Fairness Doctrine Raises Its Ugly Head Under New FCC “Diversity Czar”

posted at 8:47 am on August 14, 2009 by Rovin

What’s a poor liberal progressive to do when the radio airwaves are dominated by conservative talk and they can’t seem to “get a word in”? Why not diversify it? After Dan Rather got hammered recently for suggesting the news media needs a public handout, now on the horizon is an FCC Diversity Czar calling for private broadcasting companies to fund public broadcasting companies their total operating cost. Matt Cover at CNSNEWS.COM files this report:

(CNSNews.com) – Mark Lloyd, newly appointed Chief Diversity Officer of the Federal Communications Commission, has called for making private broadcasting companies pay licensing fees equal to their total operating costs to allow public broadcasting outlets to spend the same on their operations as the private companies do. LINK

Lloyd not only wants the money to come from private companies, he is planning on regulating the content:

“Local public broadcasters and regional and national communications operations should be required to encourage and broadcast diverse views and programs,” wrote Lloyd. “These programs should include coverage of all local, state and federal government meetings, as well as daily news and public issues programming.  (see link above for complete story)

Pravda anyone?

Lloyd wrote a book back in 2006 that must have caught someone in the Obama administration’s eye titled Prologue to a Farce: Communications and Democracy in America, published by the University of Illinois Press. Matt Cover explains that “Lloyd wrote Prologue to a Farce while a senior fellow at the liberal Center for American Progress. In that capacity, he co-authored the 2007 report The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio”

The report argued that large corporate broadcasting networks had driven liberals off the radio, and that diversity of ownership would increase diversity of broadcasting voices

Did you catch that?  These unfortunate liberals have been “driven” off the radio.  Why wait for the liberals to produce a fairness doctrine when you’ve got a Diversity Czar under the White House’s thumb?

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eff from WI on August 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM

I hadnt heard…what companies are this?

becki51758 on August 14, 2009 at 9:52 AM

I know countries have revolutions all the time, but somehow I cannot imagine war in my own backyard. Horrible thought. I hope it never comes to that.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 9:33 AM

The coming war isn’t necessarily an armed one. What I am talking about is the fact that clearly the filthy liar in the White House and those of his ilk are trying to force socialism on American society. They have taken over industries and have imposed far more governmental control on the financial industry. They are attempting to seize 1/5 of the economy and bring it under direct central control of a handful of unelected appointees. They are attempting to make end runs around both the First and Second Amendments.

At some point, ordinary Americans will need to rise up and reject the filthy liar’s agenda. I’m suggesting the time is quickly at hand as everyday we see more and more of this socialist crap out of DC. I don’t want to throw the government in chaos but as Captain Parker said….. If they mean to have war, let it begin here.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Amazingly enough, Chicago has not one but two excellent conservative stations-both on AM.
WLS has “Don & Roma”, Rush, Sean, Levin etc.
WIND has Big John(formerly of country station US99)& Cisco(I LOVE Cisco’s voice), Dennis Miller , Medved, and Mike Gallagher.
The local SCARE-America station is on FM and has maybe 5 listeners.

Note to the socialists:
My Radio. My choice.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM

To be fair, this is not something currently on the congressional docket. As the root article stated, these are the guy’s proposals from his book.

The ideas are ludicrous and completely antithetical to a free society. But some of the outrage should be save for when some form of the Czar’s ideas are actually put before Congress.

tbradshaw on August 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM

<blockquoteblatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 9:50 AM>

Not so fast. With all his czars and his penchant for circumventing congress he would still be dangerous.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 9:54 AM

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 9:54 AM

well

like i said

all the kings horses and all the kings men

cant seem to put the agenda together again

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 9:55 AM

What I mean is, if we can congressionally neuter obama, then he can stick around and do nothing
thts ok with me

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 9:50 AM

I understood, but listening to his arrogant smug…he makes me literally sick. I have caught myself grinding my teeth. My husband starts looking for an escape route when I pause the tv when Obama starts speaking.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 9:55 AM

jmarcure on August 14, 2009 at 9:25 AM

I noticed Drudge’s headline about law enforcement practicing to contain potential H1N1 riots.

