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	<title>Comments on: Eugene Robinson also wonders about Section 1233</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Obama&#8217;s credibility is leaking, not &#8220;precious bodily fluids&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2743243</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Obama&#8217;s credibility is leaking, not &#8220;precious bodily fluids&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with Howard Fineman of Newsweek and Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post &#8212; who had his own skepticism about the ObamaCare proposals and their cost-reduction measures &#8212; about why Obama&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with Howard Fineman of Newsweek and Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post &#8212; who had his own skepticism about the ObamaCare proposals and their cost-reduction measures &#8212; about why Obama&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Palin contra Obama: Sanidad. Los &#8220;paneles de la muerte&#8221; y el nerviosismo de Obama. &#171; Sarah Palin en Español</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palin contra Obama: Sanidad. Los &#8220;paneles de la muerte&#8221; y el nerviosismo de Obama. &#171; Sarah Palin en Español</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] que ahorraría costes. No es Palin quien lo dice, son dos tipos partidarios del Plan de Obama. Ed Morrissey en HotAir también comentó estas opiniones llamativas. Y no, no es lo mismo si una aseguradora privada hace lo mismo: podría cambiar de asegurador, o [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] que ahorraría costes. No es Palin quien lo dice, son dos tipos partidarios del Plan de Obama. Ed Morrissey en HotAir también comentó estas opiniones llamativas. Y no, no es lo mismo si una aseguradora privada hace lo mismo: podría cambiar de asegurador, o [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WSJ: VA pushes vets to consider death as an alternative to treatment</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2599184</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WSJ: VA pushes vets to consider death as an alternative to treatment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ObamaCare bill may not contain &#8220;death panels,&#8221; but even Charles Lane and Eugene Robinson at the Washington Post wonder why the bill incentivizes end-of-life consultations with the elderly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ObamaCare bill may not contain &#8220;death panels,&#8221; but even Charles Lane and Eugene Robinson at the Washington Post wonder why the bill incentivizes end-of-life consultations with the elderly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Update: NY Times Finds Town Hall Protesters Not Just White &#38; Irritable, But Ignorant Too &#124; linkthe.com</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2567890</link>
		<dc:creator>Update: NY Times Finds Town Hall Protesters Not Just White &#38; Irritable, But Ignorant Too &#124; linkthe.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Columnist Eugene Robinson and editorial writer Charles Lane of the Washington Post, while slamming Palin&#8217;s &quot;death panels&quot; language as misleading and over-the-top, have also voiced qualms. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Columnist Eugene Robinson and editorial writer Charles Lane of the Washington Post, while slamming Palin&#8217;s &quot;death panels&quot; language as misleading and over-the-top, have also voiced qualms. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Right Angles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Score one for Sarah Palin</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2563535</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Angles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Score one for Sarah Palin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sarah Palin initially caught a lot of guff for using the term &#8220;death panel&#8221; to describe the bureaucrats who would be tasked with saving health-care funds by short-changing the elderly and the disabled. Over the past week, though, her concerns (if not her term) have been adopted by even some liberals. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sarah Palin initially caught a lot of guff for using the term &#8220;death panel&#8221; to describe the bureaucrats who would be tasked with saving health-care funds by short-changing the elderly and the disabled. Over the past week, though, her concerns (if not her term) have been adopted by even some liberals. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bullseye</title>
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		<dc:creator>bullseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The bill, if passed, should be easily discarded as unconstitutional. Pursuit of life, liberty,…

. . .
Is anyone offering Pelosi “end of life” counseling I wonder (I refer to political life, of course).

shaken on August 12, 2009 at 5:42 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

First of all, you are neglecting to take into account that a WISE LATINO WOMAN is now on SCOTUS..
 
As far as your point about Pelosi, judging from her face, she died about 10 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The bill, if passed, should be easily discarded as unconstitutional. Pursuit of life, liberty,…</p>
<p>. . .<br />
Is anyone offering Pelosi “end of life” counseling I wonder (I refer to political life, of course).</p>
<p>shaken on August 12, 2009 at 5:42 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>First of all, you are neglecting to take into account that a WISE LATINO WOMAN is now on SCOTUS..</p>
<p>As far as your point about Pelosi, judging from her face, she died about 10 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: sclemens</title>
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		<dc:creator>sclemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>End of life decisions are made all the time.  Today, they are made by the family in concert with a doctor.  I put in place a do-not-resuscitate order for a loved one and am perfectly at peace that it was the right decision.

