Grassley rapidly backing away from ObamaCare

posted at 11:36 am on August 13, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

When Barack Obama first launched his health-care reform effort, he had some natural allies among Republicans, and it looked as though a deal could get made — depending, of course, on the terms. After putting Nancy Pelosi in charge of that effort, though, Obama has run his putative Republican allies off the team and onto the other side. Senator Charles Grassley had been among the most publicly committed of Capitol Hill Republicans to hammer out a deal with the Democrats on health care reform, but their lack of give and his constituents’ obvious anger at ObamaCare has him backpedaling:

West Des Moines–In a series of tough town hall meetings on Wednesday, Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley defended his work drafting a controversial health care bill, but also seemed to distance himself from the legislation.

“I weren’t doing that the last four or five months I could sit around with my feet up on my desk,” he told a packed meeting in Winterset, Iowa. “You hire me to keep on top of things and I guess I’m a person that believes you are going to be on top of things if you are in the room instead of outside the room.”

Grassley, one of a handful of Republicans working with Democrats to draft a health care proposal, stressed that he would oppose any bill with a government-run plan in it, describing the government as a “predator.”

“Maybe you think well Chuck Grassley is up with that too,” he said. “so let me tell you right out I would not vote for the Kennedy bill [and] I would not vote for the Pelosi bill.”

Grassley came into the meetings with his votes in opposition to the auto bailouts and Porkulus as a shield against most of the wrath that has faced other lawmakers in their town-hall forums. That helped set a calmer tone for Grassley, but as Politico notes, his constituents in Iowa let him know of their unhappiness with the sharp leftward turn of Congress. He held four such meetings yesterday, and apparently he got the message: no deal.

In the video above from Politico, Grassley appears to lay down the tracks for his retreat. The administration has pledged to pass a bill with or without Republican support, setting up the same kind of showdown that they won on Porkulus. Grassley warns Obama that he’s about to back out of negotiations and let Democrats give the old college try — but the ground has changed considerably since then.

First, although Al Franken has taken his seat and given Democrats their 60th vote in the Senate, Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy are almost certain not to be available, so they cannot block a filibuster on a straight party-line vote. Nor can they get a straight party-line vote to pass anything with a public plan in it, with Ben Nelson (D-NE) at least likely to vote against it, and perhaps a few other red-state Democrats worried about voter reaction. They won’t get Susan Collins this time around to cross the aisle, not after she blasted Democrats in advance of Grassley’s comments this week for negotiating in bad faith. Grassley’s actions will probably influence Olympia Snowe as well.

Iowa is known for its populist impulse, but the message that Grassley has gotten in his town halls is the same that’s being delivered across the US. We don’t need a government takeover of health care, nor can we afford it. People have become angry at out-of-control federal government, and politicians are slowly but surely getting that message.

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Peddle faster Senator :)

Dr Evil on August 13, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Good to see. Hopefully, others are getting the message as well.

Bru on August 13, 2009 at 11:38 AM

A politicians promises mean little.

I care how he votes and until this thing dies all are suspect.

LincolntheHun on August 13, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Good to see someone may be listening to the people somewhat.

Slightly off topic but if health care was a right we all had, could we be denied any coverage? Would the elderly be able to demand cancer treatments instead of “end of life counselling” if it was their right?

Grafted on August 13, 2009 at 11:40 AM

LincolntheHun on August 13, 2009 at 11:39 AM

i’m with ya there…trust but verify

cmsinaz on August 13, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Chuck is my senator and he’s getting my messages.

Continue push.

No corn for you Chuck until you really come out swinging.

ted c on August 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM

At least some politicians still listen to their constituents.

Doughboy on August 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Don’t agree to ANYTHING that gives the Feds any more power over health care.

Christian Conservative on August 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Grassley came into the meetings with his votes in opposition to the auto bailouts and Porkulus as a shield against most of the wrath that has faced other lawmakers in their town-hall forums. That helped set a calmer tone for Grassley, but as Politico notes, his constituents in Iowa let him know of their unhappiness with the sharp leftward turn of Congress. He held four such meetings yesterday, and apparently he got the message: no deal.

Good. Vote no, then announce you are not running for re-election in 2010. We need a conservative in that seat.

First, although Al Franken has taken his seat and given Democrats their 60th vote in the Senate, Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy are almost certain not to be available, so they cannot block a filibuster on a straight party-line vote.

