CNN poll: Palin’s net favorable rating at -9
posted at 5:20 pm on August 12, 2009 by Allahpundit
The good news? Fox News and WaPo had her at -13 a few weeks ago. The bad news? Given the trend lines, it’s now obvious that her resignation has cost her some national support.
Thirty-nine percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Wednesday have a favorable opinion of the former Alaska governor and last year’s Republican vice presidential nominee. That’s down seven points from a poll conducted in May, and it’s also nine points lower than the 48 percent who now say they now view Palin unfavorably. Forty-three percent viewed Palin negatively in May.
“Most of that change has come among Republicans and conservatives,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “GOP voters still like Palin — two-thirds continue to have a favorable view of her — but she is not as wildly popular among GOPers as she was in the spring, when eight in ten Republicans had a favorable view of her.”…
“A 39 percent favorable rating makes it that much tougher for Palin to become president should she decide to run in 2012. Her favorable rating is almost identical to the numbers that former vice president Dan Quayle got just after leaving office in 1993,” says Holland.
The margin of error for the Republican sample is 6.5 points but these numbers do jibe with what Fox News found: In that poll too, 67 percent of Republicans viewed her favorably. Most pols have their polling ups and downs over time (see, e.g., Hillary Clinton) but so far it’s been a downhill slide for the ‘Cuda. My sense is that the media/SNL caricature of her is so vivid in the public imagination that it’ll be unusually difficult for her to undo the bad impression; even the “death panel” comment might cost her, especially with fellow Republicans like Isakson and Lisa Murkowski spinning it as “nuts” and offensive. Exit question which I don’t think I’ve ever asked before: If she decides she’s momentarily too radioactive to win the nomination and bows out of 2012, whom do the Palinistas break for? I can’t see them being real thrilled with either Romney or Huck. Does some Palin-esque dark horse jump in once she decides not to run in hopes of snapping up her base? If so, er, who is it?
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If Obama is continuing these programs, he belongs in jail not the white house.
Spathi on August 13, 2009 at 1:45 AM
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/rendition701/timeline/timeline_1.html#
Anyway…
jhffmn on August 13, 2009 at 1:46 AM
Sarah took the ObamaCare issue out of Obama’s hands, wrote a big fat “F” on it, crumpled it up and threw it in the waste basket and said “REDO IT.”
ConservativeTony on August 13, 2009 at 1:51 AM
Renditions Buffoonery
By Scott Horton
Ya….I thought so. That story was old. Scott Horton of Harper’s magazine debunked that bogus LATimes story, which seemed fishy from the get-go. Obama maintains that he is committed to ending extraordinary rendition, and as far as we know he has.
Of course if he hasn’t, there is a nice jail cell waiting for him
Spathi on August 13, 2009 at 1:52 AM
jhffmn,
uhhhhh….well let’s hope Obama is not doing it.
I wasn’t really thinking about that issue when I voted Constitution Party. I was more thinking about spending and the wars, which I didn’t expect much from Obama. But had some leftist gotten in my face and urged me to vote Obama on that issue alone, I just may have done it.
I would find that highly offensive as would many other people who might be inclined to support him, but as he seems to not be doing it.
Only time will tell.
Spathi on August 13, 2009 at 1:56 AM
Sarah Palin is 100% correct.
The words “final solution” didn’t explicitly mention genocide in the Nazi manifesto, but that doesn’t mean genocide wasn’t its aim.
In a godless liberal world, the elderly are euthanized and the handicapped are aborted in the womb.
cyclo on August 13, 2009 at 1:56 AM
The rookie does have something to teach…
to Obama….
…Transparency.
Saltysam on August 13, 2009 at 2:11 AM
The ‘Second American Revolution’ Has Begun
Luka on August 13, 2009 at 2:16 AM
Ignore Spathi doing a redirection of the tread again! If Spathi wants a military thread they can go to War Porn get lost troll!
heshtesh on August 13, 2009 at 2:22 AM
As Obama crosses the Rubicon, Palin crosses the Delaware.
Saltysam on August 13, 2009 at 2:27 AM
heshtesh on August 13, 2009 at 2:22 AM
Palin’s piece comes fully footnoted. Did you notice?
The entire media propaganda apparatchiks will be needed to handle this one.
