USA Today fact-checks Obama’s town-hall assertions

posted at 11:36 am on August 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

They’re not terribly enthusiastic about it, but USA Today corrects the record — in a sidebar — on a number of assertions made by Barack Obama yesterday at his Portsmouth, NH forum.  They leave out the biggest whopper, which is Obama’s claim that he has never favored single-payer health-care systems, but they do catch a couple of other big fibs, including Obama’s snow job on AARP endorsement.  One of the best catches from USA Today concerns Medicare Advantage, about which Obama has lied for over two years:

“Insurance companies basically get $177 billion of taxpayer money to provide services that Medicare already provides.”

About 10.2 million Medicare recipients are in Medicare Advantage. Under that program, the government pays insurers a set amount per Medicare beneficiary. Obama ridiculed it as costly and redundant, but the plan provides additional benefits, such as vision, dental and hearing, to seniors and helps coordinate health care for those with chronic conditions, says Robert Zirkelbach at the trade association, America’s Health Insurance Plans.

In fact, Medicare Advantage is a Godsend for those trapped within the Medicare system.  Recipients pay substantial monthly premiums, but the plan allows for better provider payments, which keep providers from locking patients out of their clinics.  The extended insurance provides coverage for services which Medicare ignores, and some create a co-payment system rather than the 60/40 system Medicare gives seniors and the disabled in practice.

How do I know this?  The First Mate has Medicare Advantage, and we saw what Medicare did before we got the supplemental coverage.  It’s a disaster for anyone needing anything more than just maintenance care.

Next:

“Under the reform we’re proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

Not necessarily. In an analysis of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee bill, the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that 10 million workers could lose employer-provided benefits and would have to find other insurance.

Some analyses put that number much higher — as high as 83 million.  Obama insists on making this argument despite all evidence to the contrary, especially since businesses control insurance options for most people in the US.  If Obama makes it attractive for businesses to dump their employees into a public plan, then most people won’t be able to keep their existing plans.  And thanks to ObamaCare, they won’t have many options to find private insurance, either.

“The rumor that’s been circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the House of Representatives voted for ‘death panels’ that will basically pull the plug on Grandma. … (T)he intention. .. was to give people more information so that they could handle issues of end-of-life care when they’re ready, on their own terms. … (O)ne of the chief sponsors of this bill originally was a Republican … (Sen.) Johnny Isakson from Georgia.”

Isakson issued a press release saying Obama misused his name. A provision he attached to a Senate health care bill would allow seniors to obtain help in formulating a living will something Isakson said is different from House language. The House bill would require Medicare to pay for end-of-life counseling sessions, but it would not mandate that anyone use the benefit.

The media had a field day with this yesterday, using Isakson as a bat with which beat conservative critics, but it never occurred to the layers of fact-checkers and editors that a Senator would have had nothing to do with a clause in a House bill.  In fact, Isakson does support making end-of-life planning available, but doesn’t support the mandate for it that exists in Section 1233 of the House bill.

Kudos to USA Today for doing a good job of fact-checking, even if they couldn’t devote a separate article to it.  (via QandO)


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Give the man a pass.

Obama was in the Senate for only 20 or so days, so maybe he honestly believes that Senators write/sponsor legislation in the House.

myrenovations on August 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Finally someone not on the right(or michael moore), is tying Obama to his lies

andrewtf on August 12, 2009 at 11:41 AM

I watched that town hall yesterday, I was impressed by Obama’s mastery of the crowd, when he fielded that tough question from the 12 yr old girl 2 questions in…..

Ozprey on August 12, 2009 at 11:42 AM

richard wolf and susan page to be fired in 3… 2… 1…

TruthBeTold2 on August 12, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Is this a sign of the end times? USA Today actually engaged in journalism??

rukiddingme on August 12, 2009 at 11:43 AM

HOPE AND CHANGE LIES AND ASTROTURF

Good Lt on August 12, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Little by little — The Joker lies.

People are slowly getting the impression that the Democrats Government Run Healthcare poo isn’t sticking to the wall.

Never ever trust the Joker.

tarpon on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Seems to me there were many more lies:

No plants in my “town hall” meeting. Michelle shows that’s just an outright lie.

AARP endorsement

I’ve never said I’m for single payer.

This will cut costs and save the economy.

The man lies almost every time he opens his mouth. And we’re supposed to trust him??? I don’t think so!