Who would riot over flu? Even if it became deadly (as they’ve been planning) and the country was put under martial law (as they’ve been planning) – who would riot?

The only riots I could see happening is if people were forced to take a flu shot that was more dangerous than the flu itself. Then there might be riots.

Is that what they’re anticipating?

I’m not expecting elections in 2010. Obama has been hurrying everything up because he knows the country has to be destroyed before we have a chance to replace the democrat majority in House and Senate.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I wouldn’t doubt that Sirius would love to have Rush, which makes me think they might be secretly pushing for this. Getting Rush would solve their financial troubles overnight, but it would kill much of his audience due to the costs.

TXUS on August 14, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Rush has explained this before. He’s on so many stations that he doesn’t need satellite radio. It’s true. On road trips virtually anywhere in the country at 12pm Eastern you can find him on the radio. Personally, I love my Sirius radio because of the ability to get jazz and classical music without all the commercials (if you don’t count the plugs they constantly make for the other channels).

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 9:55 AM

I do agree that one or both houses need to be taken back in 2010. At least that’ll defang the s.o.b.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I am concerned about them banning people congregating. Maybe it is paranoia.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 9:58 AM

tbradshaw on August 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM

This presumes that Obama must go to Congress to do damage. Federal agencies, such as the FCC, belong to the Executive branch.

Under existing law, or a highly-nuanced reading of current law and regulations, and the FCC is not the only government agency known for this sort of thing, Obama and his many czars could, by Executive order, or select application of existing law and regulations, do major serious long-lasting damage long before any member of Congress could have the opportunity to stand in the House or Senate well and ask “WTF?”

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Well, you know what the Russians did to get rid of their Czars…

varnson on August 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM

I do agree that one or both houses need to be taken back in 2010. At least that’ll defang the s.o.b.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I kind of like Blatant’s neutering idea.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM

I don’t think anyone is seriously advocating a civil war, rather looking at what the possibilities are, leaving all options on the table.

I’d be more worried if such an obvious option weren’t being discussed….

Mew

acat on August 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM

It’s completely up to Obama as to how far this goes. There isn’t going to be an armed rebellion IF they stop at the line of still respecting the law and elections. They cross that, the first shot has been fired.

wildcat84 on August 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Are you going to meet us at the Spy Museum on the 12th?

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Yeah that free 3 months with the new car has turned into 3 yrs. I hate drug dealers….can you get me another month on the down low

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 9:52 AM
—–
For this to happen, we need to get to the task of educating Joe Citizen.

The further the Libs squeeze the major channels (TV (satellite, cable, broadcast) radio, newspapers…) the harder that job gets… but the more people start looking to the internet.

Mew

acat on August 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Michelle already keeps those in her purse.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM

You can really tell who wears the pants in that family. I try to get my way with charm, I can see her using brute force.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:02 AM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:02 AM

And a vise grips.

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM

For this to happen, we need to get to the task of educating Joe Citizen.

The further the Libs squeeze the major channels (TV (satellite, cable, broadcast) radio, newspapers…) the harder that job gets… but the more people start looking to the internet.

Mew

acat on August 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM

The terrible economy that isn’t getting any better (and is going to get worse) is doing more to unravel years of indoctrination than we could do with education.

wildcat84 on August 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM

The ideas are ludicrous and completely antithetical to a free society. But some of the outrage should be save for when some form of the Czar’s ideas are actually put before Congress.

Will the czars have to put their recommendations before Congress? Couldn’t the only person they are accountable to (Obama) just write a little executive order and it would be done? Remember, we don’t know how much power these czars actually have.

