Video: Speaking of mean signs …
posted at 6:52 pm on August 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Earlier today, Barack Obama made sure to call on a teenage girl who decried the use of “mean signs” at townhall forums, allowing Obama to amplify a fine whine coming from Democrats during the debate over ObamaCare. John Dingell compared his constituents to the KKK while Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer called opponents “un-American” for their vocal opposition to the health-care reform bill that creates a government takeover of the entire industry. Evan Coyne Maloney brings us this flashback to January 2005, a simpler, more gentle time in political protests … or maybe not:
A couple of points. First, it’s great to see people criticize Bush for spending $40 million on his second inauguration in the middle of a “recession” (actually, we had already recovered from a recession and had begun rapid economic growth more than a year earlier). Barack Obama spent $170 million during one of the worst economic periods since the Great Depression on his inauguration. The protesters in 2005 openly spouted conspiracy theories about Bush’s legitimacy. Some of them talked openly about revolution, which sounds a lot more un-American than people wanting government out of their health care.
And note those nice Nazi swastikas. They make several appearances in this seven-minute video, on more than one sign. Those were the days ….
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LIB’s….gotta love the double standard and required hypocrisy……and the Fuhur is the best at it!
SDarchitect on August 11, 2009 at 6:53 PM
The Democrat and far-left mantra has always been: for thee, not for me.
Richard Romano on August 11, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Funny how that Congressman from Georgia spun the Nazi Swastika deal to make it seem like it was Nazis who did it as a Racist act, rather than protesters calling him a Nazi.
Read the AP story. They spun it that way.
ericdondero on August 11, 2009 at 6:55 PM
bushildetkngj!!!
911/ insidd ejob !
steel!
fed!
blatantblue on August 11, 2009 at 6:57 PM
We need something stronger than “double standard.” Libs are pathetic.
Mojave Mark on August 11, 2009 at 6:57 PM
I’m so proud of our Liberal Education system, the Media, and the Left in general………….
Seven Percent Solution on August 11, 2009 at 7:00 PM
At least they’re not well-dressed.
Colin Harris on August 11, 2009 at 7:00 PM
RNC should run a series of videos “remember” and compare..
the_nile on August 11, 2009 at 7:00 PM
How about: juvenile hypocrites?
John the Libertarian on August 11, 2009 at 7:01 PM
First, there were none of these signs today in NH, NONE. The 13 y/o was a setup. I have teenagers and no matter how conservative they are, they would NEVER get up and ask a stupid question like that unless I made them and probably paid them. Her parents are frauds and should be embarrassed. There were NO MEAN SIGNS! As for the right having mean signs, few and far between, but the lefties had contests on who can make the most disgusting, disrespectful signs about Bush, Cheney and the troops.
There is no comparison.
Frances on August 11, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Oh the hypocrisy of the left. Nothing new here.
stackedeck on August 11, 2009 at 7:02 PM
Those were better times. Unfortunately the war was rough during those years, and these poor, sensitive souls didn’t have the fortitude to stand firmly.
Dr. Manhattan on August 11, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Leftards and swastikas – they just go together!
Cicero43 on August 11, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Democrats have the memory of a goldfish.
Scrappy on August 11, 2009 at 7:05 PM
These protestors will soon have good Obamawork jobs processing poop to fertilize Michelle’s organic White House garden.
whitetop on August 11, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Such nice freedom fighters.
FontanaConservative on August 11, 2009 at 7:06 PM
The International Socialist Association chick: I’m from NY and I’m a teacher up there.
Explains volumes.
tru2tx on August 11, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Hilary dolls????
ladyingray on August 11, 2009 at 7:07 PM
That video RAWKS.
rising21 on August 11, 2009 at 7:08 PM
I read about this in the history books! This was way back when dissent was the highest form of patriotism! What an unbelievable concept!
Speedwagon82 on August 11, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Today’s town hall was just another notch in the obama smoke and mirror campaign!