God works in mysterious ways.

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 11:42 AM

We don’t need a government takeover of health care, nor can we afford it.

Hey, Ed, how about we don’t want it, either?

BigD on August 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Don’t agree to ANYTHING that gives the Feds any more power over health care anything.

Christian Conservative on August 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM

lorien1973 on August 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Glad to hear that. Stand up Chuck.

ICBM on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Mr. Grassley wants to keep his job and his “Cadillac Health Care”

JoeySlippers on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Make these leftists own this abortion. No Republican cover, no negotiations and no compromises. This is an albatross we need to hang around their necks through 2012. Obama needs to be lamed until we can get him out of there.

elduende on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I’m not sure I would trust collins or snow to vote no on this.
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letget on August 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Hahahahaha

Shock the Monkey on August 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

This is a good sign.

bluelightbrigade on August 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

This August, has confirmed in my mind, the squishy middle it mostly made of people that just want to be left alone. Grover Norquist wrote a book (I have not read it), called Leave Us Alone about this group of people. I think appealing to this group is a path to victory at the federal level.

WashJeff on August 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

At least some politicians still listen to their constituents.

Doughboy on August 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Only when the fear of God is placed into them and then they still have to be led to do the right thing. America forgot to keep their leaders feet to the fire. Maybe this has awakened them

unseen on August 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

lorien1973 on August 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Hear! Hear!

LincolntheHun on August 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

All politicians who would like to retain their seats should quietly put the bill down and walk away.

TXMomof3 on August 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Obama needs to be lamed until we can get him out of there.

elduende on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I like the way you think. Or, was that just a typo?

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 11:46 AM

This August, has confirmed in my mind, the squishy middle it mostly made of people that just want to be left alone. Grover Norquist wrote a book (I have not read it), called Leave Us Alone about this group of people. I think appealing to this group is a path to victory at the federal level.

WashJeff on August 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

I never thought the “leave us alone” crowd that Norquist always talks about was all that “squishy.” It’s the very reason we refer to America as being a center-right nation.

Caiwyn on August 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM

I like the way you think. Or, was that just a typo?

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Nope that was a sinister political calculation. ;-)

elduende on August 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Hopefully Arlen Specter’s crumbling support will get other senators thinking a little harder.

Keef Overbite on August 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM

I warned him weeks ago and he didn’t listen. Perhaps, he’s listening now. Any Republican on board with this is doomed. Any Blue Dog on board with this will be defeated. Democrats will lose an enormous number of seats in the Congress and “at least” 6 Senate seats. Stick Obama with a fork – he’s done.

suzyk on August 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy are almost certain not to be available

If it means the difference between government takeover of 1/5 the economy or not, they will wheel one or both of them into the Senate and help them push the right button.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Don’t agree to ANYTHING that gives the Feds any more power over anything.

lorien1973 on August 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM

In a rule-of-law world, it would require an amendment to expand federal power as the Dems are trying.

WashJeff on August 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Hottie, my best advice for you is to find yourself a hard working man with a job and insurance.

TXMomof3 on August 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM

I never thought the “leave us alone” crowd that Norquist always talks about was all that “squishy.” It’s the very reason we refer to America as being a center-right nation.

Caiwyn on August 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Poor chouce of words on my part. Howabout “politically un-interested”?

WashJeff on August 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Grassley actually makes a good point; being in on the negotiations doesn’t necessarily mean one is collaborating with the enemy.

The psychological pressures working in that environment have to be enormous.

Skandia Recluse on August 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Why don’t you create a foundation to provide Healthcare for these so-called 40+ million uninsured Americans?

Or do you want to kill Grandma, too? Clearly, you’re a cold, heartless devil-of-a-person.

What, can’t afford it? Well, even on a national level, neither can we. Oh, and grossly inflated numbers are grossly inflated.

CatsGodot on August 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Why are people so opposed to the government our tax dollars being taken against our wishes providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans 20 million illegal aliens, 15 million Americans who choose not to purchase insurance, and 7 million Americans who don’t apply for existing programs?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I know I shouldn’t feed the trolls.

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Could this be a politician actually listening to his constituents? What’s wrong with this picture?

I suspect this is not a principled stand, unless you consider re-election a principle.

Anders on August 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

A politicians promises mean little.

I care how he votes and until this thing dies all are suspect.

