CNN poll: Palin’s net favorable rating at -9
posted at 5:20 pm on August 12, 2009 by Allahpundit
The good news? Fox News and WaPo had her at -13 a few weeks ago. The bad news? Given the trend lines, it’s now obvious that her resignation has cost her some national support.
Thirty-nine percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Wednesday have a favorable opinion of the former Alaska governor and last year’s Republican vice presidential nominee. That’s down seven points from a poll conducted in May, and it’s also nine points lower than the 48 percent who now say they now view Palin unfavorably. Forty-three percent viewed Palin negatively in May.
“Most of that change has come among Republicans and conservatives,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “GOP voters still like Palin — two-thirds continue to have a favorable view of her — but she is not as wildly popular among GOPers as she was in the spring, when eight in ten Republicans had a favorable view of her.”…
“A 39 percent favorable rating makes it that much tougher for Palin to become president should she decide to run in 2012. Her favorable rating is almost identical to the numbers that former vice president Dan Quayle got just after leaving office in 1993,” says Holland.
The margin of error for the Republican sample is 6.5 points but these numbers do jibe with what Fox News found: In that poll too, 67 percent of Republicans viewed her favorably. Most pols have their polling ups and downs over time (see, e.g., Hillary Clinton) but so far it’s been a downhill slide for the ‘Cuda. My sense is that the media/SNL caricature of her is so vivid in the public imagination that it’ll be unusually difficult for her to undo the bad impression; even the “death panel” comment might cost her, especially with fellow Republicans like Isakson and Lisa Murkowski spinning it as “nuts” and offensive. Exit question which I don’t think I’ve ever asked before: If she decides she’s momentarily too radioactive to win the nomination and bows out of 2012, whom do the Palinistas break for? I can’t see them being real thrilled with either Romney or Huck. Does some Palin-esque dark horse jump in once she decides not to run in hopes of snapping up her base? If so, er, who is it?
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She’ll run if she’s drafted. If I read her correctly she wants the American people to determine that … not her. By that I mean she wants to give us the choice of who runs, not like today, where the politicians tell us who’s running.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Oh… I see what you meant about the no mention…
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:20 PM
No cam do.
Please. I’ve changed enough diapers in my life. And cam do is particularly vile.
Loxodonta on August 12, 2009 at 10:24 PM
I tried to post the other evening.
I was logged in.
The message I got was “you are not allowed to post”.
I got to thinking they may not have liked my mindless Barbara Boxer drivel the other night.
I would assume at least that I would receive notification that I was now the way of getalife.
Lanceman on August 12, 2009 at 10:26 PM
She’ll run if she’s drafted. If I read her correctly she
So she is willing to serve which is her selfless attitude…we just have to tell her we need her
She isn’t ambitious she is patriotic and gifted…
Interesting…there is so much hate and anger out there against her from a small rabid group..it worries me sometimes…
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:27 PM
I tried to post the other evening.
That happens to me too and what I have to do is log out and then log back in…
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:28 PM
In 2012, I want to see these moderates with their un-Quaylizable candidates put their winning strategies into effect. (I strongly suspect Obama’s getting a second term, regardless.)
ddrintn on August 12, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Drats! My prayers went unanswered. Must pray more fervently.
And send Ed more dirt on you.
Loxodonta on August 12, 2009 at 10:30 PM
She couldn’t even finish one term as governor. Why would we expect she would be able to do a full term as VP or….gulp president?
It’s better that she stays retired.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:32 PM
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Oh, Allah knew about Palin’s spot on the blogger poll. He just didn’t see fit to include that info in this post about Palin’s “decline” based on this poll.
Wonder why? Hmmmm.
cs89 on August 12, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Holy schmolly! This thread has been up how long???
Tell me again why I need professional help for my girl crush on the Devine MS S?????
Chewy the Lab on August 12, 2009 at 10:34 PM
With the uprising he’s facing only eight months into his first term?
No … I think the cat’s out of the bag on Obama. It can only get worse for him.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Yeah, when the GOP is just brimming with sure-fire winners otherwise.
The moderates will get their chance again in 2012. It’ll take another ass-kicking to discredit them forever.
ddrintn on August 12, 2009 at 10:35 PM
No problem. If she runs don’t vote for her.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:35 PM
I didn’t understand the first thing you said…about Obama do you really think so? Don’t you think hell be hurt severly by the Apologize for America World Tour, the Lying and Astroturfing re Obamacare, the Porkuous, the Takeover of the cars COs and banks , the unethical people he’s brought to Washington and there is so much more and it’s only his firt 6 months
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:36 PM
He can have all the dirt that’s on the floorboards of my pick’m'up truck.
