knew my honesty was in question. Why do you have to be so aggressive? Hornet is a female by the way.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Wow. Just wow. You’re about as dumb as a rock, aren’t you?

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Now, you are showing you’re true colors. Go cry to mommy.

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I never knew my honesty was in question. Why do you have to be so aggressive? Hornet is a female by the way.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Again, ironic. You jumped onto my comment about Venezuelans having their rights taken away and told me to “lay off”, having absolutely nothing to do with the conversation, and you call ME agressive? I simply ask you what I’m supposed to lay off, and you call me an a$$hole.

And I’M agressive. Getting more confusing every minute.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM

You’re equals Your….

Alright…Gregor, I was defending Mom, and I think she was defending BB….explain your Venezuelan remark….

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Awww. Then, well, I owe you an apology…you were simply pointing out that if we don’t wake up, we will go the way of Hugo…I agree with that.

MY sincerest apologies!

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Now, you are showing you’re true colors. Go cry to mommy.

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM

You still can’t answer the question, can you? You’re acting like Barney Frank. Someone asks you a simple question that you can’t answer, and instead of admitting that you can’t answer it … you throw a tantrum and call the person all sorts of names.

It’s okay. I can wait for the answer. Take all the time you want. I’ll ask again …

“Based on TXMomof3′s comment to me … what exactly was I supposed to “lay off?”

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Awww. Then, well, I owe you an apology…you were simply pointing out that if we don’t wake up, we will go the way of Hugo…I agree with that.

MY sincerest apologies!

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Thank you. I accept your apology. I hope you can understand now, why I would be confused as to why Texmomof3 would ask me to lay off.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Not sure who’s interested, but this link is for RadioTime. It is basically a clearinghouse of all radio stations that stream free online. You can search it and find everything. I use it all the time to listen to Beck, Levin, Rush, or even regular music channels. You can also catch shows in different states who maybe on a different time zone than you in case you missed it in your area. It sure beats having a regular radio on. http://radiotime.com/

PS-I will post links to free cable news channels available online also if anyone is interested. I often hear ppl say they can’t watch Fox News because they don’t have cable.

di butler on August 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Awww. Then, well, I owe you an apology…you were simply pointing out that if we don’t wake up, we will go the way of Hugo…I agree with that.

MY sincerest apologies!

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Thank you. I accept your apology. I hope you can understand now, why I would be confused as to why Texmomof3 would ask me to lay off.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Well, I think she was defending BB, a friend of ours, and then I defended Mom, a friendly here too…..for some reason, your comment was a bit, well, confusing, until you expounded….

Barney Frank, though? Barney Fwank is want happens when you ‘abuse’ your mouth one too many times.

:)

HornetSting on August 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

I am not sure what the deal is with this thread, but comments are missing. I was just asking you to be a little nicer and you went off about me suppressing you free speech.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:56 PM

you – your

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

The Ronin Edge on August 14, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Ronin please calm the farq down this is really paranoid and dangerous.

bluestateconservative on August 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM

bluestateconservative on August 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM

What he is suggesting is domestic terrorism. Pretty scary stuff.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Diversity czar huh? What’s that make almost 40 for Barry now? God help us.

bluestateconservative on August 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM

More jobs going offshore to satellite companies in Bermuda. Already happening.

noblejones on August 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Jillian Bandes over at Townhall.com notes that Lloyd “has strategized about ways to censor conservative media,” adding:

In 2007, he [Lloyd] co-wrote a report that called for, among other things, the restoration of local and national caps on the ownership of commercial radio stations and fines for commercial radio station owners if their stations didn’t air enough “progressive” content. Those fines would go directly into the pockets of liberal competitors with fewer listeners.

Howard Portnoy on August 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Absolutley TX Mom. Let the Kos kids make asses of themselves but let’s not shoot ourselves in the foot by dreaming up crap like that.

bluestateconservative on August 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Ronin may sound a little freaky now, but if (God forbid) the time ever comes to implement these strategies it will be too late to pass them out over the internet….

I’ve often wondered how conservative Americans protesting today could get the attention of their government without violating any laws, particularly since it is we who respect law so much; since the entire American system of representation was founded specifically to govern within the framework of laws according to the will of the people, how do we re-gain representation when government is too big to listen? I mean, every protest has a chance to be heard, but not every protest has a chance to be taken seriously.

They stepped into it when they gave us town halls. Mrs. Pelosi has effectively taken the “un-American” position of not allowing voters who elected Republicans to have any input into proposed legislation, but I don’t know what they were thinking when they came up with this town hall thing. That was a dumb strategy.

rwenger43 on August 14, 2009 at 3:26 PM

rwenger43 on August 14, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Right-wing hate groups are on the rise?

Seems the pre-manufactured rationale for shutting down right-talk radio and any other outfit has been cast.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM

And there is this…

Faux white supremacist?

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 3:53 PM

if liberals can be so easily driven off radio than how come they still own the print news, broadcast news, television, and all of Hollywood?

Neo-Chase on August 14, 2009 at 3:58 PM

what’s the big deal? public broadcasting takes money from the private broadcasting industry in the form of taxes.

oh wait. this is an example of gov’t efficiency. getting rid of the middle man. the middle man being GOV’T!!! you know, those pesky members of congress who waste tax money on those earmarks. we’ll just bypass the gov’t and those “wasteful” earmarks getting in the way of financing public radio, and have the private radio industry directly pay for it.

now that is a model of gov’t efficiency!!!

photoboy74 on August 14, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Glenn Beck also covered this on his show, will Beck haters like Allahpundit dare to mention this?

nelsonknows on August 14, 2009 at 6:06 PM

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