…listen and believe, listen and believe,..
christene on August 11, 2009 at 7:11 PM
..anyone got the link for that Town Hall? I’d love to see the Boy King whimper about signs and stuff. I hope he flaps his lips real good, because every time he does, he takes a huge hit in the polls. In three years, people will be so-o-o-o-o-o over him.
He truly is King of the Turds!
VoyskaPVO on August 11, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Where’s liberal343?
darwin on August 11, 2009 at 7:13 PM
I’d like to nominate William Kostric as the GOP nominee to run in NH for Senate.
JohnGalt23 on August 11, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Double Plus Standard
That’s as double standardy as you can get in Newspeak.
ROCnPhilly on August 11, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Mean Signs new code word for racist
/s
CWforFreedom on August 11, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Playing with her Osama doll, of course.
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Oh it is around
CWforFreedom on August 11, 2009 at 7:14 PM
hypocrites and cry babies.
Terrye on August 11, 2009 at 7:14 PM
What’s good for the goose is good for… well the goose.
HoustonRight on August 11, 2009 at 7:14 PM
I’m thinking none of those people recognize that fascism is a form of socialism.
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:16 PM
couldn’t watch it after a few minutes….the absolute hypocrisy just boils my blood and they never get called on it…i just want to arrrrrgggggghhhhhh…
cmsinaz on August 11, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Please, for the love of GI Joe, please stop being worried about what the Left thinks about us.
faraway on August 11, 2009 at 7:19 PM
With gov regulation, collusion and coercion making gov ownership unnecessary?
ROCnPhilly on August 11, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Poor Karl Rove, he and Cheney are the bete noire of the left,
dmnari on August 11, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Here’s your chance. Call them on it now.
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:20 PM
I hated those Bush signs, they were extremely offensive. I have been very nasty about Obama on blogs but would find it hard to stand in public with a vile image of him on cardboard. The left experiences selective dementia when they ridicule those that choose to make their anti-Obama voices heard.
sherry on August 11, 2009 at 7:20 PM
The RNC, or some other interested group, should start pumping out vids, especially in light of the fact that apparently many congresscritters on the D side are running against President Bush (yeah, I know, but…) with a montage of the many protests by lefty groups of President Bush, turning their scapegoating of President Bush around on ‘em.
TeeDee on August 11, 2009 at 7:21 PM
will try my darndest….i try talking to my lib friends about this crap and they think it is just fine and dandy and see nothing wrong with it, it’s like banging your head against a wall
cmsinaz on August 11, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Look, just because Mussolini was a Marxist who realized that Marxism couldn’t be applied in a country like Italy and the Nazi Party’s official name contained the word “socialism” and the Nazis made a non-aggression pact with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics DOES NOT mean that fascism and socialism are in any way, shape for form connected by a common view of the relationship between the individual and the state.
/pseudo-intellectual moonbat mode off
venividivici on August 11, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Rumor has it that he is out in his back yard burning all his Bush as a sub human chimpanzee with a swastika signs.
Luka on August 11, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Noooo. With government control of the means of production, state sponsored retirement programs, forced profit sharing, upper limits on wages, a ban on money made from investment…
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:24 PM
excuse me while I laugh. Those people wouldn’t know what to do with a gun, if they even had one. They think war is like a movie or video game. I say be careful what you wish for. For every 1 of you… there are 30 of us “Right-Wing Extremists”(and we have way more guns and know how to use them)… many of whom are Scary “Veterans” (a codeword for “right wing extremist”) who would be more than happy to defend this country.
At least then, their leftist agenda would be out in the open… instead of the stealth tactics (“LOOK OVER HERE!” “What was that?” “Nothing, forget about it”) they have been using the last few years.
BadBrad on August 11, 2009 at 7:24 PM
On ABC radio news, which is like listening to a Pravda review of a Reagan speech, they talked about disruptions and arrests,making it sound like those opposed to obammycare were the ones arrested. They were not. Two obammysts were the ones nabbed and sent to the hoosegaw.
Blake on August 11, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Now that we actual have a “real” Fascist-Socialist-Dictatorship!!!
I wonder what these passionate anarchists are up to these days?