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM

wildcat84 on August 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM

The state of today’s education IS indoctrination

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM

There was a “lifetime” (of the unit) deal when I subscribed so I paid a hefty one-time fee. I forget how much it was but it has paid for itself by now.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Precisely. That is the inherent danger of these czars.

See coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Will the czars have to put their recommendations before Congress? Couldn’t the only person they are accountable to (Obama) just write a little executive order and it would be done? Remember, we don’t know how much power these czars actually have.

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM

There is already a “pay czar” who is demanding payroll records from companies, that has the power to “adjust” compensation.

None of that was the result of Congress, but of the thug in chief in the white house.

wildcat84 on August 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM

wildcat84 on August 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM
——
Yes… but only if they have an inkling that this is somehow not “Bushs’ fault” or “those evil Republicans fault”….

There has to be an inkling of a clue out there…

Mew

acat on August 14, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Are you going to meet us at the Spy Museum on the 12th?

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Who is us?

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 10:07 AM

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM

I know. I negotiate every year thinking I’ll ween myself off it.

palm slap

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:07 AM

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Now that is a long and distinguished list :)

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Under existing law, or a highly-nuanced reading of current law and regulations, and the FCC is not the only government agency known for this sort of thing, Obama and his many czars could, by Executive order, or select application of existing law and regulations, do major serious long-lasting damage …

coldwarrior on August 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Yes, EPA and DOE, for example. The 0-bots wouldn’t hesitate to dispense with the niceties of Congressional approval should it become too inconvenient.

petefrt on August 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Who is us?

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Coldwarrior, BB, HoustonRight, LaurafromMaryland, ….

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM

“Local public broadcasters and regional and national communications operations should be required to encourage and broadcast diverse views and programs,” wrote Lloyd.

Absolutely. Air time should be evenly divided between (on the one hand) those who support my views unconditionally, and (on the other hand) those who are outraged that some misguided souls fail to support my views unconditionally.

morganfrost on August 14, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Has anyone noted that we conservatives are willing to give our lives for this Nation, including for the protection of liberals? Yet, no liberals seem willing to put their lives on the line to protect America, conservatives, or even other liberals.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Funny, ain’t it?

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Did you see the video of the cops in Baton Rouge forbidding anybody to talk to the anti-Obamacare people on the sidewalk?

If what’s happened at Townhalls is enough for cops to ban civil conversation on the streets it won’t take much for the nation to come under martial law.

And actually, martial law was declared while Congress considered TARP.

I do think that martial law will be the route to finally do away with America. The nation’s already being prepped for it.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 10:13 AM

If Obama pushes, and gets Amnesty through, just prior to the Mid-terms, all of this will be moot.

OldEnglish on August 14, 2009 at 10:13 AM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Disgusting to me, actually.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:10 AM

I think this is what has them so scared. This mandetory national service program O’s pushing isn’t about picking up trash and building houses.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:14 AM

They know this and it is why they are overreaching. They know there is nothing to stop them.

jmarcure on August 14, 2009 at 9:25 AM

I have friends that fear the same. However, States hold elections. I understand that Blue States would go along, but could you imagine what Texas, LA, Alaska, Montana etc would do if they tried this?

If they tried to suspend the Federal elections, what would they do about the Gubernatorial elections in Republican held States? Let Schwartzeneger remain Gov? Bobby Jindal? Rick Perry?

I would have a greater fear of this in a Parlimentary government.

He could suspend congress with a national emergency declaration, but unless he violates Posse Comitatus and sends troops, it won’t happen.