Christian Conservative on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I have decided as of last week that I am fed up, and not taking it any more. In my daily excursions to the Dog Park (the town that I live in is a bastion of liberal self-righteousness and disability basket cases) I am now politely holding Obama voter to account for their actions and the resultant negative results. I am oft pointed out as the house conservative and have routinely during Bush’s tenure had to defend his positions (even though Bush wouldn’t do it himself) even though I am there to enjoy my dog and not talk politics.

I have come to the conclusion that liberals cannot or will not counterbalance personal liberty and freedom with personal responsibility. I have also concluded that liberals are grossly uninformed about almost everything. Whether this is ignorance or duplicitous ness I am not sure.

This is for sure. Those that took the initiative to foist this metrosexual Marxist upon us do not want to stand accountable for their actions. Generally speaking, these liberals are by and large cowards. They also happen to be water drinkers and not toters. They also have a disdain for this country and have strong opinions without strong research or actual knowledge. I hold them in less regard now than at any other time I have known these people and that is sad.

epluribusunum on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I knew there was something fishy about that newspaper!

hillbillyjim on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM

By the way, the USA Today article was forwarded to the White House Ministry of Health Care Disinformation Refutation for approval and analysis by the White House.

Will update on response and pending approval by White House.

Thatisall.

Good Lt on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Ogabe talked stupidly.

Bishop on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM

OK, sure he may be a liar, a Marxist/socialist and doesn’t know a thing about even simple economics, but DAMN he gives a great speech!

Star20 on August 12, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Why couldn’t they have fact-checked his stump speeches during the campaign?

Oh, never mind. I know the answer. Sigh.

NebCon on August 12, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Factcheck?

There is a very simple tried and true method in our hands…

If Obama’s lips are moving…he is lying.

A Factcheck we can believe in.

coldwarrior on August 12, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Is this a sign of the end times?

rukiddingme on August 12, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Coupled with this from the UN via Drudge:
UN CLIMATE WARNING: ‘WE HAVE 4 MONTHS TO SECURE FUTURE OF PLANET’…

we are doomed.

WashJeff on August 12, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Things are looking bad for Obumblecare if even USA Today is pointing out the bigger lies.

What I would really like to know is what exactly is Obumbler’s plan? He had to have said ‘my plan’ two hundred times yesterday but the only plans I know of are the House plan and the yet to be Senate plan.

jukin on August 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM

so we’ll give USA today a sidebar of some credibility.

ted c on August 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Linda Douglass: “You didn’t hear what you heard”

SouthernGent on August 12, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Obama bussed in the crowd at his so-called town hall

H/T Insty

John_R on August 12, 2009 at 11:47 AM

USA TODAY is worried of losing name recognition after O’Bama socializes the country.

USSA Today just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

portlandon on August 12, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Thank you Ed for the clarifcation. We all have come to know how Obama lies and continues to lie. I am surprised that USA Today covered what they did. Could it be that MSM is turning around? The more that the lies are exposed, we gain a much clearer picture of where Obama wants to take us. I for one am more than a little upset by his fiascos. I am treading lightly here.
I do not want this Bill to go through, in any way shape or form.

RoxanneH on August 12, 2009 at 11:47 AM

In fact, Medicare Advantage is a Godsend for those trapped within the Medicare system. Recipients pay substantial monthly premiums,

My parents are on a Medicare Advantage plan. The monthly cost is their Medicare Part B premium which the government pays to the insurance company, plus the cost of Part D. This is much cheaper to my parents than the cost of a medicare supplement policy.

ICBM on August 12, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Against overwhelming odds, blind pig media finds a truffle.

whitetop on August 12, 2009 at 11:48 AM

UN CLIMATE WARNING: ‘WE HAVE 4 MONTHS TO SECURE FUTURE OF PLANET’…
we are doomed.
WashJeff on August 12, 2009 at 11:45 AM

I say we ransack the UN, beat the crap out of the Iranian ambassador, sell anything worth anything, and live like Kings for 4 months.

Patrick S on August 12, 2009 at 11:48 AM

I went to a Town Hall with my Rep (Tsongas, D-MA) last night.

Probably more lies and distortions than the Pres.

At one point she said we need to control costs by paying less to doctors, then later she said we need to attract more doctors to primary care so we need to pay them more.

Can no one see the contradictions everywhere?

And what’s all this about the plan having a comprehensive medical database on everyone?