LincolntheHun on August 13, 2009 at 11:39 AM

I agree. Anyways, won’t this just be another one of those things where they vote on it two or three times, procedurally, so that everyone who has to can vote both ways to cover their posteriors?

If there’s one thing that I can’t stand about the legislative process, it’s all the procedural flotsam they hide behind.

txhsdad on August 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Only when the fear of God is placed into them and then they still have to be led to do the right thing. America forgot to keep their leaders feet to the fire. Maybe this has awakened them

unseen on August 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Fear is a very powerful weapon. If that’s what’s required to keep our politicians in check, so be it.

Doughboy on August 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy are almost certain not to be available

What a lust for power these two have that they cannot resign even in poor health at their advanced age. Relax. Be with your families. You have done enough…damage.

WashJeff on August 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM

If Kennedy & Byrd can’t do their jobs why are they still representing their states they should resigne and the people of their states should demand it. WE PAY THEM TO DO NOTHING!

xler8bmw on August 13, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Ed,

What about the nuclear option? I thought that Reid et al was going to implement it so that it could be passed on a simple majority if they could not get the 60 votes?

Good news if they don’t but I wouldn’t put anything past them.

davek70 on August 13, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

The premise of your question is wrong

Government does not provide it takes from one and give to another

There are not 40 million uninsured that number like most large numbers is a “guesstimate” and full of inaccuracies

And this bill does not insure 40 million uninsured people it mostly just restricts those who do have insurance or will in the future.

LincolntheHun on August 13, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Bishop’s right. These are poor quality Trolls that slipped in yesterday. Axelrod must have lowered the pay rate.

kingsjester on August 13, 2009 at 11:52 AM

WashJeff on August 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Amen.

bluelightbrigade on August 13, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Check out a poll. You are the minority now.

Keef Overbite on August 13, 2009 at 11:53 AM

I suspect this is not a principled stand, unless you consider re-election a principle.

Anders on August 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I tend to agree with you but when it comes to defeating this bill, I’ll take it.

sherry on August 13, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Bishop’s right. These are poor quality Trolls that slipped in yesterday. Axelrod must have lowered the pay rate.

kingsjester on August 13, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Or these trolls are the ones who haven’t yet realized that there is no paycheck…sort of like those other stimuls jobs in the inner-cities.

bluelightbrigade on August 13, 2009 at 11:53 AM

“Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy are almost certain not to be available…….”

Oh………

……….. the irony is just too great.

Seven Percent Solution on August 13, 2009 at 11:54 AM

I know I shouldn’t feed the trolls.

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

“Hottie” seems to reason on the “war is bad” level. Give her a break.

Cicero43 on August 13, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

B/c socialism only ensures that poverty…for everyone.

And b/c your figures are wrong.

bluelightbrigade on August 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM

What took these idiots so long to backtrack? You don’t even have to read the bill to know that it is bad news. Just look at the people who wrote it. Evil through and through. If I lived in Iowa, I wouldn’t be happy about this. Relieved, but not happy. All of these guys that are on board with Hell Care or even participate in writing it need to be removed. It doesn’t take a Harvard graduate to recognize Evil, especially in Iowa. This bill should have been discarded on it’s ideas. Writing it down makes the sin even worse. Government doesn’t need to be in our health care or insurance.

BetseyRoss on August 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Grassley also backed Gov. Palin’s position on the end of life issue.

Gov. Palin also has a new Facebook post.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=116471698434

Clyde5445 on August 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM

“Hottie” seems to reason on the “war is bad” level. Give her a break.

Cicero43 on August 13, 2009 at 11:54 AM

As a woman, I can say this: the name says all I need to know, next…

TXMomof3 on August 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I fear civil unrest if the libs cram this through using reconciliation.

marklmail on August 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM

If Kennedy & Byrd can’t do their jobs why are they still representing their states they should resigne and the people of their states should demand it. WE PAY THEM TO DO NOTHING!

xler8bmw on August 13, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I don’t know about West Virginia, but I can tell you that in Massachusetts Ted Kennedy is idolized. Good luck convincing the “proletariat” in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts to throw out that old man.

Shock the Monkey on August 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

B/c socialism only ensures that poverty…for everyone.

And b/c your figures are wrong.

bluelightbrigade on August 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM

FIFMS

bluelightbrigade on August 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Grassley actually makes a good point; being in on the negotiations doesn’t necessarily mean one is collaborating with the enemy.