Tell me what liberal thief legislator would stand for Barack taking their Power away? Would Nancy Pelosi say OK? Would Harry Reid? Would Jack Murtha give up his check book, I mean seat? Barney Frank, Dodd, Dingle, Conyers to name but a few of the hundreds that won’t give up their power, even for the ONE.

barnone on August 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:14 AM

I’m more worried about that plan than libs might be. I fear that if it comes down to armed insurrection, we’ll be fighting them and not the military. The Army isn’t in Obama’s pocket and he knows it.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

deez libs always hatin on my man Rush. wats the dillio yo?

moonbatkiller on August 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Count me in.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

The day Rush is forcibly taken off the radio is the day these liberals will feel some pain.

daesleeper on August 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

barnone on August 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM

You don’t think Obama would promise them a high ranking committee seat

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:19 AM

barnone on August 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM

But the libs in Congress would stay in power if we weren’t allowed another election. They’d love it. They’re not there so they can accomplish anything – especially if Obama’s doing it all for them anyway. This is a crew that put tons of filler pages into Cap and Trade. They’re more than happy to draw a lifetime paycheck for simply being a rubber stamp that never even knows what it’s approving.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Count me in.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

who wants to let me crash on their couch?!

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Correct you are.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM

If Obama pushes, and gets Amnesty through, just prior to the Mid-terms, all of this will be moot.

OldEnglish on August 14, 2009 at 10:13 AM

With a poor economy and all this other stuff, one of these social issues being pushed on the edges is going to be the spark that ignites a powder keg. I don’t think amnesty is as much a winning issue for the filthy liar and his party thinks.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:10 AM

That’s why, when we get back in charge, we need do whatever is necessary to neuter them forever.

Someone once said, “The purpose of war is not to defeat the enemy, but to wipe them from the face of the earth.” It was their hero, Lenin.

TXUS on August 14, 2009 at 10:21 AM

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Trust me BB. You KNOW with all the HA’s going you won’t have a problem in that area.

Don’t be so coy. lol

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM

The new playya can’t school the ol’ timey player. :)

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Seems the Beck boycott is tied to ex-con, neo-com Van Jones.

Obama Official Linked to Racially Charged Boycott of Glenn Beck

A racially charged activist group called “Color of Change” founded by Van Jones, a special advisor to the Obama Administration, is trying to silence popular radio and Fox News personality Glenn Beck by calling for a boycott of Beck’s TV advertisers. …
Now “Color of Change” has bullied at least five of Beck’s big advertisers — SC Johnson, Progressive Insurance, Geico, Procter & Gamble and Nexus Lexis — to pull their ads from Beck’s national cable program. Jones, the founder of “Color of Change,” was named Special Advisor for Green Jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Quality — a key administrative post — this past March.

petefrt on August 14, 2009 at 10:24 AM

try it B. Hussein…..

DARE YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SDarchitect on August 14, 2009 at 10:25 AM

The Army isn’t in Obama’s pocket and he knows it.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM
>>>>

When the Major Cook story was being discussed there were a lot of military folks who said they swore to be in Obama’s pocket and should be court-martialed if they’re not. Few of them seemed to see the danger in what they were claiming. Called us nuts for suggesting it could put them on the wrong side of both the Constitution and history.

If the military folks continue to think it is insurrection to interpret for themselves – or to ask for a legal interpretation – when the chain of command is issuing illegal orders, then the military IS in Obama’s pocket. Nobody’s in a position to personally decide that his orders are illegal, even if the language of the Constitution is plain.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Let them try this on top of ever thing else.Go ahead make my day.

thmcbb on August 14, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Headcount please… how many of us are going to dc? I booked our reservations this week so that will at least be 2 from East Texas.

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:26 AM

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM

hopefully someone will be there who will let me stay at their place for one night

ill sleep on the floor in the bathroom, i dont care!

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 10:27 AM

And people say Obama isn’t a FASCIST? He appoints and befriends the worst of the worst – and defines himself by doing so. I have little doubt, this Marxist will find a way to shut down Conservative talk radio within the next long, horrid 6 months of his regime.
Then… FNC? He certainly views conservative speech as more destructive than al qaeda.

Mrs.Toljaso on August 14, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Trust me BB. You KNOW with all the HA’s going you won’t have a problem in that area.

