Rasmussen: ObamaCare support hits new lows
posted at 12:55 pm on August 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The public campaign for ObamaCare has slipped to a new low, with a greater majority now opposing it, according to the latest polling from Rasmussen. Likely voters now oppose it 53%-42%, when six weeks ago a slim majority favored the plan. The intensity of opposition has increased greatly, while the intensity of support has diminished:
Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That’s down five points from two weeks ago and down eight points from six weeks ago.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that opposition to the plan has increased to 53%, up nine points since late June.
More significantly, 44% of voters strongly oppose the health care reform effort versus 26% who strongly favor it. Intensity has been stronger among opponents of the plan since the debate began.
The big problem for Democrats remains the independent voters. They lost that bloc at about the time that the CBO began issuing its analyses of the various versions of ObamaCare, and that trend has only gotten worse for Obama and Pelosi. Sixty-two percent of unaffiliated likely voters oppose the bill, and now a majority (51%) strongly oppose it. The intensity of opposition among unaffiliated voters holds a great danger for Democrats looking to get re-elected in 2010 to their House and Senate seats.
The intensity of opposition has increased among practically all demographics. Forty-four percent of all likely voters now strongly oppose ObamaCare, which goes to 49% of men and 39% of women — who oppose it overall by 50%-43%, losing a key demographic. While the youngest voters strongly favor ObamaCare by 57%, the numbers flip for all other age demos: 51% strongly oppose in 30-39, 58% in 40-49, 43% in 50-64, and 46% among seniors. The same holds true for income demos. Among the lowest-income earners, 51% strongly support, but then strongly oppose gets majorities or strong pluralities for the other brackets: 38% for $20-40K, 56% for $40-60K and $60-75K, 40% for $75-100K, and 55% for $100K+, a surprising result as this has been swinging for Obama until now.
Majorities also now say that passing the bill will make health-care more expensive (51%) and lower quality (51%). Among independents, those numbers are 49% and 59%, respectively, which underscores the problems Obama has in convincing America to support this bill. If most people believe it will make medical care cost more and patients to get lower-quality care, why would they support it?
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If I’d insulted the founders of, say, IBM as nastily as you did the Founding Fathers, it would be a reasonably logical conclusion for anyone that I didn’t like IBM in general. Same difference with you and the USA at large.
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Oh, I guess I missed that part where I wrote you should go to Zimbabwe to gain some perspective because you aren’t part of the James Madison fan club…
…I’ll look for that. Maybe I typed it with invisible tex.
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Really?
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM
I’m sorry that I don’t like slaveholders. That’s just me I guess. Hate is such a strong word. I hate you though.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Fixed. \;-}
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Hate to tell you but Stephen Hopkins (my great X 6 or so grandpa) didn’t own any slaves. Terry, go get a degree in history before you post in a public place. It causes you so much less embarrassment, and saves the rest of us the time it takes to read your bilge…
Jonas Parker on August 11, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Get off it. You don’t love this country. You despise it and everything it stands for. Nobody could defend the totalitarian takeover exhibited by Obama/Reid/Pelosi and love this country. You are a fraud pure and simple.
I’d have a shred of respect for you if you at least were honest with everyone. You hate America and you want to destroy it.
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 4:04 PM
I just don’t revere slaveholders. If you listen to some people, they talk about Madison and others like they are God’s gift to man.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:04 PM
At the time, slavery made good economic sense. Why pay caucasians to work your fields when you can buy some negroes to work them for free?
Then one day, along comes some machinery that doesn’t tire, complain, rebel…..and slavery becomes economically obsolete.
Yet we still have slavery in the world….guess where?
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Speaking of failures, I know you loved Barry’s campaign rally today. It was an epikc failure.
kingsjester on August 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Yet others liked Jackson so much, they became Jacksonian Democrats…
I guess I just don’t see how the Democrat party was G-d’s gift to man…
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Where the hell did you come from? I’m talking about James Madison. I don’t have any beef with your ancestors, ok?