The difference is that Dear Leader wants that decision made earlier.  He can then use the money to insure those who are in the country illegally or are too irresponsible to buy their own insurance, even though they have the means. This group accounts for roughly 40 of the 47 million uninsured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>End of life decisions are made all the time.  Today, they are made by the family in concert with a doctor.  I put in place a do-not-resuscitate order for a loved one and am perfectly at peace that it was the right decision.</p>
<p>The difference is that Dear Leader wants that decision made earlier.  He can then use the money to insure those who are in the country illegally or are too irresponsible to buy their own insurance, even though they have the means. This group accounts for roughly 40 of the 47 million uninsured.</p>
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		<title>By: peacenprosperity</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2559647</link>
		<dc:creator>peacenprosperity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;After a lifetime of dieting, I actually, agree with Rush on the exercise myth for losing weight…it’s about limiting calorie intake.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


This is one of the extremely rare things I disagree with Rush about. Rush dismisses exercise but the truth is that Rush is an extremely active person. He plays alot of golf and is constantly on the go. Sure you can say that he&#039;s being flown around the country and chaufferred around in luxury but it is still a very active life. Keep in mind that Rush also has a personal chef and the money to buy the best, healthiest food. I would bet Rush&#039;s chef understands his current diet as well if not better then Rush. When he dismisses exercise he is talking to people who may not have the active life he enjoys. Sure, limiting intake will effect weight but exercise and movement are very important to overall health and to lasting weight loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>After a lifetime of dieting, I actually, agree with Rush on the exercise myth for losing weight…it’s about limiting calorie intake.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is one of the extremely rare things I disagree with Rush about. Rush dismisses exercise but the truth is that Rush is an extremely active person. He plays alot of golf and is constantly on the go. Sure you can say that he&#8217;s being flown around the country and chaufferred around in luxury but it is still a very active life. Keep in mind that Rush also has a personal chef and the money to buy the best, healthiest food. I would bet Rush&#8217;s chef understands his current diet as well if not better then Rush. When he dismisses exercise he is talking to people who may not have the active life he enjoys. Sure, limiting intake will effect weight but exercise and movement are very important to overall health and to lasting weight loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Mocking vs References Sarah Palin vs detractors &#171; DaTechguy&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mocking vs References Sarah Palin vs detractors &#171; DaTechguy&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mention of the secton of the bill in question or of Charles Lane or even Eugene Robinson (a regular guest) who agrees with their assessment of Palin but is suspicious of the section of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: KyMouse</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2559480</link>
		<dc:creator>KyMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Living Wills are a good idea, but I fear that their motives are not good ones.

idahoconservative on August 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not convinced that Living Wills are a good idea, since they were developed through the efforts of euthanasia advocates such as the Hemlock Society. Old folks are still under the impression that hospitals and insurance companies will move heaven and earth to keep them alive, but a Living Will spells out how &lt;em&gt;little&lt;/em&gt; care they are required to provide.

It seems to me that a better alternative is the Will to Live that is available through the National Right to Life Committee (nrlc.org) and its affiliates in every state (such as mine, the Kentucky Right to Life Association).

One problem with Living Wills is that the language in them can be re-defined by one&#039;s state legislature over time. What you spell out in a Living Will may not hold up over time, if your legislators redefine, say, &quot;heroic measures&quot; or other terms.

Another problem is that people sign them when they are comparatively healthy and think that they would never want to be &quot;hooked up to a machine,&quot; only to find that when that day comes, they want very much to remain alive long enough to see their just-born great-grandchild. Conditions that seem intolerable now may become acceptable to us when they are all that stands between us and the grave.

An elderly relative of mine has been saying that he does not want to receive nourishment or water through a tube, but wants to die &quot;peacefully,&quot; like Terry Schaivo. Although I&#039;ve explained to him that Terry died a horrifying, painful and slow death, he refuses to believe it. He says, &quot;Well, when that time comes, if it&#039;s that awful for me, the doctors will listen to you and not what I signed.&quot;