Don’t be so coy. lol

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM

He knows we are not going to let him sleep under a newspaper on a park bench.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Tell me what liberal thief legislator would stand for Barack taking their Power away? Would Nancy Pelosi say OK? Would Harry Reid? Would Jack Murtha give up his check book, I mean seat? Barney Frank, Dodd, Dingle, Conyers to name but a few of the hundreds that won’t give up their power, even for the ONE.

barnone on August 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM

That doesn’t happen right away. Their reward for going along is that they stay in power as long as the emergency is in place. How long will that emergency last? One, two, ten years? Wait a year or two and have a few show incidents to convince the people we are still under threat and suddenly people like the idea of a machined gun carrying solider on the corner. Then why would we need a senate? Oops, suddenly a senate upraising is discovered and thwarted. We have cool show trials and reward of savior by making him king or emperor so he and his lackeys can better control those regional governors.

jmarcure on August 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM

I’m not expecting elections in 2010. Obama has been hurrying everything up because he knows the country has to be destroyed before we have a chance to replace the democrat majority in House and Senate.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM

My thoughts also.

jmarcure on August 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Headcount please… how many of us are going to dc? I booked our reservations this week so that will at least be 2 from East Texas.

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:26 AM

What part of East Texas? I am near Tyler. Six in my group, parents, brother and his girlfriend, me and my husband.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Count me in.

highhopes on August 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Great! I am getting more excited by the day.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM

petefrt on August 14, 2009 at 10:24 AM

The same guy Beck has been educating us on…or one of them. Why am I not surprised!

becki51758 on August 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM

ill sleep on the floor in the bathroom, i dont care!

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 10:27 AM

How tall are you? You might be able to sleep in our tub.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:31 AM

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 10:25 AM

I was crunching numbers, actually. Sure, there are many in the military who back Obama and some who might not know better. But I like to think that more who swore the oath to defend the US and the Constitution would either not fire on fellow citizens or outright mutiny against their officers.

It’s all hypothetical and I sure hope we never have to find out in actuality. I’m trying to be an optimist here though anything is possible if the balloon of rebellion goes up.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM

It’s completely up to Obama as to how far this goes. There isn’t going to be an armed rebellion IF they stop at the line of still respecting the law and elections. They cross that, the first shot has been fired.

wildcat84 on August 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM

They can have it both ways you know.
They respect the law and constitution but unfortunately it has to be suspended for a while because of the nasty terrorist nuke attack a month before the 2010 elections.
We get around to those elections as soon as the threat passes. And the country cheers.

jmarcure on August 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM

He could suspend congress with a national emergency declaration, but unless he violates Posse Comitatus and sends troops, it won’t happen.

Consider the Posse Comitatus restrictions scrapped. You can thank that vile harpy Janet Reno.

If the 0bamanation gets up the support from the empty suits and his citizen-shills to call for something as big as suspending Congress, there WILL be troops and tanks on the streets. It’s only a matter of where and when and how many.

I highly suggest everyone living within 100 miles of a significant military installation start planning at least two long-distance escape routes. You do not want to be near hardened soldiers who are locked and loaded and told to be ready for trouble…even if they are ‘our’ soldiers. Also consider getting a good set of walkie-talkies; cell and landline phones can very easily be shut down by outside forces.

Dark-Star on August 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Are you familiar with Lake Cherokee about 9mi out of Longview?

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM

…as can Internet access. How did I miss that one?

Dark-Star on August 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM

petefrt on August 14, 2009 at 10:24 AM

I guess the Commie doesn’t like being outed as a Commie.

thomasaur on August 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM

TXMomof3

Me too! I am twenty miles east of Tyler – home of the Rangerettes!

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM

I agree w/Liam. Conservatives, IMHO, come at this from a position of love of country, honor and preserving our country for our children and grandchildren. Libs come to this battle from a position of hate — they hate this country the way it is and want to force their ideas of change on everyone.

justamomhere on August 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Ahh Kilgore!!

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Firing on fellow citizens might be the line that they wouldn’t cross.