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Yes. Terry is no American. He is a parasite.
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM
What do you love about it, nancy? The freedoms or the freebies?
If you love the freedom, you better get off your knees and stop drinking the koolaid.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Will you quit your loser whining if I write you a reparation check?
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Sounds like the situation with coolie labor on the Transcontinental railroad in modern-day meatpacking plants, except they at least get paid something.
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 4:07 PM
I understand. The food stamps in Zimbabwe are worthless.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:07 PM
You have the power to ignore it MoveOn.
Loxodonta on August 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM
I just don’t understand where your going with this. I dislike all slaveholders regardless of race. I don’t revere slaveholders regardless of where they are from or who they are enslaving. What is so hard to understand about this?
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Probably not. You could hand him a $10M check and he’d complain that it’s not $11M. That is how people like Terry work. Always complain, never satisfied, always someone to blame.
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM
F you. And FYI my parents are straight out of Africa, hence are undeserving of your reparations check. (Like you could afford it anyway. Can you say boing boing boiinnng?)
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:10 PM
I just don’t understand where your going with this.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Did you learn much grammar at that fine non-inner city school you claim to have attended?
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM
That’s just toooo hilarious. We let this loser’s parents into our country and all he can do is complain about slavery?
Too freaking rich.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:12 PM
You must have flunked reading comprehension…
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Again I don’t get this sentiment. I am very happy. I don’t need your money. I was talking about James Madison, lol!
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:12 PM
The Founders were certainly G-d’s gift to Man. No doubt about it. You need to go to a country that was built by better people, by your estimation. If you stay here, you only feed the lie that the Founders were great men, and you wouldn’t want to do that.
Maybe The Precedent will take you back to Indonesia with him, when he finally gets tossed out. You’ll love it there.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 4:12 PM
LOL! Your parents are African and you’re complaining about slavery in America that ended 145 years ago!
Dude you are fuc**ng nutjob.
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 4:12 PM
I get it now! Slavery is totally cool if your ancestors weren’t slaves! Did you see me complain about slavery in general, awful as it was? I responded to somebody sucking Madison’s d*ck. That’s all.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:14 PM
This only highlights your lack of intellectual horsepower.
Why are you so incapable of contextualizing the lives of the Founders? I abhor modern-day slaveowners around the globe, as they are an abhorrence to modern civilizational standards. I do not abhor the slaveowners of yesteryear because, in the context of their day, what they were doing was largely considered acceptable. To apply the standards of our time to theirs is nonsensical.
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Hey, guys… just don’t get Terry talking about Polygamy… Touchy subject…
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:14 PM
I’m only complaining about the hero worship of the slaveholder James Madison, not slavery in general. GOD!!!!!
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:15 PM
And you know all about that, nancy.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Unreal. Terry needs to be shipped back, post-haste.
Westerners never learn that people don’t appreciate anything that is given to them or done for them.
Terry’s ancestors probably caught the slaves and sold them.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Is that all you do, nancy. Complain?
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Hey, welcome to our country, loser.
A country so racist we allowed your economically-worthless parents to have the most prized citizenship in the world.
So you could grow up in freedom and prosperity, take food stamps and bitch about slavery.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM
I find it interesting that of all the ethnic groups that have been mistreated in America – AmerIndians, Irish, Chinese, etc…none of them has been nearly as god**** freaking WHINY as “African-Americans”! Not even the rabid clan-breeding “you learn my Spanish, Yankees” brand of Hispanics is as persistently shrill and pushy!
Maybe there’s just something ‘special’ about them…naw, can’t be. Can it?
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I guess Terry owes some hefty reparations then.
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:17 PM
So does that mean that you completely overlook it and put them beyond reproach? Even when a guy like James Madison has quotes like the following, yet goes to his grave without releasing his 100+ slaves:
“We have seen the mere distinction of colour made in the most enlightened period of time, a ground of the most oppressive dominion ever exercised by man over man.”