Don&#039;t believe it, I tell him. The mother of a co-worker signed a Living Will that prohibited nutrition and water by tube; and even though she begged for food and water, the doctors stuck by the document. It took her six days to die, and for much of that time, she was crying. There wasn&#039;t a damn thing her loved ones could do for her. Not legally, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Living Wills are a good idea, but I fear that their motives are not good ones.</p>
<p>idahoconservative on August 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM
</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced that Living Wills are a good idea, since they were developed through the efforts of euthanasia advocates such as the Hemlock Society. Old folks are still under the impression that hospitals and insurance companies will move heaven and earth to keep them alive, but a Living Will spells out how <em>little</em> care they are required to provide.</p>
<p>It seems to me that a better alternative is the Will to Live that is available through the National Right to Life Committee (nrlc.org) and its affiliates in every state (such as mine, the Kentucky Right to Life Association).</p>
<p>One problem with Living Wills is that the language in them can be re-defined by one&#8217;s state legislature over time. What you spell out in a Living Will may not hold up over time, if your legislators redefine, say, &#8220;heroic measures&#8221; or other terms.</p>
<p>Another problem is that people sign them when they are comparatively healthy and think that they would never want to be &#8220;hooked up to a machine,&#8221; only to find that when that day comes, they want very much to remain alive long enough to see their just-born great-grandchild. Conditions that seem intolerable now may become acceptable to us when they are all that stands between us and the grave.</p>
<p>An elderly relative of mine has been saying that he does not want to receive nourishment or water through a tube, but wants to die &#8220;peacefully,&#8221; like Terry Schaivo. Although I&#8217;ve explained to him that Terry died a horrifying, painful and slow death, he refuses to believe it. He says, &#8220;Well, when that time comes, if it&#8217;s that awful for me, the doctors will listen to you and not what I signed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe it, I tell him. The mother of a co-worker signed a Living Will that prohibited nutrition and water by tube; and even though she begged for food and water, the doctors stuck by the document. It took her six days to die, and for much of that time, she was crying. There wasn&#8217;t a damn thing her loved ones could do for her. Not legally, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Aylios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aylios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Obama, making soylent green a reality. He IS the one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Obama, making soylent green a reality. He IS the one.</p>
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		<title>By: landlines</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2559340</link>
		<dc:creator>landlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Interestingly, it only took Sarah Palin &lt;i&gt;two words&lt;/i&gt; to make understandable the debacle which the entire cabal of Democrats needed 1000 pages to describe!!&lt;/b&gt;

So who&#039;s really smarter??

(HINT: It ain&#039;t the Washington crowd.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Interestingly, it only took Sarah Palin <i>two words</i> to make understandable the debacle which the entire cabal of Democrats needed 1000 pages to describe!!</b></p>
<p>So who&#8217;s really smarter??</p>
<p>(HINT: It ain&#8217;t the Washington crowd.)</p>
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		<title>By: Khun Joe</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2559304</link>
		<dc:creator>Khun Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soylent Green is people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soylent Green is people!</p>
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		<title>By: BadShot</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2559258</link>
		<dc:creator>BadShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelosi Frank &amp; Dodd...Winkin&#039; Blinkin&#039; &amp; Nod...yeah, that works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelosi Frank &amp; Dodd&#8230;Winkin&#8217; Blinkin&#8217; &amp; Nod&#8230;yeah, that works.</p>
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		<title>By: Knott Buyinit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knott Buyinit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sanitation engineer = garbage worker

pre-owned vehicles = used cars

full-figured = fat

coalition of stake-holders = death panel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sanitation engineer = garbage worker</p>
<p>pre-owned vehicles = used cars</p>
<p>full-figured = fat</p>
<p>coalition of stake-holders = death panel</p>
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		<title>By: Mommynator</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2558191</link>
		<dc:creator>Mommynator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a HUGE difference between the government advising you to off yourself (and providing the means to do it) and a doctor telling you that you are terminal and laying out end of life care, including palliatives and hospice, then letting you decide what you want.

HUGE difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a HUGE difference between the government advising you to off yourself (and providing the means to do it) and a doctor telling you that you are terminal and laying out end of life care, including palliatives and hospice, then letting you decide what you want.</p>
<p>HUGE difference.</p>
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		<title>By: MassVictim</title>
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		<dc:creator>MassVictim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You force them to acquiesce. You see the government has police power and power of the purse. So if you don’t want to play by the rules…well what happens when you don’t pay your taxes?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You end up in the President&#039;s Cabinet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You force them to acquiesce. You see the government has police power and power of the purse. So if you don’t want to play by the rules…well what happens when you don’t pay your taxes?</p></blockquote>
<p>You end up in the President&#8217;s Cabinet.</p>
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		<title>By: plainjane</title>
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		<dc:creator>plainjane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I already discuss issues like this with my doctor for all treatments....why do they need to be paid extra, it is part of a regular visit....and WHY does the government want to make it a 5 year obligation?????? Yes, I will be using my social security in the next 5 years....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I already discuss issues like this with my doctor for all treatments&#8230;.why do they need to be paid extra, it is part of a regular visit&#8230;.and WHY does the government want to make it a 5 year obligation?????? Yes, I will be using my social security in the next 5 years&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: xblade</title>
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		<dc:creator>xblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, can anyone tell me how many medical innovations, cures, treatments, etc for all those now treatable diseases Ann speaks of that medicare is responsible for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, can anyone tell me how many medical innovations, cures, treatments, etc for all those now treatable diseases Ann speaks of that medicare is responsible for?</p>
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		<title>By: xblade</title>
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		<dc:creator>xblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But when you take 8% from the employee and 8% from the employer for 40 years in the promise that you are going to provide Medicare - it’s the morale thing to honor that - don’t ya think?