Lanceman on August 12, 2009 at 10:36 PM
AP re-enters target acquisition mode.
Stephen M on August 12, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Remember how everyone thought the same about Clinton in 1993-94? Same script, different characters. The GOP candidate will probably be Romney (“It’s His Turn!”) Obama will win at least 40 states.
ddrintn on August 12, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Tried that several times.
Thought maybe Obama got me somehow.
Lanceman on August 12, 2009 at 10:37 PM
What makes Palin more conservative than say McCain?
Why is she the conservative rock?
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Oh, I Forgot,
“Death Panels!” (WHAAAAAAAAAAAhAAAAAA.)
Callin’ a spade a spade, ubetcha! You go girl!
I’ve heard a lot about the recoil from that phrase, but she couldn’t be more right!
Chewy the Lab on August 12, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Allow me to introduce you to our latest troll, if you are late to the party.
He does not think to highly of our men in uniform…….
HornetSting on August 12, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Yeah but Clinton didn’t have democrats and independents screaming at his people in Congress to stop socializing the country either.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:39 PM
If you have to ask that, you must pull your head out of your a$$ more often and come up for air.
HornetSting on August 12, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Somehow, I don’t see people claiming how wonderful the economy was under ‘Bozo ten years from now.
Lanceman on August 12, 2009 at 10:39 PM
“He does not think to highly of our men in uniform…….”
Heh, I try not aim most of my criticism at the top of the chain (Bush.)
But I do want to defund the military.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Compare/contrast … do the math.
un-Quaylize your mind.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:40 PM
I’m pretty sure we are all on Obamas “enemies list” I’m sure we’ve all passed an email to someone in an attempt to educate and it has ben forwarded by that Lib a** who gets on your nerves!
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:42 PM
I always go back to an on-the-money quote by J. R. Dunn in an American Thinker piece:
Article is here, by the way.
ddrintn on August 12, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Why? Wouldn’t it be better to defund entitlement programs first?
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Seriously….why does Sarah Palin= Ronaldus Magnus?
ps- Reagan sucked but some of his rhetoric was good.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Yeah, but I’m so full of profundities unlike everyone else, here/sarc
Lanceman on August 12, 2009 at 10:44 PM
That article is based on politics as usual. Palin is anything but politics as usual. I think she’s shown quite clearly that the Republicans need her … and she doesn’t need them.
She calls the shots.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:45 PM
She believes that it is the individual that makes America great. She believes in free markets and limited government. She believes in state sovereignty. She loves her family and her country. She sacrificed to serve both. She is an optimist. She knows that man is flawed and that the rule of law is more important than the rule of men. She does not believe that America is to blame for all the evils of the world. She looks at people and sees potential. She sees the individual as the smallest minority. She thinks America’s best days are yet to come. She does not see America in decline. She does not view the people of this country as being one step away from being in soup lines. She is not a victim. She is a fighter.
Contrast that to x.
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 10:45 PM
darwin,
All of them? I doubt that would happen, but you do it slowly over time.
Keep in mind Bush made some new ones so why did you vote for him?
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:45 PM
This is a good write up…
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/03/who-is-sarah-palin.html
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Speaking of pickups, are you available on Tweeter or Facebook?
Loxodonta on August 12, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Why did Reagan suck? Were you even of voting age, or productive age when he was president?
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Gore … Kerry.
Need I say more?
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Allow me to introduce you to our latest troll, if you are late to the party.
He does not think to highly of our men in uniform…….
HornetSting on August 12, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Wish I’d seen this before my sincere response…sigh…
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Even Reagan left the U.S. Government significantly larger and more intrusive than before he entered office. Every U.S. president leaves the country worse off than it was before he entered as a rule.
Ronald Reagan: An Autopsy
by Murray N. Rothbard
“Has the Reagan Administration done nothing good in its eight ghastly years on earth, you might ask? Yes, it has done one good thing; it has repealed the despotic 55-mile-per-hour highway speed limit. And that is it.”
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Wait a minute. Hold everything!