— Speech by Madison at the Constitutional Convention, June 1787
“The magnitude of this evil among us is so deeply felt, and so universally acknowledged; that no merit could be greater than that of devising a satisfactory remedy for it.”
— Madison to Frances Wright, September 1825
That is from the Montpelier website by the way.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:18 PM
They’ve just let themselves be manipulated over and over… They’ve become so ghetto-ized that they fail to know what reason is.
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Go home, Terry.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 4:20 PM
The thing is Terry, even so he did own slaves, he was never cruel to them.
FontanaConservative on August 11, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Just like your fake messiah, pure implosion. Epic failure.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Whaaaahhhh! I can’t afford a Cadillac Escalade because of slavery!
Whaaaaahhh! My African-born parents can’t get the same Social Security and Medicare benefits they would have in Zimbabwe because of slavery!
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Keep it up buddy. I hope that for your sake that is a public computer because I will find you.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Why are you obsessing over James Madison, who died a long time ago? Can’t defend the epic failure of Barack Obama’s
campaign rally today, huh?
kingsjester on August 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
OMG! That makes it all better. God you are retarded.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
I wish people like Terry could just finally get over race…
…I’m sick of the victimistas.
Here’s what they should do… go find someone from some skin-tone group that they feel threatened by, and make a baby.
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
You couldn’t find your arse with two hands and a flashlight. Settle down, nancy.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Lol.. I love it. Come find me, whiner.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Much as it hurts you, I can.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
It’s Rokemronnie!!!
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Where, exactly, are they from? I’d like to know which nation was so bad that your parents had to flee to the US, a country whose Founders you consider to be slime.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Victimistas…..plus 100. You’ve outdone yourself, 85. Go to the head of the class!
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
You just answered your own question.
LibTired on August 11, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Awesome. Does it have 22 inch spinners?
Pimp that ride, loser.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Buh bye guys, have a good night. Hope your packing.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Oooooh.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Ya got 22′s on that ride, nancy?
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:24 PM
The fact that some Founders owned slaves is of very little interest to me. It was the way of things. My ‘reverence’ of them is earned by virtue of their visionary intellectual prowess.
What you are ignorant of, is that not all slaveowners were alike. Madison & Jefferson actually treated their slaves very well. Jefferson even had them immunized. Healthcare for slaves! Fancy that!
Considering the fact that these slaves were destined for some form of servitude, they had it pretty darned good.
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM
I’m putting $50 on progressoverpeace. Anyone care to match my bet?
Of course, that assumes your l33t $ki11$ really do extend beyond typing poorly-spelt rants, Terry.
BTW, are you doing a 1-on-1 fight or do you plan to bring some of your ho-meez?
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Hmmm
What does that mean?
Physical threats?
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Last question. Ethiopia. They didn’t flee, they both came on scholarships. See ya soon, because your first.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:26 PM
He’s gone postal!
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Ethiopia. Cultural capitol of the planet.
But at least they don’t have slaves there.
Oh, wait…they do.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Dunce.
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Ed, AP – Terry Silver has been threatening people all day. Could we see the Ban Hammer, please?
kingsjester on August 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I started the Madison thing.
By all rights, I get to go first.
Me and my leedle frien’.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Being that you are a slavish devotee to what passes for conventional wisdom these days, what makes you think you would have not held slaves yourself back in the day?
NoDonkey on August 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Agreed…
Wouldn’t Pelosi say it’s un-American to threaten people?
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM
I got ‘fitty on that action, Dark.
Now, nancy:
Ethiopia….you should get on your knees, every day and thank God that your parents had the opportunity to come to the U.S., made great by its creators, instead of getting down on your knees for obama, nancy.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Ideally, it would mean that his threat was taken up on, and someone experimented on Terry’s hide to find out if you really can give a black man fat lips and black eyes.
Unfortunately, with the current crop of bleeding-heart idiots in judge’s robes and in jury boxes, that might bring repercussions. And never mind the white-guilt organizations like the NAACP…one word to the ‘news’ media and they could generate a firestorm on the order of Rodney King.