Teebone3 on August 11, 2009 at 7:28 PM
McHitler W. BushChimpyHaliburton!
Akzed on August 11, 2009 at 7:30 PM
The Left would paint the people in those old videos as Republicans opposed to Bush. Average citizens have short memories but CNN, MSNBC, etc. have huge archives–fat to draw on, so to speak. And the MSM knows this.
Liam on August 11, 2009 at 7:30 PM
Those were the days. Goverment memos were written with typewriters from the future. I still say that Kerry was drunk the night he gave that midnight speech after the GOP convention ended.
rw on August 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM
From Wiki: “Hitler said in 1927, “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance.”"
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:32 PM
On Fascism/Socialism: I was listing the means by which the fed gov implemented your list. The gov need not own the means of production to control it. That’s my point. I agree with you.
ROCnPhilly on August 11, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Liberals try using the nazi crap, to hide what they truly are. Only in nazi land would they not cover persons, who aren’t up to snuff in their opinions, as productive, and valid human beings.
Only in liberal land, would someone say, it’s ok to abort a child up to the age of 2, because they aren’t socialized yet. Or to put sterilization agents in our water.
capejasmine on August 11, 2009 at 7:34 PM
In case Wiki’s not good enough, here’s their reference;
^ Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927. Cited in: Toland, John (1976). Adolf Hitler. Doubleday. pp. p.306.
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:35 PM
What a bunch of d%cks!
And I’m not limiting that comment to the tools in the vid; it includes the lefties in office.
madmonkphotog on August 11, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Thanks, I misunderstood.
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Answering emails at flag@whitehouse.gov.
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:37 PM
I do find those signs offensive, but I think I could carry a really vile sign with a picutre of Pelosi on it. Maybe with a Hitler moustache and some swastikas. Somehow, that just seems fitting, rather than offensive.
mbs on August 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Iliked the kill/blood in the streets. LOL..that’s right, start a shooting war with the NRA. Did you notice how he backed off after he thought about it.
Jeff from WI on August 11, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Democrats: the “Do as I say, not as I do” political party of record… MOve along… Nothing to see here…
Khun Joe on August 11, 2009 at 7:46 PM
If you read Mein Kampf, there is a section where Hitler describes seeing the Marxists parade in Vienna and how their organization and discipline impressed him. He just shifted the locus of socialism from “class” to “race”. Anyone who argues that he wasn’t a socialist is misinformed.
venividivici on August 11, 2009 at 7:47 PM
The mean sign kid was a plant.
quax1 on August 11, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Obama’s ploy with the 13-year-old today reminds me of Jimmy Carter’s attempt during the 1980 debate to craftily bring his 13-year-old daughter Amy into the debate by saying that just the other day she was telling him the most important issue to her was the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
Which was appropriate, because as an attempt to gain sympathy, it was a 10 megaton bomb. This attempt would, too, except it’s competing with too many other goofy health care actions by the Democrats to have the limelight all to itself.
jon1979 on August 11, 2009 at 7:49 PM
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=911911
quax1 on August 11, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Interesting post from another board about the little girl being an Obama plant (proof and pics provided).
Link
dugan on August 11, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Or maybe this little gem by Joseph Goebbels:
“We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.
Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and the regaining of German freedom. Socialism therefore is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total combat brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the Fatherland!”
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/haken32.htm
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:50 PM
If Fox were actually a decently “right wing” news source, they’d be playing the heck out of this video.
(But then, I don’t have a T.V., so maybe they are. I’m just guessing.)
notropis on August 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM
What I think is missing here is what might better be the real object of our wrath: the Mainstream Press. I studied journalism, and the idea of the profession used to be what is called FACT: Fast, Accurate, Concise, True. Personal opinions stay out; all facts are to be organized well and presented in an interesting way with as few words as possible. The present ‘free press’ has failed on all counts to the point of sitting on stories for days or just quashing them outright. We all also know media spin so I need not go beyond mention of it (to remain concise and interesting, mind you).