I can’t format here on HA and you expect me to figger out tweeter and facebook? Keep dreamin’;)
Lanceman on August 12, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Facebook is a blast….you should try it, join the fun.
HornetSting on August 12, 2009 at 10:49 PM
In this case, age doesn’t matter: it’s compeltely unproductive.
Loxodonta on August 12, 2009 at 10:50 PM
I don’t think the RNCc has that influence over us anymore and a lot of us have stopped sending them money and now send it to SarahPac
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:50 PM
darwin,
Ya how did stopping Gore work out? Two fake wars, a larger military-industrial complex, more entitlements, a war of terror, yadadada, and MONSTROUS DEMOCRATIC MAJORITIES.
So much for the 1994 revolution after the Bush regime.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM
I’d love to see Palin run and win in 2012. I don’t know that she even wants to do that. But I do think that right now there’s just too much opposition from within the GOP for that to happen. I don’t really care about what loopy lefties think.
It will take another embarrassing defeat at the polls to rid ourselves of the persnickety wing of the GOP.
ddrintn on August 12, 2009 at 10:52 PM
I’m very computer-illiterate. Everything I know is trial-and-error, or blatantblue!
Lanceman on August 12, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Wow…putting this on a card and laminating it…
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Oh please. Neither you or I have the security clearances required to determine if anything was “fake”.
Oh wait … you’re not a truther, are you?
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:54 PM
You drink from the poisoned lew rockwell…well. Sad thing is I bet you think you are anti establishment and so independent thinking. Sub culture is so monoculture.
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Darwin-
No I’m not a truther. heh. I meant fake in three senses.
1) Iraq didn’t attack us so there is no one to actually fight.
2) No WMD there and nothing to do with 9/11
3) Th evidence was hyped to get into the war.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Thanks!?
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Spathi has a point, though. The Republican Congress lacked backbone; the Bush administration wasn’t really conservative. DemLite made Obama possible.
ddrintn on August 12, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Ron Paul…bot
And just who is Ron Paul?
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 10:57 PM
daesleeper,
And what do you think you are since you have declared what you think I am?
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Yep, but here’s the deal (shhh! don’t tell anyone.)If they really, really want to get our names and kick our (youknows), or at least keep an eye on our subversive activities, HELLO IT’S TOO DAMN LATE: THAT HORSE DONE LEFT THE BARN.
Therefore, my comment to the obambite brownshirt mob who are monitoring these sights (hyperbole for those of you who don’t have sarc radar.)Maybe if you preface your remarks with, “I’m not a conservative, but…” they will be fooled and you can than post your coded message to those that want to illegitimately usurp THE ONE’s Power.
Oh, BTW: “The blue dog flies low over the thorn bush on Friday, by the sea.” (wink wink, nod, nod. You know who you are and what this means…so take your posts and accomplish the mission!)
Chewy the Lab on August 12, 2009 at 10:58 PM
At some point they’ll face reality and understand that they no longer have control of the GOP and it’s base. They think they have control right now … but their wheels are spinning.
How can they keep Palin out without alienating a large and growing Palin support base?
They know damn well she doesn’t need them to raise money or draw crowds. She is self sufficient and has the message that people actually want to hear and have been craving.
They don’t.
I may be overly optimistic but nothing I have seen so far tells me whatever power they think they have is enough to derail Palin if she wants to run.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 10:49 PM
New commenter?
Dunno if anybody told you before you signed up, but this is a reality-based conservative blog.
If you’re gonna post that the Reagan Administration only did “one good thing,” you may be in the wrong place.
Some of us here remember Carter, Reagan, and the difference between stagflation and one of the longest economic booms in history. Others managed to read about it.
cs89 on August 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Hey, Hawkdriver is on the olbermann blog….
HornetSting on August 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM
yes :)
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 11:00 PM
I heard you were a douchebag sperm bank. But, you know, rumors…..
HornetSting on August 12, 2009 at 11:00 PM
I have great confidence in you. I am deeply hidden at Facebook, but if you can log into Tweeter, you can find me, and I would be happy to lead you astray. Do you like deep sea fishies?
ps: AP is beta. BB is gamma. If you learn from BB, you’re zeta. Have you no shame?
Loxodonta on August 12, 2009 at 11:00 PM
I picked just one of your many illiterate posts on this thread.