Skandia Recluse on August 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I fear the public may have awoken too late. I just got an e-mail from my very socialist Congressman which essentially said that he fully supports HR3200 and will get it to the desk of the filthy liar in the White House. Couple that with the fact that the filthy liar is now interjecting himself in the Senate negotiations.

Either this thing completely blows up in the filthy liar’s face or there is some backroom deal struck where the filthy liar gets the health care system in return for something else.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM

As a woman, I can say this: the name says all I need to know, next…

TXMomof3 on August 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Yes…”Hottie” is probably a liar.

bluelightbrigade on August 13, 2009 at 11:57 AM

I don’t know about West Virginia, but I can tell you that in Massachusetts Ted Kennedy is idolized. Good luck convincing the “proletariat” in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts to throw out that old man.

Shock the Monkey on August 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Fortunately the day is coming soon when that will a moot point.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Either this thing completely blows up in the filthy liar’s face or there is some backroom deal struck where the filthy liar gets the health care system in return for something else.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM

I hope you are wrong. Are you going to meet with us on the 12th?

TXMomof3 on August 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Any politician who considered supporting this thing for even a millisecond should be sent packing. NO MERCY!

Oldnuke on August 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

excellent

cmsinaz on August 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I fear civil unrest if the libs cram this through using reconciliation.

marklmail on August 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Is fear really the right word?

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM

This is not a health care bill!! It is a massive welfare program the likes of which we have not seen since LBJ and the great society. If Obama and his Communist cronies call it reparations or welfare the public would be further enraged and oppose it. They are trying to frame it as reform and good for the public with Orwellian doublespeak. What the country needs is JOBS not more taxes! Nothing is being done for the construction and housing industries in order to capitalize on the crises to take over every aspect of American,s lives. See it for what it is and act accordingly!!

Marco on August 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Either this thing completely blows up in the filthy liar’s face or there is some backroom deal struck where the filthy liar gets the health care system in return for something else.

I’m leaning towards door #1 here. The reactions are so profoundly negative on this, even in very blue districts, that it will be hard for them to keep pushing this for long.

teke184 on August 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Chuck has always had a reputation for staying in touch with his constituency here in Iowa. So while I’m thrilled to hear he has now decided it’s time to “leave the room”, he should have known we didn’t want him in there to begin with!

Goody2Shoes on August 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Have faith. If they force this takeover on us the nation will, putting it mildly, explode. Obama’s credibility and trust will be well and truly gone for good. He will be unable to govern this country. Not to mention what will happen to Congress…

elduende on August 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

I couldn’t give 2 craps about Grassley. For supporting this stupid enterprise, in the first place, he should be recalled and drummed out of the GOP. He’s a liberal turncoat, and should be described as such in public by real Conservatives. A Republican is the last thing I’d call that son of a bitch. Let’s hope he’s one of the politburo politicians that gets ousted and replaced by a REAL Republican, next election. Same for that backstabbing Snowejob, too.

Virus-X on August 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

F

LibTired on August 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM

“relish”?

LibTired on August 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

(1) The 40-million number is based on some questionable assumptions; it includes people not here legally, it includes people who are uninsured for very short periods of time (kids coming off their parents’ coverage, people between jobs), it includes people who are eligible for existing programs but don’t sign up (and who would be signed up automatically at their first contact with the health system), and it includes people who voluntarily do not self-insure at current rates. That’s not everyone, of course, but health insurance could be made more affordable for everyone with a number of reforms that stop far short of what’s being proposed.
(2) The current bills don’t start universal coverage until 2013, if I’m reading them correctly, and don’t hit the 47 million number even when they do start.
(3) The current bills don’t alter the long-term trajectory of health care costs (at least according to repeated analyses by Congress’ own CBO). The assertions and hand-waving of Orszag and the Administration on the link between bill specifics and cost controls are completely implausible. Completely.

Any other questions?

DrSteve on August 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Why are delicious chickens so opposed to the hungry foxes providing security for the 40+ million unguarded hen houses?

TMK on August 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM

A politicians promises mean little.

I care how he votes and until this thing dies all are suspect.

LincolntheHun on August 13, 2009 at 11:39 AM

I’m sad to say I feel the same way. How nice it would be to believe in a representative. This pack is going to have to do an awful lot to regain the public confidence. We’ve been scewered way too many times.

scalleywag on August 13, 2009 at 12:02 PM

“relish”?