Thanks be to God an alternate press has arisen to keep the people informed, which is fast becoming the prime news source worldwide. News is a business and falling revenues for traditional venues show where today’s trend lies. If media execs are savvy enough, the free market will force a change if the people revolt in that arena, sans violence, of course.
The next level to have its back broken is the entrenched bureaucracy in Washington. Since our members of Congress have no idea what is in HR3200, it’s obvious someone other than Members wrote the thing in a collusion among staffers. No paranoia here, just the case I submit for your consideration.
Of course, at the same time, we need to try voting out our alleged Representatives in Washington. But, realistically, they’re chump change with heavy emphasis on on the term ‘chump’.
I see a multi-front war here, with Congress at the bottom of the food chain we need to consume with all tenacity. The media and bureaucrats are insulated and camouflaged by those we elect to the Capitol. Time, I think, to bring the battle to our real enemies’ front door.
Liam on August 11, 2009 at 7:52 PM
They don’t know the definition of fascism.
Otherwise, they’d be having aneurysms right now.
Mommypundit on August 11, 2009 at 7:55 PM
So we agree?
My argument with what you initially wrote in pseudo-intellectual moonbat mode was your implication that the worker’s relationship with the state was different in fascism, Nazi-ism and Soviet socialism. It’s identical in any practical comparison.
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Using the swastika toward Obama is stupid now just as it was stupid when people used it toward Bush. It shows amazing ignorance.
Dave Rywall on August 11, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Party like it’s $19.99.™
Terrie on August 11, 2009 at 8:01 PM
But they sure do know the definition of Socialist. Infact they were all talking about how proud and intrigued they were of and by the concept…some even were outright claiming to be socialist…surprised Barry wasn’t on the video.
BillaryMcBush on August 11, 2009 at 8:03 PM
Got a few more for you.
DerKrieger on August 11, 2009 at 8:06 PM
The diff is that Bush was not once, ever, trying to turn America into a nation where the State is supreme over the people.
Obama is. So, yes, it’s safe and fair to compare Obama to a Nazi. What is that tip-line about? What about the devaluation of citizens opposed to Obama’s ideas by Pelosi, et. al.?
Bush never did that, Cheney never tried that, and no one else in the previous Administration went so far as to suggest it.
I won’t dare you to present evidence because you know what I’m saying is true. You won’t admit that, of course, because your last argument will fall over and sink into mud if you thought past talking points.
Maybe if you read more Dem talking points and other ideas, you might be able to claim having ideas.
Liam on August 11, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Ahh. Moral equivalence, thy name is Dave.
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Was there ever any doubt?
mbs on August 11, 2009 at 8:10 PM
See my previous post for just a small sampling of Bush as Hitler nonsense from the Left.
DerKrieger on August 11, 2009 at 8:11 PM
I swear you conservatives are %100 percent like Liberals. You conveniently ignore the fact you guys do EXACTLY the same things as the left. Both sides fall lock step into their roles depending on which side is in charge. When the Left protested Bush domestic AND international policies and did the exact same thing the protesters are doing now you called the Un-American, Un-patriotic, crazy, angry, hateful, you were absolutely flabbergasted that people could spew such vitriol. You cried an whined about the Nazi references regarding Bush and the “Crazy” left that thought everyone that agreed with Bush in a meeting was a plant and Bush thugs were beating up people, spying on people and whisking away people in the middle of the night to never be seen again. He was trying to dismantle the constitution and turn American into a dictatorship.
Insane huh?
But YET you then do the same thing. You hang effigies, cry that you got beat up but hired thugs, claim people “hired” by the government drove by your houses to threaten you in the middle of the night, march around posters with swastikas and talk of fascism and Obama with a Hitler mustache waving around your gun rights and calling for bloodshed and civil war. And of course the Left falls into their role, now calling you un-American and un-patriotic and are just as baffled by the anger.
I’m convinced both sides just get selective amnesia about they’re behaviors and reactions or delude themselves that they aren’t two sides of the same damn coin. It is extremely frustrating and dishonest.
And you can’t fathom why someone might want to be an independent or moderate can you?
Your all the same.