You managed to cram in:
1. A grammatical error in the first sentence.
2. A non-sensical reference to “Bush.” News flash; George W. Bush is no longer president.
3. A comment about how you want to defund the military.
Either work harder to improve your limited skills, or give up.
massrighty on August 12, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Deeply interested in truth. I read voraciously and call it like I see it.
LewRockwell’s site is often ‘dugg’, that is enough for me.
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Ron Paul should have apologized for his Afghanistan vote on the basis that HELL NO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES not get to respond to an attack.
They’re too incompetent to be trusted trying to do a task. Better off letting the states defend themselves even if all they have is police.
Vietnam started because we allowed the Federal Government to draft people into slavery based on someone attacking our ship (possibly dubious claim) so we can’t trust the Federal Government to do anything.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:01 PM
I think that the attack of 9\11 made Bush’s presidency very unique…I wonder what his presidency have been like if not for that?
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 11:02 PM
I mean only having police in the sense that the president has generally taken over the National Guard for all practical purposes.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Better put than Spaghetti’s. I agree.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Probably passed amnesty by now
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:01 PM
And here I thought the War Department was part of the Founder’s original government, and self-defense was a central constitutional principle…
/sarc
cs89 on August 12, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Chewy I don’t know why that made me think of “I’m not a real doctor but I play one on t.v.”
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Provision in the ‘stimulus’ bill? Gives the legislature the ability to override/ignore the governor?
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 11:05 PM
massrighty,
Sorry I was just being careless, but I assure you I have a complete understanding of English sentence structure. I’ll be sure to grammar-police your posts too though!
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:05 PM
I totally agree…
CCRWM on August 12, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Yes, lox. Flounder and snapper.
Sometime, when I’m not too lazy, I’ll try the tweeter hogwash.
In the meantime, I gotta get to bed. Gotta be up bright and early to put the headphones on and tell people that I can’t listen to Nancy Pelosi and them at the same time.
As far as BB, I ain’t going there.
You weren’t here when I accused Knucklehead of IM-ing Keith Overbite.
Nite, pheasants:)>
Lanceman on August 12, 2009 at 11:07 PM
“Either work harder to improve your limited skills, or give up.”
You separated your compound predicate with a comma there.
That was incorrect MASS.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:07 PM
daesleeper,
The president can take control of all national guard units. I’m not sure what law allows it, but they’ve been doing it for a long time.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Our executive branch is effectively like a king.
That’s why you see such pissed off reactions when the other side gains control. Conservatives are becoming anti-government slightly anyway.
It was kind of the opposite when GWB was in office. We had anti-wiretapping protests, anti-occupation protests, leftists storming Bush’s social security townhall meetings, etc so we had all sorts of demonstrations then too.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Take your time and be thorough. Do not use a search engine and just brainstorm here what you think ‘conservative’ means.
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 11:17 PM
If you click “Preview” when that happens, then look at the preview, you’ll see that it shows as being posted by “Anonymous.” Most likely, your session has expired in the HotAir database, but the cookie on your browser shows up as still logged in. It’s not until you try to preview or post that your expired session catches up with you and either shows you as Anonymous or give you the message that you are not allowed to post.
Bottom line: Click “Logout,” then log back in. Everything gets updated, and you’re good to go.
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on August 12, 2009 at 11:19 PM
daesleeper,
Well as long as they want to destroy the Federal Government, then I’m for it.
There are good anti-imperialist liberals out there worth listening too. I already pointed out that Glen Greenwald’s podcasts are awesome.
No reason to “wallow” on LRC’s site all the time when there are all sorts of anti-government viewspoints out there.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:22 PM
I asked you to describe here what you think conservatism is. I understand that you might not want to do what someone on the Internet asks you to. I do not understand the post you made in response to my original query.
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 11:28 PM
What a scary thought! Romney’s an impressive man in a lot of ways, but the next person to win the presidency is going to have to run as a reformer. I don’t think Romney can pull it off. He looks and sounds too much like every other politician in existence.
I don’t know if Palin will be the 2012 candidate, but it better be someone like her: principled, conservative, ready to clean house even in her own party, bold enough to attack bad ideas. All the others won’t stand up for their principles, because they might get criticism.
If we offer more of the same, Obama may well get his second term, in spite of how bad he’s screwing up right now.
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on August 12, 2009 at 11:29 PM
I could care less what a CNN poll says!
Hobbes on August 12, 2009 at 11:34 PM
daesleeper,
I think conservatism is in the eye of the beholder. There is all types out there so it’s too hard to define.