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Aw, leave it be. He’s comic relief.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM
No no no, king, this is too much. pass the salt.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Agree, most trolls have just given up defending this complete fiasco of an “administration”, Obama’s demoralized even them.
NoDonkey on August 11, 2009 at 4:31 PM
His first what?
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM
They’ve given up even trying to rationalize behavior.
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Let silverfish stay – I love reading his posts and his unbridled passion that somehow speaks for the entire collective hive known as “AFRICAN AMERICANS”. Sigh, if only that same passion had been applied during his school years (English, spelling, all that cool American, non-slave owning stuff).
Ris4victory on August 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Listen Terry, We could go back and forth on this topic of our Founders participating in slavery. But slavery is gone now. And the only instance of slavery that exists is in your mind. Look, they owned slaves. Big deal. Lot’s of people owned slaves back in that time period. The fact that they owned slaves should not diminish what they fought for. Freedom for all.
FontanaConservative on August 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Let me see if I learned the lesson of theday:
Slaveholding 200 years ago – awful, worst thing in the world
Threatening murder because you can’t argue your way out of a paper bag, today – decency and civilized behavior
Did I learn the lesson?
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM
You guys are too kind to him…
Silverfish?
I prefer Silverback…
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM
What a wonderful country.
Liberals open the door for utterly-useless immigrants from places like freaking Ethiopia.
And one generation later, our “education” system has taught their kids to whine about slavery while they enjoy every benefit of citizenship.
Russell Kirk called it the “suicide of the west”.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM
hypocrites and liars. Thank God these fools overreached to such a staggering degree. It stirred the sleeping giant.
marklmail on August 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM
well, silverfish are annoying and scary looking, but overall they are harmless – they usually run and hide if you shine a light on them
Ris4victory on August 11, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Our illegal gubmint ‘education’ system actually teaches kids that the ‘Civil War’ was about slavery….and that 600,000 white boys went off to die for da brutha.
It wasn’t about consolidation of political and economic power at all, oh no…
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Yep.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
heh.
You know, I think that the REAL racists are the ones that still care about race.
FontanaConservative on August 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Like roaches?
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Seems like the union guy is here. Just following orders.
bloggless on August 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
I miss Terry already.
But i guess he had to go see his welfare caseworker.
I hope he isn’t upset by all the white folks who cross the street when he comes ambling down the sidewalk with that big chip on his shoulder.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
It would also tell us that the only reason we fought in WWII was because the Nazi’s were Racists or something like that…
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Terry,
My grandparents were immigrants too. Came here without the proverbial pot to piss in. A generation later both my parents, my brother’s sister and my mother’s brothers all went to college and entered a nice comfortable middle to upper middle class lifestyle. Nobody, especially not the government gave my grandparents a dime. They worked their ass off, 12, 14 hours a day doing menial work in crappy conditions. They didn’t complain. They didn’t go running to the government with their hand out looking for free this and free that.
So get off your god damned high horse and STFU. You say you love this country? Then stop trying to turn it into a 3rd World backwater with your embrace of communist policies.
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Yeah…
The one’s that still care about race are the ones that tend to still marginalize the minority skin-tones…
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:40 PM
*Flicks bic for Silverfish*
That chip’s gotta hurt…
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Don’t get me started.
Next to the founding fathers, Ronald Reagan, Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul I, my personal hero is John Wilkes Booth.
And I’m not even a southerner.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Sorry, Gang –
But this morning that idiot threatened TXmomof3 and has been threatening physicality all day. He is stupid on a stick. Just like nice343/money2/liberal343.
kingsjester on August 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM
You think Lincoln was that bad?
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I blame Bush.
venividivici on August 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM
In the same way that white racists thought blacks were incapable of attaining certain intellectual levels, so too are black racists that think whites are incapable of shedding the remnants of others’ racism from their minds.
LimeyGeek on August 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM
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