Saltysam on August 13, 2009 at 2:30 AM
Okay, lets\’s try what must be one of your favorite sites–”Salon”:
“Obama fails his first test on civil liberties and accountability — resoundingly and disgracefully”
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/02/09/state_secrets/
lovingmyUSA on August 13, 2009 at 2:42 AM
Thanks already read it at c4p,think all the media and Libs will have thier DRIP TRAYS on later today. You know they are going to be foaming at the mouth. Hope they have someone standing by with a rifle just in case it’s rabis.
heshtesh on August 13, 2009 at 2:43 AM
Rabis=Rabies
heshtesh on August 13, 2009 at 2:45 AM
Maybe they will use Spathi to clean up when all the libtards heads explode!
lovingmyUSA on August 13, 2009 at 2:55 AM
Pundon’t, what is your alternative? Who is your choice for the front runner in 2012. I’m listening.
long_cat on August 13, 2009 at 2:59 AM
This is like when my band finishes our first hour long set and they say “you guys ROCK!” and we haven’t even started playing the good stuff yet! I got a feeling Sarah is just about half way through her first with the best yet to come…
FreedomSlave on August 13, 2009 at 3:31 AM
Color me shocked. The most maligned person in the history of the mainstream media has a negative net favorability rating. Ghandi would be at -9 if he had half the S@#$ thrown at him that Palin has had.
Kataklysmic on August 13, 2009 at 4:12 AM
Palin-worshiper
stormen on August 13, 2009 at 1:11 AM
For future trolling,
Palin-worshiper = Palinista.
Upstater85 on August 13, 2009 at 1:13 AM
stormen on August 13, 2009 at 4:30 AM
I am truly grateful for this input from Spathi. Being old and crotchety, I’ve had some difficulty in understanding just what a troll is.
Now I know.
OldEnglish on August 13, 2009 at 4:53 AM
Like I give a flip what those who get thier news from CNN think.
gdonovan on August 13, 2009 at 5:07 AM
The Narrative continues: Anybody But Palin 2012.
Mr. Wednesday Night on August 13, 2009 at 5:17 AM
Reality threading — its whats for breakfast
Bradky on August 13, 2009 at 6:30 AM
palin is dropping bombs on obamacare and obamaenergy.
negative nine or not. she may be behind, but she sure makes it look goood.
ted c on August 13, 2009 at 6:33 AM
roger that. Also consider kathy griffin and levi johnson. CNN will stop at nothing to destroy palin. But, CNN may self destruct as a result. I can’t even tell you what channel those toolbags are on.
ted c on August 13, 2009 at 6:34 AM
whats the point of running a favorable ranking on someone who isn’t in politics atm? Does it mean anything? Is it just a way to get Obama’s numbers out of the front page?
tflst5 on August 13, 2009 at 7:19 AM
I’m not ready to count Palin out but to answer your question…
Lynne Cheney
Rick Santorum
John Bolton
DaMav on August 13, 2009 at 7:31 AM
Just from the hyper-activity of the leftist media over SP I’d say she is on the offensive! They shouldn’t even be bothering with her at this point but she is a smartbomb and they know it…. I don’t think she will run. She is doing her part very well with her new found freedom.
virginiabelle on August 13, 2009 at 8:09 AM
Wow…I don’t know who Jeff Rense is but that web site you linked to is one f’ed up piece of crap.
Goodeye_Closed on August 13, 2009 at 8:24 AM
Quick! Everyone get their comments in before Spathi wakes up!
darwin on August 13, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Guys, can we puhleeze get a Ban Hammer on this idiot, Spathi? He is a Moby/Troll of the lowest order.
kingsjester on August 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM
As much as I love Sarah, the waters are too treacherous to consider her for the top spot.
I think we need a very serious, intellectual person with heaps of charisma with the average person feel that Palin has. I don’t see that person on the horizon yet.
We need shock and awe in 2012 if this nation is to avoid disaster….whether we continue as nation or go down like the USSR really is at stake. In fact our demise could be worse than the Soviet fate. At least they remained somewhat intact. We could implode so absolutely that all that is left is chaos and anarchy and China with the UN’s help would have to come in and reclaim what China has already purchased….the USA.
Goodeye_Closed on August 13, 2009 at 8:39 AM
She’s laying down covering fire for a bunch of gutless wonders who aren’t fit to polish her boots.
alliebobbitt on August 13, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Hey, at least she’s got a megaphone and she’s using it to stir the pot. More than can be said about most, if not all, of our elected Repubs in both houses.
Big John on August 13, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Uh … I don’t think anyone has sailed through more turbulent waters than Palin and she’s come through with flying colors.
Might I suggest Palin? Palin has the attributes that you attribute to Palin and seek.
Palin puts up two Facebook posts and literally throws the entire left into a tizzy … the equivalent of dropping a 2000 pounder on DNC headquarters.
darwin on August 13, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Look, I just read her response to Obama on healthcare and I think by 2012 she’s going to be fine. Don’t know if she’ll run, but I don’t see a problem for her if she does.