LibTired on August 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM

There you go. At some point, the common man has to stop the madness that is the DC mindset. If they use lies and arcane rules to get around our will, we need to step up the pressure.

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Have faith. If they force this takeover on us the nation will, putting it mildly, explode. Obama’s credibility and trust will be well and truly gone for good. He will be unable to govern this country. Not to mention what will happen to Congress…

elduende on August 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Rest assured, I won’t be going down quietly. I just am very concerned about what happens next. The filthy liar in the White House has made this too big a deal to let it fail.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM

I fear civil unrest if the libs cram this through using reconciliation.

marklmail on August 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Is fear really the right word?

Vashta.Nerada on August 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Fear for our country. It would negatively impact our economic/currency globally. The world buys our debt because we’re the most stable.

marklmail on August 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I bolded the problem in your question. Government that as the power to give has the power to take. Government will now have the power to tell you how to live your life.

Government destroys the free market. HR 3200′s intent is to get us on government run insurance, if you lose your private insurance you are automatically enrolled into the government plan and cannot go back. You will have no choice whatsoever in how you live your life with Government viewing you as just a resource to be used to advance the state and Society.

Lastly, the bill does not state anywhere the specific rights a patient has, the specific protections a Patient has, and what Government is not allowed to do or what Government must do for you.

It gives power with little regulation to the Federal Government. The HHS Secretary could decide that we need to start an aggressive Eugenics program with forced sterilization of the Undesireables (Obama’s advisors are all for this). It doesn’t even state that a woman has a right to bring any pregnancy she wishes to term.

Holger on August 13, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Bishop’s right. These are poor quality Trolls that slipped in yesterday. Axelrod must have lowered the pay rate.

kingsjester on August 13, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Not all of us who slipped in yesterday are trolls :)

TKSnider on August 13, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Chuck has been dreaming of having a really, really big legacy…with his name on the bill.

What he might be realizing is that we don’t want Congress to do anything that reduces our control over our own lives.

Better to let the Dems shove something through without a single GOP vote and deal with it in 2010.

guntotinglibertarian on August 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Before you comment, you should read the bill. It does provide for mandatory frontal lobotomies for liberals.

If there is anything that ticks me off it’s someone who complains about something without reading it. Geeeese ,,,

Ghostbuster on August 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Chuck is also my Senator, and, unlike Harkin, he actually listens to his constituents. I’m not surprised that he tried to work with the Democrats, but losing him as an ally may have been one of the dumbest things they’ve pulled so far. I’m also not surprised that he held four town hall meetings in one day. That is definitely his style.

pookysgirl on August 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Do you want to give free healthcare to illegal aliens? How about you giving half of your paycheck to provide food for them?

Johan Klaus on August 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM

highhopes

They pass this turd and I shudder to think what will happen. I truly believe that something horrible will occur. People will be in the streets and it will get ugly. Congress hasn’t seen anything yet. This will be wwaaaayyy worse than the Amnesty bill. Way worse.

I hope Specter has a lucid moment after getting beaten up for the last week and realizes he will be handing his seat to Toomey if he votes for this turd.

JAM on August 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM

This is all well and good, but I think that it’s time for the high-profile GOP members of Congress to gather together and get behind a conservative program for reform.

Identify the primary (and secondary) problems and come up with understandable solutions. If, among other things, the GOP offers an inexpensive solution to covering the uninsurable (vouchers or something), they will steal much of Obama’s anecdotal and theoretical thunder.

And for crying out loud, hammer Obama and Dems as captive to John Edwards and the plaintiffs’ attorneys lobby. Who in this country doesn’t hate plaintiffs’ attorneys. Gets some sensible medical malpractice in front of the public and demand to known why it’s not being considered. I don’t know why the GOP is not more vocal: Reform, yes; but this kind of reform.

Obama has left the door wide open for common sense reform that won’t require all this Obama nonsense.

Wake up GOP. Turn the tables on Obama and steal the issue.

BuckeyeSam on August 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I appreciate Grassley’s work on this. Given the fact that the Dems have the votes to pass whatever they want if they can hold their own caucus together, having someone hold the line on a public option (and other elements of the bill) has been essential. Now that the ground is shifting, as Ed said, he can back off and say “look guys I tried but you took it way too far and I have to listen to the people.”

Ed’s point about Grassley being able to influence the Maine idiots is also well-taken.