A centralized nationwide databank of personal medical histories on everyone from birth onward. What could possibly go wrong?

sultanp on August 12, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Obama couldn’t care less what is or isn’t in any of the health care proposals. He wants to undermine the constitution and create chaos. There is no concern for anyone or anything he has ever done, except to get even for America’s evil capitalism.

fourdeucer on August 12, 2009 at 11:49 AM

LIAR IN CHIEF

LINK

HondaV65 on August 12, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Christian Conservative on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Did he say there were no plants? I think he just said people might think everybody’s a plant.

Phoenician on August 12, 2009 at 11:51 AM

“Under the reform we’re proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

so why the H/C over haul

david kumbera on August 12, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Crr6 says, If you don’t like Obama lying to you, maybe you should move to another country. Like Somalia.

Liberal trolls say: If you don’t like Obama taking questions from supporters, then lying when he answers. Well you are unpatriotic. And a nazi thug.

lorien1973 on August 12, 2009 at 11:51 AM

If USA Today is going start “fact-checking” our President, they are going to need a new, cutesy little graphic for the whoppers. Instead listing with ‘bullets’ how ’bout a little blue man with a turd springing from his mouth?

Doorgunner on August 12, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Obama once said he was a proponent of a single-payer plan and recently said that he was NOT a proponent of single-payer. Which statement was a lie? (I think we all know which one…)

nickb on August 12, 2009 at 11:52 AM

I say we ransack the UN, beat the crap out of the Iranian ambassador, sell anything worth anything, and live like Kings for 4 months.

Patrick S on August 12, 2009 at 11:48 AM

WashJeff and I will meet you out front!

rukiddingme on August 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Wow!

It’s amazing how stupid Obama thinks we are.

Who are we to believe, Obama saying whatever he thinks will sell this steaming pile of poo or our own lying eyes and ears.

Yakko77 on August 12, 2009 at 11:54 AM

People misunderstand Medicare Advantage, what it is, and why it is what it is. I understand that you are a consumer Ed.

But Medicare and anything is good. It is a neutral cost/benefit to the government because if people weren’t on Medicare Advantage, then the government would have to pay the claims.

I understand your cheerleading for Medicare Advantage products. They are good products. The last guy I debated here (consumer) told me to check on ‘Coventry’ medicare advantage plans, and they are going out of business. . . discontinued after this year.

I suppose you telling me about Medicare Advantage is the same as me telling you about Catholicism. I read about it, you lived it. I’ve been dealing with all this MA stuff as my life, you bought one.

Again, it is great. But Medicare by itself is great. Medicare Advantage plans are going to get cut backs from the government and the government is going to blame the insurance companies.

You don’t pay anything more for it. If you got medicare and traditional supplement, you wouldn’t pay copayments at all. Any hospital, any doctor is covered at 100% for about 75 bucks. That is the system that was in place from 1993 until present. It was great with everything but prescriptions. Then they came out with part D

I suppose if you talked with thousands of people over many years about different medicare products, you’d have the same understanding that I do. As it stands, you bought one and claim to be an expert. It’s OK, it’s your blog. . . but you, like most in this debate are misinformed.

ThackerAgency on August 12, 2009 at 11:54 AM

I say we ransack the UN, beat the crap out of the Iranian ambassador, sell anything worth anything, and live like Kings for 4 months.

Patrick S on August 12, 2009 at 11:48 AM

If we just ransack the U.N. our country is spared, and we can live like kings forever.

Ozprey on August 12, 2009 at 11:54 AM

So, we have this:

Obama is tanking, so it’s starting – to survive, you need to throw him under the bus.

As soon as the polls went south, all of a sudden Hillary is mad and now it comes out that she really didn’t want the SOS job. Fine.

How long before she tells him to shove that job. She doesn’t want Sarah to get ahead of her, so she will leave the Administration and start her campaign. With that, take all “her” insiders that are now with Obama, leaving him to flounder in the wind.

suzyk on August 12, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Can’t you just leave the Liar-in-Chief alone to eat all His waffles?

rbj on August 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

If we just ransack the U.N. our country is spared, and we can live like kings forever.

Ozprey on August 12, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Ok so we beat the crap out of the Iranian ambassador just because it’s the right thing to do.

Patrick S on August 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

“In terms of savings for you as a Medicare recipient,” President Obama told a town hall attendee yesterday, “the biggest (change) is on prescription drugs, because the prescription drug companies have already said that they would be willing to put up $80 billion in rebates for prescription drugs as part of a health care reform package.”
Then the president said, “Now, we may be able to get even more than that.”

…Former House Energy and Commerce chairman Bill Tauzin, R-La., now the head of Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, or PhRMA, said his industry had committed a specific amount of money and part of the deal was Democrats would refrain from seeking more than $80 billion.