However, the CATO Institute has rejected the label conservative because they think it means, to a degree anyway, a reactionary to change when they are an institute advocating certain causes. I kind of like that. Hmmmm I guess I would like it as the “Leave-Me-Alone” coalition although that is clearly not what all the GOP thinks. The Dems are definitely better on anti-imperialism, civil liberties, wire-tapping, opposing Patriot Act, gay rights, etc etc.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:34 PM
There “are”
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Have you seen Dan Riehl’s work on the bloggers that were making her life hell? May trace back to Obama stimulus money. Stay tuned.
tessa on August 12, 2009 at 11:35 PM
No Matter where her poll numbers are at- I’ll still walk side by side with this American.
Just look at the top 25 top conservative list that is out=Ed is on this….where is sarah palin?. @2. not bad in my thinking.
hawkman on August 12, 2009 at 11:36 PM
That will be the only way we lose. Too many people are doing the reading and research about Obama that they should have done before the election. The real Obama is becoming unmasked and quite a few people are freaking.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Polls can be interesting, but in the end anything that costs nothing ain’t worth a lot. That’s why elections can still be surprizing – it’s the one poll that really does cost us.
The power of Palin is that she’s the one pol who actually does what she says. That leaves her with a core charm that she can heat up for the electorate when a future opportunity occurs.
Do I want to see her as President? Well, it’s premature to be discussing 2012 when we’re only six months in to the Immaculate Presidency. In the meantime, I am delighted to see her continuing to engage in the political sphere.
Cricket624 on August 12, 2009 at 11:38 PM
I wish the Freedom Watch Show would get on mainstream Fox News. That’s a good show! Get rid of Bill-O the clown and Hannitizer.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Look, I know you mean well and believe what you say … but you’re absolutely out in left field.
Tell you what. Go to the Communist Party USA website and read about their issues and platform and tell me if you can tell the difference between them and the democrats.
You’re very misinformed.
darwin on August 12, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Thanks for playing. You have outed yourself on DAY ONE.
You come here and claim some sort of moral superiority while impugning conservatives. Yet, you cannot or will not define conservatives. Your indifference is a confession. You are not above the fray, nay, you are below it.
Benefit of the doubt time is over.
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Look, Palin has been off the tube and out of sight except for a few net postings.
Do you really think these polls will stay this way if she starts touring around the lower 48 speaking in support engagements for Conservative candidates? The MSM will be forced to show at least part of her speeches and the press will have to cover it as well.
If she sticks to a simple, Conservative message and gets off a few good zingers on Obama and his band of idiots, then those negative numbers will change. Why? Because the entire message on MSM has been negative. Its amazing her numbers aren’t worse considering they take pot shots at her every day…. even so-called conservative geniuses.
If they were all so smart, why weren’t they out front on this teaparty movement… they were pooh poohing it. Who do you think caused this whole health care uprising? It sure wasn’t any Republican politician… it was the radio and internet Conservatives who raised the alarm and the grass roots… so, who has the hearts of the grass roots? Not Romney, not Gingerich, not Huckabee….etc., etc. etc.
Be patient, there’s lots of time for Obama and the Democrats to hang themselves on their own petard… then it will be time to be aggressive with Conservative ideas and an agenda.
PhilipJames on August 12, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Gay Rights?
Civil Liberties?
Anti-Imperialism?
Hmmm
And you call yourself a libertarian while at the same time suggesting the Dems are better than the Republicans on these issues?
Upstater85 on August 12, 2009 at 11:43 PM
darwin,
Ya but Bush murdered hundreds of thousands of of Iraqis. He is a war criminal. I will not vote vote or support Obama, but on the same token, how bad he is no matter how bad that is will not convince me to support GWB or anyone trying to carry on his agenda.
Obama could be nationalizing the golf courses like Chavez, and I still would not vote for McCain or Palin or anyone who supported McCain.
Right now the GOP is retooling into an anti-government party…hopefully.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 PM
I wish the Freedom Watch Show would get on mainstream Fox News. That’s a good show! Get rid of Bill-O the clown and Hannitizer.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Upstater85 on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 PM
HornetSting on August 12, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Thanks for the intro–troll that slams the military—can go stand in front of a full length mirror and screw themselves
flyoverboy on August 12, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Credibility, you have none.
daesleeper on August 12, 2009 at 11:46 PM
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