Magnus on August 11, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Clearly, there are nutjobs on both sides of the fence.
But the difference is that while the media legitimizes the left-wing crackpots, everyone on the right is demonized, crackpot or not. Merely being angry about the administration’s policies will get you lumped in with terrorists and assasins.
If we actually had a fair media, things would be so much easier.
Thank goodness for Hot Air, and blogs like them. This is an awesome post, and demonstrates why we need to support sites like this with all of our strength.
This is NOT something you’ll be able to read outside of blogs.
12thMonkey on August 11, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Hitler rode in on the same socialist pony that Ochimpy is on. He was the self proclaimed Messiah of his day, just as Ochimpy is the self proclaimed Messiah of our day.
Using them for Ochimopy would be in perfect context.
csdeven on August 11, 2009 at 8:31 PM
I hope you’re sitting down for this…
First off, you group ME among Republicans like the Left does because I’m a Constructionist. In fact, I’m an Independent who holds Conservative views. The GOP bailed on me years ago. I have crossed Party lines and been shot in the back by both Dems and Republicrats. I voted for Clinton first time around b/c Bush Sr. jacked OUR taxes in the largest Federal money-grab before Clinton topped him. And, yes, I said “OUR”, because we’re both Americans.
The Left opposes everything and anything done by a Republican president. Get a clue. In the 60s, burning down college buildings became a form of ‘peaceful’ protest. Name ONE instance where right-wingers burned something down. And, more, name ONE instance where right-wingers beat people up.
And save the KKK references. The KKK is not considered part of the Republican Party or any genuine Conservative movement. You see, we Constructionists, of which I remind I am one, believe the Constitution is meant for EVERY citizen. Add in, too, that former slaves were made citizens at the end of the Civil War as Mr. Lincoln wanted. Remember, yet again, Lincoln was a Republican. At the time, that Party meant something.
WE do not advocate civil war or revolution, as a group. Some do, like those on the Left bomb public toilets, a la the SLA and Patty Hearst. But those vermin aren’t part of us who post here and surely not conservative America in general. Name me ONE group the Republican Party, and genuine conservative citizens, support to blow up people taking a leak. History shows that stuff has happened because LEFTISTS planted the bombs.
There are differing coinages here. The 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed because Johnson didn’t have enough Dem votes and reached across the aisle to get it done. If there’s a sharper coin to pay, it comes from the Dem side.
That’s all a teaser, hoping you might look deeper than waht you presently seem to believe.
Right know, you show an amazing grasp of history. /total sarc on this last line
Liam on August 11, 2009 at 8:33 PM
And these mullets that the footage showed would gladly do it all over again. They’ll continue to decry any ‘harsh’ criticism of Obama, while at the same time, justify every disgusting, childish, loathesome thing they’d ever done against President Bush and Vice President Cheney with such justifications as ‘killing people in Iraq’, ‘killing people at the World Trade Center’, etc. Obama’s done no wrong, so any criticism of him is inherently unjust. It’s only wrong when Republicans/Right Wingers do it. When lefties do it, it’s patriotism. It’s expressing the civil right to free speech. It’s American. I’m sure we all know these types.
Virus-X on August 11, 2009 at 8:43 PM
In the words of Rahm Emanuel, never let a crisis go to waste.
This is a perfect opportunity for the GOP. Every candidate and incumbent should be given a 5 point “Real Health care Reform Plan” consisting of tort reform, increase use of MSAs, allow greater access to catastrophic insurance, allow shopping interstate for insurance and the lifting of stupid mandates. five simple points that they can use over and over again.
Have town hall meetings and push this plan. say something like “Our legislation can be read by anyone in about 5 minutes, no lawyer needed, and unlike obama’s, it won’t cost a dime in taxes or in deficit spending.”
We’d have videos of people cheering for them on you tube next to the ones of people booing dems. It needs to be done now while the public is paying attention. It gives them a positive message, it puts real reforms we actually need to a public receptive to them out there.
It seems simple to me.
coondawg on August 11, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Yes, we are in agreement.