That would preclude, for instance, a campaign pledge by then-Sen. Obama to re-negotiate the cost of pharmaceuticals through the Medicare prescription drug benefit.

“$80 billion is the max, no more or less,” Tauzin said to the New York Times. “Adding other stuff changes the deal.”

HT: AOSHQ.

Will Big Pharma bail? AARP is now careful to say it supports reform, but no particular bill.

Wethal on August 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Give the man a pass.

myrenovations on August 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM

It’s called a race card and it is waved anytime the filthy liar’s competence is questioned.

highhopes on August 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Scientists say we are on the brink of building a computer with a human brain!

Obama has volunteered for the job. However. scientists say that they don’t want to waste the time, effort and energy to build a computer to do only simple math….incorrectly.

coldwarrior on August 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

How long before she tells him to shove that job. She doesn’t want Sarah to get ahead of her, so she will leave the Administration and start her campaign. With that, take all “her” insiders that are now with Obama, leaving him to flounder in the wind.

suzyk on August 12, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Just keep whispering in here ear that Obama wants to know what Bill thinks about…..

Ozprey on August 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Dude. Bryan (formerly of HotAir) makes a great point at Ace.

Health care in the US is covered by three main systems– Medicare, medicaid, and private insurance.

two of these systems are bankrupt, and will be unable to make payments beyond 2032 (insert correct date here, I don’t know).

the third is solvent, and can make all of its payments for the foreseeable future.

Barack Obama’s plan is to take the one system meeting its obligations and fold it into the two systems that are bankrupt.

lorien1973 on August 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM

I say we ransack the UN, beat the crap out of the Iranian ambassador, sell anything worth anything, and live like Kings for 4 months.

Patrick S on August 12, 2009 at 11:48 AM
WashJeff and I will meet you out front!

rukiddingme on August 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM

I was thinking a Hurricane hitting NY 4 months from now (sorry conservative NYers) and have a flood waters take down the UN building like that hotel in Taiwan.

WashJeff on August 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Ok so we beat the crap out of the Iranian ambassador just because it’s the right thing to do.

Patrick S on August 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

lol, deal!

Ozprey on August 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Sorry,I am not giving anybody KUDOS until they do the joB CORRECTLY!That is no different than giving a child an A for just trying! When they give the complete and honest news no matter how they personally feel,then they get KUDOS!

ohiobabe on August 12, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Obama telling lies? No! Say it ain’t so!

I knew this fraud was a liar the moment he denied knowing his pastor was a racist bafoon.

jawkneemusic on August 12, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Why the hell would my employer keep providing access to health insurance if Uncle Sugar is willing to take the exposure? Anyone?

Limerick on August 12, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Eventually, when your child simply won’t listen, you have to take off your belt.

j_galt on August 12, 2009 at 12:00 PM

I like my doctor.
The Donks say I can keep him,
But that is a lie.

Haiku Guy on August 12, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Eliminate the employer-employee-insurance relationship.

Cap malpractice claims.

Health care is now reformed.

uknowmorethanme on August 12, 2009 at 12:02 PM

The House bill would require Medicare to pay for end-of-life counseling sessions, but it would not mandate that anyone use the benefit.

Can you smell the government efficiency here? A whole department that no one’s required to use! Nice, I can see the savings already.

NickelAndDime on August 12, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Limerick on August 12, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Shut up. That’s why.

lorien1973 on August 12, 2009 at 12:02 PM

USA Today is guilty for spreading fishy rumors about the Obamessiah! I’ll have to report this to stasi@whitehouse.gov flag@whitehouse.gov.

Sir Galahad the Pure on August 12, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Obama’s Rassmusen approval rating now at 48% the lowest ever. Maybe the voters are finally figuring out that they have elected a liar to the presidency.

farright on August 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Has anyone ever seen, read, or heard Obama’s plan? What is Obama’s plan? What plan other than single payer does Obama claim to support?

fourdeucer on August 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Will Big Pharma bail? AARP is now careful to say it supports reform, but no particular bill.

Wethal on August 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Different dynamic. AARP is a member organization. Actually it is a activist group for retired union workers but it sells itself as a senior’s advocacy group. They have to be getting hammered by members upset that they’ve signed on with the filthy liar. They are walking a very thin line here and they know it. I’d say the AMA is probably the next to wobble if it looks as if the attempt to seize the healthcare industry falls through.

highhopes on August 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM

but it never occurred to the layers of fact-checkers and editors that a Senator would have had nothing to do with a clause in a House bill.