I do see a problem with Obama because if he continues spending like this there’s no way he’s getting a second term. I have some advice for him. If you want to save your presidency and probably get a second term- STOP SPENDING NOW! I’m not even that fond of you. In fact if I wanted to be a jerk, I’ll let you dig your own political grave with the deficit spending and phony townhalls. But considering that everything you do affects me I’m telling you to stop.
And for the trolls: it’s official
Bush 8 year deficits = $1.3 trillion
Obama Jan-Aug 2009 deficits = $1.2 trillion
White House 2009 estimate (yes the White House, the one Obama lives in) = $1.8 trillion
If I hear “But Bush spent…” one more freaking time, I’m going to cyber slap you.
xax on August 13, 2009 at 8:57 AM
The bootlick media will be freaking out today about her new posting at Facebook.
In it she says….
Yesterday President Obama responded to my statement that Democratic health care proposals would lead to rationed care; that the sick, the elderly, and the disabled would suffer the most under such rationing; and that under such a system these “unproductive” members of society could face the prospect of government bureaucrats determining whether they deserve health care.
Let’s just watch and see……she aims this at the elderly (who will be unplugged). THEY will defeat this DEATHCARE bill.
1-20-13……how many days is it until Barry/Rahm and the Queen go back to Chi-town?
PappyD61 on August 13, 2009 at 9:01 AM
You are right about all that you say darwin, but truth is, Palin is gonna need even thicker skin than she already has. I trust Sarah on energy policy and taxes….I trust her period.
1) If she runs…she cannot win. For some reason she has become too polarizing. Those horrible interviews and sound bite are too fresh. She needs to learn to beat the media at their own game.
2) 2016 seems more likely
3)2012-2016 are going to go down as the most traumatic times in US history. We will need a George Washington or Abe Lincoln in the Whitehouse and I’m sorry but sarah Palin is not quite there yet.
Goodeye_Closed on August 13, 2009 at 9:03 AM
She needs to learn to beat the media at their own game.
Goodeye_Closed on August 13, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Everybody’s entitled to their opinion, but it kinda looks to me like that’s what she’s doing now.
cs89 on August 13, 2009 at 9:14 AM
Goodeye_Closed,
I could not agree with you more. Palin is terribly polarizing. My two elderly grandmothers, both conservative farmers’ wives, only have antenna TV channels and thus watch CBS and ABC for their news. (Despite my efforts to discourage them.) They both hate Palin. I think she’s got it right on energy and her America-first thinking, she’s obviously resilient, but she blew it quitting the governorship early. I’m as common as anyone, a farmer married to a truck driver, but I wish Palin would quit dropping all the g’s in words. Cute and colloquial is not what we need right now-and, if Palin was a dumpy, unattractive woman, I don’t think we’d be looking at 1000-comment threads. (Or had ever even heard of her at all.) Sorry, I do like her and respect her, but I had to say it.
Cornhusker on August 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM
ahh yes.
The breeding ground of self centered arrogance.
I love you folks that Believe in Zeus & Thor, but not the real God.
I’m speaking of Sarah Palin of course- keeping on topic. ;o)
no offense! ;o)
HoneyWagon on August 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM
She’s not “polarizing” because of what she’s said or done … she’s polarizing because the media said she is.
All it will take is for her to start speaking and getting her message out. She can handle the media and the interviews were a learning experience for her. I guarantee that will never happen again.
I’ll tell you this. If we can’t run a candidate who doesn’t piss off at least some people then that candidate isn’t worth running.
This compromise bullcrap must stop. Run on principles and stick to principles. Quit compromising with the enemy.
darwin on August 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM
That is EXACTLY what they want you to believe and EXACTLY why they do what they do, the way they do it. You bought it, hook, line & sinker.
HoneyWagon on August 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Personally, I would like to see Sarah in the Senate, Where she could deliver a reliable conservative vote. And she would have little trouble defending that seat.
RustBelt on August 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM
At this point, I think Sarah Palin is the only candidate that can win in 2012. As you see in these town hall meetings, it’s the silent majority that, when awoken, can and does make a difference….but they need a reason because they actually BELIEVE in their positions and we have not given them a candidate who mirrors them in recent years. Palin does that. She will anger the dems and MSM, but that is just more of a reason to believe she can do it.
tatersalad on August 13, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Well part of the reason is because of the media but look at conservatives where her support may be in the 60% range.
We’re not talking RINOS here. True conservative love Sarah but are realistic about her chances and the likelyhood that she has what it takes to break through the media and liberal attack dogs and STILL be effective in turning this socialist ship around 180 degrees and lead the country.