katablog.com&lt;/blockquote&gt;

More importantly, if you stopped taking that money from people, there would little need for medicare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But when you take 8% from the employee and 8% from the employer for 40 years in the promise that you are going to provide Medicare &#8211; it’s the morale thing to honor that &#8211; don’t ya think?</p>
<p>katablog.com</p></blockquote>
<p>More importantly, if you stopped taking that money from people, there would little need for medicare.</p>
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		<title>By: xblade</title>
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		<dc:creator>xblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Before Medicare? People had nothing and just died from very treatable reasons, very early in life.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How did Medicare fix that? Medicare is for the elderly, not people who are very early in life. Therefore, the people who were dying very early in life from so-called very treatable reasons would still be dying early in life from those same very treatable reasons.

But that point aside, your entire premise is wrong. People were not going without care before Medicare came along. I guess in your world, the streets were littered with the bodies of the elderly dead until the benevolent hand of big government stepped in to save the day. I&#039;m guessing Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny live there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Before Medicare? People had nothing and just died from very treatable reasons, very early in life.</p></blockquote>
<p>How did Medicare fix that? Medicare is for the elderly, not people who are very early in life. Therefore, the people who were dying very early in life from so-called very treatable reasons would still be dying early in life from those same very treatable reasons.</p>
<p>But that point aside, your entire premise is wrong. People were not going without care before Medicare came along. I guess in your world, the streets were littered with the bodies of the elderly dead until the benevolent hand of big government stepped in to save the day. I&#8217;m guessing Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny live there too.</p>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone yet made the connection between “end of life counseling” and the immediacy of the Baby Boomers soon to be of “counseling age”? This must be where the savings come in, that projected Social Security expenditures will take a nose-dive when the Boomers are allowed to just go away rather than get expensive medical treatments and no longer receive a monthly check.

Robert17 on August 12, 2009 at 8:06 PM

2 birds; 1 stone 
it is blatant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone yet made the connection between “end of life counseling” and the immediacy of the Baby Boomers soon to be of “counseling age”? This must be where the savings come in, that projected Social Security expenditures will take a nose-dive when the Boomers are allowed to just go away rather than get expensive medical treatments and no longer receive a monthly check.</p>
<p>Robert17 on August 12, 2009 at 8:06 PM</p>
<p>2 birds; 1 stone<br />
it is blatant</p>
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		<title>By: Robert17</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone yet made the connection between &quot;end of life counseling&quot; and the immediacy of the Baby Boomers soon to be of &quot;counseling age&quot;? This must be where the savings come in, that projected Social Security expenditures will take a nose-dive when the Boomers are allowed to just go away rather than get expensive medical treatments &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; no longer receive a monthly check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone yet made the connection between &#8220;end of life counseling&#8221; and the immediacy of the Baby Boomers soon to be of &#8220;counseling age&#8221;? This must be where the savings come in, that projected Social Security expenditures will take a nose-dive when the Boomers are allowed to just go away rather than get expensive medical treatments <strong>and</strong> no longer receive a monthly check.</p>
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		<title>By: csmats</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2556380</link>
		<dc:creator>csmats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would be the end result of &quot;limiting...choices&quot; to &quot;technology...that can prolong life&quot; in order to &quot;reduce end-of-life spending&quot; if not...well...&quot;death&quot;?

And if such decisions are not to be made by a &quot;panel&quot;, then by whom?  A spin of the Thunderdome wheel?

Yes, the term &quot;death panel&quot; is inflammatory.  But so was the slogan &quot;Bush lied, people died.&quot;  At least the former is, by at least one Washington Post liberal&#039;s reckoning, grounded in truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be the end result of &#8220;limiting&#8230;choices&#8221; to &#8220;technology&#8230;that can prolong life&#8221; in order to &#8220;reduce end-of-life spending&#8221; if not&#8230;well&#8230;&#8221;death&#8221;?</p>
<p>And if such decisions are not to be made by a &#8220;panel&#8221;, then by whom?  A spin of the Thunderdome wheel?</p>
<p>Yes, the term &#8220;death panel&#8221; is inflammatory.  But so was the slogan &#8220;Bush lied, people died.&#8221;  At least the former is, by at least one Washington Post liberal&#8217;s reckoning, grounded in truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominion</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/12/eugene-robinson-also-wonders-about-section-1233/comment-page-3/#comment-2556035</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me this all has a very eerie &lt;em&gt;Logan&#039;s Run&lt;/em&gt; feel to it.  Where do we report to get our palm flowers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me this all has a very eerie <em>Logan&#8217;s Run</em> feel to it.  Where do we report to get our palm flowers?</p>
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