Money line here.

drjohn on August 12, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Obama’s Rassmusen approval rating now at 48% the lowest ever. Maybe the voters are finally figuring out that they have elected a liar Mordecai Jones to the presidency.

farright on August 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Limerick on August 12, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Here’s what Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Democrat Senator (deceased), had to say about liberals:

“The liberal left can be as rigid and destructive as any force in American life.”

AltaConservative on August 12, 2009 at 12:04 PM

HOPE AND CHANGE

Hype & Chains

Paul the American on August 12, 2009 at 12:05 PM

They have to be getting hammered by members upset that they’ve signed on with the filthy liar.

highhopes on August 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM

I’ve been hearing stories of members tearing up their cards on tv etc….

Ozprey on August 12, 2009 at 12:05 PM

We’re gonna run out of petards soon.

drjohn on August 12, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Let me be clear …

NO WE CAN’T!

CEA_Agent on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

McPaper meets McPresident!
If you can’t even fool the dribbling cretins at that bunghole…
Next – “Grit” examines the next Ethanol bill!

TexasJew on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Paul the American on August 12, 2009 at 12:05 PM

LOL

drjohn on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Dude. Bryan (formerly of HotAir) makes a great point at Ace.

Health care in the US is covered by three main systems– Medicare, medicaid, and private insurance.

two of these systems are bankrupt, and will be unable to make payments beyond 2032 (insert correct date here, I don’t know).

the third is solvent, and can make all of its payments for the foreseeable future.

Barack Obama’s plan is to take the one system meeting its obligations and fold it into the two systems that are bankrupt.
lorien1973 on August 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM

The Federal Government is falling apart. If they do not expand the federal debt ceiling, the government will be bankrupt and forced into fiscal conservativism or violate the law (which would be a cause for Civil War/Revolution). If the debt ceiling is elevated it will anger China and the other nations we are indebted to and allow us to expand past the federal debt wall causing economic collapse.

Obama and the DNC are trying to secure dictatorial powers before that happens…

Or am I just wearing tin-foil hat right now?

Holger on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

I was thinking a Hurricane hitting NY 4 months from now (sorry conservative NYers) and have a flood waters take down the UN building like that hotel in Taiwan.

WashJeff on August 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Only problem with that is the fact that there is so much hot air in that building it would simply float down river.

highhopes on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Obama doesn’t even know what’s in his own plan. This is the same guy who claims that he sat in church for twenty years and didn’t realize the clown screaming and jiving at the pulpit was a blatant racist. Either he’s dumber than a stump, or trying to be greasy.

Hening on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Do they have enough paper to fact check all the lies this waste of skin asserts?

HornetSting on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

USA Today corrects the record

Breaking headlines: Enthropy found to be running backwards in the nether world. Hell Freezes over.

chemman on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

So what’s the big deal? We know “The One” is a politician and just like President Bill he will always be in campaign mode as if he didn’t really get elected.

The MSM will eventually turn on him just like they did with Hillary it’s only a matter of time. When they do we can all say we told you so. But what is going to be worse for the Obamotics is that one day they will have to admit that yes, (gulp) someone can be worse than Dubya. Unfortunately, we will all have to put with this crapola for many more years.

Texasrocker on August 12, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Obama makes Jimmy Carter look competant!

madeuce on August 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Only problem with that is the fact that there is so much hot air in that building it would simply float down river.

highhopes on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

but at least it would be heading in the right direction, out to sea.

Ozprey on August 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Either he’s dumber than a stump, or trying to be greasy.

Hening on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

They aren’t mutually exclusive.

chemman on August 12, 2009 at 12:09 PM

I know AARP, of which I’m a dues paying member, has not officially endorsed Obama’s general health care reform, but they do seem to be out there acting as cheerleaders for him. Their spokespeople keep going on the talk shows acting like advocates. They allegedly send out emails that take on the “myths and lies” being used by the opposition to health care reform. If that’s not endorsing…what is?

ScottiesRule on August 12, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Coupled with this from the UN via Drudge:
UN CLIMATE WARNING: ‘WE HAVE 4 MONTHS TO SECURE FUTURE OF PLANET’…

we are doomed.

The U.N. is just pulling a page from Barry the Joker’s playbook. Translation?

“Quick! Hurry! Now, now, now enact far-reaching state-empowering socialist legislation to ‘save’ ourselves from ourselves. We don’t have time to ‘think’ about it, JUST DO IT!”