Missy on August 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Because there aren’t 40 million plus uninsured Americans, troll.

Do your homework before you open your ignorant yap:

http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=273280379232127

guntotinglibertarian on August 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM

The reactions are so profoundly negative on this, even in very blue districts, that it will be hard for them to keep pushing this for long.

teke184 on August 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM

What other option do they have but to keep pushing? The filthy liar made this a zero sum game. How does he get out from under this without losing face? He’s put too much political capital into stealing healthcare to back down now. A compromise bill may do the trick but, honestly, given the furor against the key elements of the filthy liar’s plan I don’t see how a compromise bill would be anything but a sham piece of legislation. Bottom line, we must remain vigilant lest the filthy liar get this pushed through with backroom deals and midnight Congressional votes.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Why are people so opposed to the government providing healhcare to the 40+ million uninsured Americans?

hottieinthehouse on August 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Well for one thing (and it’s just one of the many things wrong with the plan), the government proposes to have elderly taxpayers, who have been paying into the Medicare system for years, have their healthcare choices limited so that more tax money can be spent on paying for “free” (to them) healthcare for millions of younger illegal aliens — people who have not been paying into the system and who don’t even have the right to be living here in the first place.

You really don’t see anything objectionable about that?

AZCoyote on August 13, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Hey Barry….you can pass OgabeCare any MINUTE you feel like it but the Pains from Maine a bi-partisan crap sandwich does not make….

see ya at the barricades in ’10 Soetoro

sven10077 on August 13, 2009 at 12:09 PM

“Hottie” seems to reason on the “war is bad” level. Give her a break.

Cicero43 on August 13, 2009 at 11:54 AM

But she knows ponies are good.

guntotinglibertarian on August 13, 2009 at 12:09 PM

say “look guys I tried but you took it way too far and I have to listen to the people.”

say to Dems, that is – sorry if unclear.

Missy on August 13, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Wake up GOP. Turn the tables on Obama and steal the issue.

BuckeyeSam on August 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I like it, especially if it touches on areas like tort reform. That would rattle the filthy liar’s cage like nothing else because it introduces a whole new element to reform aside from the tonsil vultures.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 12:10 PM

While it may be true that he is back peddling. Yet it is encouraging to see that SOME congress members are indeed HEARING what their constituents are saying. He should be given kudos for that much at least.

IanTrouble on August 13, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Once you go National Healthcare, you do not go back.

Want to know what is the third largest employer in the world??? The British National Health System, behind the Peoples Liberation Army of the PRC and the Indian Rail system. Know how big the PLA is? About 5 million.

Holger on August 13, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Rest assured, I won’t be going down quietly. I just am very concerned about what happens next. The filthy liar in the White House has made this too big a deal to let it fail.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM

I have no doubt they’ll try to foist some crap sandwich on us but we need to keep up the pressure and make it political suicide for anyone that supports any compromise.

If they force something through we can step up the resistance short of violence that will shut Obama down. Seriously. My biggest fear these past few months was that there was too much apathy out there but its not the case.

When they passed Medicare in 1965 they had an overwhelming bipartisan vote, the state governments were all on board, and most importantly the public was on board. They have none of that this time and this bill is a thousand times more onerous and disruptive than medicare.

elduende on August 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM

I hope Specter has a lucid moment after getting beaten up for the last week and realizes he will be handing his seat to Toomey if he votes for this turd.

JAM on August 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I hope Specter hands his seat to Toomey no matter what.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM

What other option do they have but to keep pushing? The filthy liar made this a zero sum game. How does he get out from under this without losing face? He’s put too much political capital into stealing healthcare to back down now. A compromise bill may do the trick but, honestly, given the furor against the key elements of the filthy liar’s plan I don’t see how a compromise bill would be anything but a sham piece of legislation. Bottom line, we must remain vigilant lest the filthy liar get this pushed through with backroom deals and midnight Congressional votes.

highhopes on August 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Agreed. The dems have gone all in on this one, without a firm bill to hold up to the American people.

ICBM on August 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Hottie, my best advice for you is to find yourself a hard working man with a job and insurance.

TXMomof3 on August 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM

TxMom, in my personal experience, any woman who refers to herself as a hottie is partaking of the most abundant commodity in the universe: self-delusion.

Her chances of a hard-working man staying around past about 3:00 a.m.? Slim to none.

guntotinglibertarian on August 13, 2009 at 12:13 PM

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