Example: Sarah Palin should NOT even mention Perez Hilton’s name much less address something he said or did. That is best left for the tabloids.
I think this arguement is moot. Sarah is probably getting out of public service and will be an effective activist where she can determine where and when she works and is able to put family first….nothing wrong with that.
Goodeye_Closed on August 13, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Don’t take this personally but you need to change your viewing angle.
Sarah Palin controls the media and has them in her back pocket and they don’t know it. She doesn’t need the media, doesn’t need the RNC and is completely self sufficient.
The media and the left have thrown everything they have at her and they failed. Of course they’ll continue to attack but let them. Anything they do will only damage them, not her.
darwin on August 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Isn’t truth refreshing? End of life panel is a new meme. Let’s call it what it is…a DEATH PANEL because it deals with the death of the individual, not length and quality of life. Besides the end of ones life could be tomorrow, so why discuss it at all? Maybe the perception of Palin has diminished because we all know that east coast liberal elite schools are where to get the best education, being an intellectual is far better to discern what’s true, and dodging bullets and plain common sense is so passe!
Palin
Romney
Huck
Jindal
Newt
They are all light years beyond what we have now!
Nalea on August 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Quick! Everyone get their comments in before Spathi wakes up!
darwin on August 13, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Hopefully he’s “dead” tired after the 16 hour shift he put in yesterday antagonizing everyone. Quite the introduction.
heshtesh on August 13, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Romney or Huck? That’s the kind of thinking that gave us McCain. We can do better and we must.
SKYFOX on August 13, 2009 at 11:10 AM
How can you say that?! Her resignation was proof that she is not a quitter!
/sarcasm
Chekote on August 13, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Last Comic Standing called … they said to tell you to sit down.
darwin on August 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Obama quit being a Senator! THAT QUITTER BASTARD!
HoneyWagon on August 13, 2009 at 12:25 PM
The Republican party either gets new life via Palin (true conservatism) or continues to die. There is very little difference between the old guard RINO Congress and classical liberals. Conservatives have not been this energized for a candidate since Reagan. Third parties are usually viewed as spoilers, sapping 5-15% of support from the challenger. However, recent history shows Clinton winning with 37% of the popular vote, Obama had no plurality. Palin can win as an outsider.
conservativedoc on August 13, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Gotta agree with Goodeye here. I know conservatives (including myself) would love to see Sarah become an effective force in 2012, but, unfortunately, I think we’d risk doing more harm than good (both to her and the party) if we put her out there as our nominee before she’s ready, and I can’t see how she’ll possibly be ready by 2012.
I can’t help but think if you want what’s best for the future of the party and for Sarah Palin, you’ll have to hope she has the wisdom to sit out 2012 and wait for a more opportune time to run for President. It’s not like she’s our “only hope.”
cschande on August 13, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Expect more from Sarah on the silly Obama policies.Like her or hate her , everyone seems to know what she says .This is the Democrats worse nightmare , she is free to speak her mind now .Wait till the battle heats up and she says ” I have read the whole bill and tell me what the provision on page xyz means to ” Joe six pack” .The leftist propaganda will erupt on your PLASMA set soon. Money is not going to buy this issue .Brave Americans like SARAH will bring the truth and the people who are trying to fool the American public to light and expose them for what they really are .
ELMO Q on August 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM
BOOTLICK MEDIA Reporter (insert name):
“Mr. President, do Senior Citizens whom you say account for 80% of Medicare costs (NYT article May 09) have a DUTY TO DIE?”
President Obama: (without Teleprompter) “In a word, yes”
Reporter: “Thank you Mr. President.”
IF ONLY one of the gutless wonders in the media would ask.
PappyD61 on August 13, 2009 at 1:22 PM
The candidates themselves didn’t give us McCain; the fact that conservatives couldn’t decide between the two did. I think either of these guys has a solid shot against Obama in 2012. I think the election will be ours to lose.
Our biggest risk will be the same in 2012 as it was in 2008: conservatives split their votes between too many different candidates and the moderates unite around a single RINO, and our second biggest risk is that we nominate someone who shares many of Obama’s flaws (extremely polarizing, lacking substance, and inexperienced).
This is why too many conservative candidates who aren’t ready to face Obama in 2012 (i.e. Palin) jumping in the race scares me. Let a few proven conservative candidates duke it out (i.e. Romney, Huck, Newt) and save the rising stars for an election further down the road (i.e. Palin, Jindal). Otherwise we could end up with another McCain as our nominee.
cschande on August 13, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Palin is right again……..the media will lap it up this afternoon and will draw attention to it hoping to use ridicule to demean her latest comments about healthcare.