Funny how unimaginative and readable these fellow travelers are.

JoeinTX on August 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM

They should have devoted a separate article to it. This is why newspaper ciruclation is dropping like a stone and Fox News’ ratings are skyrocketing, because people can’t get clear insight into both sides of an issue. Giving these corrections it’s own article would immediately draw people to Obama’s false statements and give the article precedent over others, as opposed to a side bar. I can’t give USA Today credit for doing something they should have done to begin with and still half assed it to an extent. There were too many lies in that phony townhall to no warrant it’s own article.

Daemonocracy on August 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM

sky is blue, obama is a liar.. nothing to see here

gatorboy on August 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Hey Ed — perhaps USA TODAY will start submitting Obamateurism suggestions…

D2Boston on August 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Will Big Pharma bail? AARP is now careful to say it supports reform, but no particular bill.

Wethal on August 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

AARP countered that they are for health INSURANCE reform and have not officially supported a healthcare bill. They are playing with words just like their god Obozo.

txag92 on August 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Limerick on August 12, 2009 at 12:00 PM
You win the Grand Prize!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSP_i9MI9NU

TexasJew on August 12, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Only problem with that is the fact that there is so much hot air in that building it would simply float down river.

highhopes on August 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM
but at least it would be heading in the right direction, out to sea.

Ozprey on August 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Finally the UN would serve a useful purpose, establish a new coral reef.

WashJeff on August 12, 2009 at 12:11 PM

“Fishy” is right- Quick e-mail the whole “Oblahblahblah” townhall video to flag.gov!

huskerdiva on August 12, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Does the USA Today get delvered to anywhere else other than a hotel hallway?

WashJeff on August 12, 2009 at 12:12 PM

He’s doing such a good job with the health care, I can hardly wait for immigration – err amnesty. Oh I forgot were gonna count them in the census so we might as well just let them in.

Nobama – NO HE CAN’T

fdcchief on August 12, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Obama makes Jimmy Carter look competent!

madeuce on August 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Obama makes Bill Clinton look honest.

jazz_piano on August 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM

“Under the reform we’re proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

Then tell me again why we “need” Gov health care.

david kumbera on August 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM

I hope all of the AARP members cancel by the busload and crater this charade of an organization.

It’s evolved into nothing but a left wing lobby group. I cut up may card and mailed it back to them with scorching comment after they had that D-Bag Harry Belafonte as one of their “Persons of the Year”.

PatriotRider on August 12, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Has anyone ever seen, read, or heard Obama’s plan? What is Obama’s plan? What plan other than single payer does Obama claim to support?

fourdeucer on August 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM

What’s with all the questions? What are you, some kind of question-Nazi?

EnglishMike on August 12, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Has anyone ever seen, read, or heard Obama’s plan? What is Obama’s plan? What plan other than single payer does Obama claim to support?

fourdeucer on August 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM

What’s with all the questions? What are you, some kind of question-Nazi?

EnglishMike on August 12, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Asking questions is “Un-American” and borderlines on racism….or so I’m being told…

Ozprey on August 12, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Does the USA Today get delvered to anywhere else other than a hotel hallway?
WashJeff on August 12, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Petsmart.

TexasJew on August 12, 2009 at 12:19 PM

The assessment of the fawning media notwithstanding, when Obama goes without a script, he’s his worst enemy. He could get away with this sh*t as a senator and even as a candidate because he was always sharing the stage in some respect.

All eyes are on him now, and he’s failing miserably. I think it’s hilarious that the media is absolutely convinced Obama’s at his best when “he’s explaining things to the American people.” He’s awful. And yesterday’s Potemkin Village-hall meeting proved it. His explanations were lousy and his examples are either incomprehensible or laughable.

Look, the one-third of this country drinking Kool-Aid will never be convinced otherwise, and the one-third of conservatives of this country will never be persuaded by him. But I think these Potemkin Village-hall meetings are great because the middle one-third of the country is getting to see first hand that he’s full of sh*t and that he really doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Face it, Obama is the Ryan Leaf of American presidents.

BuckeyeSam on August 12, 2009 at 12:20 PM

I had an AARP membership for one year until I found out this so called non partison group is a mouth piece for the democratic party.Wait they will be endorsing this plan soon.

LennyV on August 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Has any MSM mentioned the fact the Dear Leader lied about his single payer support?

d1carter on August 12, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Obama does make clinton look honest, and that is one hell of an accomplishment.

ORconservative on August 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM

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