“pseudo-intellectual moonbat mode” is me saying that’s what moonbats with crappy professors (likely apologists for Communism) and an inability to read primary sources would argue about the relationship of fascism and socialism.
venividivici on August 11, 2009 at 8:43 PM
The big difference is most “conservatives” are upset with both parties. The republican politicians are just as bad. for all of them this is more about POWER than ideology. I’m all for voting every last elected official out of office.
Overall…The conservatives have been much more civil than the democrats/liberals ever were.
When was the last time you saw the YAF or College Republicans throwing bricks through windows at a democratic political event? I remember conservative speakers being mobbed and chased from the stages by leftist “mobs” at more than one college (one got the podium thrown at him)… how does that compare to DEMANDING that our elected officials hear our concerns? Conservatives are fighting to be heard (from ALL politicians of BOTH parties) while the democrats were/are fighting to be the only ones heard.
small difference to ponder with your small brain.
BadBrad on August 11, 2009 at 8:45 PM
HotAir strategy: don’t mention the crazies on the right until you can talk about them in the context of the crazies on the left.
If you’re not excusing this behavior I don’t know what you’re doing.
Nonfactor on August 11, 2009 at 8:48 PM
I believe its all a matter of time before someone throws a brick through a window.
And of course there is the attack against my intelligence…
Magnus on August 11, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Mojave Mark on August 11, 2009 at 6:57 PM
I always kinda liked Dean Wormer’s:
Double Secret Standard.
Uncle Pinky on August 11, 2009 at 8:49 PM
The diff is that Bush was not once, ever, trying to turn America into a nation where the State is supreme over the people.
Obama is. So, yes, it’s safe and fair to compare Obama to a Nazi. What is that tip-line about? What about the devaluation of citizens opposed to Obama’s ideas by Pelosi, et. al.?
Bush never did that, Cheney never tried that, and no one else in the previous Administration went so far as to suggest it.
I won’t dare you to present evidence because you know what I’m saying is true. You won’t admit that, of course, because your last argument will fall over and sink into mud if you thought past talking points.
Maybe if you read more Dem talking points and other ideas, you might be able to claim having ideas.
Liam on August 11, 2009 at 8:07 PM
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Pfft. Nice try.
Dave Rywall on August 11, 2009 at 8:54 PM
OMG!!!!1! Mean signs!!!
Bruce in NH on August 11, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Using the swastika toward Obama is stupid now just as it was stupid when people used it toward Bush. It shows amazing ignorance.
Dave Rywall on August 11, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Ahh. Moral equivalence, thy name is Dave.
applebutter on August 11, 2009 at 8:07 PM
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I said both uses were wrong, dumba$$.
Dave Rywall on August 11, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Hitler rode in on the same socialist pony that Ochimpy is on. He was the self proclaimed Messiah of his day, just as Ochimpy is the self proclaimed Messiah of our day.
Using them for Ochimopy would be in perfect context.
csdeven on August 11, 2009 at 8:31 PM
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Amazing glue you’re sniffing there.
Dave Rywall on August 11, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Debate me on the details. “Nice try” was your attempt to escape. Refute me, discuss with me. Let’s have a dialogue.
Fair between us?
Liam on August 11, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Actually it was the Right that gave him the Messiah title and claimed him the Messiah and seem to mention it more than anyone else. I’ve never seen Obama claim to be anything different than any other politician, better than the other guy and a fixer of the problems the guy before him/her made.
If anything Sarah Palin has been elevated to the Messiah to the oppressed masses and Savior of all things conservative.
Magnus on August 11, 2009 at 9:00 PM
At this point, I don’t believe we know who painted the swastika on the Congressman’s sign. I think it could be a neo-Nazi, or it could be a Left leaning supporter trying to generate outrage; remember the McCain supported who claimed that Obama supporters held her down and ‘carved’ an O on her face? She lied to try to help her candidate. At this point, I feel it’s just as likely the swastika sign defacer is a Leftie as a Nazi or skinhead type.
Red State State of Mind on August 11, 2009 at 9:01 PM
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