I kept hearing people saying that they can only defy orders if they are ordered to do something illegal. But who gets to decide what is illegal? Major Cook was only asking for a legal determination of Obama’s legality to be CIC that was based on documentation. And that was going too far for the folks who reamed him.

It seems like they were wanting him court-martialed for asking for legal clarification, considering all the new, contradictory evidence that had popped up. If even asking the question is too much, which of them would dare to decide that it was illegal to break the posse comitatus act?

We’ve had events where the military clearly violated posse comitatus. And the military has outright said that if there is a flu epidemic they will be “involved” in testing, transport, etc. Is it just me, or is this announcing that they PLAN to violate posse comitatus?

I had been putting quite a bit of faith in the military but the last month has taken a huge toll on my trust there.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Are you familiar with Lake Cherokee about 9mi out of Longview?

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM

I actually grew up in Kaufman and traveled west into the metroplex. I have been to Longview, but I do not know the lake.

Me too! I am twenty miles east of Tyler – home of the Rangerettes!
libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM

I love Kilgore. I enjoy the East Texas Oil Museum. We are actually between Athens and Canton.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM

thomasaur on August 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Funny how his communist roots and his bizarre ideas werent mentioned in that article. *rolls eyes*

becki51758 on August 14, 2009 at 10:41 AM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM

The lake is kinda between Henderson and Longview. Spent every summer of my life there until about 12 yrs ago.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:44 AM

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM

I like to think we’re still okay long as the lean of the military remains in question. I won’t try guessing how long that status quo remains, however.

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:46 AM

I never thought in my lifetime that I would have serious thoughts regarding what the government might be planning. But, every time O appoints another czar, I try to read any books, papers, etc., that they may have authored. Guys, there is a nefarious connection here. Most of these people are all well outside even the extreme left’s positions on most issues and O is surrounding himself with these dangerous thinkers. What is up?

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I have a different take on this story.

What’s a “chief diversity officer” and what does one do? How much is this guy paid to do nothing of real consequence?

It seems that all one needs to do nowadays is write a facniful artciel about creating some wonderful new bureaucracy to make America “fairer” and voila, there’s a new job in the Obama Administration waiting for you. We’re about to have our financial regulatory system completely f***ed up because of a silly article written in Harvard magazine two years ago by a law professor with no actual financial services experience. And of course, she will be the head of this new agency.

I tell ya, if the Republicans do manage to regain control of the House or Senate next year, they will have a field day hauling up some of these nincompoops to explain their phony-baloney jobs.

rockmom on August 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Barry thinks his feet are in the fire over health care. If he’s dumb enough to go for Mark Loyd’s ‘diversity’, he’ll get hit with a flamethrower……..and Mark will find himself under the bus.

GarandFan on August 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM

we’re not nearly at that point

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Sleeeeeeeeeeeep. Sleeeeeeeeeeep.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I remember talking with a military friend after the election when Donofrio’s case was pending. I commented that the SCOTUS would be too afraid of riots to seriously consider Obama’s eligibility. He said that if there were debilitating riots across the country the military would be called in and they could make short work of quelling the ACORN types.

What he said would be comforting if we could always know the military would side with the Constitution. The last month or so has made me think it wouldn’t necessarily be so. If Obama’s regime declared Constitutionalists to be enemies of the nation the military could make short work of us 2nd amendment types too.

When push comes to shove, what soldiers would be willing to defy the orders of the CIC – trusting their own understanding of the Constitution above the legal experts owned by Obama?

That’s the question every military person needs to grapple with now, because the time is soon coming when they’ll have to have their answer ready.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM

How up to date do you think Obama is on Burmese politics?

OldEnglish on August 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM

…What is up?
libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM

We all know what’s up, what’s going on. The real question, I think, is: How far can it go before the people of this country stop it?

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:50 AM

We’ve had events where the military clearly violated posse comitatus. And the military has outright said that if there is a flu epidemic they will be “involved” in testing, transport, etc. Is it just me, or is this announcing that they PLAN to violate posse comitatus?