READ THE BILL.
http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
Page 30, Page 42, Page 354, Page 379, Page 425, Page 427
etc. etc.
PappyD61 on August 13, 2009 at 1:27 PM
The fact is that as a retired governor – no longer a political figure – Palin can put an opinion on facebook and have the President dance to that tune. (And lose the argument, BTW)
LOL.
And there are some real numbnuts out there who say she doesn’t have a chance because ‘she’s a quitter’. LOL. Reality check on aisle nine Walmart shoppers….
Not since the NYT printed the headline “DEWEY WINS” have so many been so wrong about a political demise.
Carolina Kat on August 13, 2009 at 1:32 PM
THIRD LOOK AT SARAH PALIN.
Mcguyver on August 13, 2009 at 1:42 PM
We Are Middle America.com
( at least we have a voice)
I think we just might have this voice in Sarah Palin
What do you all think ????? Possible ????
carlr144 on August 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM
It’s not only possible … it’s probable.
darwin on August 13, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Voice? Yes. Definitely. Viable 2012 candidate? Not yet. 2016 or 2020. Probable, but only if she’s smart.
cschande on August 13, 2009 at 2:35 PM
2012 is a long way off. I’m not going to count her in or out until she tells us her intentions. For now she can poke and jab at everything they do and they feel compelled to respond to what she says. It might be the Dems in the long run that will provide the numbers she needs to make her decision. For now though, Go Sarah!!!!!
New Patriot on August 13, 2009 at 2:36 PM
QUESTION: How can Palin’s net favorable rating be at -9 when she just succeeded in getting health bill Finance Committee to drop the end-of-life provision; the so-called “death panel” language? That seems to be something no Republican in Senate or House could accomplish. So now citizen Sarah Palin is the most effective Republican in the nation. Who knew?
IntheNet on August 13, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Possible Answer: Effective partisans on high profile issues are not necessarily the best candidates for popular election.
clorensen on August 13, 2009 at 3:20 PM
To all of you who just can’t see Sarah Palin being viable in 2012, let me remind you of something.
I could not see a radical leftist one term Senator being able to take down the feared Clinton machine and move into the White House. Just. Couldn’t. See. It.
It’s not the ’90′s anymore. The news cycle and the digestion of information by the public is much faster now than it ever has been. On the information super-highway, the speed limit has been raised from 65 to 125. Sarah can accomplish what she needs to in a much shorter period of time than it took Reagan in his “wilderness years”.
2012 is an eternity away in political time. Remember the inevitability of Rudy vs. Hillary?
Sarah’s viability will be determined by how effective she can be from this point forward.
I’m looking forward to riding that trail with her, whether she actually runs or gets behind someone else.
I think she will run, when %75 of the Republican voters demand it.
Brian1972 on August 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Unfortunately, the MSM allows the Dems to play by different rules than Republicans. It’s certainly wrong, but it’s also a reality that we have to live with.
cschande on August 13, 2009 at 3:46 PM
She is in MSM stasis, yet her Death Panel insert had national impace
Proves she is not dead and extremely dangerous
In politics, a single statement can change history, yet it still depends upon the individual to be listened to
She launched a scud and the MSM carried it to target. Very good, Palin. Imagine if Palin was running ads?
entagor on August 13, 2009 at 5:20 PM
sorry, typos
She is in MSM stasis, yet her Death Panel insert had national
impaceimpactentagor on August 13, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Allah is quoting CNN to support his dislike for Palin? Why not just quote DKOS or DUNG while you’re at it?
Hard Right on August 13, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Yeah, allah, I’M BELIEVING a poll by the Clinton News Network about Sarah. Right.
“CNN RELEASES A POLL TAKEN OF LIKELY DEMOCRAT VOTERS” I’d believe the numbers then.
jcw46 on August 13, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Finally somebody on here with a plan.
Blacksmith8 on August 13, 2009 at 9:36 PM
FIFY
Blacksmith8 on August 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM
And speaking of limpwrists:
As we endure open registration I thought I’d take a moment to help all the newbies. Around here this a pattern example of a concern troll. aka I like her and all, she’s just not ready.
cschande,
Here’s a path for your enlightment:
1)leave your mom’s basement
2)go to work
3)meet someone who’s better than you, yet seems silly enough to stay around you.
4)and this is important Don’t run home to mommy
Stay the course and you might grow up to be part of the adult world.
Blacksmith8 on August 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM
No matter what anyone says, Ms Palin got it going on… She has the whole Dem party playing defense… She’s a rose thorn in their sides…
BLKandPRD on August 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM
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