I had been putting quite a bit of faith in the military but the last month has taken a huge toll on my trust there.

justincase on August 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM

My thoughts are that they will follow the legal orders of their legally elected commander unless said commander does something so outrageously illegal that they can not ignore it. In my opinion firing on countrymen that have been legally declared enemies is not one of them. Remember they agree to defend the country from enemies abroad and within but within does not automatically translate to the sitting government which I fear far to many people think. Just remember that the military and police protect the citizens of this country and as soon as the first shot is fired that person becomes an enemy of the state. Rebels are just that and it will take a lot to turn the militray and police to the side of the rebels.

jmarcure on August 14, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Lloyd wrote Prologue to a Farce while a senior fellow at the liberal Center for American Progress. In that capacity, he co-authored the 2007 report The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio”

I read that report. They broke down the amount of ‘liberal’ programming on every public station in the USA. KFI 640 AM Los Angeles got a ’0′ despite Bill Handel spewing 3 hours of ‘socialized medicine is a right, we lost in Iraq, abortion is good business, Bush is the Inquisition’ 6 days a week. Center for American Progress doesn’t count that as ‘liberal programming’. If Mr. Lloyd is a ‘liberal’ then he must be a communist.

Chris_Balsz on August 14, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Nobody’s in a position to personally decide that his orders are illegal,

This is a big issue for the military. The order to deploy is legal even if you believe the mission is not. Not one military person has ever gotten out of jail time by claiming the mission was illegal. An illegal order would be if I ordered one of my guys to shoot a prisoner in the head. The first has to do with politics, the second is plain old murder. Now I believe there is a time coming when we in the military will have to decide which part of the oath we keep, the part to the constitution of the part to the president. I hope we can avoid that because it will tear appart the us military, but I think its coming.

sonofdy on August 14, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Guys, there is a nefarious connection here. Most of these people are all well outside even the extreme left’s positions on most issues and O is surrounding himself with these dangerous thinkers. What is up?

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Read about his mother. She seemed like an America hating radical. His grandparents let him hang around Frank Marshall Davis. He went to Socialist meetings in college. He is a true believer. I am worried for the first time in my life about the country that my children will be raised in. Clinton never worried me. Obama scares me to death.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Rebels are just that and it will take a lot to turn the militray and police to the side of the rebels.

Maybe not as much as you might think. As for the plague issue. We as a country may need to isolate infected areas to save lives. This is a valid use of the military. We can not allow infected people out of such areas or they will spread it, even if they are not yet sympomatic.

sonofdy on August 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:44 AM

North or South side? I lived on the North side in the 80′s.

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

sonofdy on August 14, 2009 at 10:51 AM

On top of that, we have to consider what the Russians and/or Chinese would do if national politics fell into armed rebellion.

BTW–thanks for serving!

Liam on August 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Sleeeeeeeeeeeep. Sleeeeeeeeeeep.

Gregor on August 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM

what?

I’m not sleeping

I just have a better grasp of reality

blatantblue on August 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

North side NG near the Knox Lee entrance.

HoustonRight on August 14, 2009 at 10:57 AM

sonofdy on August 14, 2009 at 10:51 AM

I have enjoyed reading what you have written on Michelle Malkin’s site. Thank you for your service.

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:57 AM

On top of that, we have to consider what the Russians and/or Chinese would do if national politics fell into armed rebellion.

They would do nothing, to us. I can think of serval countries that wouldn’t be so lucky that border them.

sonofdy on August 14, 2009 at 10:57 AM

TXMomof3 on August 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

I agree completely. I also think Frank Marshall Davis could possibly be Barack’s father. Ok, I am not a birther, but I am a skeptic on his whole made for tv story. I didn’t think much of it until Gibby was downplaying the birther subject and he mentioned DNA. Just seemed a very odd connection to me.

libertylady on August 14, 2009 at 11:00 AM

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